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post Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM, updated 3y ago

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BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan and provided throw 100k as down payment. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
Mercedes GLC200, GLC250, GLC300
Volvo XC60

In b4 /k always says if TS need to ask then it means TS cannot afford tongue.gif

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post Apr 5 2023, 02:50 PM

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How old are u first? Have family d or not
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:51 PM

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New GLC300 launching today
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
Mercedes GLC200, GLC250, GLC300
Volvo XC60

In b4 /k always says if TS need to ask then it means TS cannot afford  tongue.gif
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xc60 - full adas ftw.
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(LinkZ @ Apr 5 2023, 02:50 PM)
How old are u first? Have family d or not
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If have family dont go for conti cause later no car use?
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
Mercedes GLC200, GLC250, GLC300
Volvo XC60

In b4 /k always says if TS need to ask then it means TS cannot afford  tongue.gif
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BMW = Bring Me Workshop.
Mercedes = Mazda Logo Terbalik.
Volvo = For Life.
TSNothinUnusual
post Apr 5 2023, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2023, 02:51 PM)
New GLC300 launching today
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New cannot afford weh.

QUOTE(47100 @ Apr 5 2023, 02:51 PM)
xc60 - full adas ftw.
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X percaya ADAS la. Hand control the best. I like Volvo the best among the list but takut the most cause it's hybrid.
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Apr 5 2023, 02:51 PM)
BMW = Bring Me Workshop.
Mercedes = Mazda Logo Terbalik.
Volvo = For Life.
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Volvo = For Life cause buy one time kena tipu wont buy again? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
Mercedes GLC200, GLC250, GLC300
Volvo XC60

In b4 /k always says if TS need to ask then it means TS cannot afford  tongue.gif
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I voted merc. Dont know Volvo reliability.
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM

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X50 .. is it not bmw?
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM

 
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Apr 5 2023, 02:51 PM)
Volvo = Geely = Proton
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Apr 5 2023, 02:52 PM)
I voted merc. Dont know Volvo reliability.
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Actually Merc GLC300 is the lowest in my wishlist..cause the interior cantik tapi sempit. Ride also not comfortable cause suspension keras.
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Wahlberg @ Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM)
X50 .. is it not bmw?
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No spare parts.
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:52 PM)
New cannot afford weh.

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Oh if sekenhen get bmw, the b48 engine very strong not much issue. Already proven since 2015
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM)
Fixed.
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM)
Oh if sekenhen get bmw, the b48 engine very strong not much issue. Already proven since 2015
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Ya the engine and gearbox kinda proven to be reliable. Yang I takut is other parts la like electronics and shits. But then all 3 brands macam sama je.
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Apr 5 2023, 02:54 PM)
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post Apr 5 2023, 02:55 PM

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I actually had the same decision to make last year, i went for the volvo

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post Apr 5 2023, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
Mercedes GLC200, GLC250, GLC300
Volvo XC60

In b4 /k always says if TS need to ask then it means TS cannot afford  tongue.gif
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if got $$ for long term maintenance I will go for volvo, else merc.

bmw is a no no
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:54 PM)
Ya the engine and gearbox kinda proven to be reliable. Yang I takut is other parts la like electronics and shits. But then all 3 brands macam sama je.
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Should be fine lah.
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My Volvo S90 Recharge is pretty reliable. Service is better compared to BMW I feel (we have F30 and G20, G30 as well in our circle)
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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Apr 5 2023, 02:55 PM)
I actually had the same decision to make last year, i went for the volvo
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Wow lembu is here. How was the car? I heard a lot of software issues since they changed to Google OS weh.

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:55 PM)
Apa lanciau?
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ok la I put cheaper one, BAC mono
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QUOTE(danieln @ Apr 5 2023, 02:56 PM)
if got $$ for long term maintenance I will go for volvo, else merc.

bmw is a no no
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Why no no for BMW?

QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2023, 02:56 PM)
Should be fine lah.
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Sure or not. I always see BMW on the tow truck weh.

QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Apr 5 2023, 02:56 PM)
My Volvo S90 Recharge is pretty reliable. Service is better compared to BMW I feel (we have F30 and G20, G30 as well in our circle)
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But battery how after 10 years? Takut weh. Electronics banyak..reliability how? How long have you owned the car ya?
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Apr 5 2023, 02:57 PM)
ok la I put cheaper one, BAC mono
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X pernah dengar weh.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:57 PM)
Why no no for BMW?
Sure or not. I always see BMW on the tow truck weh.
But battery how after 10 years? Takut weh. Electronics banyak..reliability how? How long have you owned the car ya?
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For Volvo, just over a year, bought new.

