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post Jul 16 2023, 10:22 AM, updated 3y ago

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Now Tesla so cheap at rm200k is a real steal I expect next year the road will be flood with Tesla cars.

My concern before buy is can those stay in condo buy Tesla or better wait have some e charging facility installed by the condo?
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:23 AM

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Usually newer condos allow to install
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:24 AM

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only if your condo is like commercial + residential

or already prepare by developer

if u plan to pasang on your own parking lot

got many limitations (like car park layout and space ; nearest plug/power source ) and JMB might not allow you to do that due to safety reason/regulation

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post Jul 16 2023, 10:26 AM

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anyone's condo management allowed to tarik wiring n let u install meter n charger?

so far none i saw

only new condo that comes default with it
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:30 AM

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No.
Better take bus / train / bicycle.
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Buy buy buy
1st buy condo with EV, 2nd buy ur Tesla
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Jul 16 2023, 10:23 AM)
Usually newer condos allow to install
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As long as jmk can make money out of it I sappork. Pls charge expensive expensive!
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 16 2023, 10:22 AM)
Now Tesla so cheap at rm200k is a real steal I expect next year the road will be flood with Tesla cars.

My concern before buy is can those stay in condo buy Tesla or better wait have some e charging facility installed by the condo?
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Tesla cars cheap cheap ke?
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(premier239 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:26 AM)
anyone's condo management allowed to tarik wiring n let u install meter n charger?

so far none i saw

only new condo that comes default with it
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sometime JMB scare ; once they allowed to do for owner A (because owner A car park near to existing plug)

then owner B will try to do but fail then non stop complain

check all those limitation and get JMB approval first ..before commit for EV

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post Jul 16 2023, 10:32 AM

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depends. My condo no issues. U can install but u pay extra maintenance fee.
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:34 AM

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buy a small generator to change your Tesla.
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:34 AM

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But the condos near Sunway Xtreme park la. Can fast charge there and then walk home. Then come back later to collect car. Get free exercise also.
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:35 AM

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I read the jmb ruling recently

charger must be on ground level, open area, eg usually visitor carpark area

this will be an issue to basement and multistorey carpark for residence
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:37 AM

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Buy buy buy. Don't wait. Ada Tesla ada amoi.
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:37 AM

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My 5 years old condo didnt allow us to pasang charger at own parking 🥺 jmb and owner didnt agreed because of messy to implement such as pulling tnb cable etc etc.

But to compromise they install charge sini charger at visitor parking. No cost to jmb.
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:32 AM)
Tesla cars cheap cheap ke?
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180k only
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:38 AM

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post Jul 16 2023, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jul 16 2023, 10:34 AM)
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Got solar charger already, you can try.
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(bugipunch @ Jul 16 2023, 10:32 AM)
depends. My condo no issues. U can install but u pay extra maintenance fee.
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If many people start doing it surely got problem. 1 wall charger 11kW. If condo got 1000 unit and 0.5% (50 people) install then thats 550kW added capacity already, almost 1MW. Electrical system in the whole condo needs to be revised...

Hence I don't recommend people buy EV if their intention is to install wall charger at their condo private parking.

Even new condo (i.e. the Minh) also only have common area EV charging which is like 6 spaces only for the entire condo. And thats is designed and built from the ground up....Old condo retrofit with owner's own wall box surely will have regulation issues or even worse - safety.

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post Jul 16 2023, 10:41 AM

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kesian stay condo wan act rich
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:37 AM)
180k only
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Ya, maintenace will kill you, bawah pokok mechanics don't have skill yet, maybe 5 years's time.
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:41 AM

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Most of the new condo came witb EV isolator liao, should be OK la

But if your condo don't have EV isolator 1 then don't put shit on your body lor
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just buy 1 landed house to charge ur tesla ,opposite then can stay ur own condo
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post Jul 16 2023, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:41 AM)
Ya, maintenace will kill you, bawah pokok mechanics don't have skill yet, maybe 5 years's time.
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Basically it dont have much consumable spares you know



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post Jul 16 2023, 10:44 AM

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post Jul 16 2023, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:41 AM)
Most of the new condo came witb EV isolator liao, should be OK la

But if your condo don't have EV isolator 1 then don't put shit on your body lor
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This is new to me. May I know example of new condo with isol at every car park?

This is very difficult to design for condo as EV charging increases electrical load exponentially. Generally most people will charge their EV at night (especially weekends). So the load will be all at once...if the condo has 1000 car park each with their own isol, then the design should accomodate for 500 people charging at the same time (5.5MW). Thats huge cost to developer...
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QUOTE(Legozz @ Jul 16 2023, 10:46 AM)
This is new to me. May I know example of new condo with isol at every car park?

