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post Jun 30 2023, 12:09 AM, updated 6 months ago

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Exact location of Hospital Sultanah Aminah 2 (HSA 2) in Skudai

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Finally !!!


On a related matter, Ling said the Health Ministry would forward the working paper for Hospital Sultanah Aminah 2 (HSA 2) to the public-private partnership unit (UKAS) before submitting it to the Cabinet.

He said this step was necessary for the Federal government to proceed with the construction of HSA 2 in Skudai,Johor Bahru.



"Previously, the land issue, site identification, and preliminary works for HSA 2 have been completed.


HSA 2 will be built on a 28.33ha (70 acres) land provided by the Defence Ministry from a 202.34ha site, making it the largest hospital in Johor.

"Several technical workshops and discussions on the hospital’s requirements have also been conducted to avoid any overlap,” he said.

Ling has stated that the construction of HSA 2 is expected to help ease congestion at Johor Baru’s two existing hospitals —

Hospital Sultanah Aminah (HSA) and Hospital Sultan Ismail (HSI).

The Johor government has designated HSA 2 as a state priority project.






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Near this place

TL Gemilang Hardware & Timber Sdn Bhd

PTD 63432,
Jalan Sejahtera 1,
Taman Desa Skudai,
81300 Skudai,
Johor Darul Ta'zim

The MBIP council member already mentioned that two more lanes will be built.

I believe this new hospital will have multiple roads connecting to other nearby big residential areas like Taman Mutiara Rini....

As you can see, there is a large forest behind or on either side of the hospital area.

So, I’m sure many roads will be built to provide better access to the hospital.

Otherwise, ambulances might get stuck in traffic jams.





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Taman Mutiara Rini,
Taman Pulai Utama,
Taman Pulai Flora,
Taman Universiti,




Taman Sri Skudai,
Taman Sri Puteri
Taman Ungku Tun Aminah,
Taman Skudai Baru,



Taman Sutera Utama,
Taman Selesa Jaya,


Taman Impian Emas,
Taman Setia Tropika,


Taman Sri Orkid
Taman Nusa Bestari,
Taman Bukit Indah,
Kangkar Pulai
Lima Kedai,
Galang Patah,

Taman Mutiara Bestari (KSL)
Taman Tiara Indah (Mah Sing),
Taman Mutiara Maju, (Tasek Maju)

Taman Nusa Sentral,
Taman Nusa Perintis,






Health Ministry in talks to procure land for new hospital, Johor state assembly hears

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https://johor.sinchew.com.my/20201101/4%E5%...B0%B4%E7%81%BE/



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ISKANDAR PUTERI: Discussion is ongoing between the Health Ministry and the Defence Ministry with regard to a piece of land in Skudai where the proposed Hospital Sultanah Aminah 2 (HSA 2) is expected to be built.

State health and unity committee chairman Ling Tian Soon said that this was because the land that had been identified as a suitable location for the hospital was owned by the Defence Ministry.

"Recently, we (the state government) met with the Prime Minister (Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim) and this was among issues that we highlighted to him.

"We faced some difficulties with regard to the land matter previously and have asked the Health Ministry to carry out discussions with the land owner (Defence Ministry). Talks are currently ongoing between the two ministries.

"Once the land matter has been resolved, we can proceed to apply to get an allocation for the construction of the hospital," he said in a press conference after the state assembly sitting here.

Ling said this when asked about the progress of the plan for the construction of HSA 2, which was previously proposed to be built in Kempas.

In August last year, former health minister Khairy Jamaluddin said that the new hospital was expected to reduce the load at the two main hospitals in Johor Baru, Hospital Sultanah Aminah (HSA) and Hospital Sultan Ismail (HSI).


Jalan Persiaran Mutiara Emas Utama
Taman Mount Austin
81000 Johor Bharu
Johor

Hospital Sultan Ismail with an area of 50 acres has a 6 storey clinical block, 10-storey ward block and residential quarters.



Hospital Sultan Ismail is equipped with 22 wards, 18 operating theater, including five theater for ‘day care’ services, 2 theater in the Emergency Department. The hospital is equipped with 704 beds. There are 4 Class A Wards and 18 Class Two and Three Wards.


In addition, a total of 88 beds are provided in the Intensive Care Unit (ICU), Coronary Care Unit (CCU), Neonatal ICU (NICU), Burns Unit and High Dependency Ward specifically for intensive treatment.


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On a separate matter, Ling said that the two wards in HSI that had been closed since the Covid-19 pandemic had reopened since Wednesday (June 14).

He said that the two wards, which could accommodate a maximum of 54 beds each once, were now operating with 20 beds each for the time being.

"The two wards were forced to close temporarily because of a lack of manpower. The Health Ministry has recently deployed a total of 35 nurses to Johor, who are all being posted to HSI.

"This allowed the hospital to reopen the two wards. As a start, each ward will have 20 beds as the new nurses will need time to get used to the system in the hospital. The wards will operate fully in stages," he said.






Health Ministry in talks to procure land for new hospital, Johor state assembly hears





1.488955,103.615564







I remember already.

SHOULD BE BESIDE Kampung Poh Chee Leng


https://johor.chinapress.com.my/20230705/%E...BF%BB%E6%96%B0/



500 acres Kementerian Pertahanan land(英亩)

He request 100 acres land



28.33 ha = 70 acres


https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...ltanah-aminah-2



Confirm at Kampung Poh Chee Leng !!!


https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...ltanah-aminah-2


The construction of HSA 2 has long been discussed to meet the increasing demand for medical needs from some two million people in the city and its surrounding areas.





Currently, the two hospitals here – Hospital Sultanah Aminah (HSA) ,johor bahru and Hospital Sultan Ismail (Taman Johor Jaya)– are operating at 90% of capacity with HSA being the second-busiest public hospital in the country after Hospital Kuala Lumpur.



Hospital Sultan Ismail with an area of 50 acres

has a 6 storey clinical block,

10-storey ward block

and residential quarters.

Staff hostel ????



Hospital Sultan Ismail is equipped with 22 wards, 18 operating theater, including five theater for ‘day care’ services, 2 theater in the Emergency Department. The hospital is equipped with 704 beds. There are 4 Class A Wards and 18 Class Two and Three Wards.


In addition, a total of 88 beds are provided in the Intensive Care Unit (ICU), Coronary Care Unit (CCU), Neonatal ICU (NICU), Burns Unit and High Dependency Ward specifically for intensive treatment.


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just walk in to defence ministry office & ask them which location is their land at skudai area. settle.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jun 30 2023, 12:09 AM)
Health Ministry in talks to procure land for new hospital, Johor state assembly hears

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ISKANDAR PUTERI: Discussion is ongoing between the Health Ministry and the Defence Ministry with regard to a piece of land in Skudai where the proposed Hospital Sultanah Aminah 2 (HSA 2) is expected to be built.

