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Is Malaysian perspective towards China cars changed?
 
Yes. It's changing possitively. More Malaysians trust China cars. [ 51 ] ** [48.57%]
No.Still skeptical. Lack of dealerships and workshop that specialise on China cars hinders Malaysian buying and trust China cars. [ 54 ] ** [51.43%]
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China EV makers woo buyers with in-car beds, kitchens, drones
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Cutting-edge offerings from smaller players raise the risk of Western carmakers slipping further behind.



While traditional automakers’ focus is still on car drivability, Chinese firms have expanded into various lifestyle and leisure applications. (Polestones pic)
SHANGHAI: In China, electric vehicles with built-in fridges and even in-car karaoke systems are considered passé. Instead, carmakers are turning to increasingly novel add-ons from beds to cooktops to boost sluggish sales.

Top EV makers are facing a slowdown in demand at home as consumers curb spending, just as geopolitical tensions with major Western economies cloud the outlook for exports.

Meanwhile for smaller players, the ability to think creatively is core to their survival, with the cut-throat industry bracing for a likely wave of consolidation as China looks to rein in the excesses left behind by years of generous subsidies.

The high-tech offerings also highlight the risk for Western manufacturers should they fall even further behind in carving out market share in the world’s biggest auto market.

China-made vehicles are viewed by local customers as better suited to their extensive technology demands and preference for high levels of connectivity.

“While legacy automakers still only focus on the drivability of a car, Chinese companies are not satisfied with that,” Wang Binggang, an Xpeng Inc salesperson, said in a showroom in central Shanghai.

“We are extending the possibilities to all kinds of living and recreational scenarios, and that’s part of the reason why customers love e-cars these days.”

Here’s a look at some of the offbeat offerings now available in China:

Sleeping kits

Just one click on the in-car display in Xpeng’s G9, an SUV with a starting price at 263,900 yuan (US$36,700), and it turns into a bed that comfortably sleeps two people.

Drivers who install the so-called sleeping kit feature are able to make both front and back seats lay completely flat, then watch as a double-size air mattress unfolds and is automatically inflated.

The company is looking to muscle in on China’s increasingly popular camping culture, but the car may also prove a hit with desk jockeys enduring the country’s notoriously gruelling office hours and looking for a place to nap.

The feature was an unexpected saviour for some families during February’s Lunar New Year holiday. Long waits at charging stations, traffic jams that lasted for hours and snowstorms that left tens of thousands of drivers stranded across the country saw many in sudden need of a safe place to sleep.

In sync heartbeat

One of the most notable features of an electric vehicle is how much quieter, and smoother to accelerate, it is compared with a combustion-engine car. But the downside is that it can cause or worsen motion sickness. And the way an EV’s brakes work can also add to the feeling of imbalance for some drivers and passengers.

Hangzhou-based Geely Automobile Holdings Ltd says it has solved that problem in its Galaxy E8 electric sedan, which vibrates at 1.25 hertz — the same as a human heartbeat — when the car is driving on undulating terrain.

The car, which went on sale on Jan 5 and starts at US$24,450, also has a braking system that minimises the jerking sensation often noticed by people when they first start driving an EV.

Tailgate ready

Li Auto Inc’s L-Series has become one of the most popular SUV ranges in China, offering spacious interiors, extended-range capabilities and in-built massagers in its seats. While that’s seen sales boom, it’s also given rise to challengers looking to make their own mark among the country’s middle-class families.

That includes Rox Motor Tech, a startup established in 2021 by the founder of a robot vacuum maker, which is looking to win over lovers of the outdoors. Its first production model, the Polestones 01, includes a rear-mounted camping-style kitchen with an induction cooker and water dispenser.

It’s also got a sun canopy that attaches to the roof, which the carmaker says can be assembled, or taken down and stowed away, in minutes. The car costs US$48,700.

Drones

BYD Co, the world’s largest EV manufacturer, is looking to make its premium US$153,000 Yangwang U8 more enticing for tech fans.

Its partnership with Shenzhen-based drone giant DJI allows a small craft to launch from and land on a retractable case mounted to the roof and it can even fly back to dock once the car reaches its final destination.

Movements are controlled on the in-car display screen, and an in-built system can charge the drone’s three batteries and swap cells when the power runs down.

The drone is programmed to follow the car’s route and captures high-definition images. That allows drivers to obtain real-time aerial views of their surrounds, while they can also produce short videos on their in-car screen.

In-car gaming

In-car gaming is an increasingly widespread offering. Tesla Inc added video game platform Steam into its system in 2022, while Li Auto allows drivers and passengers to connect their Nintendo Co’s Switch to the car’s system.