Battery warranty is 8 years, apa takut? But I plan to change cars every 4 years if economy permits.

Rarely you’ll hear issues with Volvo cars especially after Geely took over.
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Apr 5 2023, 02:59 PM)
For Volvo, just over a year, bought new.

Battery warranty is 8 years, apa takut? But I plan to change cars every 4 years if economy permits.

Rarely you’ll hear issues with Volvo cars especially after Geely took over.
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I cannot change car every 4 years weh. After 8 years later need to fork out 70k to change battery then die lo.

I also rarely hear issues with Volvo..but not sure if it really kurang rosak or cause not many ppl driving it. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:56 PM)
Wow lembu is here. How was the car? I heard a lot of software issues since they changed to Google OS weh.
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Google OS was buggy during the first 5 months of my ownership from Jan ‘22 until about mid June. Too much data disconnection issue.

Ever since then, I can confidently say…. Bug free. Most of the time I’ll just connect to apple car play since google OS only has maps and no Waze. CarPlay is smooth like butter too
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Apr 5 2023, 03:01 PM)
Google OS was buggy during the first 5 months of my ownership from Jan ‘22 until about mid June. Too much data disconnection issue.

Ever since then, I can confidently say…. Bug free. Most of the time I’ll just connect to apple car play since google OS only has maps and no Waze. CarPlay is smooth like butter too
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I am surprised many voted Volvo. Ingat /k suka BMW and Mercs? I am a bit worried on the repair cost la after warranty...cause Volvo parts x banyak OEM unlike BMW and Mercs hmm.gif
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wait for tesla....
once established supercharger network .....

model Y
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Apr 5 2023, 03:02 PM)
wait for tesla....
once established supercharger network .....

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Volvo XC60 famous for transmission problem & climate control problem.
100 XC60 owner, 77 complaint these 2 problem.


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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 5 2023, 03:03 PM)
Volvo XC60 famous for transmission problem & climate control problem.
100 XC60 owner, 77 complaint these 2 problem.
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Wadafak. Which year punya model? Or currently also have same issue? Or is it easily fixed? Fix under warranty then kau tim liao?
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:00 PM)
I cannot change car every 4 years weh. After 8 years later need to fork out 70k to change battery then die lo.

I also rarely hear issues with Volvo..but not sure if it really kurang rosak or cause not many ppl driving it. hmm.gif
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If you’re the type to worry about battery costs then you shouldn’t consider PHEV or EVs in the first place.

Kalau takut sangat dgn reliability, then consider Lexus if budget permits. My buddy drives a 2019 ES250. very luxurious, just very outdated infotainment and slower pick up speed.
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Volvo. Look most solid among the 3. Reliability wise, no different for all 3. Prepare to masuk workshop often.

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Apr 5 2023, 03:04 PM)
If you’re the type to worry about battery costs then you shouldn’t consider PHEV or EVs in the first place.

Kalau takut sangat dgn reliability, then consider Lexus if budget permits. My buddy drives a 2019 ES250. very luxurious, just very outdated infotainment and slower pick up speed.
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Ya but Volvo only T5 is non hybrid...but T5 missing a lot of features =(

I tried the new Lexus..quite good but no hnghhhh feel when driving.

Also NX feels kinda cramped...need to go until RX which is way overbudget.

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Apr 5 2023, 03:05 PM)
Volvo. Look most solid among the 3. Reliability wise, no different for all 3. Prepare to masuk workshop often.
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Prepare 10-15k a year enough to masuk workshop mou?
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:52 PM)
Volvo = For Life cause buy one time kena tipu wont buy again? tongue.gif
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If you notice, most Volvo owners will keep on buying Volvo's after that.
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Apr 5 2023, 03:10 PM)
If you notice, most Volvo owners will keep on buying Volvo's after that.
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Sure bro? Got 1 /k here say Volvo have transmission problem & climate control problem.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:06 PM)
Prepare 10-15k a year enough to masuk workshop mou?
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Ada vsa5+

Volvo for life. Xc40 👀
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Read in XC60 FB group if you forgot to start your car after 4 days need to tow to service centre for fixing. This electronic thing ahh...

BMW X3 my choice...
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Apr 5 2023, 03:11 PM)
Ada vsa5+

Volvo for life. Xc40 👀
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Apa tu VSA5+? Warranty for 5 years? After that leh?

X mau XC40...tu EV sial.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:04 PM)
Wadafak. Which year punya model? Or currently also have same issue? Or is it easily fixed? Fix under warranty then kau tim liao?
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The survey are US version.
Model are latest 2022 XC60

BTW , 100 user 100 compliant about XC60 Electronic, computer chip (brain) of the car. The most fragile item, always gives problem.