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plouffle datang lagi dgn wall of text/jpegs dia...

BTW this land is supposedly the army camp that was supposed to be built some 20 years ago.

lim kit siang always keep reminding the preevious govts. about this issue (the unbuilt army camp that was supposed to replace the old majidee camp, now majidee camp become midvalley JB).

the land is just after taman nesa and before the mutiara rini precinct 1 if you use the old gelang patah road on the way to the JDT stadium.

also bordering taman desa skudai on the other side.

who said skudai don't have land?

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2023, 01:12 AM)
plouffle datang lagi dgn wall of text/jpegs dia...

BTW this land is supposedly the army camp that was supposed to be built some 20 years ago.

lim kit siang always keep reminding the preevious govts. about this issue (the unbuilt army camp that was supposed to replace the old majidee camp, now majidee camp become midvalley JB).

the land is just after taman nesa and before the mutiara rini precinct 1 if you use the old gelang patah road on the way to the JDT stadium.

also bordering taman desa skudai on the other side.

who said skudai don't have land?

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post Jun 30 2023, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2023, 01:12 AM)
plouffle datang lagi dgn wall of text/jpegs dia...

BTW this land is supposedly the army camp that was supposed to be built some 20 years ago.

lim kit siang always keep reminding the preevious govts. about this issue (the unbuilt army camp that was supposed to replace the old majidee camp, now majidee camp become midvalley JB).

the land is just after taman nesa and before the mutiara rini precinct 1 if you use the old gelang patah road on the way to the JDT stadium.

also bordering taman desa skudai on the other side.

who said skudai don't have land?

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is it opposite taman harmoni 慈济

1 & 3 & 5 & 7 Jalan Jaguh 1,
Taman Harmoni 2,
81300 Skudai.



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QUOTE(Jazted @ Jun 30 2023, 01:23 AM)
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thanks



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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jun 30 2023, 01:25 AM)
thanks
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by the way TS are you medical staff?
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QUOTE(Jazted @ Jun 30 2023, 01:23 AM)
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yes.

now i recall the name taman harmoni.

a few times a year some army ppl will come and visit this site to see if it has been encroached or not.
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2023, 01:31 AM)
yes.

now i recall the name taman harmoni.

a few times a year some army ppl will come and visit this site to see if it has been encroached or not.
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Is there a signboard stating that this is army land?


Do you know how many acres this land covers?

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QUOTE(Jazted @ Jun 30 2023, 01:30 AM)
by the way TS are you medical staff?
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no



why?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jun 30 2023, 01:37 AM)
no
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well...usually it will be the medical interest in the location, since they might station there..

if it closer to home then good.
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2023, 01:31 AM)
yes.

now i recall the name taman harmoni.

a few times a year some army ppl will come and visit this site to see if it has been encroached or not.
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good to know they have do site visit.

Got hear near the area is famous for the nasi ambeng. Havent try it yet.
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QUOTE(Jazted @ Jun 30 2023, 01:45 AM)
good to know they have do site visit.

Got hear near the area is famous for the nasi ambeng. Havent try it yet.
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I remember already.

SHOULD BE BESIDE Kampung Poh Chee Leng


https://www.sinchew.com.my/20080429/%E5%86%...8D%B1%E6%9C%BA/




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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2023, 01:12 AM)
who said skudai don't have land?
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Want to see unused land in skudai? Go in UTM / nearby Taman U
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The govt shud improve the existing hospital. It's a very horrible place, building & staff wise.
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die die must name "#2"?

later will sure happen:- "nak pergi Hospital Sultanah Aminah" but ended up at wrong instance.

give another name lah. why need to create future problem that can be avoided upfront?

inb4 Hospital Tun Mahathir - in Johor 😵
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 30 2023, 06:41 AM)
Want to see unused land in skudai? Go in UTM / nearby Taman U
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who owned the land?

near pulai springs?
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jun 30 2023, 06:44 AM)
The govt shud improve the existing hospital. It's a  very horrible place, building & staff wise.
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the lights are very dark and old


but it is very strong building.


built by british malaya government era
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the lights are very dark and old
but it is very strong building.
built by british malaya government era
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The staff there were very adamant on cutting my wife's mother's infected diabetic foot that was responding well to treatment. She was brought to a wound clinic where they managed to slowly save the foot.
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The staff there were very adamant on cutting my wife's mother's infected diabetic foot that was responding well to treatment. She was brought to a wound clinic where they managed to slowly save the foot.
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which year?
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State only know how to complain.. provide free land to MOH la dunggu.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jun 30 2023, 12:09 AM)
Health Ministry in talks to procure land for new hospital, Johor state assembly hears

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https://johor.sinchew.com.my/20201101/4%E5%...B0%B4%E7%81%BE/
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ISKANDAR PUTERI: Discussion is ongoing between the Health Ministry and the Defence Ministry with regard to a piece of land in Skudai where the proposed Hospital Sultanah Aminah 2 (HSA 2) is expected to be built.

State health and unity committee chairman Ling Tian Soon said that this was because the land that had been identified as a suitable location for the hospital was owned by the Defence Ministry.

"Recently, we (the state government) met with the Prime Minister (Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim) and this was among issues that we highlighted to him.

"We faced some difficulties with regard to the land matter previously and have asked the Health Ministry to carry out discussions with the land owner (Defence Ministry). Talks are currently ongoing between the two ministries.

"Once the land matter has been resolved, we can proceed to apply to get an allocation for the construction of the hospital," he said in a press conference after the state assembly sitting here.

Ling said this when asked about the progress of the plan for the construction of HSA 2, which was previously proposed to be built in Kempas.

In August last year, former health minister Khairy Jamaluddin said that the new hospital was expected to reduce the load at the two main hospitals in Johor Baru, Hospital Sultanah Aminah (HSA) and Hospital Sultan Ismail (HSI).
Jalan Persiaran Mutiara Emas Utama
Taman Mount Austin
81000 Johor Bharu
Johor

Hospital Sultan Ismail with an area of 50 acres has a 6 storey clinical block, 10-storey ward block and residential quarters.
Hospital Sultan Ismail is equipped with 22 wards, 18 operating theater, including five theater for ‘day care’ services, 2 theater in the Emergency Department. The hospital is equipped with 704 beds. There are 4 Class A Wards and 18 Class Two and Three Wards.
In addition, a total of 88 beds are provided in the Intensive Care Unit (ICU), Coronary Care Unit (CCU), Neonatal ICU (NICU), Burns Unit and High Dependency Ward specifically for intensive treatment.
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On a separate matter, Ling said that the two wards in HSI that had been closed since the Covid-19 pandemic had reopened since Wednesday (June 14).

