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post Jul 20 2023, 08:49 AM, updated 3y ago

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How to choose materials for kitchen cabinet?

Noob here.

Table Top - Quatz?

How about cabinets? What materials that can last longer and good looking?

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Quartz stone top with melamine cabinet. Is that good?
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Plywood and only plywood for the interior and doors

Marble/Granite for the top
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QUOTE(GoodMorningMY @ Jul 20 2023, 08:49 AM)
How to choose materials for kitchen cabinet?

Noob here.

Table Top - Quatz?

How about cabinets? What materials that can last longer and good looking?

I got quote said

Quartz stone top with melamine cabinet. Is that good?
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Quartz is a reasonable choice. I don't like SS due to its tendency to scratch and discolor.
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:05 AM

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go full aluminium kitchen cabinet, longer durability
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:10 AM

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For built in and if you have the budget, want to try something different and don't mind how cold it can get, take a look at aluminum. Check out alustil. I went to my friends place and it does look good. Pricy though

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QUOTE(God Grid @ Jul 20 2023, 09:00 AM)
Plywood and only plywood for the interior and doors

Marble/Granite for the top
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No please don't use this. Can easily stain. Quartz is better
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:12 AM

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if u plan to use for long term

table top - quartz (if u use marble sometime stains [like berak curry] once left over for long time ..it will makan masuk then u farked)


then cabinet if you got budget then go for solid wood


if u want to cheap out then can go for Alu 1 ..actually quite ok also
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i got friend did that because want more budget friendly ..suprisingly quality is ok and wont have obvious steel sound

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post Jul 20 2023, 09:12 AM

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quartz is better.

but now better is cement top with limewash coating.

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post Jul 20 2023, 09:19 AM

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Quartz is one of the more resistant to stain as compare to marble.
And it is more into budget friendly compare to natural stones

I cook a lot and know a lot about stain.

Even quartz can't tahan Malaysian food stain. Like Kunyit, Cili oil, coffee. But quartz can be wipe away easily even it is stained

Marble or granite, good luck. They are very delicate need heavy maintanance.

Like here ppl say, go for aluminium frame, and bare minimal plywood. My house currently use MDF , regret to the max. Should have gonfor alu or plywood

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post Jul 20 2023, 09:24 AM

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aluminium and quartz stone best combination for heavy duty use. Use melamine kena air sure kembang.
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:24 AM

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Simen and tile, ugly but tahan lama
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:28 AM

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for wet kitchen concrete top with nice big porcelain tiles

nowadays tiles are big & beautiful just go to the tile shop to look.
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QUOTE(GoodMorningMY @ Jul 20 2023, 08:49 AM)
How to choose materials for kitchen cabinet?

Noob here.

Table Top - Quatz?

How about cabinets? What materials that can last longer and good looking?

I got quote said

Quartz stone top with melamine cabinet. Is that good?
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Concrete n tile.
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Jul 20 2023, 08:59 AM)
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ts, it all depends on your budget lar..
normally the most expensive, the better the materials and normally more long lasting & durable.
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my experience is as long as it's not wood
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 09:11 AM)
No please don't use this. Can easily stain. Quartz is better
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ayam actually think solid wood (good one) is pretty nice....

no need to scare it crack like marble or quartz
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:43 AM

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see what restaurant use everyday
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 20 2023, 09:40 AM)
ayam actually think solid wood (good one) is pretty nice....

no need to scare it crack like marble or quartz
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Solid wood you still need to maintain by adding some mineral oil if you didn't apply any paint on it. Also note that wood surfaces have grains in them and these collect dust and stains and not one professional kitchen uses wood for their counter tops.

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 20 2023, 09:40 AM)
ayam actually think solid wood (good one) is pretty nice....

no need to scare it crack like marble or quartz
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some extra maintenance might be needed

as that place will be main location to contact with water

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post Jul 20 2023, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 09:43 AM)
Solid wood you still need to maintain by adding some mineral oil if you didn't apply any paint on it. Also note that wood surfaces have grains in them and these collect dust and stains and not one professional kitchen uses wood for their counter tops.

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they use stainless steel top you know

quartz and marble just look good...

for practicality, just make a concrete frame and tile it. virtually maintenance free
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QUOTE(Lada Putih @ Jul 20 2023, 09:43 AM)
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Hahaha restaurants use stainless steel bro. It's cheap and easy to replace. Not the best for home kitchen.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 20 2023, 09:46 AM)
they use stainless steel top you know

quartz and marble just look good...

for practicality, just make a concrete frame and tile it. virtually maintenance free
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Yep as per my post on top of you.

