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AoiNatsume
post Dec 11 2007, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(tapirus @ Dec 11 2007, 12:40 AM)
since when bro dblooi change gender to became sir dblooi??? tongue.gif last time cod with him still a men..maybe a few days after see ace mei mei he@she interested to change gender..  biggrin.gif

BTW this one my real topic... tonight i will oc kaw2..currently running on 3.4Ghz at 1.35 vcore 2.2 vdim..will post ss tomorrow morning...just want to push my ram before my new ram arrive tomorrow... rclxms.gif
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3.4Ghz @ 1.35v stable? the best 3.4Ghz i can do with my vcore is min 1.4v benchable and able to pass orthos for 30 mins. But not stable enough for daily usage, will need at least 1.45v to pass 7 hours orthos.


QUOTE(choyster @ Dec 11 2007, 04:42 AM)
my fren said add 15c to brisby temp i think around there right?
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Its hard to say, you will need to roughly estimate by touching your heatsink. My previous brisbane Hovers around 12-15c idle on xigmatek S1283, these sort of temps are impossible given the ambient is around 28-30c. So yeah... the DTS on the brisbane are pretty much useless.


QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 11 2007, 04:55 AM)
Forgot already the Vcore.
Try search Xigmatek @ Garage. A nice cooler indeed.

-pWs-
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+1 vote for me for xigmatek S1283 icon_rolleyes.gif
Its the best Air cooling below RM200 that ive ever bought in the past few years. Which is also the cooler that got me out of thermalright fanboyism sweat.gif
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post Dec 11 2007, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(tapirus @ Dec 11 2007, 11:34 AM)
i pass orthos more then 2hours..just failed around 2 hours 15 minustes like that...right now using that core speed..dun have any problem like restart,shutdown or hang...it's consider stable or not??? biggrin.gif
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to me, a perfectlly stable system that meets my 24/7 requirement isnt only orthos, well.. othos is part of it, but it has to pass at least 8 hours followed by a 12 hours of memtest... yea its quite some hassle, but it worth the while =)

QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 11 2007, 04:14 PM)
shhhhhhhhhh dun tell everybody....later got ppl angry  tongue.gif

anyways...tried my ram...got this result easily...no sweat
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nice result, im sure theres alot more headroom in that tracer of yours thumbup.gif
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post Dec 12 2007, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 12 2007, 11:11 AM)
sorry to say , but low end asus mobo is just piece of s**t  laugh.gif
ugly PCB colour , use all chaplang components most of the time and unocable bios on most of their low end mobo

and about TA690G , so far there are few cons that i know

1) voltage drop for the vcore and vdimm (max vdimm can set is 2.65v, but after dropping left 2.6v only sad.gif )
2) vdimm set to 2.3v , real vdimm go back to 1.9v sad.gif
3) clockgen can only be supported when u do some changes in PLL setup (is it one of the cons?  laugh.gif)

but to me, they are just some minor bugs. In overall this mobo still damn solid for overclocking brows.gif
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i totally agree with you, any Asus board which is below RM500 are pure garbage. Not to say they suck, but the only good boards they carry are mostly the high end board. Their value boards are one of the worst.
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post Dec 13 2007, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(jeromeccm @ Dec 13 2007, 12:54 PM)
Hi Guys..

noob here.. he he..
actually i have been following up the OC K8 for quite a while. Never tried to OC but once i OC i got addicted..
I have quite a number of question here, so dont mind if i can bombard the question to get more understanding..

My RIG
AMD X2 5200+ @ 2.6GHz stock with Zalman S8700 heatsink and fan.
Biostar TF7050-M2
2GHz Kingston RAM DDR667 (running pair-1GHz each)
Zotac 8800GT amp! (700/2000) stock cooler.
I finally tried to Oc yesterday and here is what i've got.

I am using the default OC software given by Biostar to OC the buss speed.
Here is what i did before OC the buss speed.
- Lower the HT Lnk to X4
- Reduce the RAM speed to 566MHz
During OC time, the incremental of the Buss speed is 5MHz each time and test Ortho for 15m. If stable then increase 5MHz again.

I didnt change the voltage at first.
Multiplier remain at X13.
My RAM speed was about 297MHz.

However when i hit 230MHz, my PC black out and restart by it self. Then suddenly it jump into blue screen for 1/2sec and restart again. This time, the Bus speed have been automatically change to 215MHz once i boot to window. MY HTT was 920MHz.

Hence i have reduce the buss speed to 225MHz as shown in the picture below.