He said that the two wards, which could accommodate a maximum of 54 beds each once, were now operating with 20 beds each for the time being.

"The two wards were forced to close temporarily because of a lack of manpower. The Health Ministry has recently deployed a total of 35 nurses to Johor, who are all being posted to HSI.

"This allowed the hospital to reopen the two wards. As a start, each ward will have 20 beds as the new nurses will need time to get used to the system in the hospital. The wards will operate fully in stages," he said.
Health Ministry in talks to procure land for new hospital, Johor state assembly hears
1.488955,103.615564

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SHOULD BE BESIDE Kampung Poh Chee Leng

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.488955...GG2BZzVsmKAiFxA
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So which one is which????

Kempas Or Skudai??

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Wonder how many years haha. Rmb shah alam hosp kena sub sub sub con dono how many years only can complete. With this kinda political instability summore
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jun 30 2023, 09:29 PM)
which year?
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A couple of weeks back.
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QUOTE(fadzly @ Jun 30 2023, 10:56 PM)
So which one is which????

Kempas Or Skudai??
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skudai
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 30 2023, 06:41 AM)
Want to see unused land in skudai? Go in UTM / nearby Taman U
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some of it are govt. reserve land and/or unused UTM land.

UTM land is quite big. some are still filled with palm trees
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jul 1 2023, 12:42 AM)
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Then its good sctually. I recommend skudai kiri. Next to KK tampoi. The stingan there actually KKM lands. Kempas got so many traffic lights. Traffic jam summore. I doubt thats a good place to build a hospital.
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QUOTE(ahter @ Jun 30 2023, 10:16 PM)
State only know how to complain.. provide free land to MOH la dunggu.
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https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...e-project/88777



2023 start construction
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QUOTE(fadzly @ Jul 1 2023, 07:52 AM)
Then its good sctually. I recommend skudai kiri. Next to KK tampoi. The stingan there actually KKM lands. Kempas got so many traffic lights. Traffic jam summore. I doubt thats a good place to build a hospital.
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KK Tampoi, JKR 4969,
Batu 5 Jalan Skudai,
81200, Johor Bahru, Johor


This one also traffic jam


Jalan skudai jam



KLINIK KESIHATAN IBU & ANAK

1. KKIA Jalan Abd Samad

KKIA Jalan Abd Samad, Jalan Abdul Samad, Johor Bharu, Johor, 81800, Johor Bahru, Johor


This one so special


Can bersalin?

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after finish name it as hospital UTM. Then UTM can add in more course make more $$$$
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QUOTE(vexus @ Sep 3 2023, 10:43 PM)
after finish name it as hospital UTM. Then UTM can add in more course make more $$$$
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Now place is at near taman harmoni

Not taman universiti
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jun 30 2023, 06:44 AM)
The govt shud improve the existing hospital. It's a  very horrible place, building & staff wise.
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Today PM visit


And announce big news!!!!!


https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...e-project/88777

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Jul 1 2023, 07:52 AM)
Then its good sctually. I recommend skudai kiri. Next to KK tampoi. The stingan there actually KKM lands. Kempas got so many traffic lights. Traffic jam summore. I doubt thats a good place to build a hospital.
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Newspaper said already approved HSA 2.


https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...ltanah-aminah-2


Near Taman Harmoni 2


Ling Tian Soon (Chinese: 林添順) , or commonly known as Ah Soon, is a Malaysian politician who has served as Member of the Johor State Executive Council (EXCO) in the Barisan Nasional (BN) state administration under Menteri Besar Onn Hafiz Ghazi and Member of the Johor State Legislative Assembly (MLA) for Yong Peng since March 2022.


He is a member of the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA), a component party of the BN coalition.


He is the Organising Secretary of MCA, Youth Chief of MCA of Johor, Division Chief of Ayer Hitam of MCA.


He is one of the only two Johor EXCO members of Chinese ethnicity and of MCA along with Lee Ting Han.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 19 2023, 03:02 AM)
Newspaper said already approved HSA 2.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...ltanah-aminah-2
Near Taman Harmoni 2
Ling Tian Soon (Chinese: 林添順) , or commonly known as Ah Soon, is a Malaysian politician who has served as Member of the Johor State Executive Council (EXCO) in the Barisan Nasional (BN) state administration under Menteri Besar Onn Hafiz Ghazi and Member of the Johor State Legislative Assembly (MLA) for Yong Peng since March 2022.
He is a member of the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA), a component party of the BN coalition.
He is the Organising Secretary of MCA, Youth Chief of MCA of Johor, Division Chief of Ayer Hitam of MCA.
He is one of the only two Johor EXCO members of Chinese ethnicity and of MCA along with Lee Ting Han.
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Good news
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Good news
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House price near Hospital will up or drop?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 19 2023, 03:02 AM)
Newspaper said already approved HSA 2.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023...ltanah-aminah-2
Near Taman Harmoni 2
Ling Tian Soon (Chinese: 林添順) , or commonly known as Ah Soon, is a Malaysian politician who has served as Member of the Johor State Executive Council (EXCO) in the Barisan Nasional (BN) state administration under Menteri Besar Onn Hafiz Ghazi and Member of the Johor State Legislative Assembly (MLA) for Yong Peng since March 2022.
He is a member of the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA), a component party of the BN coalition.
He is the Organising Secretary of MCA, Youth Chief of MCA of Johor, Division Chief of Ayer Hitam of MCA.
He is one of the only two Johor EXCO members of Chinese ethnicity and of MCA along with Lee Ting Han.
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agree if it in skudai. but i agree more if they put at Gelang Patah/ bukit indah area.

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QUOTE(fadzly @ Dec 19 2023, 09:57 AM)
agree if it in skudai. but i agree more if they put at Gelang Patah/ bukit indah area.
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Because government have this land at skudai since 20 years ago at least.



It is a abandoned army camp.

Never construct completed
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House price near Hospital will up or drop?
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Up. Convenient for those looking for treatment. Also those Doctor will buy rent nearby.

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The prob:

Ministry of Defence also starting 2024 will tender the new army camp at that land. Kem Skudai. rm400mil++ already approved during last year budget to build the camp on this land. And another RM600mil++ expected to be approved in 2-3 years time for the Army Quarter's Housing.

The army camp & the hospital will share the same land. Mindef already set the portion for KKM. But KKM/state not agree with the portion that Mindef propose.

(New Minister & new Agong will be a big influnce on this decision later)

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 19 2023, 11:09 AM)
Because government have this land at skudai since 20 years ago at least.
It is a abandoned army camp.

