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 Anyone regret buying APS-C lens? FF body below RMK

Do you regret buying APS-C lens?
 
Yes, should get all FF lens [ 10 ] ** [62.50%]
Nope, I won't buy FF body [ 3 ] ** [18.75%]
Nope, I just buy again FF lens [ 3 ] ** [18.75%]
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TrialGone
post Apr 10 2023, 01:10 PM

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There are so many things to consider. Lens library, ur budget, ur photography preference etc.

Just cause FF body is cheap doesnt mean the lens library is cheap as well. Consider the focal length and aperture u want and check the lens price before u jump into FF. I laugh at people buying f4 lens on FF body and then complain not enough bokeh lol. Apsc can produce better result than FF if u know what to look for.

Also FYI, FF can be compact, see Sony A7C with the Sony FF compact/almost pancake lens. The only caveat is the price.
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post Apr 10 2023, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 10 2023, 02:15 PM)
Ya Sony FF seems to be the best especially ZV-E1

Since my Canon efs lens is kinda useless in FF, might as well change brand.
Do you think 0.71x speed booster adapter will increase F4 to F2.8?

Also I am wondering 0.71x will make Tokina 11mm useful?

Seems like for full frame, Tokina 16mm only useful while any wider will have corner being blocked.
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ZV-E1 is video centric. If u want for photo get like A7iii or A7C or something with mechanical shutter.

I'm not really sure what's ur goal with FF. If u doing this professionally or u have lots of money, FF is better deal as it offers more versatility and lens selection. But in no way its budget friendly unless u dive into vintage and knowing second hand markets.

Speed booster in very simplified summary just make smaller sensor e.g. M43 or Apsc acts like FF when paired with dslr FF lens. Note I mentioned dslr lens since it only works with lens designed for camera with long mounting flange onto mirroless camera with shorter flange.

But since u mention efs lens, if not mistaken (I'm not canon guy) isn't that just aspc lens? Then speedbooster is useless.

This post has been edited by TrialGone: Apr 10 2023, 03:44 PM
TrialGone
post Apr 10 2023, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 10 2023, 04:05 PM)
Just hobbyist who love night photography without noise. Been dreaming about a7iii lol

Ya I still reading the speed booster. I thought it can boost aps-c lens also by change the distance of flange to make aps-c lens cover whole FF sensor. I might confuse on that. Do I move the aps-c lens further from sensor or nearer to sensor to make it over full frame?
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Speedbooster concentrate FF circle to smaller circle to fit into apsc sensor. The opposite of that is teleconverter but I don't think that's what u looking for. I think u confuse on lots of thing from what I read. U better look into utube video on speedbooster first.

If u primary aim for low light, then sure FF is the way to go. But like i mentioned FF gears are not cheap so u better do some price study on lens and camera combo first. Don't buy FF body and then cheap out on lens. Apsc can also do lowlight (paired with fast lens) but of course not as good as FF. Really depends on the quality level u want.
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post Apr 10 2023, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 10 2023, 05:43 PM)
Ok, I just study more on the 0.71x speedbooster,
its the opposite of what I want

I guess I need an adapter that do 1.6x speedlower (not booster)

Speedbooster - concentrate light into small area of the sensor - increase aperture
Speedlower - refract light into bigger area - drop the aperture
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Really teleconverter just make the image worse so don't think about it. It's only useful if u want more tele reach. It never meant for fitting apsc lens circle onto FF.

If u go FF, just go FF lens. Apsc with apsc lens. Anything in between like speedbooster and such if u have zero clue how to use them, don't buy into them since there are many other issue if u use it.

Just do some research before buying. There are tons of utube video on this.
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post Apr 11 2023, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 11 2023, 04:36 PM)
Ok. But I really dream of full frame since I got my 1000D. Haha
Maybe I just continue to use my Canon 85mm f1.8 since it's the only full frame lense I got.
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O boy. Everytime I hear someone only owning 85mm f1.8 or tele lens, I assume u took advice from someone that say that is the focal length to get for portrait with nicest "bokeh", am I right?

I think u miss out on a lot of things just thinking of bokeh all time. Most impactful portrait shot is with wide angle lens, IMO.

But again it's ur money. Since u already own canon lens, then better stick with canon R plus adapter for the lens.
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post Apr 20 2023, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 19 2023, 01:40 PM)
The problem is 5D mah.

If you got EOS RP or EOS R8, you will straight throw M50 to rubbish bin.

I think EOS M is Canon biggest screw up.
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I also agree eos m is pretty stupid move by canon. But currently it's the only mirror less canon apsc camera that has third party lens from the likes of sigma. Also people who bought into eos m is not going spend much anyway so it's not much of sacrifice since canon R lineup doesn't even allow 3rd party cheap lens

However for new buyers..... Don't buy into eos m now.

Btw, since u so budget conscious, I don't think canon in their current state is right for u unless u got existing canon dslr lens.

This post has been edited by TrialGone: Apr 20 2023, 09:54 AM
TrialGone
post Apr 20 2023, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Apr 20 2023, 10:04 AM)
I got some cheap stuff in Canon

1000d
Tokina 11-16 2.8
Tamron 17-50 2.8
Canon 85 1.8
Canon FD 50mm
Flash di622

Edited:
I still remember when EOS M come out, I also got feeling Canon just come out with EOS M halfheartedly to join mirrorless. So I just ignore.

And you are right. EOS R third party is shameful.
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If u already have those lens then just go canon. U only need to spend a bit more on the official adapter.

But I still suggest to jump out of canon if possible cause unless u r professional photographer, canon system is kinda stupid for budget user.

Give u example, they released R series Apsc sensor. But they don't have proper prime apsc lens at all. And to make it worse, no 3rd party lens allowed. Wtf canon?

This post has been edited by TrialGone: Apr 20 2023, 12:41 PM

 

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