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> RX470 sold by PGV3910, UPDATE: Got my full refund

Skylinestar
post Apr 6 2023, 11:19 PM, updated 3y ago

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Forumer you are complaining against: PGV3910 , aka MOHD NIZAM BIN SULAMAN

Item being sold/bought: Sapphire Nitro RX470 graphics card

Original thread link:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5359361

Date of transaction: 31-March-2023

Details of the complaint:
In his ad, he put the warranty as "1 week personal" and claimed everything is good. The price was RM288 but we agreed on the RM250 price.

On 31-March-2023, I made a payment to him.

On 2nd-April-2023, I received the card (via J&T from Penang). It has scratches on the back plate but he didn't mention it before. He said he mounted an extra fan there for cooling. I tested the card. Initially, it didn't work, but after a bios reset, it worked. I ran Unigine Superposition on it and got a score of 7013.

On 3rd-April-2023, ran WiiU emulator cemu for an hour. Watched online drama for an hour. Everything looked ok.

On 4th-April-2023, I got a green screen when Windows was loaded (just entered into desktop). Then the pc crashed. Reset pc. Now all I got was my motherboard buzzer beeping as if there is no video adaptor. I tried reset bios but failed to solve the issue. I told him that I want my refund. He said he will refund after I returned the card.

On 5th-April-2023, I sent the card back to him (via J&T to Penang). He talked bad stuff about me.

On 6th-April-2023, He received his card. He tested it and said the card is good. He refunded me RM50 and said this is to teach me a lesson. I uploaded his video in OneDrive here. Shorter version of the video on Streamable here.

He still owes me RM200.

Is his card bad? I don't know.
Is my pc bad? I don't know.
But what I know is that I have returned his card, he has tested it to be ok, and I should get my full refund.

UPDATE: 10th-April-2023
Seller refunded me the balance RM200. Thank God.

Here is the ad and conversation with PGV3910:

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This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Apr 10 2023, 08:14 PM
SUSredic
post Apr 6 2023, 11:37 PM

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he is so racist

tak payah la bang PGV3910 , give full refund jer la


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post Apr 7 2023, 01:22 AM

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A Reminder to all GPU Buyer

New/Used.


The Proper method to test a CARD is

Furmark.


Because this test is so intensive that THE TEST ITSELF "DEGRADE" The Card.


ONLY "FULL HEALTH" GPU can past the test.


TIPS:

Dont over DO the test " Pro-long"

Under intense load.
all the VRM, RAM, FAN, GPU are 100% tested.


i buy/sell alot used/mining gpu
i know.

some GPU only can perform normal 65%... as long as you dont over do....
once over do.... Blue.
PGV3910
post Apr 8 2023, 01:46 AM

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You are too arrogant
No effort from you, and staight away to refund..what the hell!?? but the card is no problem and no issues, your dumb pc have a problem and not my card..you are so called pc expert? What expert? Your head!
You play2 buy my card..with all the courrier risk i bear..damn you ,small2 dont die big2 problem ppl
If my card problem i will pay triple for you la..
I hold your money..just a hard lesson to you..dont play2 aa

PGV3910
post Apr 8 2023, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Apr 7 2023, 01:22 AM)
A Reminder to all GPU Buyer

New/Used.
The Proper method to test a CARD is

Furmark.
Because this test is so intensive that THE TEST ITSELF "DEGRADE" The Card.
ONLY "FULL HEALTH" GPU can past the test.
TIPS:

Dont over DO the test " Pro-long"

Under intense load.
all the VRM, RAM, FAN, GPU are 100% tested.
i buy/sell alot used/mining gpu
i know.

some GPU only can perform normal 65%... as long as you dont over do....
once over do.... Blue.
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TS high expectation that the card is new..damn..TS buy card for what aaa? Play games or benchmarking only??
Motor baru you rem full throtle 24hours pun pecah..inikan honda cup buruk .
SUSifourtos
post Apr 8 2023, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Apr 8 2023, 01:51 AM)
TS high expectation that the card is new..damn..TS buy card for what aaa? Play games or benchmarking only??
Motor baru you rem full throtle 24hours pun pecah..inikan honda cup buruk .
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kalao sudah tahu GPU anda tak boleh tahan 1 week warranty
jangan bagi warranty.


new or used, we expect to buy a usable Card.
not trash.


Lain kali be honest.

[wts] RTX 470
No warranty.


