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post Jun 25 2023, 10:47 AM, updated 3y ago

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I am likely getting a new car this year and have the new Toyota Corolla at the top of the list. Yesterday, just for fun I searched for "New car Malaysia 2023" on the internet and one of the models caught my attention. Chery Omoda 5.

To cut a story short, why can't Japanese manufacturers come up with something as appealing as this. I'm not referring to the engine, reliability or performance but the overall exterior looks which look premium and classy, and the interior design beats all Corolla Cross and hrv to me. If the Omoda 5 has a Toyota badge on it, I'll buy it without hesitation.

The last I heard was the Omoda 5 will be priced around RM130k to 140k, launching next week or next month.
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 25 2023, 10:47 AM)
I am likely getting a new car this year and have the new Toyota Corolla at the top of the list. Yesterday, just for fun I searched for "New car Malaysia 2023" on the internet and one of the models caught my attention. Chery Omoda 5.

To cut a story short, why can't Japanese manufacturers come up with something as appealing as this. I'm not referring to the engine, reliability or performance but the overall exterior looks which look premium and classy, and the interior design beats all Corolla Cross and hrv to me. If the Omoda 5 has a Toyota badge on it, I'll buy it without hesitation.

The last I heard was the Omoda 5 will be priced around RM130k to 140k, launching next week or next month.
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Here's my 2 cents worth. Established car makers generally follow a set design language and this is something that is honed and refined over the years. Unless of course there is a sudden new design direction as what BMW had during the Bangle era. It will be a risk, the public will either love it or loathe it. The Bangle 5 and 7 series were hated at launch but those designs were refined over time. For China cars, their design language is still rather new. They went from making shameful copies of established makes to now, designing cars for the new IT age. Since they have a very short history and heritage in car designs, they are able to explore all sorts of new angles based on their market research without fear of detracting from the past (their past design language is actually what they prefer to leave behind). For the Japanese, they have been usually conservative, depending on evolution rather than revolution so, they will continue to be like this till someone at the very top wakes up and charts a new design direction for the company. They usually cannot change immediately as they need to adhere to their heritage and history.
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 25 2023, 11:11 AM)
Here's my 2 cents worth. Established car makers generally follow a set design language and this is something that is honed and refined over the years. Unless of course there is a sudden new design direction as what BMW had during the Bangle era. It will be a risk, the public will either love it or loathe it. The Bangle 5 and 7 series were hated at launch but those designs were refined over time. For China cars, their design language is still rather new. They went from making shameful copies of established makes to now, designing cars for the new IT age. Since they have a very short history and heritage in car designs, they are able to explore all sorts of new angles based on their market research without fear of detracting from the past (their past design language is actually what they prefer to leave behind). For the Japanese, they have been usually conservative, depending on evolution rather than revolution so, they will continue to be like this till someone at the very top wakes up and charts a new design direction for the company. They usually cannot change immediately as they need to adhere to their heritage and history.
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japanese have been to conservative. the people who helm these companies are too old to inject exciting things into the company. they keep sticking to tried and true, which is not always bad but it's easy for their customers to get stolen by other new upcoming brands
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post Jun 25 2023, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 25 2023, 11:11 AM)
Here's my 2 cents worth. Established car makers generally follow a set design language and this is something that is honed and refined over the years. Unless of course there is a sudden new design direction as what BMW had during the Bangle era. It will be a risk, the public will either love it or loathe it. The Bangle 5 and 7 series were hated at launch but those designs were refined over time. For China cars, their design language is still rather new. They went from making shameful copies of established makes to now, designing cars for the new IT age. Since they have a very short history and heritage in car designs, they are able to explore all sorts of new angles based on their market research without fear of detracting from the past (their past design language is actually what they prefer to leave behind). For the Japanese, they have been usually conservative, depending on evolution rather than revolution so, they will continue to be like this till someone at the very top wakes up and charts a new design direction for the company. They usually cannot change immediately as they need to adhere to their heritage and history.
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Yes, agreed. I've worked with Japanese before and they are surely conversative and don't adapt to changes too quickly, in other words evolution rather than revolution.

It will be interesting to look at the reception of this completely new model from Chery and also the comeback of the brand in Malaysia. People usually stick with established brands with long history in the country, so the new comers especially Chinese manufacturers will have a tough time to prove their worth since all their vehicles are new and untested thus without history of reliability, performance and after sales service and support which are the prerequisites to maintaining a healthy client base.



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Japanese made in Japan are differ from CKD made here. As above, they are just too conservative, cut cost mode for materials especially the sound insulation materials (ckd, cbu japan ok), and straight away lazy mode by put it under CVT gb.

If TS follow China car reviews, all their car cw 1.5T, 1.8T with wet clutch DCT. Their premium model, 2.0T with 8 gear torque converter auto. Not to mention the luxury looking and feeling interior
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 25 2023, 10:47 AM)
I am likely getting a new car this year and have the new Toyota Corolla at the top of the list. Yesterday, just for fun I searched for "New car Malaysia 2023" on the internet and one of the models caught my attention. Chery Omoda 5.

To cut a story short, why can't Japanese manufacturers come up with something as appealing as this. I'm not referring to the engine, reliability or performance but the overall exterior looks which look premium and classy, and the interior design beats all Corolla Cross and hrv to me. If the Omoda 5 has a Toyota badge on it, I'll buy it without hesitation.

The last I heard was the Omoda 5 will be priced around RM130k to 140k, launching next week or next month.
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So powderful that badge?

I have sold a Toyota after driving it for a year...Really don't share the same sentiment. I Really thibk Toyota is overrated and being sold at inflated price

So are you going for the Chery? What other cars are you weighing at aside from Toyota and Chery?



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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 25 2023, 06:41 PM)
So powderful that badge?

I have sold a Toyota after driving it for a year...Really don't share the same sentiment. I Really thibk Toyota is overrated and being sold at inflated price

So are you going for the Chery? What other cars are you weighing at aside from Toyota and Chery?
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It is highly unlikely I'm going with the Chery. Right now it's only the new Toyota Corolla model that is due to launch anytime now. There are no other cars that interest me at the moment other than Toyota Corolla. My main priority first and foremost is reliability and problem-free. Other considerations such as comfort and quietness as well as looks both exterior and interior design come in next. Power, handling and performance used to be the top priorities for me 10 years ago but they are now at the bottom and are of least importance to me.

I don't think there are other brands that can do better than Toyota in the aspects that I value and if there is one, I would appreciate if you can offer some insight. May I know which Toyota model have you owned?

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Car reviewer mentioned omada 5 will be below 120k

If they want to stand an edge its smart to price their top spec below 120k

that interior

toyota looks like 30 years old car compared to this
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 25 2023, 07:47 PM)
It is highly unlikely I'm going with the Chery. Right now it's only the new Toyota Corolla model that is due to launch anytime now. There are no other cars that interest me at the moment other than Toyota Corolla. My main priority first and foremost is reliability and problem-free. Other considerations such as comfort and quietness as well as looks both exterior and interior design come in next. Power, handling and performance used to be the top priorities for me 10 years ago but they are now at the bottom and are of least importance to me.

I don't think there are other brands that can do better than Toyota in the aspects that I value and if there is one, I would appreciate if you can offer some insight. May I know which Toyota model have you owned?
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Oh I see. You are not considering Chery at all. It was a Corolla Cross 1.8V that I have sold off.

The reason I have bought it was like yours: reliability and problem free as I was driving a Peugeot before.

But at days becomes weeks and weeks become months, I regretted it immensely, Toyota cars are really super boring, it gets the job done but none the excitement.

Mazda 3 can be an alternative if you can forgive its shortcomings...





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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 25 2023, 10:17 PM)
Oh I see. You are not considering Chery at all. It was a Corolla Cross 1.8V that I have sold off.

The reason I have bought it was like yours: reliability and problem free as I was driving a Peugeot before.

But at days becomes weeks and weeks become months, I regretted it immensely, Toyota cars are really super boring, it gets the job done but none the excitement.

Mazda 3 can be an alternative if you can forgive its shortcomings...
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I am aware Toyota vehicles are boring to drive but the Corolla sedan with tnga platform was said to have good handling while maintaining a comfortable drive, combining these 2 aspects that usually don't go well together. I watched the YouTube video by YS Khong and he was quite impressed. Did you test drive the Corolla before? Most SUVs are usually boring to drive even the Mazda CX5 due to higher centre of gravity but people who buy these vehicles have different priorities. I have colleagues and friends who own the Corolla cross hybrid model and one of them complained it lacks power.

By the way, when I went to a Toyota showroom last month, I viewed the Corolla Cross inside out. The interior does not appeal to me especially the handles of the door panel at the rear which looked too chunky.

Mazda 3 is appealing to me yes. It's the price that puts me away. The CKD old model used to sell around RM125k or slightly less but this new model now is priced much higher around 160k or higher if I'm not mistaken. Perhaps the quality of the CBU Japan is a factor. Ultimately it's above my budget as I'm looking at about 140k tops.

I drive a Ford Focus mk3 and in the first 3 years when it's still new, it drives like a dream. Approaching the 8th year I've fallen out of love with the car for reasons you may well know since you owned a Peugeot.

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jun 25 2023, 08:35 PM)
Car reviewer mentioned omada 5 will be below 120k

If they want to stand an edge its smart to price their top spec below 120k

that interior

toyota looks like 30 years old car compared to this
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Below RM120k? That's quite attractive. Yes I agree the interior of Toyota Corolla Cross does not look good to me especially the door panels and chunky handles. I haven't seen the interior of the new Corolla and hopefully it will look a bit better than the Cross.