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:11 PM)
Sure bro? Got 1 /k here say Volvo have transmission problem & climate control problem.
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Proton ah? = Geely = Volvo.
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QUOTE(azlanys1 @ Apr 5 2023, 03:12 PM)
Read in XC60 FB group if you forgot to start your car after 4 days need to tow to service centre for fixing. This electronic thing ahh...

BMW X3 my choice...
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Electronic shits right...that's why I am also leaning towards X3 but I am surprise /k picked Volvo.

QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 5 2023, 03:13 PM)
The survey are US version.
Model are latest 2022 XC60

BTW , 100 user 100 compliant about XC60 Electronic, computer chip (brain) of the car. The most fragile item, always gives problem.
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Ya lo that's what I heard and read also..mostly electronic issues. What would you pick out of the 3?

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I cannot look at Volvo knowing its CCP hence Merc or BMW but those designers at Volvo have to say know how to make fantastic interiors
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Apr 5 2023, 03:13 PM)
Proton ah? = Geely = Volvo.
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Uiii x sama bro.

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I cannot look at Volvo knowing its CCP  hence Merc or BMW but those designers at Volvo have to say know how to make fantastic interiors
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Exterior and interior looks damn good weh for Volvo...dont care CCP or not la tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:12 PM)
Apa tu VSA5+? Warranty for 5 years? After that leh?

X mau XC40...tu EV sial.
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After that do whatever you want lo. Like any other car, either outside third party or continue with official service.

Xc40 for 3 variant la. B5 petrol, T5 phev and P8 bev
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glc 250 or up... else not recommended.. not yet drive x3 so cant say.. but volvo
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Apr 5 2023, 03:19 PM)
After that do whatever you want lo. Like any other car, either outside third party or continue with official service.

Xc40 for 3 variant la. B5 petrol, T5 phev and P8 bev
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Oh..dont wan XC40 la too small. Ada experience how much need to prepare yearly for repair after warranty?
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QUOTE(Alpina @ Apr 5 2023, 03:19 PM)
glc 250 or up... else not recommended.. not yet drive x3 so cant say.. but volvo
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Apasal need 250 and up? but Volvo apa?

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Prepare 10-15k a year enough to masuk workshop mou?
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If you have to ask this, all 3 not suitable for you. Get a Lexus or Harrier kau tim la.

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:57 PM)
Sure or not. I always see BMW on the tow truck weh.

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Very rarely see b48 models on tow truck lah. Those older e90 gens maybe lah

Higher chance of needing to spend 10k repairs on a ford or peugeot compared to bmw

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Apr 5 2023, 03:20 PM)
If you have to ask this, all 3 not suitable for you. Get a Lexus or Harrier kau tim la.
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Yer Harrier. Lexus can fikir la but no hgnnngh feel. Need to ask ma..although can afford but need to prepare heart.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2023, 03:21 PM)
Very rarely see b48 models on tow truck lah. Those older e90 gens maybe lah
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My boss punya old 318i I don't know apa engine model always makan engine oil weh...he also buy second hand la.
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Heard it from a previous g30 and f15 owner that bmw memang banyak masalah, but he still bought a g12 eventually. iinm w205 and x253 are using the same gearbox, and the gearbox on my w205 sometimes acts like it doesn't know which gear to change to. Suspension pun quite stiff.
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QUOTE(ratloverice @ Apr 5 2023, 03:22 PM)
Heard it from a previous g30 and f15 owner that bmw memang banyak masalah, but he still bought a g12 eventually. iinm w205 and x253 are using the same gearbox, and the gearbox on my w205 sometimes acts like it doesn't know which gear to change to. Suspension pun quite stiff.
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So which would you pick?

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:22 PM)
My boss punya old 318i I don't know apa engine model always makan engine oil weh...he also buy second hand la.
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318i not b48 ma. If ada oil consumption issue also just need to replace the valve cover gasket rubber thing only

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if pre-owned then best value is xc60

if u plan to use it for another 8 years (as it wont hold value well)

if short term then benzi
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2023, 03:23 PM)
318i not b48 ma
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Ohh..ya ka. Other than engine and gearbox...other parts rosak probably...wont cost kidney?
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:14 PM)
Electronic shits right...that's why I am also leaning towards X3 but I am surprise /k picked Volvo.
Ya lo that's what I heard and read also..mostly electronic issues.
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You can go Volvo Aa Damansara showroom (HQ)
Alot XC60 used model for sell. All brand new less than 20k mileage. I just when to show room last week tested the used V60 Recharge but the colour (Black) is not I wanted. All V60 Malaysia model comes with Harman Kardon sound system, Had to Add Rm15k for Bowers & Wilkins sound system.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:24 PM)
Ohh..ya ka. Other than engine and gearbox...other parts rosak probably...wont cost kidney?
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Can guarantee wont hit 10k a year one.

