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 Lecturer with PhD STARTING Salary in Malaysia?

Lecturer (with PhD) STARTING salary in Malaysia
 
Below 3k [ 32 ] ** [27.59%]
3k - 3.9k [ 6 ] ** [5.17%]
4k - 4.9k [ 15 ] ** [12.93%]
5k - 5.9k [ 24 ] ** [20.69%]
6k - 6.9k [ 10 ] ** [8.62%]
7k - 7.9k [ 3 ] ** [2.59%]
8k - 8.9k [ 4 ] ** [3.45%]
Above 9k [ 22 ] ** [18.97%]
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TShellothere131495
post Jul 14 2023, 12:57 PM, updated 3y ago

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I am gathering information about Lecturers salaries in Malaysia. With PhD. Regardless from which institution.

I am referring to STARTING salary.

Please vote, especially if you are a Lecturer.

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post Jul 14 2023, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 12:57 PM)
I am gathering information about Lecturers salaries in Malaysia. With PhD. Regardless from which institution.

I am referring to STARTING salary.

Please vote, especially if you are a Lecturer.
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Gomen uni ikut job level kan.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jul 14 2023, 12:59 PM)
Gomen uni ikut job level kan.
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Yes. DS45 DS51 DS52 DS53 DS54 Special ABC

But I want to ask private uni/college too.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:01 PM

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public or private? if public can just refer tangga gaji for most universities, if private depends on the management.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Jul 14 2023, 01:01 PM)
public or private? if public can just refer tangga gaji for most universities, if private depends on the management.
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i want know private.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:07 PM

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13 years ago, I remember the offer was about 5.5k before allowance for govt unis and UTAR level unis. Those foreign unis with campuses in Malaysia offer more.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(YummyFriedOnions @ Jul 14 2023, 01:07 PM)
13 years ago, I remember the offer was about 5.5k before allowance for govt unis and UTAR level unis. Those foreign unis with campuses in Malaysia offer more.
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May i know the foreign unis offer? Got 7k?
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 01:15 PM)
May i know the foreign unis offer? Got 7k?
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Yeah, more than 7k at that time.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:27 PM

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A friend fresh grad PhD without industry experience got 7.5k starting salary. Private uni

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post Jul 14 2023, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 01:15 PM)
May i know the foreign unis offer? Got 7k?
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Gomen, starting salary is gred 51. 5.8k + 1.6k allowance (could be more if you're SM > SS or SS > SM).

Private - depends on the institutions.

If the institution solely rely on Teaching and Learning (T&L), I heard 6k starting is common.

If the institution also have Research and Publication as part of the institution's goals, then 8k upwards as starting is common.

This is for PhD-requirement positions.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:32 PM

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5 digits.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 12:57 PM)
I am gathering information about Lecturers salaries in Malaysia. With PhD. Regardless from which institution.

I am referring to STARTING salary.

Please vote, especially if you are a Lecturer.
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Depend you are nons or malay
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 01:03 PM)
i want know private.
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Cheh then ur question bodo lah
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:38 PM

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post Jul 14 2023, 01:41 PM

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I have a client, 35 year old lecturer with a popular college in Bukit Damansara, only got Masters, no PHD, was already on 5.5k a month.

I know a head of faculty in a University in Cyberjaya who holds 3 PHDs, 15k a month, drive Proton Accodana. Lose to ktard 20k a month SPM grad.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 01:15 PM)
May i know the foreign unis offer? Got 7k?
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University of Chiang Mai offered approx MYR5.5K gross earlier this year. It's a govt uni. Ah well at least can hear a lot of sawadeekap over there.

Certain other foreign pvt unis (which shall remain unnamed) offer bonuses and bounties on academic paper publications with the highest going to those accepted by Q1 journals.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Zaazuu @ Jul 14 2023, 01:30 PM)
Gomen, starting salary is gred 51. 5.8k + 1.6k allowance (could be more if you're SM > SS or SS > SM).

Private - depends on the institutions.

If the institution solely rely on Teaching and Learning (T&L), I heard 6k starting is common.

If the institution also have Research and Publication as part of the institution's goals, then 8k upwards as starting is common.

This is for PhD-requirement positions.
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Pay is ok-ish.

Problem is the profile they hired. Had always been some kind of nerds that never had any kind of industry experience.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:53 PM

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they earn money by publishing research
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jul 14 2023, 01:52 PM)
Pay is ok-ish.

Problem is the profile they hired. Had always been some kind of nerds that never had any kind of industry experience.
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True.

Because if you are already in the industry, why are you diving into the education field, what more in gomen lol.

That's why current practice in gomen uni is prioritizing PhD holder with industrial experience, but not many with industrial experience AND a PhD apply... if a Gred 51 position is open, probably only 1 or 2 with industrial experience apply.

Because the current practice is you can only increase your starting salary i.e. for 51, is RM295/year AFTER your highest academic qualification.

Example - an engineer with 10 years experience in O&G, then after that 10 years you studied and obtained PhD. That 10 years of industrial experience prior to obtaining PhD cannot be used to increase starting salary, only experience AFTER your highest academic qualification counts.
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post Jul 14 2023, 02:09 PM

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idk lecturer.. but cikgu sure lots money...

always kene scam 2 3 juta.
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post Jul 14 2023, 04:08 PM

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If u come from a university that produce hundreds of PhDs a year, anything more than 3k is a bonus.

