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post Oct 22 2007, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Oct 22 2007, 07:18 AM)
different people interprets things in a different way, no right or wrong...

i find his books very informative, the thing that you'll figure out eventually is he simplified a lot of stuff and a lot of things a kinda too perfect but again, its a great book to actually change your mindset from following the conventional way of investing...
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Well said, Kenji thumbup.gif

at the end of the day, his book actually encourages ppl to actually DO something to change their lives. That IMO, is the most important thing. There arent many books out there that have similar impact nowadays, so kudo's to Kiyosaki on this.
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post Oct 22 2007, 02:57 PM

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Know Your Unit Trust Investment by Jeffrey Gan

i think this book quite suitable for those just new to investment... It tell you what type of investment we have. What industries we have for equity.. blahblahblah... Its a simple, easy understanding book... Try to look for it... Good Luck yawn.gif)
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post Oct 22 2007, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Oct 22 2007, 02:42 AM)
You should take what Robert Kiyosaki says in his books with a huge grain of salt. His books can be very misleading by re-defining the meanings of basic terms like debt, asset, liability...

Read these first before you really believe everything R. Kiyosaki wrote:
http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html
http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2006/...saki-is-a-liar/

I know it's a very long article, but I just want you guys to be careful before following Rich Dad Poor Dad's advice blindly.
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I've read those before and if you read a lot of user's feedback on john reed's column; you'll find some rather astonishing and amusing stories. I would term them as "stupid". Couple of them post their failures because they just go all out without first anlysing whether or not the strategy suits them or the market.
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Dear Mr. Reed:

I would like to request that if you post this anywhere, please do not use my name.

I was first given a copy of Rich Dad, Poor Dad by my father in law who had received it from his ex-girlfriend. Since this book was coming from a man that is quite comfortable in his finances, I took it seriously.

After reading the book, I quit a job where I was making a decent salary as an engineer and then proceeded to waste the next two years of my life. Since Kiyosaki says that it is so easy to run a business and make money, I figured that I would be rich in no time. Unfortunately, after losing more than $30K trying to start up my easy income, I've gotten nowhere. What I can't believe is how there are people out there that call this a good book. There is nothing good about it. It is propaganda for a mass majority that is desperately trying to cling to something. People that are trying to blame everybody else for their problems. People that want to understand why they have nothing, yet fail to see that the Mercedes Benz is not helping them at all. Kiyosaki is full of crap, he oversimplifies things and says absolutely nothing. Too bad I figured this out too late. My only salvation is that I'm still in my twenties and have plenty of time to make up for the money that I lost. Thankfully, I've recently found a job in my old line of work at about the same salary as before. This guy is dangerous; because of his stupid advice, I actually lost two years of income, lost an extra $30K, and almost got divorced.
Name withheld by request


Again, ppl should judge which strategy suits them the best.
Same can be said regarding John Reed which how other ppl supporting him are calling Kiyosaki names. Especially on how some labeled Kiyosaki as funding himself by selling books and dreams to everyone.

For eg, when one read a property investment book (a lot are coming from the states) doesn't meant that the property investment skills and strategy can be applied here in M'sia. But if one learns to read between the lines and analyse it; it might be useful.

I would say a lot have benefited from RDPD series though I've read only 1 which is on "MLM" (half way through) and I tend not to like it; not because of the strategy itself, but I myself am not a salesperson even though it preaches that everyone can a salesperson. But there are points and philosophies in there which I agreed to.
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post Oct 22 2007, 04:49 PM

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Book still is a book, theory is just a theory.
Books are best to be used as reference to widen your knowledge and view, which is the most importance of it, it is not meant to get some 'tips' of how to become rich.
It is not mean that what all insides are 100% true or 100% false. You need to use your knowledge to analyse, to justify or to determine whether it is applicable or not. Sometimes, reading through books also can get some inspiration of businesses or investment idea also.

But none of it should be followed blindly.

A lot of things are simplied to give as example, real business world or investment world are more complicated than that.
Just like people said invest in real estate sure make money one, (I think this is the major misconception in the market as almost everyone said so, but putting in FD, your FD also surely make money every year, right? but none of us or less people said so.) If property return rate is 7% per annum while FD interest also 7%, but still people will choose property be because of mis-conception as mentioned.
Just like in discussing in property subforum, a lot of expenses is not taking in as consideration for the like maintenance of houses, expenses spent, but people just look at the initial buying price and final selling price to determine and conclude property surely gain money one.

Don't get me wrong, reading through these books is benefitting for anyone, as you will have a broaden view in every aspect of it and can take a look at a bigger picture which may prompt one to make a more wiseful decision.


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post Oct 23 2007, 12:37 AM

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Good point you guys have.
I just want make aware of other opinions about his books.

If his books inspire and motivate you, then I'm sure they are good stuff for you. It's just my personal opinion that I don't trust what Kiyosaki writes.