Nak save even more can buy spare parts off shopee or ebay

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Apr 5 2023, 03:24 PM)
if pre-owned then best value is xc60

if u plan to use it for another 8 years (as it wont hold value well)

if short term then benzi
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Plan to use long term lo..unless the car dies on me cry.gif

No plan to sell also so resell value not important to me.

I tested drive all 3 of them..BMW > Volvo > Merc. Normal maintenance cost are similar as well.

Cuma reliability and repair cost I don't know which 1 is better.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 5 2023, 03:24 PM)
You can go Volvo Aa Damansara showroom (HQ)
Alot XC60 used model for sell. All brand new less than 20k mileage. I just when to show room last week tested the used V60 Recharge but the colour (Black) is not I wanted. All V60 Malaysia model comes with Harman Kardon sound system, Had to Add Rm15k for Bowers & Wilkins sound system.
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You also want to buy Volvo? Aiya..Volvo not reliable?

QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 5 2023, 03:25 PM)
Can guarantee wont hit 10k a year one.

Nak save even more can buy spare parts off shopee or ebay
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Oh ya ka..I ingat electronics need like few k to repair one?

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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Apr 5 2023, 03:27 PM)
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Ayam surprise /k picked Volvo out of the 3..I ingat BMW and Mercs more wangi? But got few ppl commented Volvo not reliabile...takut jugak..
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan and provided throw 100k as down payment. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
Mercedes GLC200, GLC250, GLC300
Volvo XC60

In b4 /k always says if TS need to ask then it means TS cannot afford  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:23 PM)
So which would you pick?
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X3 -> GLC300 -> XC60 T8

Volvo cars banyak bosan to me mainly because of the 180km/h speed limit.


Anyway for spare parts, here's an example for you... Last time a merc SC quoted me RM2k+ to change the 3-pointed star emblem on the front grill of my car. Eventually I bought an ori emblem from stuttgart parts at RM900 and got a third-party workshop to install it at RM100+.

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Why suv?
I’d rather get the V60.
That’sa damn sexy estate car.
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for u , this one bestest

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QUOTE(ratloverice @ Apr 5 2023, 03:28 PM)
X3 -> GLC300 -> XC60 T8

Volvo cars banyak bosan to me mainly because of the 180km/h speed limit.
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Other than bosan mia reason? I don't drive super fast tho...140-160 cukup la...

QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 5 2023, 03:29 PM)
Why suv?
I’d rather get the V60.
That’sa damn sexy estate car.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 5 2023, 03:28 PM)
for u , this one bestest

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:52 PM)
New cannot afford weh.
X percaya ADAS la. Hand control the best. I like Volvo the best among the list but takut the most cause it's hybrid.
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Sounds like you not the kind of people who will enjoy a Volvo la. Dont want ADAS, scare high tech stuff, scare battery, scare electronic stuff... This day this age, learn to embrace technology, even old boring toyota push out car with ADAS and lot more electronics and tech already, how long can you run and hide wor?

Why bother driving the car on jam road and long drive on highway when the car can do the driving by itself, if you scare L2 driving, can just enjoy the ACC and control steering only. Get the XC60 inscription plus package la, the B&W speakers really amazing.

But from your chat, seems like you more suited for BMW.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 5 2023, 03:24 PM)
You can go Volvo Aa Damansara showroom (HQ)
Alot XC60 used model for sell. All brand new less than 20k mileage. I just when to show room last week tested the used V60 Recharge but the colour (Black) is not I wanted. All V60 Malaysia model comes with Harman Kardon sound system, Had to Add Rm15k for Bowers & Wilkins sound system.
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how much different compare new and used?
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
In b4 /k always says if TS need to ask then it means TS cannot afford  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Apr 5 2023, 03:30 PM)
Sounds like you not the kind of people who will enjoy a Volvo la. Dont want ADAS, scare high tech stuff, scare battery, scare electronic stuff... This day this age, learn to embrace technology, even old boring toyota push out car with ADAS and lot more electronics and tech already, how long can you run and hide wor?

Why bother driving the car on jam road and long drive on highway when the car can do the driving by itself, if you scare L2 driving, can just enjoy the ACC and control steering only. Get the XC60 inscription plus package la, the B&W speakers really amazing.