The interior of the Omoda 5 surely looks good, the exterior of the car looks like a RM250k model.
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Altis facelift in Thailand recently with hardly any identifiable change, Just Google and see.

QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 25 2023, 10:47 AM)
I am likely getting a new car this year and have the new Toyota Corolla at the top of the list. Yesterday, just for fun I searched for "New car Malaysia 2023" on the internet and one of the models caught my attention. Chery Omoda 5.

To cut a story short, why can't Japanese manufacturers come up with something as appealing as this. I'm not referring to the engine, reliability or performance but the overall exterior looks which look premium and classy, and the interior design beats all Corolla Cross and hrv to me. If the Omoda 5 has a Toyota badge on it, I'll buy it without hesitation.

The last I heard was the Omoda 5 will be priced around RM130k to 140k, launching next week or next month.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 25 2023, 06:42 PM)
Below RM120k? That's quite attractive. Yes I agree the interior of Toyota Corolla Cross does not look good to me especially the door panels and chunky handles. I haven't seen the interior of the new Corolla and hopefully it will look a bit better than the Cross.

The interior of the Omoda 5 surely looks good, the exterior of the car looks like a RM250k model.
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omoda 5 seems to lose on the ride and handling

can check out other reviews who test the driving

its too soft

cornering also like a boat

but good if u drive politely dont whack the corner
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jun 26 2023, 07:29 AM)
omoda 5 seems to lose on the ride and handling

can check out other reviews who test the driving

its too soft

cornering also like a boat

but good if u drive politely dont whack the corner
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Thanks for the information. I have expected Chinese vehicles to be lacking in areas of ride and handling but if tuned to a comfortable ride then it should be fine. For SUVs it's not too critical but the suspension should not be too soft. I test drove the Honda CRV several years ago and the suspension is too soft or bouncy for my preferences as well. If reviews of the Chery Omoda 5 are accurate, it's unfortunate the handling does not match the sporty elegant looks of the vehicle.


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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 26 2023, 04:07 AM)
Thanks for the information. I have expected Chinese vehicles to be lacking in areas of ride and handling but if tuned to a comfortable ride then it should be fine. For SUVs it's not too critical but the suspension should not be too soft. I test drove the Honda CRV several years ago and the suspension is too soft or bouncy for my preferences as well. If reviews of the Chery Omoda 5 are accurate, it's unfortunate the handling does not match the sporty elegant looks of the vehicle.
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driving style can be adjusted

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jun 26 2023, 12:26 AM)
Altis facelift in Thailand recently with hardly any identifiable change, Just Google and see.
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Yes. One thing that surprises me is there is hardly any information or leaks on the upcoming Corolla since it's about to be launched in 1 or 2 months time. Rumours on the Corolla thread are the vehicle may be CKD locally instead of CBU Thailand so Toyota might just plonk the existing hybrid engine in the Corolla Cross into the Corolla sedan.

It wouldn't make any sense if the upcoming new Corolla model only has changes such as some USB ports added here and there and then they market it as an all-new model.
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post Jun 26 2023, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 26 2023, 08:07 AM)
Thanks for the information. I have expected Chinese vehicles to be lacking in areas of ride and handling but if tuned to a comfortable ride then it should be fine. For SUVs it's not too critical but the suspension should not be too soft. I test drove the Honda CRV several years ago and the suspension is too soft or bouncy for my preferences as well. If reviews of the Chery Omoda 5 are accurate, it's unfortunate the handling does not match the sporty elegant looks of the vehicle.
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Chery (also Changan, GWM etc) as a whole is a company that do only car assembly, lack of car R&D. They buy off the shelves components, hire some art designer and put things together.
The one area they are ahead of market, is ambient lights and infotainment screen size.

Imagine P2 without platform/engines design from Daihatsu, what would it be? Yes, reverse engineering and copy cat.

Ride and Handling, take thousands, hundred thousands of hours of road testing. See how Hyundai test their car these days, and it is reflected in the current products.

They also buy off the shelves electronics, ABC, TC, ESP and implement the vanilla algorithm from the suppliers. Again missing the tuning and road testing. If you can read mandarin, checkout reviews from inside China great firewall, all kind of funny stories.

Down to the basic like brake bias, how to size the front vs rear brake.

Basically due to 2 reasons. First they've been focus on 3rd world low cost market. It doesn't transition overnight. Second, China mostly city driving, they rarely drive past 80km/h, if you've been there, speed trap every 100-200m on some roads.

Overall, I would avoid these companies until they started to invest in motorsport like Geely (via Lynk & Co, Cyan Racing), and Hyundai (N).
If they do determined to change and improves to be a proper car makers with real R&D, it would take 10-15 years, that's how long Geely/Hyundai taken to transform themselves. But in current stage, I didn't see the effort yet.

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jun 26 2023, 09:58 AM)
Chery (also Changan, GWM etc) as a whole is a company that do only car assembly, lack of car R&D. They buy off the shelves components, hire some art designer and put things together.
The one area they are ahead of market, is ambient lights and infotainment screen size.

Ride and Handling, take thousands, hundred thousands of hours of road testing. See how Hyundai test their car these days, and it is reflected in the current products.

They also buy off the shelves electronics, ABC, TC, ESP and implement the vanilla algorithm from the suppliers. Again missing the tuning and road testing. If you can read mandarin, checkout reviews from inside China great firewall, all kind of funny stories.

Down to the basic like brake bias, how to size the front vs rear brake.

Overall, I would avoid these companies until they started to invest in motorsport like Geely (via Lynk & Co, Cyan Racing), and Hyundai (N).
If they do determined to change and improves to be a proper car makers with real R&D, it would take 10-15 years, that's how long Geely/Hyundai taken to transform themselves. But in current stage, I didn't see the effort yet.
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What you say may very well be true, but the biggest question or perhaps nightmare is how long will the company or dealership last in Malaysia after a 2nd entry to the market with this all-new model? The survival of the company will largely depend on the reception of the people, ultimately the sales. If the sales are poor, imagine buying the vehicle but going into next year the company closes down and cease to exist with no more support to owners who have already bought the car...

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jun 26 2023, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 26 2023, 01:22 PM)
What you say may very well be true, but the biggest question or perhaps nightmare is how long will the company or dealership last in Malaysia after a 2nd entry to the market with this all-new model? The survival of the company will largely depend on the reception of the people, ultimately the sales. If the sales are poor, imagine buying the vehicle but going into next year the company closes down and cease to exist with no more support to owners who have already bought the car...
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Yes, absolutely right. This is another concern.


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This is because everything has a costs to it and the average consumers are too cheap to pay for it therefore you can choose to either:-

1) buy car, free engine; OR
2) buy engine, free car

and then applying the universal truth theory of "cheap things not good, good things not cheap", you will have the answer that you are looking for.

if you can afford to pay then pay to buy a Lexus then you'll get the best of both worlds.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 25 2023, 10:17 PM)
Mazda 3 can be an alternative if you can forgive its shortcomings...
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I've had a 2nd look at the Mazda 3. The 2.0 low spec model at RM150k may still be reachable. However, if I"m not mistaken the model is already near to its cycle as the new model with Skyactiv X may be replacing the current model soon. Since you are always up to date with the current trends and news in the automotive industry, do you know roughly when Mazda will bring in the new Mazda 3 model with Skyactiv X that will replace the current model?

The Mazda 3 was launched in 2019 or 2020 if I'm not mistaken. So it's about time since the replacement cycle with Japanese cars is around 4 years. Next year 2024?

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jun 26 2023, 09:58 AM)
Chery (also Changan, GWM etc) as a whole is a company that do only car assembly, lack of car R&D. They buy off the shelves components, hire some art designer and put things together.
The one area they are ahead of market, is ambient lights and infotainment screen size.

Imagine P2 without platform/engines design from Daihatsu, what would it be? Yes, reverse engineering and copy cat.

Ride and Handling, take thousands, hundred thousands of hours of road testing. See how Hyundai test their car these days, and it is reflected in the current products.

They also buy off the shelves electronics, ABC, TC, ESP and implement the vanilla algorithm from the suppliers. Again missing the tuning and road testing. If you can read mandarin, checkout reviews from inside China great firewall, all kind of funny stories.

Down to the basic like brake bias, how to size the front vs rear brake.

Basically due to 2 reasons. First they've been focus on 3rd world low cost market. It doesn't transition overnight. Second, China mostly city driving, they rarely drive past 80km/h, if you've been there, speed trap every 100-200m on some roads.

Overall, I would avoid these companies until they started to invest in motorsport like Geely (via Lynk & Co, Cyan Racing), and Hyundai (N).
If they do determined to change and improves to be a proper car makers with real R&D, it would take 10-15 years, that's how long Geely/Hyundai taken to transform themselves. But in current stage, I didn't see the effort yet.
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you will be surprised at the number of people easily brainwashed by just design alone

but its not that surprising considering the demographics here and how much the consumers pay attention to automobile development

and as usual I feel sad for the Korean brands as somehow these people felt Chinese cars are 100% better now
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 26 2023, 04:31 PM)
I've had a 2nd look at the Mazda 3. The 2.0 low spec model at RM150k may still be reachable. However, if I"m not mistaken the model is already near to its cycle as the new model with Skyactiv X may be replacing the current model soon. Since you are always up to date with the current trends and news in the automotive industry, do you know roughly when Mazda will bring in the new Mazda 3 model with Skyactiv X that will replace the current model?