Concrete is porus and will be dusty. Try visiting those gen z cafes with concrete everything. Run your hand through the surface and it's dusty as hell
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 09:47 AM)
Yep as per my post on top of you.

Concrete is porus and will be dusty. Try visiting those gen z cafes with concrete everything. Run your hand through the surface and it's dusty as hell
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that is why need to tile it lol
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post Jul 20 2023, 09:53 AM

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Quatz is better, can tahan heat and cheaper cost

marble look better, but cannot tahan heat, so usually use on rich ppl kitchen and seldom using...
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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Jul 20 2023, 09:12 AM)
quartz is better.

but now better is cement top with limewash coating.

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who can do that? need specialist to do?
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jul 20 2023, 09:54 AM)
who can do that? need specialist to do?
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any contractor can do cause its just cement and then polish with coating. no need put tiles.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 09:43 AM)
Solid wood you still need to maintain by adding some mineral oil if you didn't apply any paint on it. Also note that wood surfaces have grains in them and these collect dust and stains and not one professional kitchen uses wood for their counter tops.

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this, i feel like having a breakfast/bar counter with wood for my upcoming house

but man the amount of maintenance needed to do in future..

i wanted to use full steel for wet kitchen but my gf is like shakehead.gif lolol
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Got anyone use PVC foam board for cabinets?
Water and termite resistant.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 20 2023, 10:04 AM)
this, i feel like having a breakfast/bar counter with wood for my upcoming house

but man the amount of maintenance needed to do in future..

i wanted to use full steel for wet kitchen but my gf is like  shakehead.gif  lolol
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full stainless steel if use good grade stainless steel actually look very nice

workmanship also important, polishing and welding
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post Jul 20 2023, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 20 2023, 10:07 AM)
full stainless steel if use good grade stainless steel actually look very nice

workmanship also important, polishing and welding
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yeah but issue is she said it looks too much like commercial kitchen than a home kitchen haha

not something she wants. for me i wanted steel cause damn easy to clean and maintain
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 20 2023, 10:14 AM)
yeah but issue is she said it looks too much like commercial kitchen than a home kitchen haha

not something she wants. for me i wanted steel cause damn easy to clean and maintain
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like this not sexy meh?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 20 2023, 10:14 AM)
yeah but issue is she said it looks too much like commercial kitchen than a home kitchen haha

not something she wants. for me i wanted steel cause damn easy to clean and maintain
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 20 2023, 10:16 AM)
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like this not sexy meh?
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Stainless steel will fade over time (I donno the exact word) and there will be scratches (look closely at your car). Plus if you drop something on it, there will be a dent. I don't suggest this.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 10:20 AM)
Stainless steel will fade over time (I donno the exact word) and there will be scratches (look closely at your car). Plus if you drop something on it, there will be a dent. I don't suggest this.
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yeah this is expected cause the shiny polish will be gone and replaced with scratches. not a biggie IMO, i treat them as wear and tear feel

i dont mind those, but main concern OFC is rust as usual

QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 20 2023, 10:16 AM)
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like this not sexy meh?
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sexay, but my concept was completely different laugh.gif

something like this, this is why she said like commercial kitchen and a hard no
user posted image
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 20 2023, 10:23 AM)
yeah this is expected cause the shiny polish will be gone and replaced with scratches. not a biggie IMO, i treat them as wear and tear feel

i dont mind those, but main concern OFC is rust as usual
sexay, but my concept was completely different  laugh.gif

something like this, this is why she said like commercial kitchen and a hard no
user posted image
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As a husband. Listen to your future wife or you will never hear the end of it. Also this design is very cold. You do not want this in your personal kitchen

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 10:24 AM)
As a husband. Listen to your future wife or you will never hear the end of it.
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im already 70% adapted to this mantra now notworthy.gif

"happy wife happy life"
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 20 2023, 10:25 AM)
im already 70% adapted to this mantra now  notworthy.gif

"happy wife happy life"
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When I designed my kitchen I had to let the ID meet with my wife and he basically said the same. I'm Married with kid already and whos in the kitchen most of the time?

Me 😂.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 10:28 AM)
When I designed my kitchen I had to let the ID meet with my wife and he basically said the same. I'm Married with kid already and whos in the kitchen most of the time?