But from your chat, seems like you more suited for BMW.
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No leh, my current car also got ADAS but I don't find it useful. It's just that I banyak takut kereta masuk kilang then very sien. So you can also say "Aiya TS takut kereta rosak when bother to buy conti, buy Toyota je"...but u know la...dream ma to own a conti car.

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:29 PM)
Ohhh kereta kebal ni. Classic treasure. I used to ride my classmate's mother punya..wa the car damn steady but makan petrol macam t-rex.
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QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 5 2023, 03:30 PM)
Double hnnngh and can mod into Bangwagon
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Amongst the 3, BMW has the shittiest support. You go to their 3S is like going to Proton 3S. My choice is Volvo which have improved their support in the last few years by leaps and bounds. As regards to hybrid, once you have it, you will not want go back to pure ICE. It is also a safe midway to full EV.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:06 PM)
Prepare 10-15k a year enough to masuk workshop mou?
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unker using xc90, unker fren that drive xc90 says hoh, you need about 30k for first year to zhap the car, then second year onwards should be about 10 - 20 k per year, the if all lucky hoh, only 6k per year for normal maintanance. First 1 or 2 years for sekenhen is liddat one lar, a lot to zhap.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:53 PM)
Actually Merc GLC300 is the lowest in my wishlist..cause the interior cantik tapi sempit. Ride also not comfortable cause suspension keras.
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have u test drive the clubman?

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xc60 - too many tech and hybrid conti usually cost bomb to repair
bmw x3 - never drive
glc - i driven w205 C200 & currently owned w213 E200, both using m274 engine which very reliable. so fast i just change oil and some wear and tear. This also explain why so many C w205 on the road. I think Glc 200 & 250 is using the same m274. Try to avoid 48V EQ boost, to me is unreliable.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:29 PM)
Other than bosan mia reason? I don't drive super fast tho...140-160 cukup la...
TS fat...SUV easier to climb on tongue.gif
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That's the only reason for me.

I was veryyyyy interested in s60 t8 eh until i saw the 180km/h speed limit
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QUOTE(ceras @ Apr 5 2023, 03:33 PM)
Amongst the 3, BMW has the shittiest support. You go to their 3S is like going to Proton 3S. My choice is Volvo which have improved their support in the last few years by leaps and bounds. As regards to hybrid, once you have it, you will not want go back to pure ICE.  It is also a safe midway to full EV.
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Ingat BMW high class sikit service and support better punya? I am okay with hybrid la..just that Volvo macam more electronics than the other 2 takut always rosak.

QUOTE(Duperaider @ Apr 5 2023, 03:33 PM)
unker using xc90, unker fren that drive xc90 says hoh, you need about 30k for first year to zhap the car, then second year onwards should be about 10 - 20 k per year, the if all lucky hoh, only 6k per year for normal maintanance. First 1 or 2 years for sekenhen is liddat one lar, a lot to zhap.
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Wa uncle, need so much to zap ah? 3 years only wo? Maybe send to service center let them zap since ada warranty?
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 5 2023, 03:34 PM)
have u test drive the clubman?

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I tried but I don't like it. My gf likes Mini Cooper tho.

QUOTE(mywishistopawn @ Apr 5 2023, 03:34 PM)
xc60 - too many tech and hybrid conti usually cost bomb to repair
bmw x3 - never drive
glc - i driven w205 C200 & currently owned w213 E200, both using m274 engine which very reliable. so fast i just change oil and some wear and tear. This also explain why so many C w205 on the road. I think Glc 200 & 250 is using the same m274. Try to avoid 48V EQ boost, to me is unreliable.
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Eh but 2020 onward GLC macam still ada 48V EQ boost? How long have you owned the car ya? Any big repair like need few k to repair one?

QUOTE(ratloverice @ Apr 5 2023, 03:34 PM)
That's the only reason for me.

I was veryyyyy interested in s60 t8 eh until i saw the 180km/h speed limit
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Wa bro drive so fast go Holland ke?

