so can eat durian with normal price without markup

I don't generally need a high performance car either. But when over taking buses/lorries on single lane trunk roads, which is quite often, it would be greatly appreciated.

This is one of the reason I picked the 30K cheaper turbo charged CRV instead of the Hybrid. 30K can buy a lot of petrol and it is much easier to do over-taking of slow lorries.

Yes, I agree, luck does play a big part. i did come across more people saying issues with proton and honda though, mostly small issues for proton (small parts malfunction and etc) and honda (mostly steering rack). yea i know toyota isnt perfect, but i rather not take the risks.

yes, but too bad civic hybrid is a tad out of my budget.

indeed, maybe some test drive will change my mind.

since you don't need a car for work and probably just want a car for jalan jalan... i wouldn't focus too much on getting a hybrid car...

the new alza is actually not bad... rented one for a 2 weeks holiday up/dn kinabalu with 5 pax... easy drive good enough handling imho... go test it out and keep and open mind...

Preach bro, preach. Nothing gives me greater pleasure than to flex my right ankle and watch the bus or lorry fade into the distance from my rear view mirror ....

sure thing, thanks. better idea to get veloz though, higher ground clearance

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My Honda has motor tension issue. Proton ABS sensor issue.

oh my, just like what i said, Honda and Proton having issues more often. at least thats what reported. some even report issues while car is quite new. Those issues rectified?

If under warranty can get changed foc right?

I am tempted to say that it’s because one is made in Thailand. The other is made in Malaysia… but then even cars made in Japan had their test results fudged… no where is safe anymore.

the reason why i dont go with DNGA platform cars for now, so need some time to be sure.

But not every Toyota is affected right?

all these platforms refer to the chasis/substructure design... has practically zero bearings to reliability

car makers don't really make a lot of parts in house... a lot is outsourced to oem... the same oem can supply parts to all other car makers... so it really depends on who made the parts and how lucky you are...

all cars will have problems... some sooner some later... time can only solve some systemic problems... but majority of failures are really batch manufacturing related...

You called it bro. Spot on.

That's why cars are only ever a depreciating "asset".

Don't worry so much. If you want to wait for a perfect car, you may never gonna buy a car. And miss out on all the enjoyment or convenient that comes with having a car.

So if you need a car or want a car and have the money for a car, I say, just go buy one. Life is too short to wait for the next perfect car.....

Hm......china car no good even with full ADAS plus 5 star NCAP 5 stars ???