The Mazda 3 was launched in 2019 or 2020 if I'm not mistaken. So it's about time since the replacement cycle with Japanese cars is around 4 years. Next year 2024?
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dont worry, it wont come here. Plus we got Bermaz here as well for Mazda, sure we stuck with existing model for longer time

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Toyota hmmm. if you are buying any GR then I support the badge if not please go for Lexus.

UMW Camry, Corolla are overprice.
if you really care about the interior of the car, it sure disappoint you gao gao.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 26 2023, 04:31 PM)
I've had a 2nd look at the Mazda 3. The 2.0 low spec model at RM150k may still be reachable. However, if I"m not mistaken the model is already near to its cycle as the new model with Skyactiv X may be replacing the current model soon. Since you are always up to date with the current trends and news in the automotive industry, do you know roughly when Mazda will bring in the new Mazda 3 model with Skyactiv X that will replace the current model?

The Mazda 3 was launched in 2019 or 2020 if I'm not mistaken. So it's about time since the replacement cycle with Japanese cars is around 4 years. Next year 2024?
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If Australia market response to it was "yikes, too expensive", I don't think Malaysian has stomach for it.

And, Australian really loves Mazda mind you, being 2nd best selling brand after Toyota

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/is-ma...-failed-to-work


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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jun 26 2023, 09:01 PM)
If Australia market response to it was "yikes, too expensive", I don't think Malaysian has stomach for it.

And, Australian really loves Mazda mind you, being 2nd best selling brand after Toyota

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/is-ma...-failed-to-work
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Here price is a big factor. Especially it the car lack of features. Check Elantra with tiny 1.6NA engine sold at rm168k, no wonder no one buying it. Bermaz here for Mazda, no news for latest version of CX5, keep on as of now until what year?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 26 2023, 09:48 PM)
Here price is a big factor. Especially it the car lack of features.  Check Elantra with tiny 1.6NA engine sold at rm168k, no wonder no one buying it. Bermaz here for Mazda, no news for latest version of CX5, keep on as of now until what year?
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They can't bring the new CX5 here. New one will cost an arm and leg. It's projected price hike does not justify the small set of features introduced in the latest CX-5.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jun 27 2023, 02:24 AM)
They can't bring the new CX5 here. New one will cost an arm and leg. It's projected price hike does not justify the small set of features introduced in the latest CX-5.
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We might become like Wira era. Stuck with old model for years when abroad already with new model
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 27 2023, 08:06 AM)
We might become like Wira era. Stuck with old model for years when abroad already with new model
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Received the brochure of the Omoda 5 (PDF) via from a friend via Whatsapp today so attaching it here for those who are interested in this vehicle.

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my view on the design

1) front is meh.
2) behind is good
3) interior is good
4) why wheel arch so big? got big gap
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the front grille feels like could trigger trypophobia

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Trypophobia (trip-uh-FOE-bee-uh) is an aversion or repulsion to objects like honeycombs and sponges that have repetitive patterns or clusters of small holes. People with trypophobia are disgusted by the pattern of holes. They don’t necessarily have a fear of holes.

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Received the brochure of the Omoda 5 (PDF) via from a friend via Whatsapp today so attaching it here for those who are interested in this vehicle.

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where this showroom

can go see adi?

the red looks too ahbeng n ugly

i prefer if get full blacked out exterior or glossy black
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Interior look ok than Japanese model rival

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Take aside design, Toyota in Malaysia even supplied with very dated dual VVT-i engine instead of the newer Dynamic Force engine that is provided by other countries.

Their target market for MY really for those who do not question about the technology but someone who looking for proven formula and doesn't mind it being dated with a Toyota badge.
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I am likely getting a new car this year and have the new Toyota Corolla at the top of the list. Yesterday, just for fun I searched for "New car Malaysia 2023" on the internet and one of the models caught my attention. Chery Omoda 5.

To cut a story short, why can't Japanese manufacturers come up with something as appealing as this. I'm not referring to the engine, reliability or performance but the overall exterior looks which look premium and classy, and the interior design beats all Corolla Cross and hrv to me. If the Omoda 5 has a Toyota badge on it, I'll buy it without hesitation.

The last I heard was the Omoda 5 will be priced around RM130k to 140k, launching next week or next month.
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Was interested too, until I got tired of the foot-dragging by Chery since before the pandemic.

Biggest question is warranty and after-sales support.

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jul 6 2023, 10:29 AM)
Take aside design, Toyota in Malaysia even supplied with very dated dual VVT-i engine instead of the newer Dynamic Force engine that is provided by other countries.

Their target market for MY really for those who do not question about the technology but someone who looking for proven formula and doesn't mind it being dated with a Toyota badge.
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10-12 years ago people still buy that junk, nowadays, good job Malaysian, they choose brands with better features. Look Altis vs Civic for example. HU also aftermarket Brothers look.
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 6 2023, 10:37 AM)
Was interested too, until I got tired of the foot-dragging by Chery since before the pandemic.

Biggest question is warranty and after-sales support.
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10-year/1,000,000-km warranty. Good job, this will make other maker rivals lower their ball to improve the warranty in the future. cough for Bermaz, 100k km warranty but dont give ATF change,.

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jul 6 2023, 10:10 AM)
where this showroom

can go see adi?

the red looks too ahbeng n ugly

i prefer if get full blacked out exterior or glossy black
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No idea where is the showroom as I just received all this via Whatsapp from a friend. Forgot to mention, in the Whatsapp message, it was mentioned that the Chery Omoda 5 is retailing below RM120k with 5 years warranty and free service parts & labour, 10 years warranty on engine.

Didn't view this vehicle although initially I had the interest after looking at the futuristic elegant looks both interior and exterior. Unknown reliability and after-sales support combined with claimed below par handling (light steering) of the vehicle are the main factors that prevent me from considering the car. If on design alone both interior and exterior looks, I would give the nod to the Omoda 5. Price was claimed to be below RM120k, so if it's RM11x,000 for high spec model, the overall package can be considered to be good.

Similarly, I feel the red stripes ruined the elegant looks of the vehicle. Without it looks more elegant. Having said that, it's a matter of taste and perhaps the younger generation like the looks of the added red stripe. They have the vehicle without the red stripe but those models are the low-spec without the added features. The vehicle with red stripe is the high-spec model.

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 6 2023, 10:44 AM)
10-year/1,000,000-km warranty. Good job, this will make other maker rivals lower their ball to improve the warranty in the future. cough for Bermaz, 100k km warranty but dont give ATF change,.
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10 years or 100 years warranty ka or 1000000km or unlimited km ka is all nonsense
they can keep your car there 6 months for claims with reason no spareparts

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 6 2023, 11:18 AM)
10 years or 100 years warranty ka or 1000000km or unlimited km ka is all nonsense
they can keep your car there 6 months for claims with reason no spareparts
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Better than no warranty.
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10-year/1,000,000-km warranty. Good job, this will make other maker rivals lower their ball to improve the warranty in the future. cough for Bermaz, 100k km warranty but dont give ATF change,.
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Need to pay attention to the caveats in the small print. Maybe 10-year but drivetrain & electronics only 2-3 years, who knows?

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Go ahead, ts

Ppl will start forgetting toyota honda in the coming years
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Go ahead, ts

Ppl will start forgetting toyota honda in the coming years
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This. Umw Shah Alam stingy features and Alor Gajah Honda poor NVH cz cut cutting. Surprisingly Honda recond get great or much better NVH.
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https://www.thesundaily.my/local/tengku-zaf...rket-AI11197447
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Tengku Zafrul: NIMP2030 to capitalise on US$2.7 bln Asean EV market
07-07- 2023 07:05 AM

KUALA LUMPUR: The New Industrial Master Plan 2030 (NIMP2030), to be launched in August this year, will be capitalising on the US$2.7 billion (US$1=RM4.66) Asean electric vehicle (EV) market, said Investment, Trade and Industry Minister Tengku Datuk Seri Zafrul Abdul Aziz.

He said Chery Malaysia’s plan to inject an initial capital of RM170 million for its expansion strategies here will not only provide variety and excitement to the local auto market but also support Malaysia’s gross domestic product (GDP) growth through strategic sectoral growth.

As part of its global expansion, the Chinese state-owned automobile manufacturer today announced the injection of RM170 million for expansion in Malaysia, which will provide 4,000 high-paying, high-skilled jobs for Malaysians in the next five years.


“Mass electrification from the automotive sector fits in well with the country’s national environmental, social and governance (ESG) and net zero agenda from the manufacturing industry’s perspective. As such, we have already started pushing for higher EV penetration within our country.

“As Malaysia is a major electrical and electronics manufacturing hub in Southeast Asia, automakers like Chery can easily leverage on this to help grow Malaysia’s production of next-generation vehicles (or NxGVs),” he said in his speech at the official grand launch of Chery Malaysia’s Tiggo 8PRO and Omoda 5 here today.

Chery Malaysia, according to Tengku Zafrul, is also targeting to launch both its EV and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEV) models to reach around 20 per cent of the EV market share in Malaysia by as early as 2024, and will also introduce its affordable EV models in future.


“The Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry (Miti) welcomes all these initiatives as they are aligned with our national aspiration of having 15 per cent total industry volume (TIV) for electrified vehicles (EV and hybrid) by 2030, and 38 per cent of TIV by year 2040,” he said.

The minister said that Malaysia has a dynamic automotive industry which supports over 700,000 workers in its ecosystem, accounting for over 4.4 per cent of the Malaysian workforce.