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TS fat...SUV easier to climb on tongue.gif

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:31 PM)
No leh, my current car also got ADAS but I don't find it useful. It's just that I banyak takut kereta masuk kilang then very sien. So you can also say "Aiya TS takut kereta rosak when bother to buy conti, buy Toyota je"...but u know la...dream ma to own a conti car.
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You buy what not for me to judge la, not spending my money. If you dream of conti, go get BMW la. Volvo's badge not conti enough. But personally, i'll go for XC60, simple and nice car with amazing speaker. GLC interior ... i see already OMG, long overdue for new version already. BMW not familar nth to comment.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:36 PM)
I tried but I don't like it. My gf likes Mini Cooper tho.
Eh but 2020 onward GLC macam still ada 48V EQ boost?
Wa bro drive so fast go Holland ke?
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I usually drive around 140 je on highway, but sometimes when the traffic is okay, boleh tekan extra sikit la.
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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Apr 5 2023, 03:37 PM)
You buy what not for me to judge la, not spending my money. If you dream of conti, go get BMW la. Volvo's badge not conti enough. But personally, i'll go for XC60, simple and nice car with amazing speaker. GLC interior ... i see already OMG, long overdue for new version already. BMW not familar nth to comment.
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No worries la, this is /k ma, we share share opinions punya. I also like to hear different kind of experiences and opinions.

I like the interior and look for all 3 also. Just looking for opinions in terms of repair cost haha
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:27 PM)
You also want to buy Volvo? Aiya..Volvo not reliable?
Oh ya ka..I ingat electronics need like few k to repair one?
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I like hybrid car plus I love Station Wagon even more, which curretly Volvo are only still selling in Malaysia.
Looking + waiting for used thunder grey version from Volvo show room. BTW, Volvo depreciation value are the highest among 3. 60k price drop in one year.

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QUOTE(ratloverice @ Apr 5 2023, 03:38 PM)
I usually drive around 140 je on highway, but sometimes when the traffic is okay, boleh tekan extra sikit la.
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SUV x ngam u bro, should get sports car terus.

QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 5 2023, 03:39 PM)
I like hybrid car plus I love Station Wagon even more, which curretly Volvo are only still selling in Malaysia.
Looking + waiting for used thunder grey version from Volvo show room. BTW, Volvo depreciation value are the highest among 3. 60k price drop in one year.
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Depreciate cause always rosak or brand x wangi? If the latter one I don't mind cause I plan to ride this baby for a long time.
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A simple drivetrain would be better than a complex one

Merc or BMW

When the Volvo drivetrain gets sick, you are in trouble

BMW interiors are quite boring, if you’ve owned one. But, if not, it’s fine

GLC is the nicest outside.
Volvo is the nicest inside
But the x3 has the best drivetrain


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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:41 PM)
SUV x ngam u bro, should get sports car terus.
Depreciate cause always rosak or brand x wangi? If the latter one I don't mind cause I plan to ride this baby for a long time.
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No money sad.gif sad.gif Aiming for m340i/clubman jcw next...
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:41 PM)
SUV x ngam u bro, should get sports car terus.
Depreciate cause always rosak or brand x wangi? If the latter one I don't mind cause I plan to ride this baby for a long time.
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That's what they always say la. Next year eyeing some other beauties already.

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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Apr 5 2023, 03:41 PM)
A simple drivetrain would be better than a complex one

Merc or BMW

When the Volvo drivetrain gets sick, you are in trouble

BMW interiors are quite boring, if you’ve owned one. But, if not, it’s fine

GLC is the nicest outside.
Volvo is the nicest inside
But the x3 has the best drivetrain
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I like the interior and exterior of all 3...but driving comfort wise I will rate GLC as lowest..very bumpy and cramp mia feeling.

I dont know how reliable Merc and Volvo punya drivetrain is hmm.gif I know BMW punya B48 and ZF is quite reliable.
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Apr 5 2023, 03:43 PM)
That's what they always say la. Next year eyeing some other beauties already.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:34 PM)
Ingat BMW high class sikit service and support better punya? I am okay with hybrid la..just that Volvo macam more electronics than the other 2 takut always rosak.
Wa uncle, need so much to zap ah? 3 years only wo? Maybe send to service center let them zap since ada warranty?
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I have owned all 3 brands before. Not to put down any brand, for some, I will never go back to them again. But don't take my word for it. Just pop into any of the 3S and you should be able to feel the difference right away. It comes with the culture.
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QUOTE(ceras @ Apr 5 2023, 03:44 PM)
I have owned all 3 brands before. Not to put down any brand, for some, I will never go back to them again.  But don't take my word for it. Just pop into any of the 3S and you should be able to feel the difference right away. It comes with the culture.
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Hey no worries, we are here to share opinions and experiences. Since you have owned all 3 brands before, which 1 is the least reliable and gives u most headache?
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That's the only reason for me.