By all means read his books and take the good, filter the crap.
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If you're interested in long term investment, The Four Pillars of Invesment by William Bernstein is a good start.

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post Jan 4 2008, 12:58 AM

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reli thanks for all the info... i've started on some books. but then again...i find it abit hard for me to learn as i still have alot of theory that i do not understand...
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Jan 4 2008, 12:58 AM)
reli thanks for all the info... i've started on some books. but then again...i find it abit hard for me to learn as i still have alot of theory that i do not understand...
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slow slow lorr ^.^ at least u r far better from some of us coz u got learn d ab accountin..
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post Jan 4 2008, 01:41 PM

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post Jan 4 2008, 02:40 PM

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Try 'The Dummies' series.
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Oct 19 2007, 03:44 AM)
I'm a degree student majoring in banking and finance. currently i'm very interested in stock market and investment. however, wat i'm learning in college is insufficient to teach me how to start investing. i'm very excited to learn more to analyze the stock market and investment technique. so any recommendation of books that i can refer to??? i'm just a beginner level.  blush.gif
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You can try this book, give you basic ideas on share investment. Calculate Financial figures such as ROE, D/E, PER, intrinsic & fair value.

Ho Kok Mun, author of How to Make Money from Your Stock Investment even in the Failing Market.

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post Jan 4 2008, 09:54 PM

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for stock market, recommend you the following book which can direct apply to msia market:

1) i love stock - Pauline Yong
http://www.mph.com.my/search/nsearch.cfm?d...code=9834212429

2) How to Make Money from Your Stock Investment Even in a Falling Market - Ho Kok Mun
http://www.mph.com.my/search/nsearch.cfm?d...code=983378903X

3) Essential Stock Investment Strategies to Make Money Even in a Falling Market (Revised Edition)
http://www.mph.com.my/search/nsearch.cfm?d...code=9833789137

in addition you may want to browse bursa malaysia page at http://www.klse.com.my/ for annual report and announcement by listed company. in order to understand annual report, you need to read book no.1 which teach you the most basic thing about malaysia stock. thanks
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You can try this book I got from the library, a very old book that is based on the Malaysian stock market and a little bit on Singapore stock market as well. Informative and good for beginners.

Stock Market Investment in Malaysia and Singapore - Neoh Soon Kean
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:38 AM

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Some good investment books presented in "story" format:
Beating the Street - Peter Lynch
One up on Wall Street - Peter Lynch
Some of the Warren Buffet biographies.
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post Jan 12 2008, 09:06 AM

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i have a question. To learn investment, we need to read only the latest book? or it doesnt reli matter, as old books method also can apply in todays world? i am just wondering because as we all know, the world now is changing rapidly...
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QUOTE(calistachan @ Jan 12 2008, 09:06 AM)
i have a question. To learn investment, we need to read only the latest book? or it doesnt reli matter, as old books method also can apply in todays world? i am just wondering because as we all know, the world now is changing rapidly...
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You will notice new books will also apply the methods in the old books. But with a more vibrant way of explaining and how the old methods can be applied to the new markets. While older books tend to talk about past booms and busts, the new books will reflect the newest booms and bust. For example, a book written before 1990 would concentrate it's analysis on why the stock market crash during 1987. But a book written in 2001 will discuss more on the the crash of 1997 with reference of similiarities to crash of 1987.

While the newer books will have a more in-depth analysis of the recent events, past events are more for reference and will not be discussed or analysed as detailed as the recent events. Although most books will quote a reference guide of older books for the reader if they wish to know more about past events.

In my opinion, read everything you can to learn about anything. There is no such thing as 1 book that will answer all your questions, no one solution to all yoru problems and no one strategy to trade in the market.
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post Jan 13 2008, 02:21 AM

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haha...okok. thanks skiddtrader. just that you see, we reli got alot of warm and friendly members here. they list down a bunch of books and references for me... and i dunno which 1 to read 1st.... but i will try my best to gain as much knowledge as i can....
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post Jan 14 2008, 11:46 PM

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I still read some of my old investment books like "Capital Ideas from Peter Bernstain" even he has a 2nd version of it...

I find it totally amazing...
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post Jan 17 2008, 12:09 PM

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I know of this guy who have many collection of e-books on investment, motivation and others..

You can ask him to send to you.

http://setapak.connecton9.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15
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post Jan 18 2008, 05:47 PM

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i start looking really har to my daily finance after reading azizi ali book-
millionnaire in me
millionnaires are from different planet

then i got motivated to invest in stock market after reading Fool's book
Motley fool investment guide
you have more than what you think.. 2nd motley book
you cant find'em in normal bookstore. i found them in 'pay less book' shops.
Really great basics for stock market.. but some chapters are non applicable to Malaysia

then another one basic book u should read is pauline yong's book:
i love stock

then better read some other articles in internet.. you'll gain knowledge as well as learn about other's mistake


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