This is very difficult to design for condo as EV charging increases electrical load exponentially. Generally most people will charge their EV at night (especially weekends). So the load will be all at once...if the condo has 1000 car park each with their own isol, then the design should accomodate for 500 people charging at the same time (5.5MW). Thats huge cost to developer...
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I mean I am checking out projects and EV isolator is available

Technicality wise, I am not sure
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 16 2023, 10:22 AM)
Now Tesla so cheap at rm200k is a real steal I expect next year the road will be flood with Tesla cars.

My concern before buy is can those stay in condo buy Tesla or better wait have some e charging facility installed by the condo?
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Ask your condo management first.
If they dont have then buy new condo that has or allow … before buy the car.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:44 AM)
Basically it dont have much consumable spares you know
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If mati di tepi jalan, which mechanic can help or must tow to Tesla workshop?
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post Jul 16 2023, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:01 AM)
If mati di tepi jalan, which mechanic can help or must tow to Tesla workshop?
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Dat is true for VW and BMW car too you know
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QUOTE(bugipunch @ Jul 16 2023, 10:32 AM)
depends. My condo no issues. U can install but u pay extra maintenance fee.
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How much is the extra maintenance fee? What reason they give? Thought installation pull cable is 1-off charge
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post Jul 16 2023, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jul 16 2023, 11:05 AM)
How much is the extra maintenance fee? What reason they give? Thought installation pull cable is 1-off charge
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LOl, the extra stress on wiring and switchgear no need to count ah?
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:01 AM)
If mati di tepi jalan, which mechanic can help or must tow to Tesla workshop?
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Modern cars should be full of diagnostics electronics on board. If got problem it won’t suddenly switch off. Will have lots of warnings coming out way before that
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:06 AM)
LOl, the extra stress on wiring and switchgear no need to count ah?
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Pay 1-off installation fee. Maintenance fee comes with logic that there’s constant cleaning/maintenance being done to the facility
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QUOTE(Ickythump @ Jul 16 2023, 10:41 AM)
kesian stay condo wan act rich
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i thought there's premium condo's that have selling price of 1 million and above
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QUOTE(premier239 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:26 AM)
anyone's condo management allowed to tarik wiring n let u install meter n charger?

so far none i saw

only new condo that comes default with it
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Got, they tarik from own unit DB source then run conduit to that car park unit. Powered a 330e
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jul 16 2023, 11:09 AM)
Modern cars should be full of diagnostics electronics on board. If got problem it won’t suddenly switch off. Will have lots of warnings coming out way before that
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More electronics is always the issues.
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That’s why ayam thinking of moving to landed just so I can buy EV and have peace of mind and overnight charging.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:12 AM)
Got, they tarik from own unit DB source then run conduit to that car park unit. Powered a 330e
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Condos usually come with single phase electrical installation kan? Enough to charge the EV ke? If can only install slow charging, macam futile attempt.
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postpone the purchase of a tesla if necessary to buy a landed house instead.
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post Jul 16 2023, 11:20 AM

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Talk to your jmb on installing charging points, put up in AGM to put it through
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 16 2023, 11:17 AM)
Condos usually come with single phase electrical installation kan? Enough to charge the EV ke? If can only install slow charging, macam futile attempt.
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How many chargers are available in Malaysia for you to buy Tesla? This is not US, where Tesla chargers are available in abundance.

Even petrol station with EV chargers, I see motorbikes park at EV charger place, some cars park there also & got sellers selling snacks use the EV charge car park as their selling spot doh.gif really damn annoying when I see. Malaysian and their stupid entitled mentality.

Until the chargers become abundant & Malaysians mentality change on taking care of EV facilities, really not good idea to buy EV car.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 16 2023, 11:17 AM)
Condos usually come with single phase electrical installation kan? Enough to charge the EV ke? If can only install slow charging, macam futile attempt.
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Up to 13 A can one

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:20 AM)
postpone the purchase of a tesla if necessary to buy a landed house instead.
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Yea 200k car i would assume already can afford stay 1M house … if stay 600k condo that without EV charger but buy 200k car something is wrong

Like buy iPhone but house no electricity, use candle at night …
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 16 2023, 10:22 AM)
Now Tesla so cheap at rm200k is a real steal I expect next year the road will be flood with Tesla cars.

