Chery (also Changan, GWM etc) as a whole is a company that do only car assembly, lack of car R&D. They buy off the shelves components, hire some art designer and put things together.
The one area they are ahead of market, is ambient lights and infotainment screen size.

Imagine P2 without platform/engines design from Daihatsu, what would it be? Yes, reverse engineering and copy cat.

Ride and Handling, take thousands, hundred thousands of hours of road testing. See how Hyundai test their car these days, and it is reflected in the current products.

They also buy off the shelves electronics, ABC, TC, ESP and implement the vanilla algorithm from the suppliers. Again missing the tuning and road testing. If you can read mandarin, checkout reviews from inside China great firewall, all kind of funny stories.

Down to the basic like brake bias, how to size the front vs rear brake.

Basically due to 2 reasons. First they've been focus on 3rd world low cost market. It doesn't transition overnight. Second, China mostly city driving, they rarely drive past 80km/h, if you've been there, speed trap every 100-200m on some roads.

Overall, I would avoid these companies until they started to invest in motorsport like Geely (via Lynk & Co, Cyan Racing), and Hyundai (N).
If they do determined to change and improves to be a proper car makers with real R&D, it would take 10-15 years, that's how long Geely/Hyundai taken to transform themselves. But in current stage, I didn't see the effort yet.

This post has been edited by constant_weight: Jun 26 2023, 10:35 AM

Yes, absolutely right. This is another concern.

Condition of Chery Tinggo 8 on 10 Mar 2023. The car was bought 3 Sep 2020. Less than 3 years car

https://m.12365auto.com/zlts/20230616/939101.shtml









This post has been edited by constant_weight: Jul 7 2023, 11:54 AM

Tiggo 8 also coming into Malaysia. 2020 vs new car still same generation, just facelift cosmetic.

If same suppliers, same factory... just sharing lah, each buyer make their own judgement.

Each buyer can hope those made outside China (here, also those sold in Australia) have better quality, since we are more transparent, and better regulated countries.

This post has been edited by constant_weight: Jul 7 2023, 12:03 PM

Polestar shows China car can really be fantastic (China software+manufacturing, Scandinavian design, racing DNA).

Sadly the real good China car don't come in Malaysia.

All we got are the econobox driving dynamics/handling/tuning packaged in fancy exterior/interior, then call themselves premium and market leading (遥遥领先).

Premium is not giant screen, fancy infotainment, ambient light, dancing headlight, auto park

We need something with actual temperament, to break the status quo.






This post has been edited by constant_weight: Dec 20 2023, 02:08 PM

Yea, especially when the mass market view the cosmetic fancy as premium, and don't give the damn about driving quality and intrinsic values of a car.

This is what we ended up with.

There are other reviews of Polestar 4, one of them said how many will pay premium for the real driving quality that people can't see/show off to their relatives/friends?

We can imagine if Chery going to make 300-400k premium car, it gotta be paper sheet spamming.

Money can't buy class.