My question is,
1) Is my initial setting correct for the HT link, The RAM frequency as well as for the multiplier?
2) Is the blue screen happened because of not enough voltage during OC?
3) My Temp is idle at around 36deg C and load is 45deg C. Is it normal?
4) Is my Processror F3 version?
5) Is there anything to do with the HTT?
6) since my RAM is DDR667, the actual clock is 333Mhz. During the OC can the memory frequency go beyond 333MHz? I assume 333MHz is the limit and anything go beyond that is consider OC.
7) What if the memory is beyond the 333MHz, will there be a risk that the memory will burn?
8) I notice some people said lowering the CPU multiplier able to push the bus speed further.. Why is that so?
9) What will be my safe margin of the CPU temp when OC. some says 50C, some say 55C and some even said 60C.. confuse.
10) Yesterday my bus speed hit 230MHz, CPU Multiplier is 13, HT link 920MHz, and the Memory speed is about 300MHZ, i tested with Ortho for 6 hours.. stable and no error. But when i tested with the 3Dmark03, the graphic teste was ok.. but when come to the CPU test where the Orgs were playing stone game, the PC black out and reboot.... may i know why? I thought the Ortho already stressing the CPU and should be fine in running other programs...

Please please provide me advise how to clock it further... below is a snap shot of my current setting..
Please comment... thanks...

sorry guys for the questions and questions... i am a technical person so everything i do i have to understand.,, if not i am like a copier machine but not knowing the content..
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1) Is my initial setting correct for the HT link, The RAM frequency as well as for the multiplier?
- Well, there isnt correct or wrong, its all about trial and error. The BSOD that you had, most likely indicates the limit you can do on that vcore further overclocking will require additional juice. As for the HT link it depends on that motherboard, in my case i can run 1.5Ghz HT for 24/7 without increasing NB Voltage, though no noticeable performance increase but no heat/instability issues as well so.. heck haha. But ive read some source that says HT link overclocking does increase the performance of the build in graphics. As for rams, typically, any value rams are not a great overclocker and will hold back your processor ALOT, although in some very rare cases, the value rams uses good chips.

2) Is the blue screen happened because of not enough voltage during OC?
- Blue screen happened due to system instability, the causes are too much to mention. It might be the CPU/ram voltage and it might be your CPU/RAM setting/timings etc. Its all about trial and error. The longer you mess with your system, the better u get to know it, and the easier it is to figure out the culprit which is giving you the BSOD.

3) My Temp is idle at around 36deg C and load is 45deg C. Is it normal?
- This is rather normal, as the matter in fact, this is indeed the recommended temps in all occasions. Though keep in mind higher wont burn, proc these days are designed to take up to 80-90c, but do remember, lifespan will be reduced significantly if you maintain these sort of massive temps for a long term.

4) Is my Processror F3 version?
- its rather unlikely.

5) Is there anything to do with the HTT?
- what are you reffering to?

6) since my RAM is DDR667, the actual clock is 333Mhz. During the OC can the memory frequency go beyond 333MHz? I assume 333MHz is the limit and anything go beyond that is consider OC.
- yes

7) What if the memory is beyond the 333MHz, will there be a risk that the memory will burn?
- usually, RAMs are safe to be running 1.8 - 2.0, but for 2.0 to 2.2, it would be preferable if you have a RAM heatspreader, anything higher than 2.3, better get some active cooling. Of course it can and it will go beyond 333mhz =)

8) I notice some people said lowering the CPU multiplier able to push the bus speed further.. Why is that so?
- Because every system are unique, made out of different motherboard/proc and rams. Some board works that way and some doesnt. But of course, the final clockspeed that you get, is the multiplier x FSB(HTT), in a way, reducing the multiplier also reduces your clockspeed. Its all about balancing up.

9) What will be my safe margin of the CPU temp when OC. some says 50C, some say 55C and some even said 60C.. confuse.
- Always take the full load temps as a safety margin, during overclocking, idle temps can be ignored. You can go all the way up to 60c no problem, but it is indeed adviseable to keep the temps as low as possible, theres nothing to lose. Usually, recommended 24/7 operational temps are between 30-40c on idle, 50-55c on load.

10) Yesterday my bus speed hit 230MHz, CPU Multiplier is 13, HT link 920MHz, and the Memory speed is about 300MHZ, i tested with Ortho for 6 hours.. stable and no error. But when i tested with the 3Dmark03, the graphic teste was ok.. but when come to the CPU test where the Orgs were playing stone game, the PC black out and reboot.... may i know why? I thought the Ortho already stressing the CPU and should be fine in running other programs...
- 6 hours orthos passing isnt very hard, you will have to run orthos for at least 8hours to determin its stability, even if it passes 8 hours it does not mean that your system is 100% stable, to be safe, run a session of 8 hour orthos, followed by 8 hours memtest. The rams might be the culprit as well.

This post has been edited by AoiNatsume: Dec 13 2007, 01:27 PM

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