Never construct completed
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The contractor failed to finished the project, started on year 2000. Abandon after 18% progress. 2018 finally Govt win the case at Federal Court and contractor need to pay rm200mil++ to govt for the failure. After that case settled, Mindef bid for budget to restart the project. Only this year budget finally it was approved.
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The prob:

Ministry of Defence also starting 2024 will tender the new army camp at that land. Kem Skudai. rm400mil++ already approved during last year budget to build the camp on this land. And another RM600mil++ expected to be approved in 2-3 years time for the Army Quarter's Housing.

The army camp & the hospital will share the same land. Mindef already set the portion for KKM. But KKM/state not agree with the portion that Mindef propose.

(New Minister & new Agong will be a big influnce on this decision later)
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Ministry of Defence also starting 2024 will tender the new army camp at that land. Kem Skudai. rm400mil++ already approved during last year budget to build the camp on this land. And another RM600mil++ expected to be approved in 2-3 years time for the Army Quarter's Housing.


May I know where is your source?

Budget 2024?
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The contractor failed to finished the project, started on year 2000. Abandon after 18% progress. 2018 finally Govt win the case at Federal Court and contractor need to pay rm200mil++ to govt for the failure. After that case settled, Mindef bid for budget to restart the project. Only this year budget finally it was approved.
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What is the contractor company name?
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What is the contractor company name?
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KCSB. Just search Kausar Consortium and you will find the details of the case.
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May I know where is your source?

Budget 2024?
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Yup, approved budget already. Now still on early pre-development stage within mindef and jkr as the project SO. Usually will take 8-12 months before officially tendered. Plus with this land issue with KKM some more. Expected this issue will delay the project.

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Yup, approved budget already. Now still on early pre-development stage within mindef and jkr as the project SO. Usually will take 8-12 months before officially tendered. Plus with this land issue with KKM some more. Expected this issue will delay the project.
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Now geran already transfer to KKM right?

KPM not own this land anymore...

Why so slow?
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Now geran already transfer to KKM right?

KPM not own this land anymore...

Why so slow?
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I dont really understand what do you mean by geran already transfer. That federal govt own land still under the name of Federal Land Commissioner (PTP) and until now still with status for military use.
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F**K! The taman intersection flyover going to be jam as f**k! Ask any skudai people about the exit in front of the old majlis building. Soo many que cutting sons of b*thces. Should have built at Iskandar Puteri aka the ghost town.
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QUOTE(evolance7 @ Dec 20 2023, 06:55 AM)
F**K! The taman intersection flyover going to be jam as f**k! Ask any skudai people about the exit in front of the old majlis building. Soo many que cutting sons of b*thces. Should have built at Iskandar Puteri aka the ghost town.
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After Skudai Parade, right?
Every day from 6 pm to 7 pm, it's usually like that.


The jam normally is beside the very old double-storey shophouse.My friend works at Taman Impian Emas and uses the Skudai road every day.




If they really want to build this new hospital in Kampung Poh Chee Leng area, later, this Skudai highway will likely have a U-turn (only for ambulances to use).

HSA danga bay also have a U-turn for ambulance.

And maybe later, the police station will also use it.




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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 19 2023, 11:09 AM)
Because government have this land at skudai since 20 years ago at least.
It is a abandoned army camp.

Never construct completed
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Nice. I think tun aminah people deserve it
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Nice. I think tun aminah people deserve it
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The surrounding area of Kampung Poh Chee Leng already experiences frequent traffic jams, especially near the old MBIP building (Skudai Parade Mall).


If a hospital is indeed built there, Jalan Skudai from 6 pm to 7 pm could experience traffic congestion similar to Kuala Lumpur's Bukit Bintang area.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 21 2023, 10:27 AM)
The surrounding area of Kampung Poh Chee Leng already experiences frequent traffic jams, especially near the old MBIP building (Skudai Parade Mall).
If a hospital is indeed built there, Jalan Skudai from 6 pm to 7 pm could experience traffic congestion similar to Kuala Lumpur's Bukit Bintang area.
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GG. We need MRR3 on top of Skudai flyover.
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The govt shud improve the existing hospital. It's a  very horrible place, building & staff wise.
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Same time now HSA 2 skudai is approved.


But later traffic jam one



Should change some road or build bridge
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GG. We need MRR3 on top of Skudai flyover.
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Middle ring bridge @ skudai
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jan 12 2024, 09:09 AM)
Same time now HSA 2 skudai is approved.
But later traffic jam one
Should change some road or build bridge
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The road in/out for the current one oso need to be improved.
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Why until now no progress?
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GG. We need MRR3 on top of Skudai flyover.
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News KSL condo at taman bukit gemilang....

Near new hospital ...

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...#entry109780718
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Should have built it near Sultan Ibrahim stadium which has lots of parking n can be accessed by Pontian, Kulai, Senai & BP residents. More efficient road network too as it is beside a 2nd link interchange. Land cost could be higher since it is private land.

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jun 30 2023, 06:44 AM)
The govt shud improve the existing hospital. It's a  very horrible place, building & staff wise.
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Almost 1 year....


The new hospital location not yet revealed and no start construction

Haiz
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 22 2024, 04:21 AM)
Should have built it near Sultan Ibrahim stadium which has lots of parking n can be accessed by Pontian, Kulai, Senai & BP residents. More efficient road network too as it is beside a 2nd link interchange. Land cost could be higher since it is private land.

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So you suggest hospital build near M Tiara project?

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5434457&hl=

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wow , but malaysia pacing not sure it can be completed in my lifetime
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So you suggest hospital build near M Tiara project?

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5434457&hl=
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Instead of the purple circle, orange circle area is near an existing interchange.

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Agree. Should be located near gelang patah so that people from Pontian can benefit it.
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QUOTE(fadzly @ May 24 2024, 09:47 PM)
Agree. Should be located near gelang patah so that people from Pontian can benefit it.
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Better built 1 hospital at pontian or pekan nanas also



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Better built 1 hospital at pontian or pekan nanas also
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already got Hospital Pontian.......

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already got Hospital Pontian.......
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But there aren't enough beds, right? They should consider an expansion.

I think HSA 2 could be built in the Setia Eco Garden area. There's a lot of land available there, and they could add plenty of parking spaces.


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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jun 30 2023, 12:09 AM)
Confirm at Kampung Poh Chee Leng  !!!
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why are you so excited bro?
you got land at kampung poh chee leng?
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2023, 01:12 AM)
plouffle datang lagi dgn wall of text/jpegs dia...