Its contribution to Malaysia’s GDP is about four to five per cent on average annually, and it delivered RM64.5 billion towards the national GDP in 2022.

Miti is targeting to increase the sector’s GDP contribution to RM104.2 billion by 2030.-Bernama


Hmmm....so far the most Ambitious (EV) plan ever mentioned by a Chinese car makers for Malaysia

Sounded even more agressive than Geely /Proton

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Condition of Chery Tinggo 8 on 10 Mar 2023. The car was bought 3 Sep 2020. Less than 3 years car shocking.gif

https://m.12365auto.com/zlts/20230616/939101.shtml

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jul 7 2023, 11:53 AM)
Condition of Chery Tinggo 8 on 10 Mar 2023. The car was bought 3 Sep 2020. Less than 3 years car  shocking.gif

https://m.12365auto.com/zlts/20230616/939101.shtml

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OT? That one clearly the different and old model. brows.gif
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This Chery Omoda would appeal to people who just want a nice futuristic design and low price and nothing else. At RM11x,000 for the high spec, seems like a bargain if one can look past its shortcomings since most comparable SUVS in the same class are selling at around RM140k or higher, all mostly with duller or less elegant interior (or exterior) design. Quality of fitting, no comment as haven't viewed the actual thing or fiddled with the buttons and switches.

Perhaps those who have too much money may consider this as their 2nd or 3rd backup vehicle to run around or going to wet market or pasar malam mainly for the relatively low price (considering it looks like a RM200k+ model and cheaper than the competition).
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OT? That one clearly the different and old model. brows.gif
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Tiggo 8 also coming into Malaysia. 2020 vs new car still same generation, just facelift cosmetic.

If same suppliers, same factory... just sharing lah, each buyer make their own judgement.

Each buyer can hope those made outside China (here, also those sold in Australia) have better quality, since we are more transparent, and better regulated countries.

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A different path taken , hmmmmm......

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Unlike their previous foray, Chery has chosen to enter the market this time without a local partner, opting to cut its own path in a competitive market. Even the mighty BYD chose to partner with major player Sime Darby. Additionally, Chery confirmed that 31 dealerships will be ready to serve new customers by launch date, with more scheduled to open by the end of 2023.

Another point to highlight about Chery’s aggressive plans is their bringing both the Omoda 5 and Tiggo 8 Pro to market in CKD, locally-assembled form right from the outset with all Chery models sold here to have rolled off the Inokom plant in Kulim. This is opposed to the usual practice of introducing an initial batch of fully imported cars to achieve an earlier launch date, followed by CKD units down the road


https://www.carlist.my/news/2023-chery-omod...-131306/131306/

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Chery (also Changan, GWM etc) as a whole is a company that do only car assembly, lack of car R&D. They buy off the shelves components, hire some art designer and put things together.
The one area they are ahead of market, is ambient lights and infotainment screen size.

Imagine P2 without platform/engines design from Daihatsu, what would it be? Yes, reverse engineering and copy cat.

Ride and Handling, take thousands, hundred thousands of hours of road testing. See how Hyundai test their car these days, and it is reflected in the current products.

They also buy off the shelves electronics, ABC, TC, ESP and implement the vanilla algorithm from the suppliers. Again missing the tuning and road testing. If you can read mandarin, checkout reviews from inside China great firewall, all kind of funny stories.

Down to the basic like brake bias, how to size the front vs rear brake.

Basically due to 2 reasons. First they've been focus on 3rd world low cost market. It doesn't transition overnight. Second, China mostly city driving, they rarely drive past 80km/h, if you've been there, speed trap every 100-200m on some roads.

Overall, I would avoid these companies until they started to invest in motorsport like Geely (via Lynk & Co, Cyan Racing), and Hyundai (N).
If they do determined to change and improves to be a proper car makers with real R&D, it would take 10-15 years, that's how long Geely/Hyundai taken to transform themselves. But in current stage, I didn't see the effort yet.
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That's what I'm thinking on on the tiggo 8pro

If the car is easy to repair and parts sharing with many common cars out there, then can still go workshops other than SC to take care of the car

Plus if it's reliable or at least reverse engineered from other car, then should be still safe to driver for 5 to 7 years, anyone knows what engine is their 2.0t DCT (plug and play from VW ?), i know some of the X70 parts like oil filter is same like VW, is this also the same?

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Yes buybit maybe 50k chepaee compare to others brand, when coming in resale acter 5 yewrs, I wonder how kuch it will fetch.
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Took the chance today to visit showroom for the Omoda 5 here in Alor Setar. The dealer was still new and even the shop sign was still using the previous shop sign (it was a Peugeot branch) laugh.gif

Anyway, I digress. Saw the Tigo 8 Pro first but my focus was the Omoda 5 which was only available in H variant in dual tone white body and black roof. Unfortunately test drives car need to make an appointment directly with the dealer (despite me registering for one in their main website). So have to suffice with just the display model.

I was greeted by a SA named Bok and he showed me the car and was trying to convince me how Chery was unlike it's previous tenure and how they're trying to change the local perception of the brand. Only time can tell t be honest lol.

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The exterior looks very much nicer in person and the crystal like paint job is a nice touch. I was a bit hesitant about the front bumper look but I have grown to accept it. Side view is very much a sporty SUV with that rear slope line.

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Interior wise is very futuristic and miles ahead from Proton X50 and new HRV. The HU/Driver Display has no creaking noise when touched, so that's good.

I am 175cm Height with my legs being the longest part. Seating position was adjusted to my driving position and thighs were properly supported and driving view is good based on first impressions.

There's a dedicated USB-A port at the safety camera sensor at the top of the windscreen for dashcam. So that's a bonus.
The awkward thing was front passenger gets USB-A and USB-C port but the driver gets a cigarette charging port? blink.gif

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Rear passengers gets shorter seats but my thighs were still getting support albeit there's still some areas that feel like being afloat. The rear seats are fixed and can't be adjusted to further lean back but it's not too upright like the Bezza or other cars. Rear passengers also get rear air-cond vents. (Please excuse my hairy legs blush.gif ) thumbsup.gif

The transmission/exhaust pipe hump is not overly big but a middle passenger might not feel comfortable seating there.

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Boot area looks big with a very flat boot lip. Also has a power outlet thumbup.gif

First impressions overall, it's a very promising car with no real flaws except for their after sales support which only time can tell TBH. Their warranty supports looks good on paper but have to check their T&C first and foremost.

That's all for my first impression. Will update again for my test drive impressions laugh.gif

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had myself a test drive. i skipped.
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Jul 9 2023, 06:04 PM)
Took the chance today to visit showroom for the Omoda 5 here in Alor Setar. The dealer was still new and even the shop sign was still using the previous shop sign (it was a Peugeot branch)  laugh.gif

Anyway, I digress. Saw the Tigo 8 Pro first but my focus was the Omoda 5 which was only available in H variant in dual tone white body and black roof. Unfortunately test drives car need to make an appointment directly with the dealer (despite me registering for one in their main website). So have to suffice with just the display model.

I was greeted by a SA named Bok and he showed me the car and was trying to convince me how Chery was unlike it's previous tenure and how they're trying to change the local perception of the brand. Only time can tell t be honest lol.

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The exterior looks very much nicer in person and the crystal like paint job is a nice touch. I was a bit hesitant about the front bumper look but I have grown to accept it. Side view is very much a sporty SUV with that rear slope line.

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Interior wise is very futuristic and miles ahead from Proton X50 and new HRV. The HU/Driver Display has no creaking noise when touched, so that's good.

I am 175cm Height with my legs being the longest part. Seating position was adjusted to my driving position and thighs were properly supported and driving view is good based on first impressions.

There's a dedicated USB-A port at the safety camera sensor at the top of the windscreen for dashcam. So that's a bonus.
The awkward thing was front passenger gets USB-A and USB-C port but the driver gets a cigarette charging port?  blink.gif

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Rear passengers gets shorter seats but my thighs were still getting support albeit there's still some areas that feel like being afloat. The rear seats are fixed and can't be adjusted to further lean back but it's not too upright like the Bezza or other cars. Rear passengers also get rear air-cond vents. (Please excuse my hairy legs  blush.gif ) :thumbsup:

The transmission/exhaust pipe hump is not overly big but a middle passenger might not feel comfortable seating there.

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Boot area looks big with a very flat boot lip. Also has a power outlet  thumbup.gif

First impressions overall, it's a very promising car with no real flaws except for their after sales support which only time can tell TBH. Their warranty supports looks good on paper but have to check their T&C first and foremost.

That's all for my first impression. Will update again for my test drive impressions  laugh.gif
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Interior and exterior of the vehicle surely look good. More like an upmarket car costing RM300k rather than 110k. In this sense I would say job well done. It's just unfortunate most reviews on the handling and performance of the car seem to suggest that it's not up to standard. The other factor is after sales service which no one can tell since the Cherry set up is new and just landed in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Jul 9 2023, 02:09 PM)
had myself a test drive. i skipped.
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why?

power is good

handling wise not much comment as SA only let me drive on highway for awhile

experienced the lane keep as it nudges me back into line and i felt like i hit a small bump

features amazing

voice command

sun roof can open halfway so its cool

definitely appeal to youngsters with the red accent
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it seems that changan and geely ranked top in reliability reports recently.

chery is only export king for chinese cars. that model is tiggo 7 pro. but the brand yes export king.

if geely ranked top then how la this chery gona last...or proton failed to protect geely reputation here?
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Had a test drive for both cars.