I was veryyyyy interested in s60 t8 eh until i saw the 180km/h speed limit
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I usually drive around 140 je on highway, but sometimes when the traffic is okay, boleh tekan extra sikit la.
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can pay outside to override the 180km limit. but prepare to (most probably) void warranty. thou technically you can quite easily change back the settings before claiming warranty.
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From here I can gather this:

BMW - drivetrain reliable but service center and support sucks
Volvo - drivetrain and electronic reliability is in question but everything else is superb
Mercs - good support and service center but reliability unknown
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can pay outside to override the 180km limit. but prepare to (most probably) void warranty. thou technically you can quite easily change back the settings before claiming warranty.
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with the right software you can DIY at home .. one of the members did it .. but of course warranty void .. to me 180 more than enough, NSE not much chance to speed anyway, always will have car randomly cut out of hog the fast lane .. what's important is the way it accelerates 100-180
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QUOTE(hungrygodzilla @ Apr 5 2023, 03:45 PM)
can pay outside to override the 180km limit. but prepare to (most probably) void warranty. thou technically you can quite easily change back the settings before claiming warranty.
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Won't the SC be able to detect it? Knn last time a SA said to me that the SC can easily detect it and void warranty.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:36 PM)
I tried but I don't like it. My gf likes Mini Cooper tho.
Eh but 2020 onward GLC macam still ada 48V EQ boost? How long have you owned the car ya? Any big repair like need few k to repair one?
Wa bro drive so fast go Holland ke?
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Look like GLC300 don't have. I driven the w205 for 2 yrs+ then upgrade to w213 recently.
Biggest repair was the alternator Borsch RM2,800 with installation, else just wear and tear.
Tukar minyak hitam with filter pun RM500-RM700.
Gear oil with filter - rm 1k +
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:37 PM)
Wa diu ini need dato level to afford weh.
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QUOTE(mywishistopawn @ Apr 5 2023, 03:49 PM)
Look like GLC300 don't have. I driven the w205 for 2 yrs+ then upgrade to w213 recently.
Biggest repair was the alternator Borsch RM2,800 with installation, else just wear and tear.
Tukar minyak hitam with filter pun RM500-RM700.
Gear oil with filter - rm 1k +
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Oh..but only 2 years+ so probably dont encounter much big repairs. But then yours not under warranty? Alternator considered wear and tear ke?

Thanks for sharing ya!

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan and provided throw 100k as down payment. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
Mercedes GLC200, GLC250, GLC300
Volvo XC60

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Neither. Go all left field and buy this:

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:47 PM)
From here I can gather this:

BMW - drivetrain reliable but service center and support sucks
Volvo - drivetrain and electronic reliability is in question but everything else is superb
Mercs - good support and service center but reliability unknown
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Service centre very ependent on their location .. some branch besar besar but the SC like shit .. takes awhile to find a reliable one .. once you find a good one and kawan kawan with the sales advisor then no problem ..

For me BMW X3 if you don't mind the slightly plain interior .. Drives great, performance won't lose out tooooo much from the volvo ..

Volvo is fast but not 460hp fast, their tuning is more for comfort. Also if you plan to keep it long term, i suggest not to take the volvo as the engine outside mechanic susah nak buat .. supercharged + turbocharged + electric drivetrain .. too complicated .. but if you have the ability to change it before the warranty ends then yes, go ahead and get the volvo ..

Another thing is the volvo FC will be slightly high and the fuel tank is small .. if your daily commute is less than 50km then you will enjoy the pure EV side of the volvo (Provided you rajin charge it daily) .. ooh and even brand new there's some creaks from the door panels (CKD quality) .. but overall great car

skip the merc due to the bad ride comfort and cramped interior
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Ohhh kereta kebal ni. Classic treasure. I used to ride my classmate's mother punya..wa the car damn steady but makan petrol macam t-rex.
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I drove the sedan version with the V6 and mmg drink petrol like water.
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Neither. Go all left field and buy this:

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Won't the SC be able to detect it? Knn last time a SA said to me that the SC can easily detect it and void warranty.
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Service centre very ependent on their location .. some branch besar besar but the SC like shit .. takes awhile to find a reliable one .. once you find a good one and kawan kawan with the sales advisor then no problem ..

For me BMW X3 if you don't mind the slightly plain interior .. Drives great, performance won't lose out tooooo much from the volvo ..

Volvo is fast but not 460hp fast, their tuning is more for comfort. Also if you plan to keep it long term, i suggest not to take the volvo as the engine outside mechanic susah nak buat .. supercharged + turbocharged + electric drivetrain .. too complicated .. but if you have the ability to change it before the warranty ends then yes, go ahead and get the volvo ..