BTW this land is supposedly the army camp that was supposed to be built some 20 years ago.

lim kit siang always keep reminding the preevious govts. about this issue (the unbuilt army camp that was supposed to replace the old majidee camp, now majidee camp become midvalley JB).

the land is just after taman nesa and before the mutiara rini precinct 1 if you use the old gelang patah road on the way to the JDT stadium.

also bordering taman desa skudai on the other side.

who said skudai don't have land?

doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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If HSA 2 use this land ,M tiara and Mutiara Rini area will be jam.....
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If HSA 2 use this land ,M tiara and Mutiara Rini area will be jam.....
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well good thing they changed the plan.

they will now use the land near UTM instead IINM

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Want to see unused land in skudai? Go in UTM / nearby Taman U
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apparently they will build HSA 2 here instead as its nearer to main road (lebuhraya skudai) and also nearer access to plus highway.
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Nov 11 2024, 01:55 PM)
apparently they will build HSA 2 here instead as its nearer to main road (lebuhraya skudai) and also nearer access to plus highway.
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Near


TL Gemilang Hardware & Timber Sdn Bhd

PTD 63432,
Jalan Sejahtera 1,
Taman Desa Skudai,
81300 Skudai,
Johor Darul Ta'zim


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Taman Mutiara Rini,
Taman Universiti,
Taman Pulai Utama,
Taman Pulai Flora

Taman Sri Skudai,
Taman Sri Puteri
Taman Ungku Tun Aminah,
Taman Skudai Baru,
Taman Sutera Utama,
Taman Selesa Jaya,


Taman Impian Emas,
Taman Setia Tropika,


Taman Sri Orkid
Taman Nusa Bestari,
Taman Bukit Indah,
Kangkar Pulai
Lima Kedai,
Galang Patah,

Taman Mutiara Bestari (KSL)
Taman Tiara Indah (Mah Sing),
Taman Mutiara Maju, (Tasek Maju)

Taman Nusa Sentral,
Taman Nusa Perintis,

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QUOTE(Jazted @ Jun 30 2023, 01:23 AM)
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targeted here?
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Near


TL Gemilang Hardware & Timber Sdn Bhd

PTD 63432,
Jalan Sejahtera 1,
Taman Desa Skudai,
81300 Skudai,
Johor Darul Ta'zim


user posted image


Taman Mutiara Rini,
Taman Mutiara Bestari (KSL)
Taman Tiara Indah (Mah Sing),
Taman Mutiara Maju, (Tasek Maju)


Taman Universiti,
Taman Pulai Utama,
Taman Pulai Flora

Taman Sri Skudai,
Taman Sri Puteri
Taman Ungku Tun Aminah,
Taman Skudai Baru,
Taman Sutera Utama,
Taman Selesa Jaya,

Senai area........


Hospital Kulai also quite small


Should built another hospital for kulai also !!!!

Taman Impian Emas,
Taman Setia Tropika,


Taman Sri Orkid
Taman Nusa Bestari,
Taman Bukit Indah,
Kangkar Pulai
Lima Kedai,
Galang Patah,



Taman Nusa Sentral,
Taman Nusa Perintis,

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Blue circle area is better cos beside Pontian highway n no houses . The orange circle is near housing estate with narrow roads.

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 21 2025, 02:13 AM)
Blue circle area is better cos beside Pontian highway n no houses . The orange circle is near housing estate with narrow roads.

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The MBIP council member already mentioned that two more lanes will be built.

I believe this new hospital will have multiple roads connecting to other nearby big residential areas like Taman Mutiara Rini....

Taman Sri Skudai and Taman Sri Putri have had many years of struggling businesses, except for the duck restaurant.

Maybe this time, shop businesses will do well?


As you can see, there is a large forest behind or on either side of the hospital area.

So, I’m sure many roads will be built to provide better access to the hospital.

Otherwise, ambulances might get stuck in traffic jams.

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According to Google project should start in 2024.

HSA2 refers to the proposed Hospital Sultanah Aminah 2, a project aimed at alleviating congestion at the existing Sultanah Aminah Hospital in Johor Bahru, Malaysia, and potentially serving as a specialist hospital for Kulai and Pontian.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Purpose:
The HSA2 project aims to address the issue of overcrowding at the existing Sultanah Aminah Hospital (HSA) in Johor Bahru.
Location:
The proposed site for HSA2 is located near Skudai, with 70 acres of land provided by the Ministry of Defense.
Benefits:
Reduced Congestion: HSA2 is expected to significantly reduce the strain on the existing HSA, improving patient care and access.
Specialized Care: It is envisioned as a specialist hospital, potentially catering to patients from Kulai and Pontian who lack access to specialized facilities.
Status:
The project was included in the 2024 Budget, and the Johor state government hopes for its inclusion in the 2024 budget.
Initial Work:
Initial work for the construction of HSA2 has been approved and is underway.
Ministerial Involvement:
The Minister of Health, Dr. Zaliha Mustafa, presented the proposal for HSA2 to the Sultan of Johor.
Economic Impact:
The project is expected to boost the economy and improve the welfare of the people
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Want to see unused land in skudai? Go in UTM / nearby Taman U
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Yes. Now they will build there.

There is a big forest there.

Does it belong to the government?

Will Skudai have better prospects after the new hospital is built?

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The new hospital is known as Hospital Sultanah Aminah 2 (HSA 2) and is scheduled to begin construction in 2026.


It will be developed under a public-private partnership and will have a 1,500-bed capacity.



The project is set on a 28.33-hectare site (approximately 70 acres) that has been allocated by the Defence Ministry from its larger 202.34-hectare landholding (roughly 500 acres) in Skudai.



The forested area you mentioned is likely part of this government property.



With the development of HSA 2, Skudai is expected to experience significant growth due to improved healthcare access, new employment opportunities, and the attraction of related businesses, ultimately enhancing the area’s overall prospects.






Hospital Sultanah Aminah is situated in the urban area of Johor Bahru, nestled within a hilly region and facing the Tebrau Strait.

The hospital spans an area of 98.6 acres and was initially known as Hospital Besar Johor Bahru.

It is located just two kilometers from the center of Johor Bahru, on Jalan Persiaran Abu Bakar Sultan, directly overlooking the Tebrau Strait.



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Fuck. Macamlah Skudai tak cukup jam.
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Fuck. Macamlah Skudai tak cukup jam.
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The chosen location for the new government hospital in Skudai is a forest, and it is near Taman Universiti.



I hope they will build a huge multi-storey car park and a new public bus terminal beside the hospital as well (since the area is currently a large forest, they could make use of the land) for the vehicles of Malaysian workers who leave their cars at Taman Tun Aminah, Taman Bukit Indah, Taman Selesa Jaya, and Taman Nusa Bestari (or other Taman ) shoplot area to commute to Singapore.