Me 😂.
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haha this is one of the things i prepped in my arsenal if my gf want to shoot me on the design. cause she never cooks.. or rarely

but yeah i agree that it looks dull and cold, but i feel its best for my cooking style/workflow since i usually cook chinese food and it is easier to clean + utilise

all the oil splatters + water splashes etc would be terrible on wood based cabinets. i know cause my parents kitchen atm is kinda nasty RN. look is one thing, cant get rid of the wet damp smell forever embedded zzz

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 10:20 AM)
Stainless steel will fade over time (I donno the exact word) and there will be scratches (look closely at your car). Plus if you drop something on it, there will be a dent. I don't suggest this.
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Some sort of coating due to oxidation

That and scratch mark can easily remove by polishing

After that look like new

Also don't use mirror finish surface, that one is scratch mark magnet

The drop that dent stainless steel top will very likely to crack your quartz top

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 20 2023, 10:23 AM)
yeah this is expected cause the shiny polish will be gone and replaced with scratches. not a biggie IMO, i treat them as wear and tear feel

i dont mind those, but main concern OFC is rust as usual
sexay, but my concept was completely different  laugh.gif

something like this, this is why she said like commercial kitchen and a hard no
user posted image
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This one can buy pre made one from market. Cheap and nasty



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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 20 2023, 10:40 AM)
This one can buy pre made one from market. Cheap and nasty
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yeah IKR? wobbles like jelly also lmao

using this as workbench at wet kitchen, works very well so far but unsightly
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jul 20 2023, 10:42 AM)
yeah IKR? wobbles like jelly also lmao

using this as workbench at wet kitchen, works very well so far but unsightly
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just tell your wife this will stand the test of the time

quartz and marble will get stained yo
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 20 2023, 10:44 AM)
just tell your wife this will stand the test of the time

quartz and marble will get stained yo
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dry kitchen most likely settle with quartz since come together with the unit + plywood cabinets

just the wet kitchen part still unsure. otherwise i might just call in contractors to pour concrete top & bottom then tiled it up. but havent thought as far as what to fit in under as cabinets
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wet kitchen best dont use wood . very hum high humidity will deform
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jul 20 2023, 09:12 AM)
if u plan to use for long term

table top - quartz (if u use marble sometime stains [like berak curry] once left over for long time ..it will makan masuk then u farked)
then cabinet if you got budget then go for solid wood
if u want to cheap out then can go for Alu 1 ..actually quite ok also
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i got friend did that because want more budget friendly ..suprisingly quality is ok and wont have obvious steel sound
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The steel one how much your friend does?
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Is stainless steel top cheaper than quartz?
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melamine no good . cheapest material .
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 20 2023, 12:20 PM)
The steel one how much your friend does?
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cant recall that ..quite sometime ago

our layout n size quite similar ..i remember is like almost 30% cheaper than mine
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 09:46 AM)
Hahaha restaurants use stainless steel bro. It's cheap and easy to replace. Not the best for home kitchen.
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depends what you are using for home kitchen
if home kitchen kejap kejap sentuh and for look nice then get expensive or whatever makes you think they last just as long.
commercial kitchen easy for replacement because due to high and heavy use.
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Quartz how much per sqft including cabinets etc

Can share few nice deco
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Quartz la. Cheap. Easier maintenance. But stain will still appear la. Use light color so it looked airy. Dark color big no.

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aluminum or stainless steel for kitchen cabinet.

wood one tend to rot or have ants/termite eat them
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My parents house using full Cengal wood, cost them 40K in the 80s..

Sink area need cement and tiles. Wood cannot last there.

Nowadays got alternative materials other than wood like aluminium and panels.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 20 2023, 12:51 PM)
My parents house using full Cengal wood, cost them 40K in the 80s..

Sink area need cement and tiles. Wood cannot last there.

Nowadays got alternative materials other than wood like aluminium and panels.
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wow, that price can buy a house that time

richfaq spotted.
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2x2 tiles je. still tahan what.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 20 2023, 10:20 AM)
Stainless steel will fade over time (I donno the exact word) and there will be scratches (look closely at your car). Plus if you drop something on it, there will be a dent. I don't suggest this.
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scratches is fine, rusts on the other hands, not.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 20 2023, 09:21 AM)
Quartz is one of the more resistant to stain as compare to marble.
And it is more into budget friendly compare to natural stones

I cook a lot and know a lot about stain.