My concern before buy is can those stay in condo buy Tesla or better wait have some e charging facility installed by the condo?
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Your definition of cheap, installment of 7 years less than 10% of your net income?
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 16 2023, 10:34 AM)
But the condos near Sunway Xtreme park la. Can fast charge there and then walk home. Then come back later to collect car. Get free exercise also.
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Sunway Xtreme park expensive charging.. rm1.50/kWh

Home charging 20cents-57cents/kWh only..
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:32 AM)
Sunway Xtreme park expensive charging.. rm1.50/kWh

Home charging 20cents-57cents/kWh only..
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The price of convenience. laugh.gif Condos there aren't cheap either.
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post Jul 16 2023, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:27 AM)
Your definition of cheap, installment of 7 years less than 10% of your net income?
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Rm400k ori price now rn200k is cheap
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Yea 200k car i would assume already can afford stay 1M house … if stay 600k condo that without EV charger but buy 200k car something is wrong

Like buy iPhone but house no electricity, use candle at night …
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 16 2023, 10:22 AM)
Now Tesla so cheap at rm200k is a real steal I expect next year the road will be flood with Tesla cars.

My concern before buy is can those stay in condo buy Tesla or better wait have some e charging facility installed by the condo?
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Uncle will charge at office…since uncle kuli always spend 4h in office a day
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QUOTE(Legozz @ Jul 16 2023, 10:40 AM)
If many people start doing it surely got problem. 1 wall charger 11kW. If condo got 1000 unit and 0.5% (50 people) install then thats 550kW added capacity already, almost 1MW. Electrical system in the whole condo needs to be revised...

Hence I don't recommend people buy EV if their intention is to install wall charger at their condo private parking.

Even new condo (i.e. the Minh) also only have common area EV charging which is like 6 spaces only for the entire condo. And thats is designed and built from the ground up....Old condo retrofit with owner's own wall box surely will have regulation issues or even worse - safety.
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Your logic is flaw. Even 50 people installed charger, they dont charge EV at the same time and thus wont burden their electrical system.

Using your logic, got 1000 units, each unit install 3 airconds, each 1HP, then 3000 HP= 2237 kW, that is 2.2MW!!! Then you said, dont install aircond, lol.
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Isit legal if I open EV charging business with coffee shop like PETRONAS and start making business
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Up to JMB or MC to decide.

The power will tap from the common area DB. If the power supply is enough then should be ok. If not, bad luck.


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There are opening for business to install them, saw it in facebook.

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QUOTE(GoodMorningMY @ Jul 16 2023, 11:38 AM)
Your logic is flaw. Even 50 people installed charger, they dont charge EV at the same time and thus wont burden their electrical system.

Using your logic, got 1000 units, each unit install 3 airconds, each 1HP, then 3000 HP= 2237 kW, that is 2.2MW!!! Then you said, dont install aircond, lol.
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The max load is already calculated on worst case that everyone pull full amps on the switchgear continuously. This is not Pakistan where there are blackouts and brownouts as a daily occurrence.

Supply wise on one unit say it’s 63A or up to 63x3 if 3phase means TNB already warranted that you can use anywhere between 0-63A per phase safely.

highest amp of motor is Imax when starting from zero
It is unlikely that ALL 1000x ac motors’ random delay timer match at the same second. Like that better buy jackpot

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 16 2023, 10:22 AM)
Now Tesla so cheap at rm200k is a real steal I expect next year the road will be flood with Tesla cars.

My concern before buy is can those stay in condo buy Tesla or better wait have some e charging facility installed by the condo?
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Uncle will charge at office…since uncle kuli always spend 4h in office a day
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Not worth it to invest in electric car for condo.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Jul 16 2023, 11:53 AM)
Not worth it to invest in electric car for condo.
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my company have Ev charger

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QUOTE(iamtheone2020 @ Jul 16 2023, 12:02 PM)
My company aldy install one EV charger per 3 parking space, whoever drive EV car entitled to take loan from company with intrest rate of 0.5% only. And the EV charger at company is free for use yea. They installed a lot of solar panel , basically  cover the whole roof in order to promote green energy use
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EV energy also come from TNB coal fired plant 🪴
Doesn’t sound very green per se
It’s just passing the pollution token around to other people lol

Instead using BMW is the greener alternative (bus mrt walk)!
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:50 AM)
The max load is already calculated on worst case that everyone pull full amps on the switchgear continuously. This is not Pakistan where there are blackouts and brownouts as a daily occurrence.