Many shoplot owners say there is no business because the car parks outside the shoplots are always full, but not with customer parking.

Those who work in Singapore but live in JB, particularly in the Taman area, always park their cars there and take either a factory shuttle or public bus to JB Sentral and Singapore. The cars are parked outside the shoplots from 5 AM until 10 PM.

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Jun 30 2023, 07:22 AM)
die die must name "#2"?

later will sure happen:- "nak pergi Hospital Sultanah Aminah" but ended up at wrong instance.

give another name lah. why need to create future problem that can be avoided upfront?

inb4 Hospital Tun Mahathir - in Johor 😵
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I think it will be named Hospital Skudai because everyone knows it is located near Taman Universiti or UTM.




https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kampung+Poh...SoASAFQAw%3D%3D

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 21 2025, 01:58 AM)
Near
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PTD 63432,
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Taman Desa Skudai,
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nope. they decide not to build it here, it is still army camp reserve land
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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 21 2025, 02:13 AM)
Blue circle area is better cos beside Pontian highway n no houses . The orange circle is near housing estate with narrow roads.

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it's either this plot or the one opposite it.

both are federal land reserve, meant for UTM (kementerian pengajian tinggi) but can be easily converted to KKM ownership.

both also facing the skudai pontian highway and nearer to the impian emas interchange


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The MBIP council member already mentioned that two more lanes will be built.

I believe this new hospital will have multiple roads connecting to other nearby big residential areas like Taman Mutiara Rini....

Taman Sri Skudai and Taman Sri Putri have had many years of struggling businesses, except for the duck restaurant.

Maybe this time, shop businesses will do well?
As you can see, there is a large forest behind or on either side of the hospital area.

So, I’m sure many roads will be built to provide better access to the hospital.

Otherwise, ambulances might get stuck in traffic jams.
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new requirement is for the hospital to be located nearer to the main road (highway) and must not be inside a taman.

so the army reserve land is no longer suitable.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 22 2025, 02:58 AM)
I think it will be named Hospital Skudai because everyone knows it is located near Taman Universiti or UTM.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kampung+Poh...SoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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nope. name is still HSA2 unless something changes.

it wont be hospital skudai as skudai is just township.

if they wont use HSA name, it will probably be called hospital Iskandar puteri instead as iskandar puteri is the name of the bandar raya there.
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Can this hospital treat trauma patient and gun shot wounds patients?.

they would need more of these in future... seeing them becoming like Klang Darul Kulumdia.
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 23 2025, 02:11 AM)
nope. they decide not to build it here, it is still army camp reserve land
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new requirement is for the hospital to be located nearer to the main road (highway) and must not be inside a taman.

so the army reserve land is no longer suitable.




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An Ahli Majlis of MBIP (MCA Member ) Mr. LIM SOON HAI (倪顺海) just announced this Hospital Location last week on his Facebook.

How do you know if there are any new requirements?

So, did he announce something that has not yet been confirmed by Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia?


Last year, they wanted to build it near Kampung Poh Chee Leng (the old MBJBT building area).

Actually, it is the same piece of land, just in a different direction.

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 23 2025, 02:15 AM)
it's either this plot or the one opposite it.

both are federal land reserve, meant for UTM (kementerian pengajian tinggi) but can be easily converted to KKM ownership.

both also facing the skudai pontian highway and nearer to the impian emas interchange
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Wow UTM got so much land. If only they know how to monetised it n use the proceeds to replace their existing rundown buildings & facilities. They should make it convenient for students rather then looking beautiful n very sparse.
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Wow UTM got so much land. If only they know how to monetised it n use the proceeds to replace their existing rundown buildings & facilities. They should make it convenient for students rather then looking beautiful n very sparse.
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They should also build a new fire station beside the hospital.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 23 2025, 04:28 AM)
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An Ahli Majlis of MBIP (MCA Member ) Mr. LIM SOON HAI (倪顺海) just announced this Hospital Location last week on his Facebook.

How do you know if there are any new requirements?

So, did he announce something that has not yet been confirmed by Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia?
Last year, they wanted to build it near Kampung Poh Chee Leng (the old MBJBT building area).

Actually, it is the same piece of land, just in a different direction.
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that guy is just MBIP councilperson.

i got info straight from KKM insiders.

as you point out, he is lantikan MCA.

johor state govt. is technically not part of madani govt.

they are just allies for now.

in 2027, johor state elections will be up again, and BN will go solo again.

you think PH gonna help BN win again?

already PH has more parliamentarians from johor compared to BN.

i repeat, the requirement is that big hospital must be facing main road and not sandwiched between tamans like the current army land is.

the size you marked is just big enough for a kilinik kesihatan. not a full-fledged hospital.

btw just last week the health minister was in HSA (same day as the great flash flood).

believe what you want to believe
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 23 2025, 12:41 PM)
They should also build a new fire station beside the hospital.
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taman u already have fire station. so does kota iskandar. and kulai already has one.

so skudai/iskandar puteri already has 2-3 firestations within 30 mins of each other.

larkin is main for JB.

so next firestation will be in kempas or tampoi as these 2 places dont have fire station but is densely packed.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 23 2025, 07:08 AM)
Wow UTM got so much land. If only they know how to monetised it n use the proceeds to replace their existing rundown buildings & facilities. They should make it convenient for students rather then looking beautiful n very sparse.
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they are already renting out the kolej tun ghafar baba to some private college.

and kolej dato' onn is rented out to JDT academy.

both located near taman sri pulai.

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 26 2025, 12:42 AM)
that guy is just MBIP councilperson.

i got info straight from KKM insiders.

as you point out, he is lantikan MCA.

johor state govt. is technically not part of madani govt.

they are just allies for now.

in 2027, johor state elections will be up again, and BN will go solo again.

you think PH gonna help BN win again?

already PH has more parliamentarians from johor compared to BN.

i repeat, the requirement is that big hospital must be facing main road and not sandwiched between tamans like the current army land is.

the size you marked is just big enough for a kilinik kesihatan. not a full-fledged hospital.

btw just last week the health minister was in HSA (same day as the great flash flood).

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Better wait Menteri Besar announcement first....
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 26 2025, 12:56 AM)
they are already renting out the kolej tun ghafar baba to some private college.

and kolej dato' onn is rented out to JDT academy.

both located near taman sri pulai.
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But the returns r not sufficient for building maintenance what more new buildings to replace the old.
So when this land is acquired for HSA2, is UTM compensated based on market rate?

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they are already renting out the kolej tun ghafar baba to some private college.

and kolej dato' onn is rented out to JDT academy.

both located near taman sri pulai.
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this place is nice for hospital?