Put a down payment for Omoda.

Handling is decent, great turning cycle, awesome set of tech, great space and looks good
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Had a test drive for both cars.

Put a down payment for Omoda.

Handling is decent, great turning cycle, awesome set of tech, great space and looks good
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hope u are within the 3000 early bird

SA say they also dunno only HQ knows

i would also put booking but now no money after paying for house haha
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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Jul 9 2023, 09:41 PM)
Had a test drive for both cars.

Put a down payment for Omoda.

Handling is decent, great turning cycle, awesome set of tech, great space and looks good
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high spec or low?


any comment from daddy on the child seat ; is it able to fix nicely

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jul 9 2023, 09:43 PM)
hope u are within the 3000 early bird

SA say they also dunno only HQ knows

i would also put booking but now no money after paying for house haha
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SA said he's pretty sure I'm in. Booked on Saturday.

Promised free 1.4k worth security tint, carpet, RFID

Any SA offering other free gifts?
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High Spec

Alamak my kids no longer need of Child seats, so I didn't ask. Sorry

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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Jul 9 2023, 05:48 PM)
SA said he's pretty sure I'm in. Booked on Saturday.

Promised free 1.4k worth security tint, carpet, RFID

Any SA offering other free gifts?
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my SA from balakong said only cherry HQ knows

but u can add on 2k or 3k forgotten how much adi to add on the warranty period

congratz on ur buy

sure will turn heads everytime u reach home
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High Spec

Alamak my kids no longer need of Child seats, so I didn't ask. Sorry
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it's ok ; i will keep my comment here ..maybe other experienced daddy can help to clear my doubt tongue.gif biggrin.gif

still thinking next family car this or top up 10k buy low spec civic sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jul 9 2023, 09:51 PM)
my SA from balakong said only cherry HQ knows

but u can add on 2k or 3k forgotten how much adi to add on the warranty period

congratz on ur buy

sure will turn heads everytime u reach home
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I'm upgrading from nissan almari. The comfort, handling, power and tech is significant already lol
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I'm upgrading from nissan almari. The comfort, handling, power and tech is significant already lol
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from almari then its a no brainer la

upgrade on ALL aspects

tech really cool

when low speed taking turn the screen will show u the view

150k car also no 360 camera but this 122k can give

price also tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jul 9 2023, 09:55 PM)
from almari then its a no brainer la

upgrade on ALL aspects

tech really cool

when low speed taking turn the screen will show u the view

150k car also no 360 camera but this 122k can give

price also  tongue.gif
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Hahhaa yeah. Initially wanted HRV but disappointed with the space. Better spend a bit more to get CRV. Then suddenly read about Omoda so thought give it a chance and the test drive convinced me. The lane departure warning got haptic feedback lagi, very very nice. On sporty mode memang syok tekan

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any comment from daddy on the child seat ; is it able to fix nicely
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Recent car nowadays no issues to put or slot in the isofix
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jul 9 2023, 09:43 PM)
hope u are within the 3000 early bird

SA say they also dunno only HQ knows

i would also put booking but now no money after paying for house haha
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I think should be within 3000 early birds la.

Anyway i read crom news, buyer can pay extra rm2000 to purchase the extended engine warranty to 10 years. I guess this is worth to buy in off course with strict T&C to follow
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high spec or low?
any comment from daddy on the child seat ; is it able to fix nicely
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Recent car nowadays no issues to put or slot in the isofix
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This is a 5-star Euroncap car, you worry too much.
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ALTERNATIVELY, wait for this



The CKD GAC GS3 will hit local showrooms mid-2024.

GAC Motor and WTC Automotif (WTCA), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Warisan TC Holdings (a Tan Chong Group company), officially announced a CKD project that will see GAC cars roll out from Tan Chong’s Segambut plant in April 2024, with sales starting from the middle of next year.

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ALTERNATIVELY, wait for this



The CKD GAC GS3 will hit local showrooms mid-2024.

GAC Motor and WTC Automotif (WTCA), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Warisan TC Holdings (a Tan Chong Group company), officially announced a CKD project that will see GAC cars roll out from Tan Chong’s Segambut plant in April 2024, with sales starting from the middle of next year.
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TCM? Ok skip. No wonder all not buying their Nissan model. Almera vs City, features wise Almera not bad but people don't want TCM
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QUOTE(hjack @ Jul 10 2023, 11:52 AM)
This is a 5-star Euroncap car, you worry too much.
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My concern is more on remaining space after child seat fitment
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TCM? Ok skip. No wonder all not buying their Nissan model. Almera vs City, features wise Almera not bad but people don't want TCM
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https://www.wapcar.my/news/mitsubishi-denie...ed-xforce-70465

If service is very vital. Wait for this
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jul 9 2023, 05:44 PM)
high spec or low?
any comment from daddy on the child seat ; is it able to fix nicely
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can see at minite 3.53 the isofix point

based on thickness of front seats i would say after u put child seat it might be cramp or maybe in front cant slide seat to max backwards position

but this is common in B segment suv

since wheel base is not ur friend here

if u want more space u need to up to at least C segment cars

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jul 10 2023, 01:19 PM)
My concern is more on remaining space after child seat fitment
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D segment car rear interior is massive. So no issues after install car seat
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QUOTE(dagnarus @ Jul 9 2023, 09:41 PM)
Had a test drive for both cars.

Put a down payment for Omoda.

Handling is decent, great turning cycle, awesome set of tech, great space and looks good
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Why none of people posting Triggo 8 PRO ? 160K by throwing all the spec & power no competitors can come close to it
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https://www.wapcar.my/news/chery-malaysia-s...n-10-days-70817

3000 in 10 days. Hmmmm........
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jul 17 2023, 01:13 PM)
great price and features. hopefully, UMW will learn more on this. Bermaz as well for the outdated 100k km capped warranty
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2023, 02:31 PM)
great price and features. hopefully, UMW will learn more on this. Bermaz as well for the outdated 100k km capped warranty
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They are terms to give you this 10 year warranty, in these 10 years mostly you will need to commit to their service center for servicing & also parts replacement which they will earn the profit back. You don't have the options to go aftermarket, if found anything not original they can just void your warranty. icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 17 2023, 01:52 PM)
They are terms to give you this 10 year warranty, in these 10 years mostly you will need to commit to their service center for servicing & also parts replacement which they will earn the profit back. You don't have the options to go aftermarket, if found anything not original they can just void your warranty.  icon_idea.gif
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for ppl like me who stick with authorised SC even for >10 yrs old car, it's fine biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 17 2023, 01:52 PM)
They are terms to give you this 10 year warranty, in these 10 years mostly you will need to commit to their service center for servicing & also parts replacement which they will earn the profit back. You don't have the options to go aftermarket, if found anything not original they can just void your warranty.  icon_idea.gif
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the cx5 diesel owner had engine blown out at mileage 110k km and plenty of GB broke when hit >100k km. Bermaz said no warranty cover cz u already exceeded the capped mileage. Inb4 dont buy Mazda Diesel and please send for ATF change outside. I will take the prolong warranty in this case cz ease of mind.

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Here's my 2 cents worth. Established car makers generally follow a set design language and this is something that is honed and refined over the years. Unless of course there is a sudden new design direction as what BMW had during the Bangle era. It will be a risk, the public will either love it or loathe it. The Bangle 5 and 7 series were hated at launch but those designs were refined over time. For China cars, their design language is still rather new. They went from making shameful copies of established makes to now, designing cars for the new IT age. Since they have a very short history and heritage in car designs, they are able to explore all sorts of new angles based on their market research without fear of detracting from the past (their past design language is actually what they prefer to leave behind). For the Japanese, they have been usually conservative, depending on evolution rather than revolution so, they will continue to be like this till someone at the very top wakes up and charts a new design direction for the company. They usually cannot change immediately as they need to adhere to their heritage and history.
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They are terms to give you this 10 year warranty, in these 10 years mostly you will need to commit to their service center for servicing & also parts replacement which they will earn the profit back. You don't have the options to go aftermarket, if found anything not original they can just void your warranty.  icon_idea.gif
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they can give you 10 years or 1 mil km mileage but when you go and claim cound be a different story
they may honour the defect, but if no spare parts and have to wait months for the repair then what is the point of warranty?
just like proton x70 and x50 initially launched time. many was stranded with cars in work shop for 6 months
or peugeot and some other brands where people have to wait for spare parts for months.

hahaha
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China car stock with DCT gb, small displacement Turbocharge engine configuration with 1.5T or 1.6T. Their Premium combo with 2.0T and 8-9 gear auto torque converter.

What a pity Japanese manufacturers cant fight on this and only suffice with CVT gb and single size 1.5T engine throughout all models offered.
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What a pity Japanese manufacturers cant fight on this and only suffice with CVT gb and single size 1.5T engine throughout all models offered.
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bcuz they know many Malaysians will still queue up to buy their cars regardless of gb/engine offered, a sad truth
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yes, thanks to korean, they woke a bit
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Jul 9 2023, 06:04 PM)
Took the chance today to visit showroom for the Omoda 5 here in Alor Setar. The dealer was still new and even the shop sign was still using the previous shop sign (it was a Peugeot branch)  laugh.gif

Anyway, I digress. Saw the Tigo 8 Pro first but my focus was the Omoda 5 which was only available in H variant in dual tone white body and black roof. Unfortunately test drives car need to make an appointment directly with the dealer (despite me registering for one in their main website). So have to suffice with just the display model.