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post Apr 8 2023, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Apr 8 2023, 01:46 AM)
You are too arrogant
No effort from you, and staight away to refund..what the hell!?? but the card is no problem and no issues, your dumb pc have a problem and not my card..you are so called pc expert? What expert? Your head!
You play2 buy my card..with all the courrier risk i bear..damn you ,small2 dont die big2 problem ppl
If my card problem i will pay triple for you la..
I hold your money..just a hard lesson to you..dont play2 aa
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But why would you hold the money and at that sum?
PGV3910
post Apr 8 2023, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Apr 8 2023, 02:02 AM)
kalao sudah tahu GPU anda tak boleh tahan 1 week warranty
jangan bagi warranty.
new or used, we expect to buy a usable Card.
not trash.
Lain kali be honest.

[wts] RTX 470
No warranty.
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Why you mean tak tahan 1 minggu ? U nujum ka? U also sembang kemas juga? And you see the gpu is no problem with my system..and i sell working gpu..so?
I give warranty if the card fail..1st day is good with no issue, 2nd day tiba2 cant boot..and the card i test is good with no issue and i run furmark for 15 minutes with no issue..u also sembang kari weh
PGV3910
post Apr 8 2023, 06:16 AM

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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ Apr 8 2023, 02:03 AM)
But why would you hold the money and at that sum?
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To teach him to respect others
Im also trading in lyn for years
Yes got seller hanky panky here n there but im not kecoh simply claim the full refund untill i check and verify the item is GUARANTEE is faulty.i will use what ever resources i have for clarification even im not as PC EXPERT as TS BSH*T..ppl earn hard money, and i honor them,but TS is simply asking for refund at fisrt place, what TS think!? Im macai kah?
Skylinestar
post Apr 8 2023, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Apr 8 2023, 01:46 AM)
You are too arrogant
No effort from you, and staight away to refund..what the hell!?? but the card is no problem and no issues, your dumb pc have a problem and not my card..you are so called pc expert? What expert? Your head!
You play2 buy my card..with all the courrier risk i bear..damn you ,small2 dont die big2 problem ppl
If my card problem i will pay triple for you la..
I hold your money..just a hard lesson to you..dont play2 aa
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What other effort can I do? I don't have other pc to test. Returning is the best thing I can do.

Things that I have done:
1. Reset cmos bios
2. Reseat, including plug and unplug pcie power plug
3. Disconnect HDD/SSD
4. Booting with different OS (on different SSD)
5. Connect to different video output

You keep on saying expert. I am no expert, and I never said so.

QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Apr 8 2023, 06:10 AM)
I give warranty if the card fail
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Doubt. You will accuse me of ruining your card.
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This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Apr 8 2023, 07:39 AM
PGV3910
post Apr 8 2023, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 8 2023, 07:04 AM)
What other effort can I do? I don't have other pc to test. Returning is the best thing I can do.
You keep on saying expert. I am no expert, and I never said so.
Doubt. You will accuse me of ruining your card.
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I already ask you,may be ur windows got issues..but what you tell me? I got bla bla linux bla bla..act as expert shit..phuiii!!

The way your 1st act to full refund, there is no chance my gc is safe with you
Skylinestar
post Apr 8 2023, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Apr 8 2023, 07:39 AM)
I already ask you,may be ur windows got issues..but what you tell me? I got bla bla linux bla bla..act as expert shit..phuiii!!

The way your 1st act to full refund, there is no chance my gc is safe with you
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So you want me to reinstall windows?
How do i reinstall windows when there is no video output?
To isolate windows, booting with linux is the best.
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post Apr 8 2023, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 8 2023, 07:44 AM)
So you want me to reinstall windows?
How do i reinstall windows when there is no video output?
To isolate windows, booting with linux is the best.
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Why my system got the video output and yours is not!??
Means your system is sh*t, surely ur system at fault and not my gc..what say you?
I will refund if my gc is faulty
My warranty only cover if gpu is faulty
So my gpu not faulty. .its your system is bullsh*t and you accuse my card is faulty..fair????
Your head!!!
When im not returning your money you call me con man
You cheating by said my card is faulty than you are con what!??? Con kek?? Your head!!!
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post Apr 8 2023, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Apr 8 2023, 06:16 AM)
To teach him to respect others
Im also trading in lyn for years
Yes got seller hanky panky here n there but im not kecoh simply claim the full refund untill i check and verify the item is GUARANTEE is faulty.i will use what ever resources i have for clarification even im not as PC EXPERT as TS BSH*T..ppl earn hard money, and i honor them,but TS is simply asking for refund at fisrt place, what TS think!? Im macai kah?
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Math fail
Law Fail


From the Legal Point of View. This is Scam.
Hold 80% of the Money that should be return to buyer , to teach them a lesson??


From Religious Point of View. This is Haram.


As a reputable seller.

i never see 1 so low ball.

Seller bear the RISK.
not buyer. This is market rules.