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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 26 2025, 12:47 AM)
taman u already have fire station. so does kota iskandar. and kulai already has one.

so skudai/iskandar puteri already has 2-3 firestations within 30 mins of each other.

larkin is main for JB.

so next firestation will be in kempas or tampoi as these 2 places dont have fire station but is densely packed.
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the other end of tampoi kan ada bomba? near pandan interchange
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Kenapa HSA2 instead of nama Sultan/Sultanah lain?
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 26 2025, 12:56 AM)
they are already renting out the kolej tun ghafar baba to some private college.

and kolej dato' onn is rented out to JDT academy.

both located near taman sri pulai.
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Any reason they rented out those student apartments at the back there? When I was in high school those places seemed to be fully occupied, too far from classes? not enough student intakes? or haunted?
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Mar 26 2025, 05:16 PM)
Kenapa HSA2 instead of nama Sultan/Sultanah lain?
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.astroawani...-513475%3famp=1



https://www.instantstreetview.com/@1.515135...WAN9S8UmXf8aGDA





Lets see what the actual name of Pasir Gudang Hospital will be first.

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I believe you more....
Politicians words........
Better wait Menteri Besar announcement first....
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even menteri besar has no real say, as hospital is under federal.

federal has land reserve in every state. technically they dont need state's approval to build anything on their land....

that is why during previous (nonPH rule), some state get more federal projects and some states are left to fend ofr themselves.

now with madani, it is more balanced...
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Mar 26 2025, 05:24 PM)
Any reason they rented out those student apartments at the back there? When I was in high school those places seemed to be fully occupied, too far from classes? not enough student intakes? or haunted?
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dunno about that.

i just lnow they rented it out bcos i used to send supplies there when it was still under UTM management.


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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 26 2025, 05:59 AM)
But the returns r not sufficient for building maintenance what more new buildings to replace the old.
So when this land is acquired for HSA2, is UTM compensated based on market rate?
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UTM is a govt. statutory board, they get annual allocation from govt. anyway.

and the land they sit on is federal land, but gazetted under their name.

govt. can always regazette any land for any purpose
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Want to see unused land in skudai? Go in UTM / nearby Taman U
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Do you know the Taman Sri Skudai jungle ?

The jungle is opposite Taman Desa Skudai


Who is the land owner?

The house prices there haven't increased as much as in Taman Tun Aminah or Taman Selesa Jaya, probably because it's a dead-end road — the area is blocked off by a big forest.

Lately, Taman Mutiara Rini is also getting quite jammed with traffic.

If a new road is built connecting Taman Mutiara Rini to the old MBJBT building in Skudai — using the jungle road through Taman Sri Putri — it could really improve accessibility.

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 28 2025, 12:41 AM)
UTM is a govt. statutory board, they get annual allocation from govt. anyway.

and the land they sit on is federal land, but gazetted under their name.

govt. can always regazette any land for any purpose
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Do you know the Taman Sri Skudai jungle ?



The jungle is opposite Taman Desa Skudai


Who is the land owner?

The house prices there haven't increased as much as in Taman Tun Aminah or Taman Selesa Jaya, probably because it's a dead-end road — the area is blocked off by a big forest.

Lately, Taman Mutiara Rini is also getting quite jammed with traffic.

If a new road is built connecting Taman Mutiara Rini to the old MBJBT building in Skudai — using the jungle road through Taman Sri Putri — it could really improve accessibility.

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Gud luck to Mutiara Rini people lol. Now also already jam like hell. Build hospital there confirm gg.

Lucky unker don't beli house there back in 2010.

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QUOTE(saiga @ Jun 26 2025, 07:26 PM)
Gud luck to Mutiara Rini people lol. Now also already jam like hell. Build hospital there confirm gg.

Lucky unker don't beli house there back in 2010.
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But if you had bought a house there in 2010, the price would have already increased by 100% by now.

So which taman house do you bought?

Do you know there are a big jungle between mutiara rini and taman sri skudai?

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why not build new hospital at medini area? no jam and so much land....
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Gud luck to Mutiara Rini people lol. Now also already jam like hell. Build hospital there confirm gg.

Lucky unker don't beli house there back in 2010.
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why is it jammed?

that area sounds abit low m40 to high b40-ish...


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i tot now got lack of doctors

u see the garment very funny one

when got influx of doctors, they dunwan build hospital

then when doctor numbers come down they wanna build

then this makes the work more stressful

and the vicious cycle of people quitting continues

sohai garment lol
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why is it jammed?

that area sounds  abit low m40 to high b40-ish...
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There are many double storey house

Gated and guarded

Now even old house at there can sell RM800k
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The government doesn't have the funds. This project will not be easy to kick-start. With 1,800 beds and the Private Finance Initiative (PFI) approach — build and lease back to the government — the cost is significant. Based on the benchmark of RM 1.5 million per bed (excluding equipment, which will be provided by the tenant/Ministry of Health), the total project value comes to:

RM 1.5 million × 1,500 beds = RM 2.25 billion

How many companies have the financial capacity to secure such large-scale financing? Even if split into few phases - assume 3 phases. 1 phase 1/3 = RM 750 mil.

This capital must be fully funded upfront. Only after completion can you slowly bill the government over time. It may look like a lucrative project, but the upfront financial risk is substantial. How long will the PFI terms take to recoup the initial capital?

If anything goes wrong, the company could go from hero to zero — straight into bankruptcy. I doubt many players are willing to participate once they understand the risks associated with PFI.



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The government doesn't have the funds. This project will not be easy to kick-start. With 1,800 beds and the Private Finance Initiative (PFI) approach — build and lease back to the government — the cost is significant. Based on the benchmark of RM 1.5 million per bed (excluding equipment, which will be provided by the tenant/Ministry of Health), the total project value comes to:

RM 1.5 million × 1,500 beds = RM 2.25 billion

How many companies have the financial capacity to secure such large-scale financing? Even if split into few phases - assume 3 phases. 1 phase 1/3 = RM 750 mil.

This capital must be fully funded upfront. Only after completion can you slowly bill the government over time. It may look like a lucrative project, but the upfront financial risk is substantial. How long will the PFI terms take to recoup the initial capital?

If anything goes wrong, the company could go from hero to zero — straight into bankruptcy. I doubt many players are willing to participate once they understand the risks associated with PFI.
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Why governement cannot just open tender and provide a RM 2.25 billion to build this hospital?


Pasir Gudang also completed 1 mah
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Why governement cannot just open tender and provide a RM 2.25 billion to build this hospital?
Pasir Gudang also completed 1 mah
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Sounds easy, but it’s not that easy.

PFI stands for Private Finance Initiative, which means the private sector funds the project entirely. If you take on the project, you must finance it yourself — the government will not give you any upfront funding.

