It will cost more to self-develop an MPA
no, you can't just mount shit on top
it's like saying "haha I just buy car subcomponents pasang on my kereta kerbau voila national car"

anyway atreyuangel probably pissed cause no P-8

strangely thats what happens. sell as cots

same thing happen with king air. same thing happen with cn235.

i thought they bought it to shoot the rainbow with glitters?

i tot msia no money...

Forced to spend to counter China 9 dash line otherwise one day Tioman also within some CCP drawn line.

malaysia eez is huge. scs alone need at least 3 aircraft to patrol. then need to consider sulu sea and malacca strait oso

oso if you want to maintain at least one plane one in the sky at any given time, I need 3 aircraft; one flying, one on service, one on the ready to fly out.

the plan for tudm is to get 3 mpa this rmk and then topup another 3 next rmk but since ringgit gone to shit it was cut to 2

all these mpa(cn235, atr-72, the turkish ucav) will be used to patrol scs while sulu sea and malacca strait they will continue to use helo and smaller uav or even dji commercial drone

all this because of ccp military build up

force us to spend more on military

if china is truly our friend they wont put military at our doorstep

Not bad, but MPA is best comes with fresh frame. Plus MPA frames will be strengthen due to its nature of operating long hours in the open sea. Even the engine is not the same with the normal commercial specifications.

Long due,
If I am the top of the command I will prioritise MPA and AEW any days

2 unit dulu pun ok +3 conversion and there is a possibility addition in the future if we play our card right with Uncle Sam.

Has china donated any military equipment to Malaysia?

If you play your cards right with Uncle you can get whatever you want at wholesale prices

Monitor apa lancau when vietcong, caina commies been stealing our fishes and harrassing our oil rig daily?

Wumao counted?

Install rollcage to strengthen chassis like some ppl mod car

Mod car and moto culture is strong in Malaysia

Should apply to planes also. Don't let that rempit and ah beng experience go to waste.

I belip our budget limitations always make us think our of box and become mcguvyer . Other rich neighbour everything must follow SOP and manufacturer.....to me if buy russki thing , don't need care much about manufacturer because they also don't provide good support, is like buy AP parallel import car and go bawah pokok mechanic.

Unless buy US plane .... Then is like buying official distributor car

Btw patrol also need high stress? isn't patrol like cruising at commercial flight speed?

I saw the Lima su 30mkm flying I was wondering if the chassis willl Tahan how long .., ayam impressed though. It's like bending air at will. Got metal fatigue rite. Pilot body got damage also? If everyday fly like that will mati ? Got such thing as red t and black out? Like too much blood in head because you are nosediving , then blood rush to brain and u see red...

Then blackout if u r climbing and blood goes to legs?

Too many questions but I find it Too fascinating.but tom cruise movie should have made use of this interesting phenomenon....

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: May 29 2023, 11:16 AM

Cukup la. Consider F/A 18 just 8 unit.
Sukhoi just 18 unit.

Tu pun bodoh
At a certain level you need numbers, not just to look good but because of key factors like fuel capacity ie flight time, maintenance hours, availability, etc

p.s. we got those Sukhois cheap because USSR collapsed

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: May 29 2023, 11:19 AM

Zergling rush Vs protoss zealot. Who will win.

In era of dogfight numbers win ? Because 2v 1, a plane can only target one enemy and the other enemy chase him from behind.

but now not too sure since it's BVR

Sauce I play ace combat 4 in 2002. Either that game too easy or I am expert pilot level./s

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: May 29 2023, 11:22 AM

Duit pun xada la bang.. Bukan xnak beli banyak2. Bukan sebab all key factors juga.
Subsidi pun cut. Skrg ni kerajaan tambah hutang just utk yearly budget, bukan sebab income naik or new tax.

Daripada langsung xada. 2 pun cukup.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: May 29 2023, 11:20 AM

I think we should forget about US plane.
They donwan sell us plane.
Last LCA tender, they invited but not submit any bid.
Kuwait used F/A18, no green light from USA too.
Historically no talk about F15 or F16 too. F35/F22 just in dream.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: May 29 2023, 11:25 AM

when it comes to fighters, a certain number is required because of calculations of readiness, speed, training time, and how much airspace you intend to cover.

Norwegians for example bit the bullet and broke bank for 64 F-35s based on detailed wargames of how many they needed to cover their country. They burst their budget (originally could only fit about fifty) but deemed it militarily necessary based on the results.
Now, Norway is long, thin country, about 1800km from one end to the other

UK is another example; their air defence requirement is for 48 fighters to cover their country which is about 900km long, from Portsmouth to Inverness

Ours is a long thin country, about 500km one side (Peninsular), 1000km the other (EM)
do the math

true also
you caught me between fanboying and reality I'm afraid
ikut hati nak 10 biji MPA at least and 60 biji Top Gun ace pilot
ikut realiti? lebih baik bina factory jual iPhone
duit takde rakyat menderita, apa nak tempur