I was greeted by a SA named Bok and he showed me the car and was trying to convince me how Chery was unlike it's previous tenure and how they're trying to change the local perception of the brand. Only time can tell t be honest lol.

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The exterior looks very much nicer in person and the crystal like paint job is a nice touch. I was a bit hesitant about the front bumper look but I have grown to accept it. Side view is very much a sporty SUV with that rear slope line.

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Interior wise is very futuristic and miles ahead from Proton X50 and new HRV. The HU/Driver Display has no creaking noise when touched, so that's good.

I am 175cm Height with my legs being the longest part. Seating position was adjusted to my driving position and thighs were properly supported and driving view is good based on first impressions.

There's a dedicated USB-A port at the safety camera sensor at the top of the windscreen for dashcam. So that's a bonus.
The awkward thing was front passenger gets USB-A and USB-C port but the driver gets a cigarette charging port?  blink.gif

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Rear passengers gets shorter seats but my thighs were still getting support albeit there's still some areas that feel like being afloat. The rear seats are fixed and can't be adjusted to further lean back but it's not too upright like the Bezza or other cars. Rear passengers also get rear air-cond vents. (Please excuse my hairy legs  blush.gif ) thumbsup.gif

The transmission/exhaust pipe hump is not overly big but a middle passenger might not feel comfortable seating there.

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Boot area looks big with a very flat boot lip. Also has a power outlet  thumbup.gif

First impressions overall, it's a very promising car with no real flaws except for their after sales support which only time can tell TBH. Their warranty supports looks good on paper but have to check their T&C first and foremost.

That's all for my first impression. Will update again for my test drive impressions  laugh.gif
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amazing review, like the part, ur legs being the longest part,lol
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jul 17 2023, 04:13 PM)
they can give you 10 years or 1 mil km mileage but when you go and claim cound be a different story
they may honour the defect, but if no spare parts and have to wait months for the repair then what is the point of warranty?
just like proton x70 and x50 initially launched time. many was stranded with cars in work shop for 6 months
or peugeot and some other brands where people have to wait for spare parts for months.

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Yes, that is also another weakness if their spare parts availability is low. If you buy from outside you can get aftermarket options or maybe get china supplier to ship in faster.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2023, 11:21 AM)
China car stock with DCT gb, small displacement Turbocharge engine configuration with 1.5T or 1.6T. Their Premium combo with 2.0T and 8-9 gear auto torque converter.

What a pity Japanese manufacturers cant fight on this and only suffice with CVT gb and single size 1.5T engine throughout all models offered.
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japanese know they cant fight on price or tech anymore with Cina man

so they win in their batch and also for reliability

as the saying goes, ur toyota can drive 20 years still nothing rosak
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jul 17 2023, 06:16 PM)
japanese know they cant fight on price or tech anymore with Cina man

so they win in their batch and also for reliability

as the saying goes, ur toyota can drive 20 years still nothing rosak
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That why they never bother to give a latest engine to our region back then. Keep on getting a same engine but refinement "tuning" words when doubt it really have it. Recent Honda City in Thai get 1.0T while we as usual retain the engine as per previous model.

Back then, we were told our fuel quality so-so by their Japanese head hence cant introduce GDI configuration. Heck, Korean, VW and rest no issues to put that on their engine coming here.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 17 2023, 08:10 PM)
That why they never bother to give a latest engine to our region back then. Keep on getting a same engine but refinement "tuning" words when doubt it really have it. Recent Honda City in Thai get 1.0T while we as usual retain the engine as per previous model.

Back then, we were told our fuel quality so-so by their Japanese head hence cant introduce GDI configuration. Heck, Korean, VW and rest no issues to put that on their engine coming here.
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You never hear VW carbon build up issue before?
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You never hear VW carbon build up issue before?
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Normal for GDI for all model and all will kene for GDI configuration. The latest VW Gen 3 come with both Direct and Port injection hence preventing this deposit. Same as Lexus and new Toyota Camry engine.

Send workshop for rm500 for walnut blasting cleaning then

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That why they never bother to give a latest engine to our region back then. Keep on getting a same engine but refinement "tuning" words when doubt it really have it. Recent Honda City in Thai get 1.0T while we as usual retain the engine as per previous model.

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I'd rather have old technology that's reliable rather than new technology that has potential to break down. Perhaps that may be the reason most Japanese vehicles especially Toyota rarely have breakdowns or major failure in parts and components. Most car manufacturers have offered turbocharged engines as an option to natural aspirated engines but Toyota have stuck with NA and hybrid without any turbocharged option. Everything from engine to gearbox transmission (with Toyota) may be old or ancient technology but it works, and it's quite a refined drive. At least they have dropped the 4-speed transmission for a CVT that had contributed to a more refined acceleration. The power and quick throttle response at low to moderate speeds in real world driving, it's rather good without much to complain.

Chinese vehicles are packed with the latest technology and they are spearheading electric vehicles all over the world. It's all new technology so reliability wise no one can tell but over time it will surely improve, just like NA engines when it all first started back in the day. Someone has to start it and get the ball rolling first, and the Chinese are ahead in this area when compared to conservative Japanese. I believe NA, turbocharged and hybrid engines are currently at the final few stages before they are completely replaced by electric vehicles in the next couple of years so manufacturers may have stopped their R&D on the current(old) tech and start concentrating or advancing the new electric technology which appears to be the global trend now.

Back to the Cherry Omoda 5. It's surely looking good and hopefully it will give the Japanese a run for the money. As I've said earlier it's only after-sales and reliability that are the main concerns but looking at the wonderful early reception with 3000 bookings after few days, looks like the confidence of the people are sky high. Or perhaps the vehicle offers unbeatable value when compared to the competition.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 17 2023, 10:11 PM)
I'd rather have old technology that's reliable rather than new technology that has potential to break down. Perhaps that may be the reason most Japanese vehicles especially Toyota rarely have breakdowns or major failure in parts and components. Most car manufacturers have offered turbocharged engines as an option to natural aspirated engines but Toyota have stuck with NA and hybrid without any turbocharged option. Everything from engine to gearbox transmission (with Toyota) may be old or ancient technology but it works, and it's quite a refined drive. At least they have dropped the 4-speed transmission for a CVT that had contributed to a more refined acceleration. The power and quick throttle response at low to moderate speeds in real world driving, it's rather good without much to complain.

Chinese vehicles are packed with the latest technology and they are spearheading electric vehicles all over the world. It's all new technology so reliability wise no one can tell but over time it will surely improve, just like NA engines when it all first started back in the day. Someone has to start it and get the ball rolling first, and the Chinese are ahead in this area when compared to conservative Japanese. I believe NA, turbocharged and hybrid engines are currently at the final few stages before they are completely replaced by electric vehicles in the next couple of years so manufacturers may have stopped their R&D on the current(old) tech and start concentrating or advancing the new electric technology which appears to be the global trend now.

Back to the Cherry Omoda 5. It's surely looking good and hopefully it will give the Japanese a run for the money. As I've said earlier it's only after-sales and reliability that are the main concerns but looking at the wonderful early reception with 3000 bookings after few days, looks like the confidence of the people are sky high. Or perhaps the vehicle offers unbeatable value when compared to the competition.
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Back then yes there are many like u, its ok old tech, old engine, old gb but it is reliable. That why UMW be like TQ to all, they can keep old stock parts to our region. Back then I mean circa 2008-2015 era, even Airbag also cut to 2 while rival already went to 6.

Now with power of online, youtube, some manufacturers keep giving good features, thats teach masses about new tech on car and safety in general. People no longer like UMW spec car (check their most car sales vs rival here). At abroad is different story cz Toyota give good features cz no UMW. This case see Altis vs Mazda 3 and Civic sales here.

Those China car company will make new attraction to the masses in the future due to overwhelmed features, new tech and can give DCT gb for relatively affordable car price range. Hopefully those Japanese can step up their games and put good features here.


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Back then yes there are many like u, its ok old tech, old engine, old gb but it is reliable. That why UMW be like TQ to all, they can keep old stock parts to our region. Back then I mean circa 2008-2015 era, even Airbag also cut to 2 while rival already went to 6.

Now with power of online,  youtube, some manufacturers keep giving good features, thats teach masses about new tech on car and safety in general. People no longer like UMW spec car (check their most car sales vs rival here). At abroad is different story cz Toyota give good features cz no UMW. This case see Altis vs Mazda 3 and Civic sales here.