In other words, you build the project using your own capital. If anything goes wrong — any "wintermelon taufu" mishap — the private sector bears the full risk.

Even if the project progresses or completes, you won’t receive immediate payment from the government. You have to absorb the construction cost and financing burden all the way to the end.

Only after the project is completed will the government lease the building back from you. Let’s say you spend RM 750 million upfront — you can then slowly bill the government over time. But how long will that take? You might still be waiting to recover your capital even after you’re in the grave.

Not many companies are willing to take that kind of risk. So, don’t be naïve in thinking every "cake" comes without risk.

Pasir Gudang was different. That one was Design & Built, government paid to the builder. Not PFI.

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Sounds easy, but it’s not that easy.

PFI stands for Private Finance Initiative, which means the private sector funds the project entirely. If you take on the project, you must finance it yourself — the government will not give you any upfront funding.

In other words, you build the project using your own capital. If anything goes wrong — any "wintermelon taufu" mishap — the private sector bears the full risk.

Even if the project progresses or completes, you won’t receive immediate payment from the government. You have to absorb the construction cost and financing burden all the way to the end.

Only after the project is completed will the government lease the building back from you. Let’s say you spend RM 750 million upfront — you can then slowly bill the government over time. But how long will that take? You might still be waiting to recover your capital even after you’re in the grave.

Not many companies are willing to take that kind of risk. So, don’t be naïve in thinking every "cake" comes without risk.

Pasir Gudang was different. That one was Design & Built, government paid to the builder. Not PFI.
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Thanks for explanation...

No wonder this skudai hospital so long never update again


Why they do this way?


Government so rich what
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jun 26 2025, 07:31 PM)
But if you had bought a house there in 2010, the price would have already increased by 100% by now.

So which taman house do you bought?

Do you know there are a big jungle between mutiara rini and taman sri skudai?
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Bought a house at Impian Height, in Taman Impian Emas.

I knew about the jungle since I rent a house in Mutiara Rini for 3 years from 2007 to 2010.
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There are many double storey house

Gated and guarded

Now even old house at there can sell RM800k
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Not to mention soo many traffic light lol.
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why is it jammed?

that area sounds  abit low m40 to high b40-ish...
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You can refer to plouffle0789's anwers on why it jammed.

About that low m40 to high b40ish you absolutely right.
Most of the people I knew during my renting time took 35-40 years loan.

Whenever new project launched, people will start queue at Mutiara Rini sales office 1 day earlier. Crazy....
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QUOTE(saiga @ Jun 26 2025, 09:02 PM)
Bought a house at Impian Height, in Taman Impian Emas.

I knew about the jungle since I rent a house in Mutiara Rini for 3 years from 2007 to 2010.
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Now skudai parade mall gonna redevelop


Taman impian emas alwayd traffic jam before mbjbt building road
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QUOTE(saiga @ Jun 26 2025, 09:09 PM)
You can refer to plouffle0789's anwers on why it jammed.

About that low m40 to high b40ish you absolutely right.
Most of the people I knew during my renting time took 35-40 years loan.

Whenever new project launched, people will start queue at Mutiara Rini sales office 1 day earlier. Crazy....
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I heard 3 days queing wor

2018 hot time
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Thanks for explanation...

No wonder this skudai hospital so long never update again
Why they do this way?
Government so rich what
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Such a statement reflects your ability to deduce and perceive the issue critically. A truly wealthy government would not need to constantly devise new ways to tax its citizens further.
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Do you know the Taman Sri Skudai jungle ?

The jungle is opposite Taman Desa Skudai
Who is the land owner?

The house prices there haven't increased as much as in Taman Tun Aminah or Taman Selesa Jaya, probably because it's a dead-end road — the area is blocked off by a big forest.
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that land is mindef land.

ministry of defense.

it is supposed to be replacement army camp for the old majidee camp (which now sits city university and mid valley southkey etc).

old news about skudai camp

https://malaysiagazette.com/2022/08/15/kem-...salah-kewangan/

this site was one of the proposed site for HSA2,but as i mentioned many times, its location is not suitable anymore bcos its too far from main road.
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Why governement cannot just open tender and provide a RM 2.25 billion to build this hospital?
Pasir Gudang also completed 1 mah
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pasir gudang also delayed many times.

BTW pasir gudang will open in july but from what i heard from 'trust me bro' sources, a lot of equipment still havent arrived/purchased...
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2023, 01:12 AM)
plouffle datang lagi dgn wall of text/jpegs dia...

BTW this land is supposedly the army camp that was supposed to be built some 20 years ago.

lim kit siang always keep reminding the preevious govts. about this issue (the unbuilt army camp that was supposed to replace the old majidee camp, now majidee camp become midvalley JB).

the land is just after taman nesa and before the mutiara rini precinct 1 if you use the old gelang patah road on the way to the JDT stadium.

also bordering taman desa skudai on the other side.

who said skudai don't have land?

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Better utilize land to build than just jadi pak jaga land from pipur ceroboh.



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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2025, 10:52 AM)
that land is mindef land.

ministry of defense.

it is supposed to be replacement army camp for the old majidee camp (which now sits city university and mid valley southkey etc).

old news about skudai camp

https://malaysiagazette.com/2022/08/15/kem-...salah-kewangan/

this site was one of the proposed site for HSA2,but as i mentioned many times, its location is not suitable anymore bcos its too far from main road.
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Better sell to mbip and built multi storey car park....

Mutiara rini ,bukit indah many people park at shop lot and at lesdt 10 hours only back
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Today hospital open liao?
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Today hospital open liao?
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Not yet built wor
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This plot of land is very near to my house, I'd pass through it whenever I wanna go to JB or other places. I'll update if there's any inkling of land clearing activities.

At the moment, it's just tanah terbiar dipenuhi belukar.
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 30 2025, 10:55 AM)
pasir gudang also delayed many times.

BTW pasir gudang will open in july but from what i heard from 'trust me bro' sources, a lot of equipment still havent arrived/purchased...
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https://johor.sinchew.com.my/news/20250702/johor/6663446


Seems like now confirmed the land already....
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 30 2025, 01:21 PM)
This plot of land is very near to my house, I'd pass through it whenever I wanna go to JB or other places. I'll update if there's any inkling of land clearing activities.

At the moment, it's just tanah terbiar dipenuhi belukar.
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https://johor.sinchew.com.my/news/20250702/johor/6663446


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post Jul 3 2025, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Jul 2 2025, 04:29 PM)
https://johor.sinchew.com.my/news/20250702/johor/6663446
Seems like now confirmed the land already....
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yeah, it seems they revert to earlier decision...



 

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