Supply wise on one unit say it’s 63A or up to 63x3 if 3phase means TNB already warranted that you can use anywhere between 0-63A per phase safely.

highest amp of motor is Imax when starting from zero
It is unlikely that ALL 1000x ac motors’ random delay timer match at the same second. Like that better buy jackpot
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that is exactly my point. Installing tesla charger wont burden the condo electrical system.
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QUOTE(premier239 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:26 AM)
anyone's condo management allowed to tarik wiring n let u install meter n charger?

so far none i saw

only new condo that comes default with it
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Pavilion hilltop can

I also saw some owner installed charger at their parking bay in my condo too. Didnt ask the procedure
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 16 2023, 11:55 AM)
Car is an investment?? I tot liability whistling.gif
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It is a liability correct...you invest in the charging facilities.

Electric car "systems"

Damn if you buy a charger... Jolly well charge others to use it too!


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QUOTE(iamtheone2020 @ Jul 16 2023, 12:02 PM)
My company aldy install one EV charger per 3 parking space, whoever drive EV car entitled to take loan from company with intrest rate of 0.5% only. And the EV charger at company is free for use yea. They installed a lot of solar panel , basically  cover the whole roof in order to promote green energy use
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 16 2023, 12:05 PM)
EV energy also come from TNB coal fired plant 🪴
Doesn’t sound very green per se
It’s just passing the pollution token around to other people lol

Instead using BMW is the greener alternative (bus mrt walk)!
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Already said company install solar panels.

Or are you gonna then say production of solar panels is polluting too and hence passing the token around.

Yes BMW is greener alternative but why are you comparing public and private transport.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 16 2023, 12:05 PM)
EV energy also come from TNB coal fired plant 🪴
Doesn’t sound very green per se
It’s just passing the pollution token around to other people lol

Instead using BMW is the greener alternative (bus mrt walk)!
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Atleast tnb coal power plant is more efficient than single small power plant like car.
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post Jul 16 2023, 12:46 PM

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Pakai generator je
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1. make law.
2. work around.

The California Air Resources Board recently approved a rule that would require 100 percent of new light- and medium-duty vehicles sold in the state to be zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) by 2035; this authority is afforded to the state under the Clean Air Act.
https://www.americanactionforum.org/insight...onwide-impacts/
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post Jul 16 2023, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jul 16 2023, 10:22 AM)
Now Tesla so cheap at rm200k is a real steal I expect next year the road will be flood with Tesla cars.

My concern before buy is can those stay in condo buy Tesla or better wait have some e charging facility installed by the condo?
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Better apply for your own charger and lock it. Shared means waiting for the next person in the queue. Or some sohai charge then go pangsai and then piap maid, return after 3 hours. If kenot afford the wall installation and elec bills better dun buy, fuel is still cheap.

Condos also need 3-phase wiring in their basement areas so conversion from single to 3 phase also need to consider.
Check out the chargers abt installation online before thinking abt moving to ev.

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:24 AM)
if u plan to pasang on your own parking lot

got many limitations (like car park layout and space ; nearest plug/power source ) and JMB might not allow you to do that due to safety reason/regulation
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so if you're lucky u got tiang lampu, can tap from there

like me

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jul 16 2023, 10:41 AM)
Ya, maintenace will kill you, bawah pokok mechanics don't have skill yet, maybe 5 years's time.
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Maintain what?
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Charge outside je la.. bukan nak me-time ke?

Charge 1/2 hour to enjoy me-time, layan netflix in car, listen music or play game.
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post Jul 16 2023, 03:08 PM

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Charge pakai powerbank je.
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post Jul 16 2023, 03:12 PM

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Some newer condo dah say EV friendly as feature. How friendly I tak tau.
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QUOTE(oM41GoD_ @ Jul 16 2023, 12:15 PM)
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Pakai generator je
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just wonder what is the mile/gallon are they getting. i believe it could be worst than vios.
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QUOTE(bugipunch @ Jul 16 2023, 10:32 AM)
depends. My condo no issues. U can install but u pay extra maintenance fee.
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like how much extra? 5% or 10%?
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joker like bobby ang propose pasang to as many parking spot as possible but electricity cost everyone bayar. lel.

die die you still need a meter. people that dont use EV need to fork money, apa lanjiao
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Only applies to those wannabe rich buy 'big' car but stay in flat
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Kinda Kesian buy 200k house but no where to charge. Kek
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No, better not
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Buy now cry later

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My JMB want to do it properly with standardized trunking and a few centralized location to install TNB meter else it will be a mess if everyone do their own wiring and meter. There's some regulation on bomba compliance too.

Consultant said we will need to upgrade main switch board. Combined with the cost of installing the trunking and adding the electrical riser room, it's gonna cost a bomb.

JMB decided to on hold until there are more demand due to high cost. They want to wait for official standards from TNB or SIRIM too.

For interim solution, they added a few EV charging bay and enforce charge time limit.

 

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