Buying one online is a better option.
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post Jul 14 2023, 04:18 PM

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basic 5.xK gred ds51.
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post Jul 14 2023, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Zaazuu @ Jul 14 2023, 02:03 PM)
True.

Because if you are already in the industry, why are you diving into the education field, what more in gomen lol.

That's why current practice in gomen uni is prioritizing PhD holder with industrial experience, but not many with industrial experience AND a PhD apply... if a Gred 51 position is open, probably only 1 or 2 with industrial experience apply.

Because the current practice is you can only increase your starting salary i.e. for 51, is RM295/year AFTER your highest academic qualification.

Example - an engineer with 10 years experience in O&G, then after that 10 years you studied and obtained PhD. That 10 years of industrial experience prior to obtaining PhD cannot be used to increase starting salary, only experience AFTER your highest academic qualification counts.
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That sucks. Weird policy. Must be crafted by those who never worked in industry.
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 12:57 PM)
I am gathering information about Lecturers salaries in Malaysia. With PhD. Regardless from which institution.

I am referring to STARTING salary.

Please vote, especially if you are a Lecturer.
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RM 58,888
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post Jul 14 2023, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jul 14 2023, 05:11 PM)
That sucks. Weird policy. Must be crafted by those who never worked in industry.
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That's how academia works. It has been always like this.

It's just that industry people cannot accept it because they think industry is the real thing and it's simply unacceptable for lecturers have no industry experience and go teach.

The fact is, teaching is teaching, industry is industry. Different things. Industry experience won't help you teach better at university. You will just have a lot of stories to share to students only. Your 20 years industry experience won't help your students to score better at exams.

Teaching experience is much more important than industry experience for academic positions.
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How come so many people vote below 3k? Trolling or what.

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lecturer told me part time was 100/hr, private uni
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QUOTE(Kylow @ Jul 14 2023, 05:52 PM)
lecturer told me part time was 100/hr, private uni
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How come it's per hourly based salary?

Lecturer permanent position should be monthly based salary
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post Jul 14 2023, 05:54 PM

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go interview them la sohai..this not right place to ask
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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 05:53 PM)
How come it's per hourly based salary?

Lecturer permanent position should be monthly based salary
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yeah permanent is monthly
I only know part time mah
agak agak la you count
say you teach 2 subjects, combined 18 hours a week
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QUOTE(Gonzalesz @ Jul 14 2023, 05:54 PM)
go interview them la sohai..this not right place to ask
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i don't know many of them. btw, this is the easiest place to get answers, even though it's inaccurate but at least some are honest answers.
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no xperience... 3k+ kat international school.
after 3-6mths probation, depends on performance, 4k+...
can oso earn from tuition, provided by the school.
buta buta, earn up to 5k+...
if under malaysian company, salary increment... low.
if international company, higher.

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 05:50 PM)
That's how academia works. It has been always like this.

It's just that industry people cannot accept it because they think industry is the real thing and it's simply unacceptable for lecturers have no industry experience and go teach.

The fact is, teaching is teaching, industry is industry. Different things. Industry experience won't help you teach better at university. You will just have a lot of stories to share to students only. Your 20 years industry experience won't help your students to score better at exams.

Teaching experience is much more important than industry experience for academic positions.
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If this is the mentality that produces the current graduates......
No wonder..
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post Jul 14 2023, 06:04 PM

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Those that can't do teach and those they can't teach teach gym.
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QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Jul 14 2023, 05:11 PM)
That sucks. Weird policy. Must be crafted by those who never worked in industry.
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yeah, the policy is set by JPA.

Us lecturers can't do much anyway
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Here mathematic A+ formulae

1.diploma
2.higher diploma
3.degree
4.PHD
5.Master

Basic salary 1500 X 4 = 6000

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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jul 14 2023, 05:52 PM)
How come so many people vote below 3k? Trolling or what.
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you did not define the question properly.

1. lecturer phd with postdoc experience starting salary
2. lecturer just graduate with phd

the two starting salary is vastly different smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kylow @ Jul 14 2023, 05:52 PM)
lecturer told me part time was 100/hr, private uni
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That RM100/hour was the rate that I use to do part time lecturing in 2006. whistling.gif
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Fresh grad phd with no working experience. 6k for UTP based on the information i gathered ,5 to 7 years ago. Heriot watt is around 8k iirc.Public university is way lower than that but they have allowance.




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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jul 14 2023, 06:55 PM)
Fresh grad phd with no working experience. 6k for UTP based on the information i gathered ,5 to 7 years ago. Heriot watt is around 8k iirc.Public university is way lower than that but they have allowance.
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UTM starting pay

Grade 51 starting - RM5855 + RM700 (housing) + RM300 (Bantuan Sara Hidup, depends on location) + RM600 (keraian)
Do the math... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Jul 14 2023, 07:00 PM)
UTM starting pay

Grade 51 starting - RM5855 + RM700 (housing) + RM300 (Bantuan Sara Hidup, depends on location) + RM600 (keraian)
Do the math...  whistling.gif
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Was it the same 5-7 years ago? Other private university might have revised higher as well but i dont have the updated info.
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jul 14 2023, 07:03 PM)
Was it the same 5-7 years ago? Other private university might have revised higher as well but i dont have the updated info.
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public uni pay has been the same since the last salary revision in 2013
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