BYD has taken it one step further. Its redesigned steering wheel can be detached, allowing drivers to use it in conjunction with the car’s pedals to play video games on the in-car display.

While the technology has proved popular, it’s also given rise to concerns that it’s distracting and could cause crashes. The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration last year closed a probe into Tesla’s in-vehicle game-play functionality after the automaker disabled the “Passenger Play” feature.

Chinese EV makers have implemented restrictions, including only allowing games to be played when a car is stationary with the engine off.

What’s next?

The best, or quirkiest, are yet to come.

Geely and its EV brand Zeekr applied for a patent for a vehicle-mounted fishing system that includes a line and hook. Location sensors on the car will give the driver information on the depth and flow rate of nearby bodies of water, as well as historical data to help determine the best fishing spot.

A device will enable long-distance and more precise casting and, when a fish bites, the vehicle will reel it in.

Meanwhile, SAIC Corp’s IM Motors has filed an intellectual property application for an in-car plant-care system, which will collect rain from the roof and water generated by the vehicle’s cooling system. Software will recognise different plant varieties and calculate the best timing and volume of water to sustain them.

The ambitions signal automakers’ emphasis on innovation will continue even in the face of an uncertain consumer demand outlook.

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“In the EV era, China is attempting to redefine premium,” said Bill Russo, founder and chief executive officer of Shanghai-based advisory firm Automobility. “They may come up with some real off-the-wall ideas, but that’s what experimentation is all about.”
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post Mar 17 2024, 07:21 PM

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https://www.businessinsider.com/china-xiaom...20selling%20EVs.

Apple spent 10 years trying to launch a car. China's Xiaomi just did it in 3.


Last month, Apple called it quits on its electric-vehicle dream. This month, one of the iPhone maker's biggest rivals in China is showing it how it's done.

The Beijing-based smartphone maker Xiaomi is set to do what Apple could not after it announced plans to start selling its first line of EVs, the Speed Ultra 7 — known as the SU7 — on March 28 in nearly 30 cities across China.


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thru proton rebadged from geely a kick start for malaysian begin to trust china cars , as we can see lots of x50 x70 even x90 on the road nowdays
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Back then everyone was like "ewww...made in China".
Now everyone is glorifying "made in China" products.
Progress.
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post Mar 18 2024, 08:35 AM

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Will they start to put ads in their HU like how they did with their phone?
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QUOTE(optprime @ Mar 18 2024, 07:44 AM)
Back then everyone was like "ewww...made in China".
Now everyone is glorifying "made in China" products.
Progress.
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If you go back far enough, we used to say.. "ewww.. Japan goods".
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post Mar 18 2024, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(optprime @ Mar 18 2024, 07:44 AM)
Back then everyone was like "ewww...made in China".
Now everyone is glorifying "made in China" products.
Progress.
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They deserved the praise because they are the most sincere as Bobby Ang said it.


Agree with how he described Honda, it was brief but a nail in the coffin nonetheless
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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/opinion/36261...entley-combined

And the sincere words from Mike Rutherford,
Chief columnist of Auto express UK

Mike was one of the founding fathers of Auto Express in 1988. He's been motoring editor on four tabloid newspapers - London Evening News, The Sun, News of the World & Daily Mirror. He was also a weekly columnist on the Daily Telegraph, The Independent and The Sunday Times.

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Mar 18 2024, 09:09 AM)
If you go back far enough, we used to say.. "ewww.. Japan goods".
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Oh yes. Now China is the new Japan in Asia.
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Basically it's priced lower than the rest and offer more or equivalent features.
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Just like how we now got used to China phones.
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post Mar 24 2024, 10:58 AM

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"You have to learn. You have to unlearn and you have to do it quickly," he said. "Because you've been doing something for 100 years, doesn't mean you should keep doing it. It's no longer appropriate."

Marin Gjaja, chief operating officer for Ford's EV unit


https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/22/byd-seagull...ns-on-edge.html


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EV maybe.

ICE car better not, unless it is Proton.
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I hope it can challenge BYD in some way meaningful
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Aside from BYD, Who are the other players?

There are a staggering 129 EV brands in China, but just 20 have managed to achieve a domestic market share of one percent or more, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

The data showed BYD at almost 33 percent, with Tesla in second place with more than eight percent.

In third place with 5.8 percent of the market is Wuling, which makes China’s best-selling EV to date — a tiny two-door car named Hongguang Mini.

The rest of the pack includes Volvo Cars-parent Geely and electric SUV maker Li Auto, as well as the relatively newer XPeng and NIO.

And the offerings for Chinese customers are just as varied — from buses and entry-level and mid-range city cars to luxury sedans and roadsters.