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post Apr 8 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Apr 8 2023, 11:26 AM)
Why my system got the video output and yours is not!??
Means your system is sh*t, surely ur system at fault and not my gc..what say you?
I will refund if my gc is faulty
My warranty only cover if gpu is faulty
So my gpu not faulty. .its your system is bullsh*t and you accuse my card is faulty..fair????
Your head!!!
When im not returning your money you call me con man
You cheating by said my card is faulty than you are con what!??? Con kek?? Your head!!!
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i am expert.

a 70% healthy GPU can boot, can play games.
as long as the affected component is not touch.

that is why in pro-longed usage, some GPU failed. ( not fail immiediately at POST )


the affected component can be RAMDAC, VRM.
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post Apr 8 2023, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 6 2023, 11:19 PM)
Forumer you are complaining against: PGV3910 , aka MOHD NIZAM BIN SULAMAN

Item being sold/bought: Sapphire Nitro RX470 graphics card

Original thread link:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5359361

Date of transaction: 31-March-2023

Details of the complaint:
In his ad, he put the warranty as "1 week personal" and claimed everything is good. The price was RM288 but we agreed on the RM250 price.

On 31-March-2023, I made a payment to him.

On 2nd-April-2023, I received the card (via J&T from Penang). It has scratches on the back plate but he didn't mention it before. He said he mounted an extra fan there for cooling. I tested the card. Initially, it didn't work, but after a bios reset, it worked. I ran Unigine Superposition on it and got a score of 7013.

On 3rd-April-2023, ran WiiU emulator cemu for an hour. Watched online drama for an hour. Everything looked ok.

On 4th-April-2023, I got a green screen when Windows was loaded (just entered into desktop). Then the pc crashed. Reset pc. Now all I got was my motherboard buzzer beeping as if there is no video adaptor. I tried reset bios but failed to solve the issue. I told him that I want my refund. He said he will refund after I returned the card.

On 5th-April-2023, I sent the card back to him (via J&T to Penang). He talked bad stuff about me.

On 6th-April-2023, He received his card. He tested it and said the card is good. He refunded me RM50 and said this is to teach me a lesson. I uploaded his video in OneDrive here. Shorter version of the video on Streamable here.

He still owes me RM200.

Is his card bad? I don't know.
Is my pc bad? I don't know.
But what I know is that I have returned his card, he has tested it to be ok, and I should get my full refund.

Here is the ad and conversation with PGV3910:

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tribunal jer bro.... since refund rm50. a bit overated as a seller. as he recieve it back in good condition. if want sell, act like want to sell/let go with humble la... rm50 refund as a lesson way to good. hope u get back your money.



This post has been edited by alexchew_2020: Apr 8 2023, 11:39 AM
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post Apr 8 2023, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Apr 6 2023, 11:19 PM)

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Here is the ad and conversation with PGV3910:

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This may not have started off as a scam, but as of now, it has turned to a scam by a racist seller.

Do observed on the whatsapp pic 8 (@PGV3910 stated he will refund upon receiving the card without conditions) and pic 10 (the start of racist rant by @PGV3910 ).
The scam argument is further reinforced by @PGV3910 threat of false claims "if not ok..i accuse u ruins my card". Furthermore, after receiving the card back and by own admittance the card is fine, choose not to refund.

Bro PGV3910, your reputation of many years in this forum is only worth RM 200 with the racist rant?

eitherway, selamat berpuasa.


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post Apr 8 2023, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 8 2023, 11:43 AM)
This may not have started off as a scam, but as of now, it has turned to a scam by a racist seller.

Do observed on the whatsapp pic 8 (@PGV3910 stated he will refund upon receiving the card without conditions) and pic 10 (the start of racist rant by @PGV3910 ).
The scam argument is further reinforced by @PGV3910 threat of false claims  "if not ok..i accuse u ruins my card". Furthermore, after receiving the card back and by own admittance the card is fine, choose not to refund.

Bro  PGV3910, your reputation of many years in this forum is only worth RM 200 with the racist rant?

eitherway, selamat berpuasa.
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Another so called inspector...reputation?? For what??
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post Apr 8 2023, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(alexchew_2020 @ Apr 8 2023, 11:38 AM)
tribunal jer bro.... since refund rm50.  a bit overated as a seller. as he recieve it back in good condition. if want sell, act like want to sell/let go with humble la... rm50 refund as a lesson way to good. hope u get back your money.
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No need tribunal..suruh je TS report polis, jumpa mahkamah
U sembang lebat sini buang masa
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post Apr 8 2023, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(PGV3910 @ Apr 8 2023, 11:48 AM)
Another so called inspector...reputation?? For what??
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you don't have to focus on calling me names... it is not I whom you conned.

but it is good for all to know that reputation is worthless for you. thumbup.gif

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