Those China car company will make new attraction to the masses in the future due to overwhelmed features, new tech and can give DCT gb for relatively affordable car price range. Hopefully those Japanese can step up their games and put good features here.
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I somewhat agree. However, the message I'm trying to convey particularly on "old technology" with NA engines is they may have reached a plateau since electric driven vehicles will be taking over soon. The technology of NA engine is already matured and in my view, not much to improve upon. With regards to other new tech or fancy features that are available in other cars that are not available in Toyota, that I'm not sure but I don't look at those things too much. As far as I things are concerned, it's already complete in terms of driving aids and safety features. I didn't check on the sales figures but the higher sales of Honda and Mazda vs low sales of Toyota may be due to other factors such as interior or exterior design of the vehicle, more powerful engines and different handling characteristics etc. rather than features or new technology. I'm not sure what features and technology are you referring to though.
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Make sure if u upgrade from a 2 airbag car get at least 4 to 6 airbag for your next car

Will save your lots of pain if u accident

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i think it is certainly a trade-off for the price that you pay for a Chery-branded vehicle vs reputable brands within the same segment and price range.

what Chery is basically doing is eating into Proton, Toyota and Honda's pie share - every unit of Omada sold equates to a loss for either of the brands. this is no easy feat for a new brand with almost-zero presence here, and knowing that Malaysian consumers are very price sensitive, the Omada does present a good-value-for-money product that will definitely distrupt the B segment market.

what remains to be seen is the durability and after-sales service like many here has brought up as well. it remains to be seen how will Chery Malaysia control and regulate the showrooms and service centres in Malaysia - until then, from an aesthetic and functionality point of view, the car does look good and the value that it offers really blows every brand out of the water.

now only for the next thing to do, test drive it tongue.gif

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i think it is certainly a trade-off for the price that you pay for a Chery-branded vehicle vs reputable brands within the same segment and price range.

what Chery is basically doing is eating into Proton, Toyota and Honda's pie share - every unit of Omada sold equates to a loss for either of the brands. this is no easy feat for a new brand with almost-zero presence here, and knowing that Malaysian consumers are very price sensitive, the Omada does present a good-value-for-money product that will definitely distrupt the B segment market.

what remains to be seen is the durability and after-sales service like many here has brought up as well. it remains to be seen how will Chery Malaysia control and regulate the showrooms and service centres in Malaysia - until then, from an aesthetic and functionality point of view, the car does look good and the value that it offers really blows every brand out of the water.

now only for the next thing to do, test drive it tongue.gif
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Tempted to try their 2.0T with 7 gear DCT. How it react. If for Geely Proton, their DCT kinda slower for reliability they said, need to see on Chery.
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dont think mainstream brand like T or H will be affected much. most likely koreans or french brands. good not good enough. cheap not cheap enough
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the cycle i think goes around the world..
japanese car seems to reach its peak and spending more money on R&D seems to be least priority than to sustain the current market situation. rumors said that Camry will no longer be sold in Japan itself?
now, chinese car makers has been very positive especially on the EV markets. in china itself, the competition is so great that numerous brands has evolved and their design are very "new" and aggressive.
they are also competing with toyota and tesla to produce the best battery with the longest distance.
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https://<link removed>/2023/03/27/toyota-camry...er-43-year-run/

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After 43 years, Toyota will stop selling the Camry in Japan by the end of 2023. This is due to poor sales of the D-segment sedan in its home market, with only 6,000 units leaving dealerships last year. At present, the Camry is priced between 3.495 and 4.682 million yen (RM118,404 and RM158,618) in Japan, although most dealers have already stopped taking orders, reports Nikkei Asia.

While production of the Camry will cease for domestic customers, the model will still be made in Japan for export markets where it will continue to be sold – the sedan is also produced in the United States, China as well as Thailand.

The Camry got its name from the Japanese word “kanmuri” meaning “crown,” and since its debut in 1980, about 1.3 millions have been sold in Japan. In addition to Japan, the model sells in over 100 countries, with more than 21 million units purchased cumulatively through the end of 2022.

Despite the end of the Camry in its home market, Toyota will still sell the Corolla, Corolla Axio, Century, Mirai, Prius as well as the liftback-esque all-new Crown. These days, customers there are leaning in more on SUVs and minivans, which further reduces the demand for sedans. In 2022, Nissan discontinued the Fuga, a year after Honda stopped making the Legend.


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Guys. I have try this omada car, and is so happen I accelerate and there is a car come out so I try to brake (not until emergency type) but after putting some pressure into brake pedal, the brake suddenly have another round of braking (it feel like the brake pedals gonna broke off) type , and when I mention to the sales person , he say this is adas braking take place . Is anyone can confirm ? Is all car equip with adas also having this kind is scenario when happen in emergency brake ?
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Guys. I have try this omada car, and is so happen I accelerate and there is a car come out so I try to brake (not until emergency type) but after putting some pressure into brake pedal, the brake suddenly have another round of braking (it feel like the brake pedals gonna broke off) type , and when I mention to the sales person , he say this is adas braking take place . Is anyone can confirm ? Is all car equip with adas also having this kind is scenario when happen in emergency brake ?
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yes for adas function, believe got a notification on the dashboard meter. If the system detects the car is near, it will braking for u. Example my officemate doing a zig zag cut from right-left-right lane due to lane hogger, suddently the adas pull some brake for him.

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After 43 years, Toyota will stop selling the Camry in Japan by the end of 2023. This is due to poor sales of the D-segment sedan in its home market, with only 6,000 units leaving dealerships last year. At present, the Camry is priced between 3.495 and 4.682 million yen (RM118,404 and RM158,618) in Japan, although most dealers have already stopped taking orders, reports Nikkei Asia.

While production of the Camry will cease for domestic customers, the model will still be made in Japan for export markets where it will continue to be sold – the sedan is also produced in the United States, China as well as Thailand.

The Camry got its name from the Japanese word “kanmuri” meaning “crown,” and since its debut in 1980, about 1.3 millions have been sold in Japan. In addition to Japan, the model sells in over 100 countries, with more than 21 million units purchased cumulatively through the end of 2022.

Despite the end of the Camry in its home market, Toyota will still sell the Corolla, Corolla Axio, Century, Mirai, Prius as well as the liftback-esque all-new Crown. These days, customers there are leaning in more on SUVs and minivans, which further reduces the demand for sedans. In 2022, Nissan discontinued the Fuga, a year after Honda stopped making the Legend.
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Still waiting for Chery to update on their maintenance package for the Omoda 5. So far, the local dealer here has finished furnishing their shop. Not yet for their service centres maybe inline for their September delivery date.
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wrv RS and O5 H is just 10k diff, any thought?
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QUOTE(rumahwip @ Jul 20 2023, 12:29 PM)
wrv RS and O5 H is just 10k diff, any thought?
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If u had experience with HM model, I believe most will jump to other brand. Somemore a just tiny NA engine with rm100k price is overpriced too much
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 20 2023, 12:35 PM)
If u had experience with HM model, I believe most will jump to other brand. Somemore a just tiny NA engine with rm100k price is overpriced too much
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why?
is overprice but ppl still buy
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QUOTE(rumahwip @ Jul 20 2023, 02:14 PM)
why?
is overprice but ppl still buy
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NVH poor, just slightly above P2, roof side sound like P2 Viva when rain, outside sound clearly hear. Not to mentioned the rattling sound inside the door trim and recently steering rack issues.

U try SC claim all above, they said either factory QC already accepted it or they have done, but no changes whatsoever

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 20 2023, 02:25 PM)
NVH poor, just slightly above P2, roof side sound like P2 Viva when rain, outside sound clearly hear. Not to mentioned the rattling sound inside the door trim and recently steering rack issues.

U try SC claim all above, they said either factory QC already accepted it or they have done, but no changes whatsoever
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which SC u went to?
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QUOTE(rumahwip @ Jul 20 2023, 02:43 PM)
which SC u went to?
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SC Semenyih, Global Amity Bangi and 4S Sg Long Kajang. In the end the New Era SC Jalan Semenyih is one that helps me with many warranty claims. I have claimed 3 times for my Driveshaft and 1 time driver side mirror there as well as repaired the rattling for the gear lever area. They said reopen, checking and install back.

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QUOTE(rumahwip @ Jul 20 2023, 12:29 PM)
wrv RS and O5 H is just 10k diff, any thought?
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i'd hold off from omoda until at least the service centre has opened at least > 5 in KV .

as of now only 1 SC servicing whole KV? goodluck https://www.chery.my/dealer-locator/#
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 20 2023, 03:29 PM)
SC Semenyih, Global Amity Bangi and 4S Sg Long Kajang. In the end the New Era SC Jalan Semenyih is one that helps me with many warranty claims. I have claimed 3 times for my Driveshaft and 1 time driver side mirror there as well as repaired the rattling for the gear lever area. They said reopen, checking and install back.
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wow, kesian, u trade in ur honda for O5?
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jul 20 2023, 03:41 PM)
i'd hold off from omoda until at least the service centre has opened at least > 5 in KV .

as of now only 1 SC servicing whole KV? goodluck https://www.chery.my/dealer-locator/#
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QUOTE(rumahwip @ Jul 20 2023, 03:50 PM)
wow, kesian, u trade in ur honda for O5?
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QUOTE(rumahwip @ Jul 20 2023, 03:52 PM)
got 6 mah in KV
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dealer can service as well? if yes than my bad
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 20 2023, 03:52 PM)
nope atm
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which honda model, if u dont mind?
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jul 20 2023, 03:52 PM)
dealer can service as well? if yes than my bad
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which honda model, if u dont mind?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 19 2023, 09:20 AM)
yes for adas function, believe got a notification on the dashboard meter. If the system detects the car is near, it will braking for u. Example my officemate doing a zig zag cut from right-left-right lane due to lane hogger, suddently the adas pull some brake for him.
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The adas kick in make me feel like the braking system gonna fail me . Probably I need to test drive few more times . I have drive for past 10 years , never have such situation before . But anyway thaks for the confirmation . 😄
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In 2012 Chery went into a 50:50 joint venture with the Jaguar Land Rover Group (the first Sino-British joint venture for high-end automobiles in China) to produce vehicles (Evoque Land Evoque Plug- In Hybrid, Discovery Sport and Plug-In Hybrid, Jaguar XF-L, Jaguar XE-L, Jaguar XE-L, and Jaguar E-Pace model family) and Ingenium engines for the China market at the Changshu production.

