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 Toyota Corolla Altis 2023, Rumoured torsion beam

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Virlution
post Apr 27 2023, 09:25 AM

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Corolla got double wishbone rear suspension meh??

Not multi-link rear suspension ka?
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post Apr 27 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Apr 27 2023, 10:37 AM)
many forgot most of the best hothatches are using torsion.
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Problem with torsion beam is it is too hard.... you got good handling but too harsh ride. example mentioned earlier FN2.

Best Type R hot hatch is EP3 comes with independent, double-wishbone rear suspension

Although no more hatch, FK8 uses independent multi-link rear suspension also

torsion beam is cheap and will never be as good as other suspension setup.
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post Apr 27 2023, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(blindmutedeaf @ Apr 27 2023, 12:26 PM)
see if they compensate that in chassis when changing from multilink to torsion beam.

It is not just about the suspension system, it is about the chassis also.

An example of Wira suspension system is good unfortunately the chassis sucks in too soft to begin with.
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Chassis in that period of time are soft, even evo3 chassis is very soft compare to modern cars.

stock wira suspension is very soft as well, so its comfortable.
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post Apr 27 2023, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(blindmutedeaf @ Apr 27 2023, 02:19 PM)
yaya... no doubt that wira is comfort but not for you to go send taufu.....
evo3 should be our wira? i do have doubts if their stiffness are the same though...

anyway to change from one suspension setup to another, compensation on chassis is a must.

an example is if you compare
toyota corolla last gen with 4 speed 
to vios last gen with 4 speed
to city last gen with 5 speed... (not the after gen due to that's the last with 4 disc brake)

then you will catch the point that chassis design is fairly important.

That vios is a happy tail
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I had the manual 1.5 wira last time.... change many cars over the time...
now got 2 6spd manual.

evo 3 is based on Lancer 1991–1995 or wira chassis, but stiffen due to extra weld points and extra brace, ARB and etc. Plus Wira dont have ARB

compare evo3 chassis to modern day Lancer chasis (Inspira non Evo version) the stock evo3 is not as stiff as stock Inspira plus over the year wear and tear.
this is due to advancement in steel/material improvement and strengthening of chassis.

I couldnt find the mitsu comparison, but you can see BMW 3 series, how much the chassis stiffness improve over time.

BMW E46 Sedan 18,000
BMW E90 3-Series 22,500
BMW F30 3-Series 29,300

Manufacturer tune the suspension to match the chassis, not the other way around.

Also some manufacturer tune the car to suit the requirements of the countries



 

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