Even quartz can't tahan Malaysian food stain. Like Kunyit, Cili oil, coffee. But quartz can be wipe away easily even it is stained

Marble or granite, good luck. They are very delicate need heavy maintanance.

Like here ppl say, go for aluminium frame, and bare minimal plywood. My house currently use MDF , regret to the max. Should have gonfor alu or plywood
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Well fuck. I'm using both granite and MDF lol

But my renovator told me granite is much more durable than quartz stone? Blimey the cost of granite is almost twice or quartz as well
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Jul 20 2023, 01:24 PM)
Well fuck. I'm using both granite and MDF lol

But my renovator told me granite is much more durable than quartz stone? Blimey the cost of granite is almost twice or quartz as well
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Hahaha MDF and kitchen doesn't blend well.
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My advise, don’t go for cheap quartz. They are rubbish. Not maintenance free like quartz is supposed to be. If you want to use quartz go for branded ones where they advertises the composition of the quartz.

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very good tered.

anyone can advise the cement top need special care for it to look nice? planning to have cement top and island

sorry, ayam noob here.
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If you have a dry kitchen where it is away from the oil and water, WOOD countertop will be good.

Wood gives a warm feeling.

The part near to water and oil and the kitchen, choose a material that is non-porous.

Tiles is hard wearing but have grout lines that can trap dirt and looks dirty over time.

Stainless steel can attract scratches and dents over time.
Wood also can get scratches and chips over time.
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QUOTE(OldSchoolJoke @ Jul 20 2023, 03:40 PM)
very good tered.

anyone can advise the cement top need special care for it to look nice? planning to have cement top and island

sorry, ayam noob here.
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Cement top no need special care wan if scratch just ask cement guy come touch up or just leave it. But must ask them polish and put sealant la. This mine got scratches and natural stain but looks nicer imo.

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Nothing is impervious. even if it is, mainly there is a layer/coating act as sealant and exposing to rapid temp. break its bonds. For now go for quartz for top (higher grade / known brand yea. Not cheapo one), solid wood for base. or tiled concrete (the old ways. tile big big lor if want less grout connection 2x2' is sweet spot)

I see a recent trend where sintered stone is used as counter top. Still new i think, not sure how well it lasts. Two of the client has this insists & applied recent years so have to wait and see when she will comeback to me & meroyan about it.
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post Jul 20 2023, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Jul 20 2023, 03:47 PM)
Cement top no need special care wan if scratch just ask cement guy come touch up or just leave it. But must ask them polish and put sealant la. This mine got scratches and natural stain but looks nicer imo.

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nice, can give size and price estimate?
yours after scratches looks more to brutalism concept
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QUOTE(OldSchoolJoke @ Jul 20 2023, 10:52 PM)
nice, can give size and price estimate?
yours after scratches looks more to brutalism concept
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just for the island

about 1.8m x 1m x 0.08m (1800mm x 1000mm x 800mm)

checking my ID quote if everything include a 3 tier drawers and cupboard is about 10k.
but if just count the cement top without the additional accessories is only 4k.
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how aluminium cabinet looks like?
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post Jul 21 2023, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Jul 20 2023, 11:11 PM)
just for the island

about 1.8m x 1m x 0.08m (1800mm x 1000mm x 800mm)

checking my ID quote if everything include a 3 tier drawers and  cupboard is about 10k.
but if just count the cement top without the additional accessories is only 4k.
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not bad. the drawers good quality?

the cement top you mentioned is island + the main kitchen top or just island?
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QUOTE(OldSchoolJoke @ Jul 21 2023, 12:22 AM)
not bad. the drawers good quality?

the cement top you mentioned is island + the main kitchen top or just island?
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ok la normal soft close drawers and i think somesort of board

just island and bar table if want to put electric stove also can but i no put la

something like this

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QUOTE(NathanJeans @ Jul 21 2023, 12:28 AM)
ok la normal soft close drawers and i think somesort of board

just island and bar table if want to put electric stove also can but i no put la

something like this

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that's nice, can pm me the ID contact? might wanna engage them in future once my house is done

thanks for your information!
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I have a small kitchen .. Top is marble/Granite cant remember and the base is wood type .. should be std material since I did not cook much as initial wanted to go for solid wood like Nyatoh but being advised dont need.
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Who will use the kitchen ? Your maid ?

If yes just use 2x2 tiles for table top.

If u use yourself the. Proceed with quartz top, melamine body, spray paint for the door.

 

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