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 "Rohingya should be allowed to work in Malaysia"

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netmatrix
post Apr 5 2023, 05:27 PM

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If anyone from anywhere can come here work and do business without needing to go through legal means you happy?

They use stay on someones land, use water/ electricity without paying you happy?

They no IC can do all the things you can even though you born here XX years, you happy?

They no pay tax, but you kena tax since you were born, you happy?

They have no intention to follow the country's laws as simple as cleanliness and dump trash everywhere. You happy?

No one can fine them, because they are not in the system. You happy?

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post Apr 5 2023, 05:29 PM

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got a better solution. Kick them out of malaysia.
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:30 PM

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Are these individuals legitimate war refugees, or are they merely economic refugees who are draining our country's resources?

If we compare their situation to that of Vietnamese refugees in the 1970s and 1980s, we can see that the government at that time sent them to isolated islands where they had to fend for themselves, with no access to other areas.

The government of that time monitored their movements closely. Once the situation improved, all of the refugees were repatriated to their home country without exception. Every single of them included their children that born in Malaysia too.

Given the precedent set by the repatriation of Vietnamese refugees in the past, it is puzzling why our current government allows economic refugees to roam freely without repercussions. They are not held accountable for driving without a license, staying without a visa, and moving around Malaysia without close monitoring of their movements.

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post Apr 5 2023, 05:30 PM

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Employers: "Are they willing to work hard and not rebel?"

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Sha91
post Apr 5 2023, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(keong_boy @ Apr 5 2023, 05:07 PM)
I don't get it, we allowed them into our country, but don't allow them to work? Are we planning to send them back or allow them to stay? If it's the later, then let them work laaa
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Corruptions and weak border security (again as a result of corruptions). They paid a huge amount of money to get in anyway, to get the refugee status and eventually to the third country ie. US, Australia.

They cannot be sent back as it against the non refoulement principle, that refugees or asylum seekers cannot be deported back as they are vulnerable to be persecuted.

To let them work is very hard due to local sentiment when in reality, locals don't do odd jobs.

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post Apr 5 2023, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Apr 5 2023, 05:25 PM)
Stuck apanya? They sendiri paid money to come here illegally apa kejadah stuck? Can afford to come but can't afford to go back home?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5370132
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Those are likely their life savings. Do you think Myammar or Bangladesh are a rich country to begin with?

Or you think people suka suka uproot themselves to a country without a job?

Maybe a few really got money, but the rest are just average/poor people (from an already poor country)
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sha91 @ Apr 5 2023, 05:21 PM)
They need not to compete because locals do not want the job anyway. Locals working at Pasar Selayang, really?

Government sponsored? Malaysian government? Sponsor? Haha. No. It is the NGOs  assist, of course not entirely. Maybe in terms of health and education. They work illegally anyway to survive.
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Pay enough and people will work, we already have problem with low local wage and you want to make it even lower by letting refugees work.

Government, NGO or UNHCR assist still don't change the fact that they can afford to take job at lower wage since part of their living cost already covered unlike locals.

If they work illegally then they need to be deported and the employers penalized for employing them without proper documentation.
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Xith @ Apr 5 2023, 05:30 PM)

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The question is where to after this? For Rohingya, Malaysia seems more like a forever home then a temporary refuge.
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:37 PM

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Rohingya should not be in Malaysia.
deport all.

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post Apr 5 2023, 05:38 PM

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fuk no, deport them all
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:42 PM

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why la no one take any action and force the shitheads responsible like Myanmar gomen and UNHCR to actually do their work? some rohingya edi stay and settled here 20+ years edi
these 20+ years Mesia gomen do what on rohingya matter? goyang telor saudara?
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ Apr 5 2023, 05:37 PM)
Pay enough and people will work, we already have problem with low local wage and you want to make it even lower by letting refugees work.

Government, NGO or UNHCR assist still don't change the fact that they can afford to take job at lower wage since part of their living cost already covered unlike locals.

If they work illegally then they need to be deported and the employers penalized for employing them without proper documentation.
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There are a ton of jobs in Malaysia that are not done by local, but instead by Bangla or Indon.

So instead of getting bangla or indon to do the work, why not get the rohingya to do it?
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:44 PM

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leftycall9
post Apr 5 2023, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 5 2023, 05:34 PM)
Those are likely their life savings. Do you think Myammar or Bangladesh are a rich country to begin with?

Or you think people suka suka uproot themselves to a country without a job?

Maybe a few really got money, but the rest are just average/poor people (from an already poor country)
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Dah tau miskin why the hell you wanna blow up your lifetime savings by becoming illegal immigrant in other countries? If it's not stupid then what else?
Privileged morons who thinks everyone in this world owes them everything? Just because they're miskin doesn't mean they have absolute right to break Malaysia laws.
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(bukankhadam @ Apr 5 2023, 05:42 PM)
why la no one take any action and force the shitheads responsible like Myanmar gomen and UNHCR to actually do their work? some rohingya edi stay and settled here 20+ years edi
these 20+ years Mesia gomen do what on rohingya matter? goyang telor saudara?
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20+ apa?
It's 40+ years la

Satan Fallen One
post Apr 5 2023, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(askingquestion @ Apr 5 2023, 05:44 PM)
There are a ton of jobs in Malaysia that are not done by local, but instead by Bangla or Indon.

So instead of getting bangla or indon to do the work, why not get the rohingya to do it?
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I don't even agree with employers hiring Indons and Banglas because again they compete with locals for employment while allowing employers to get away with paying less than local living wage.
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Apr 5 2023, 05:45 PM)
Dah tau miskin why the hell you wanna blow up your lifetime savings by becoming illegal immigrant in other countries? If it's not stupid then what else?
Privileged morons who thinks everyone in this world owes them everything? Just because they're miskin doesn't mean they have absolute right to break Malaysia laws.
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If Malaysia suddenly non stop race riot, everyday like May 13, or like Indon 1998 riots, would you not sell everything you own and run? Like I said, you think people suka suka leave their own country to another country for fun ah?

Yes, we don't owe them shit. But they are here already. If they don't get legal jobs, they will go find illegal job, or steal/rob/scam whatever to survive.
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:53 PM

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Rohingya tidak sesuai jadi pekerja estet

PUTRAJAYA: Etnik Rohingya yang berada di negara tidak sesuai dijadikan pekerja ladang kelapa sawit kerana hasilnya dikatakan jauh lebih teruk berbanding rakyat asing dari negara lain.

Malah, Pengarah Urusan Kumpulan Sime Darby Plantation Berhad, Mohamad Helmy Othman Basha mendakwa, pendatang tersebut juga lebih teruk daripada pekerja tempatan sendiri.

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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ Apr 5 2023, 05:51 PM)
I don't even agree with employers hiring Indons and Banglas because again they compete with locals for employment while allowing employers to get away with paying less than local living wage.
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Don't think all these bangla or indon are earning minimum wage.

Alot of these hard labour work actually pays alot, but no Malaysian willing to do it.
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post Apr 5 2023, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Apr 5 2023, 05:25 PM)
Stuck apanya? They sendiri paid money to come here illegally apa kejadah stuck? Can afford to come but can't afford to go back home?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5370132
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Tak ada duit sendiri pun tak apa. Kan ada saudara dorang yang dah lama duduk sini. Just sent money back Myanmar to help their relative come here.
Dah kata not only must allow only the mom and dad, they will send message back Myanmar to ask all sekampung datang Msia. They have a network here, undand2 sini pun bukan pro sgt nak shut their network down. Lantak lah

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