Fast forward the rigid modular T1X chassis with fully independent suspension is the base of new Chery Tiggo 8 Pro models, which was developed with Jaguar Land Rover technology and influence, together with the Bosch ten-in-one ESP 9.3 control systems.

The Chery DCT was developed by the company in partnership with GETRAG, the world’s top supplier of automobile transmission and drive systems.

GETRAG, on the other hand, makes DCTs for a vast number of car brands and models: BMW (for the M3 and Z4), Chery (on both the turbocharged Tiggo 7 and 7-seater Tiggo 8), Chrysler, Ferrari, Ford, Mercedes-Benz, Mitsubishi (for the Lancer Evo X), Peugeot, Renault and Volvo.

With 105,483 units sold in December, Chery has now delivered a record-breaking 1,232,727 units globally in 2022. The figure represents a 28.2% increase over the previous year, and it’s also breached the one-million-unit mark for the first time for Chery – which they’ve already achieved since October 2022.
The figure also includes 451,337 units (67.7% increase over 2021) of export sales, which accounted for 36.6% of the brand’s total deliveries last year. Not only is that a record-breaking annual figure for Chery, the performance also helped the marque remain at the top of Chinese passenger car exports for the 20th year in a row.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chery_Jaguar_Land_Rover

https://c-magazine.com/vehicle-reviews/comparo/chery-picking

https://www.carguide.ph/2022/05/chery-auto-...iggo-8.html?m=1

https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releas...ct-hits-market/

https://wheels.ph/featured/2020/03/31/15154...nd-tiggo-8/?amp

https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releas...porter-october/

https://autobuzz.my/2023/01/18/chery-sold-1...straight-years/

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Last week SA say those booked before launching may get Sept only.. to me better let them take their time to fine tune things rather than rushing to deliver..
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hi anyone know why this omada 5 have turbo delay ?
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CM already released maintenance packaged for OM5 and can see how they trap you in with the extended engine warranty. Spark plug change every 30K KM. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Jul 29 2023, 06:57 PM)
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CM already released maintenance packaged for OM5 and can see how they trap you in with the extended engine warranty. Spark plug change every 30K KM.  icon_idea.gif
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All except 1 time, less than rm1k services.
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CM already released maintenance packaged for OM5 and can see how they trap you in with the extended engine warranty. Spark plug change every 30K KM.  icon_idea.gif
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It's considered to be fairly cheap already. The maintenance of Proton Preve Turbo is even higher. The major service is RM1.6k, the minor service all around the same price or slightly higher than the one published. Can't really see clearly as the text are in low resolution but if I read it correctly it's all in the range of few hundred ringgit only RM300 to 700 which is quite low.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 29 2023, 11:10 PM)
It's considered to be fairly cheap already. The maintenance of Proton Preve Turbo is even higher. The major service is RM1.6k, the minor service all around the same price or slightly higher than the one published. Can't really see clearly as the text are in low resolution but if I read it correctly it's all in the range of few hundred ringgit only RM300 to 700 which is quite low.
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jul 30 2023, 12:45 AM)
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Only 1 time rm1k rest below rm1k. Your points?
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Only 1 time rm1k rest below rm1k. Your points?
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huh? just informing him how to see high reso?
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...Spark plug change every 30K KM.  icon_idea.gif
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160 should not be of iridium type which they should have used for 100k service interval.
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CM already released maintenance packaged for OM5 and can see how they trap you in with the extended engine warranty. Spark plug change every 30K KM.  icon_idea.gif
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Maintenance looks reasonable as compared to Peugeot 408 engine
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QUOTE(Acoen @ Jul 30 2023, 05:48 PM)
Maintenance looks reasonable as compared to Peugeot 408 engine
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I presume Perodua has the cheapest maintenance, possibly followed by Proton as the 2nd lowest. However, it may depend on the vehicle model also though but having owned the Proton Preve Turbo, this Chery Omoda 5's maintenance looks cheaper than the Proton Preve Turbo if following the table as posted above. Cars with turbo engines may have slightly higher maintenance than those with NA engines. The cost of major maintenance of the Preve Turbo was RM1.6k+ while with the Omoda 5, it's only RM1194 which is the highest at the moment.
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jul 30 2023, 12:45 AM)
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Thanks for the tip. Didn't try clicking on the picture previously as I clicked on the table but it didn't load.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 31 2023, 11:39 AM)
I presume Perodua has the cheapest maintenance, possibly followed by Proton as the 2nd lowest. However, it may depend on the vehicle model also though but having owned the Proton Preve Turbo, this Chery Omoda 5's maintenance looks cheaper than the Proton Preve Turbo if following the table as posted above. Cars with turbo engines may have slightly higher maintenance than those with NA engines. The cost of major maintenance of the Preve Turbo was RM1.6k+ while with the Omoda 5, it's only RM1194 which is the highest at the moment.
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Most expansive maintenance remain with VW even though with 15k km interval. Their major service at rm4k and rm6k depending on model
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Jul 29 2023, 06:57 PM)
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CM already released maintenance packaged for OM5 and can see how they trap you in with the extended engine warranty. Spark plug change every 30K KM.  icon_idea.gif
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change spark plug every 30k, change air filter every 20k...

i wonder if there's any option to opt out during service sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 31 2023, 11:53 AM)
Most expansive maintenance remain with VW even though with 15k km interval. Their major service at rm4k and rm6k depending on model
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I see. RM4k to 6k seems to be quite damaging. If that's the case the minor service would be around RM1k to 2k which is quite a lot. Certainly not cheap to maintain even when it's new! When it gets older and out of warranty, it gets even more expensive to maintain I guess. Much worse than Fords I guess.

I presume it's 15,000 km or 6 months whichever comes first? I don't think many people will use up 15k km within 6 months. For me, the longest mileage I've clocked for 6 months is probably 2500 km, surely below 3000km.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jul 31 2023, 12:09 PM)
I see. RM4k to 6k seems to be quite damaging. If that's the case the minor service would be around RM1k to 2k which is quite a lot. Certainly not cheap to maintain even when it's new! When it gets older and out of warranty, it gets even more expensive to maintain I guess. Much worse than Fords I guess.

I presume it's 15,000 km or 6 months whichever comes first? I don't think many people will use up 15k km within 6 months. For me, the longest mileage I've clocked for 6 months is probably 2500 km, surely below 3000km.
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Per annual. But most owner i found send it outside for eo change at outside on 6 months, 8k km. So 8k km and 15k km at sc

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any1 notices O5 uses more engine oil than T8 albeit smaller cc
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any1 notices O5 uses more engine oil than T8 albeit smaller cc
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From where?
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Polestar shows China car can really be fantastic (China software+manufacturing, Scandinavian design, racing DNA).

Sadly the real good China car don't come in Malaysia.

All we got are the econobox driving dynamics/handling/tuning packaged in fancy exterior/interior, then call themselves premium and market leading (遥遥领先).

Premium is not giant screen, fancy infotainment, ambient light, dancing headlight, auto park

We need something with actual temperament, to break the status quo.






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I don't know why but to me, this car seems out of proportion.

The design cutting seems off... thus making it look ugly in my opinion.
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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Dec 20 2023, 02:05 PM)
All we got are the econobox driving dynamics/handling/tuning packaged in fancy exterior/interior, then call themselves premium and market leading (遥遥领先).

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well....when the mass market models' mark is not high, the mark of premium is this market really just meh....
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 22 2023, 02:26 PM)
I don't know why but to me, this car seems out of proportion.

The design cutting seems off... thus making it look ugly in my opinion.
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its the wheel size i think

i doesnt match with the sharp design
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 22 2023, 05:08 PM)
its the wheel size i think

i doesnt match with the sharp design
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Also, the front fender is like sticking out too much.. looks weird and ugly.

However, I am sure they will improve on the design as China vehicle design is fast improving.
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well....when the mass market models' mark is not high, the mark of premium is this market really just meh....
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Yea, especially when the mass market view the cosmetic fancy as premium, and don't give the damn about driving quality and intrinsic values of a car.

This is what we ended up with.

There are other reviews of Polestar 4, one of them said how many will pay premium for the real driving quality that people can't see/show off to their relatives/friends?

We can imagine if Chery going to make 300-400k premium car, it gotta be paper sheet spamming.

Money can't buy class.
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 22 2023, 02:26 PM)
I don't know why but to me, this car seems out of proportion.

The design cutting seems off... thus making it look ugly in my opinion.
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I find it okay except the huge front grill. Guess the EV version shall look nicer.
It seems larger than HRV, may be due to the big wheels.
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QUOTE(hjack @ Dec 22 2023, 10:57 PM)
I find it okay except the huge front grill. Guess the EV version shall look nicer.
It seems larger than HRV, may be due to the big wheels.
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You have to observe from the behind where the car's blind spot is..

Then you will know..

Not to mention the rim colour tone.. black and red.. yucks. Looks like a clown to me.

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You have to observe from the behind where the car's blind spot is..

Then you will know..
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You mean this,

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Or this?

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Both look okay to me.

This is which I kind of hard to accept... LOL

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QUOTE(hjack @ Dec 23 2023, 11:51 AM)
You mean this,

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Or this?

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Both look okay to me.

This is which I kind of hard to accept... LOL

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Agree with you that the front grille looks damn ugly..

What I mean is the fender sticks way too out.. which makes the cars out of porportion.

If you walk closer towards the left, it is even more pronounced.

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I think colour plays a role also

The white is ugly but the dark grey actually looks better for this car
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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Dec 22 2023, 10:22 PM)

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well....at least money buys a G class laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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