China’s tech giants also want a slice of the multi-billion-dollar EV pie.

Huawei, under heavy US sanctions over alleged links to Chinese security agencies, has in recent years developed EVs with production partners, with heavy use of its technology.

Search giant Baidu is also working on an EV project, with a focus on autonomous driving.

And Xiaomi, the world’s third-biggest smartphone maker, entered the fray on Thursday.
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with the fast tech offered by China brand cars, it is a blessing in disguise for consumers here. I remember back in 2012-14 circa back then, most cars were already with GDI configuration to get better FC and good emission. But the Japanese brand especially their Project leader always blaming our "low" quality petrol as reason they wont give GDI engine, which is apparently due to cheapskate practice. Other brand back then like Hyundai i40 (i40 can do with GDI here without any issue back in 2014. VW engine as well, so it turn out Japanese brand with cheapskates are one who delaying the GDI engine to our market.

With China car, we are getting GDI engine, DCT gb to the masses at affordable prices. See Chery Tiggo 8 2.0T engine which give similar as Merz C300 in term of Hp and Torque at that price, its good for the consumer. This not including the EV car which more tech upgrading per year in term of battery tech. Compared to Japanese, it stuck with junk, not reliable CVT gb again and again.

Summary, Japanese brands are cheapskate at least to our region. No wonder their sales number are affected by China car abroad.

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 2 2024, 10:14 PM)
with the fast tech offered by China brand cars, it is a blessing in disguise for consumers here. I remember back in 2012-14 circa back then, most cars were already with GDI configuration to get better FC and good emission. But the Japanese brand especially their Project leader always blaming our "low" quality petrol as reason they wont give GDI engine, which is apparently due to cheapskate practice. Other brand back then like Hyundai i40 (i40 can do with GDI here without any issue back in 2014. VW engine as well, so it turn out Japanese brand with cheapskates are one who delaying the GDI engine to our market.

With China car, we are getting GDI engine, DCT gb to the masses at affordable prices. See Chery Tiggo 8 2.0T engine which give similar as Merz C300 in term of Hp and Torque at that price, its good for the consumer. This not including the EV car which more tech upgrading per year in term of battery tech. Compared to Japanese, it stuck with junk, not reliable CVT gb again and again.

Summary, Japanese brands are cheapskate at least to our region. No wonder their sales number are affected by China car abroad.
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Funny you should said that

https://www.ft.com/content/4f1a2188-ced0-40...8d-5148209a5f5e

Li Yunfei, general manager of branding and public relations at BYD, said in a recent social media post that the company was starting “a grand showdown with gas cars”. “Buying a gasoline-powered car at the moment is like buying a pager when mobile phones are available,” he said

Japanese loves nostalgia


https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/201911...out-its-economy

Don't call them cheap, for they are cherished.

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 3 2024, 08:42 AM)
Funny you should said that

https://www.ft.com/content/4f1a2188-ced0-40...8d-5148209a5f5e

Li Yunfei, general manager of branding and public relations at BYD, said in a recent social media post that the company was starting “a grand showdown with gas cars”. “Buying a gasoline-powered car at the moment is like buying a pager when mobile phones are available,” he said

Japanese loves nostalgia
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/201911...out-its-economy

Don't call them cheap, for they are cherished.
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Maybe for the CBU unit. But if it for SEA market, standby cut cost practice especially the thing we dont see (sound insulation materials) hence we getting poor NVH for local made Japanese car. Try drive Japanese CBU model, its day and night different.

If petrol price is at RM2.05/L its takes longer to ROI here (consumer will make calculation if it wonder to jump EV) , wait if the petrol hitting rm4/L like Thai, masses will jump to EV more & asap.

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tides have turned, war price is good for end users
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 3 2024, 08:52 AM)
Maybe for the CBU unit. But if it for SEA market, standby cut cost practice especially the thing we dont see (sound insulation materials) hence we getting poor NVH for local made Japanese car. Try drive Japanese CBU model, its day and night different.

If petrol price is at RM2.05/L its takes longer to ROI here (consumer will make calculation if it wonder to jump EV) , wait if the petrol hitting rm4/L like Thai, masses will jump to EV more & asap.
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No need to hit RM4, hit RM3 already jumped over. A 2 figures fill up full tanks will becomes 3 figures.

Works a bit like electricity price, I was just at TNB yesterday and a staff has shown me a big jump in solar PV applications from house owners

And that happens just because a 2 sen rebate abolishment for those who pays above RM230 per month.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...s-not-affected/

15% of users affected already can has such effect, what will happen when if fuel subsidy is removed for just T20 ?





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