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TSngaisteve2
post Jul 14 2023, 07:43 AM, updated 3y ago

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I am trying to do research to compile which residential property has the highest density. My calculation is based on units per acre. More accurate is to use total rooms per acre, but I don't have much data. If anyone has, please provide. icon_rolleyes.gif

Although Razak City Residences has the highest total units but in terms of highest unit per acre it is Astrum Ampang

1. Razak City Residences, total units: 5748, acres: 22
2. OUG Parklane, total units: 4425, acres: 30.08
3. M Vertica, total units: 3600, acres: 11.25
4. Astrum Ampang, total units: 5225, acres: 6.23

Is there any property has a higher density than these three property?

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Since OUG Parklane, I assume that all units are 3 rooms. For Razak City Residences, I use 2.5 for calculation as some unit 2 rooms, some 3 rooms.

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post Jul 14 2023, 08:05 AM

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1400units within very small acre I think
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post Jul 14 2023, 08:06 AM

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density is not just looking at the number of units, more accurate is to look at the number of people staying.

if small units, the number of ppl is lower, like 1-2 person. 800-1000 sf is normally 4 person. M Vertica or Razak city maybe more high density
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post Jul 14 2023, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Jul 14 2023, 08:06 AM)
density is not just looking at the number of units, more accurate is to look at the number of people staying.

if small units, the number of ppl is lower, like 1-2 person. 800-1000 sf is normally 4 person. M Vertica or Razak city maybe more high density
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True also but quite hard to find out how many ppl are staying. A bigger unit can also 1-2 person stay.
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post Jul 14 2023, 08:20 AM

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thanks for meaningful data. developers really stretching their profit margins.

d vine at central park damansara. 1400 units on 2.5 acres = 560 units per acre

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post Jul 14 2023, 09:00 AM

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Park, for future reference.
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post Jul 14 2023, 09:03 AM

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Very good informative thread
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post Jul 14 2023, 09:41 AM

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Wow, good sharing.
Those without data keep bashing OUG Parklane & RC...

To some1 above, nowadays condo, small unit not neccesarily 1-2 pax, small unit in good location will be partitioned, so to the end same dense

Should also make a data on the similar plot of land instead of the project itself, i.e. projects using the ONLY one same road entrance or one way road, since these will also add up the densesity of the same road flow
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post Jul 14 2023, 10:27 AM

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If I have the data, I am planning to also compile a list of lowest density condo. There is one old condo, GCB Court. 180 units, 4 acres which means 45 units per acre. Such a big contrast compared with Astrum Ampang.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve2 @ Jul 14 2023, 10:27 AM)
If I have the data, I am planning to also compile a list of lowest density condo. There is one old condo, GCB Court. 180 units, 4 acres which means 45 units per acre. Such a big contrast compared with Astrum Ampang.
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Desa Bistari, Damansara Heights, 3 floors and a total of 42 units.
quite aged tho'
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post Jul 14 2023, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve2 @ Jul 14 2023, 10:27 AM)
If I have the data, I am planning to also compile a list of lowest density condo. There is one old condo, GCB Court. 180 units, 4 acres which means 45 units per acre. Such a big contrast compared with Astrum Ampang.
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Lowest density condo is called as landed or townhouse tongue.gif
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post Jul 14 2023, 10:43 AM

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The D'series by Exsim @ Damansara Perdana.

Phase 1 (D'Quince) = 3.66acre with 1,310 units (358 units/acre)
Phase 2 (D'Vervain) = 2.78acre with 1,066 units (383 units/acre)
Phase 3 (D'Cosmos) = 2.03acre with 402 units (197 units/acre)
Phase 4 (D'Erica) = 3.01acre with 1,143 units (380 units/acre)
Phase 5 (D'Clover) = 3.27acre with 593 units (181 units/acre)
Phase 5 (D'Vine)RSKU = 2.54acre with 1,400 units (552 units/acre)
Phase 6 (D'Terra) = 3.74acre with 767 units (205 units/acre)
Phase 7 (D'Tessera) = 3.67acre with 671 units (183 units/acre)

And seems like the township is yet to be fully developed.. meaning they got future launches.. The entire township is 65 acre... Considered high dense?
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post Jul 14 2023, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(bigbang90 @ Jul 14 2023, 08:20 AM)
thanks for meaningful data. developers really stretching their profit margins.

d vine at central park damansara. 1400 units on 2.5 acres = 560 units per acre
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Property agent will show the beautiful side of the projects (example 70 storey, cooling, nice view). The higher the condo, the higher the density. Developer can build more units. The other con is parking. 20 floors of car park?

Another example is the facility. Property agent will tell you that this property got 70 facilities. Very good. What buyers might not know is the more facilities, the higher maintenance you need to pay later. First few years still ok. Facilities are still new and in good condition. Nightmares will come after 5 years when all those 70 facilities become koyak and old. To fix or change it, $$$ which is from the maintenance.
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post Jul 14 2023, 11:07 AM

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The lowest density condo in new kv development is Kaia Heights. 924 on 19.24acres.
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post Jul 14 2023, 12:38 PM

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TS, maybe can also include a "reference" range of what maybe considered as "normal/acceptable/comfortable" density?

it would be great if we also have data for the affordable housing series
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:01 PM

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Astrum because small unit size. So number of units also more. Number of units not the correct method to judge.

It doesn’t matter actually what is your data at the first post here. Only matter is when people look at the project, automatic mindset is a high density project. Projects that suffer being label as Hong Kong Malaysia is:

1. M Vertica
2. Razak City
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(IWannAAR @ Jul 14 2023, 12:38 PM)
TS, maybe can also include a "reference" range of what maybe considered as "normal/acceptable/comfortable" density?

it would be great if we also have data for the affordable housing series
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I don't have the data for all the properties. If I have, I can generate a statistic to get the average density range.

Usually those high density new property will be at the prime/hot areas.

This also means that if you are looking for medium / lower density property, it has to be further away from those prime/hot areas. Because those land are cheaper , developer can afford to build and sell lesser unit in a bigger land (lower density).

My post here is to create awareness to new buyer to also look into this density factory while searching for property besides other factors.
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:15 PM

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Based on what others suggested, I think one of the KPI we can look at is

Number of Bedrooms per Acre.

This will give us a better picture whether is the projects really high dense in terms of population.

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post Jul 14 2023, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(C_ST @ Jul 14 2023, 09:41 AM)
Wow, good sharing.
Those without data keep bashing OUG Parklane & RC...

To some1 above, nowadays condo, small unit not neccesarily 1-2 pax, small unit in good location will be partitioned, so to the end same dense

Should also make a data on the similar plot of land instead of the project itself, i.e. projects using the ONLY one same road entrance or one way road, since these will also add up the densesity of the same road flow
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Haha, i used to say OUG Parklane was crazy high dense. That was i bought another condo nearby. Now the density is crazy for TOD developments! So my advise now to newbie investors, don't buy high rise for capital appreciation - that is gone, however to buy for rental will also be affected by the sheer number of affordable high rise units being pumped out. Buy only for own stay!
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post Jul 14 2023, 01:38 PM

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