if can easy job and decent pay, enough to spend, i better stay there. go out work hard hard burn liver and sacrifice health and happiness just because of hungry money, no need la.

Just live a balance life enough

I just fired an executive earlier while adopting the no payslip theory. Just experiences.

UNCLE WAS 47 year old .

1) told me he was retrenched from a famous bank earlier in his life.
2) sit on a pool of money and decided to take care of his kids
3) Comes with ample experience- was a team leader in earlier job.
4) no pay slip as it was years ago
5) seems well spoken and looks decent .

Ok la - what the heck just do it- i hire him kasi 10 k basic as starting.

Then my nightmare starts

1)He is the oldest in my team- can’t lead my other members instead poison them- open separate whatsapp group & create politics
2) stubborn and insist on his own way of doing things but cant be measured with end results
3) always ponteng work & inefficient in driving things up
4) doesn’t know how to kiss ass- ya i know that is not necessary but we need this in corporate- he needs to respect the chair and act accordingly.
5) bloody fucking smart and loves to debate on his old way of doing things -doesn’t work as it too slow.


Everything we do nowdays required speed and efficiency & RESULTS.

I pay that cibai 10k and he says i am too hard and too fast to judge him after 6 months- need more time maybe 1 year to GROOM HIM.

WTF BRO- i hired A SUPPOSEDLY EXPERIENCE GUY.

NOT A FRESH GRADUATE.

needless to say i trap him and fire his ass- HR WANTED TO EXTEND HIM DUE TO MERCY - NAH - i will just gull blown exposed him and fire.

Lesson learned-

I know i cannot judge everything or everyone via the same way and all is diff.

But i cant take the risk anymore. I need proven data and CAPABILITY- i need it to be factual and CONLANFIRM sure my next guy can do it. So i am shame to say i revert to the good old recommendations and payslip hiring .

Just my 2 cents of life experiences

That is very subjective, what amount is enough?

Can you define "enough to spend"?

Are you thinking from a 5k per capita mindset or /2 /3 /4 when you have a partner and/or kids?

What happens if your house loan increase?

What happens if you need new tyre suddenly?

What happens if roof leaking?

What happens if recession hit bolehland?

Technically can ah.. in 2008 already got such job

This post has been edited by ceo684: Jul 3 2023, 10:27 AM

bro... in my place here, many many are just earning 1.5k only. And both couple work. Maybe wifey salary higher, or maybe husband salary higher. But also around 2.5k only. It's majority. So, husband 1.5k, wife 2.5k. We all survived.

Your 5k is not enough maybe is at your place. If 5k in my place, can sit kopitiam brag like boss already

This post has been edited by hellothere131495: Jul 3 2023, 10:27 AM

A million of them in sinkapore.... This means 1 million over 10K.

no payslip is a redtape man, it's like banging a girl with no condom with other guys

I'm not sure hiring people outside of the field is a right idea, beginner or entry role can give chance lah
management or leadership role doesn't need ALOT of technical skill, but langsung no skill is a gone case from my experience, won't be able to fit into the company culture that's a start

yea, i think 10k is definitely doable la

unless you are blue collar workers, that one i got nothing to say

but for a skilled worker or office worker or white collar worker, as long as got degree or even a diploma, 10k is definitely achievable

dont say for IT la, IT now come in minimum also 3.5k d, in 7 years confirm can get 10k, unless you really suck. the bottom of the bottom shitty tier

even factory workers these days without degree can get other certifications, then can jump up the pay too

Ei itu diff.. girl got wash with dettol - just roll dices when fucking anyway.

Like licking the same spoon everyone did in ikea kan.

Thats how i lie to myself.

Ei itu diff.. girl got wash with dettol - just roll dices when fucking anyway.

Like licking the same spoon everyone did in ikea kan.

Thats how i lie to myself.

comparatively yes

same thing as making 5k in malaysia vs making 5k in singapore

instead of complaining small towns/ rural areas giving peanut pays, you can always find a way to work at kl/selangor/penang/jb. more stress and more spending yes, but isn't that why you are paid more to begin with?

i had my accounting degree and some of my mates ended up at areas like ipoh where starting pay is rm2k lol. and i also have some friends getting paid rm3k as a freshie in KL firms. both former and latter are Perak-ians just that those that came to KL had a better idea of career growth and progression.

as for me, i gave up joining corporate since the 1st day of graduating and make around 8-10k monthly within my first year in sales field. no regrets even though it is a tough job with a lot of uncertainties.