Another thing is the volvo FC will be slightly high and the fuel tank is small .. if your daily commute is less than 50km then you will enjoy the pure EV side of the volvo (Provided you rajin charge it daily) .. ooh and even brand new there's some creaks from the door panels (CKD quality) .. but overall great car

skip the merc due to the bad ride comfort and cramped interior
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Agree with Merc. In my heart I am down to X3 and XC60. Don't really mind of the horsepower or torque cause I think both are quite good adi. I am okay with X3 interior, in fact I like knobs and buttons cause easier to use when driving. I am trying to see which 1 gives me less headache in the long run after warranty ends. I don't really care much on FC also cause SUV and FC don't make much sense. As long as 1L can still go 8-10km then okay dah.

QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 5 2023, 03:54 PM)
I read that as you rode your friends mom in it. Lol
I drove the sedan version with the V6 and mmg drink petrol like water.
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Too bad Volvo don't make tanks like this already.

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Citroen? Bagus meh?
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Not Citroen.

It's DS Automobiles. Supposedly Peugeot SA's premium marque.

Good or not, you have to ask Boy96, /k's French car fan.

But one thing for sure, this one stands out more than BMW, merc or Volvo.

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Not Citroen.

It's DS Automobiles. Supposedly Peugeot SA's premium marque.

Good or not, you have to ask Boy96, /k's French car fan.

But one thing for sure, this one stands out more than BMW, merc or Volvo.
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I see Peugeot and French I am not interested already...maybe I am bias...

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New cannot afford weh.
X percaya ADAS la. Hand control the best. I like Volvo the best among the list but takut the most cause it's hybrid.
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you have the t5 variant, no hybrid, full petrol.
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you have the t5 variant, no hybrid, full petrol.
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Hey no worries, we are here to share opinions and experiences. Since you have owned all 3 brands before, which 1 is the least reliable and gives u most headache?
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Mechanically, I have not faced key issues with the 3 brands. It's the 3S support that literally makes or breaks your day. In terms of ride, BMW gives you most aggression, Volvo the most pleasant, Merc is a bit lost in between trying hard to be both,
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I see Peugeot and French I am not interested already...maybe I am bias...
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Mechanically, I have not faced key issues with the 3 brands. It's the 3S support that literally makes or breaks your day. In terms of ride, BMW gives you most aggression, Volvo the most pleasant, Merc is a bit lost in between trying hard to be both,
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How long have you owned the cars from these brands ya? Anything longer than 6 years?
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Agree with Merc. In my heart I am down to X3 and XC60.
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Once you addict to Volvo Bower & Wilking sound system, habis lah.....no turning back anymore. Only left Benz Burmaster can compete it.
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How long have you owned the cars from these brands ya? Anything longer than 6 years?
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250k you buy new Camry can liao. No need think so much.
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BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan and provided throw 100k as down payment. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

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No tow truck experiences yet.

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250k you buy new Camry can liao. No need think so much.
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My 5 years old Volvo XC60 so far so good.
No tow truck experiences yet.
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I rather cash buy Myvi.
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Then why do you ask Merc BMW Volvo leh
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Cause the question is not what car should I buy with 250k. The question is what car I should choose among 3 ma.

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Agree with Merc. In my heart I am down to X3 and XC60. Don't really mind of the horsepower or torque cause I think both are quite good adi. I am okay with X3 interior, in fact I like knobs and buttons cause easier to use when driving. I am trying to see which 1 gives me less headache in the long run after warranty ends. I don't really care much on FC also cause SUV and FC don't make much sense. As long as 1L can still go 8-10km then okay dah.
Too bad Volvo don't make tanks like this already.
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X3 and XC60 .. ok here's few more points .. X3 .. BMW driving dynamics can't go wrong .. Volvo over some small bumps will feel the suspension cannot settle down properly .. don't get me wrong, it is comfortable. But volvo also much heavier .. that time touge up genting can feel understeer

Volvo touchscreen looks nice and nice to use .. but to be honest, it is a hassle to keep it clean .. and it really is troublesome to adjust the aircond when driving, and the ac control stays there, blocking everything .. so yeah many 'button' presses just to adjust the ac. apple carplay and android auto also abit small due to the potrait orientation.

And drive mode have to adjust through the screen, they removed the knob on the centre console for drive mode selection .. abit mafan
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X3 and XC60 .. ok here's few more points .. X3 .. BMW driving dynamics can't go wrong .. Volvo over some small bumps will feel the suspension cannot settle down properly .. don't get me wrong, it is comfortable. But volvo also much heavier .. that time touge up genting can feel understeer

Volvo touchscreen looks nice and nice to use .. but to be honest, it is a hassle to keep it clean .. and it really is troublesome to adjust the aircond when driving, and the ac control stays there, blocking everything .. so yeah many 'button' presses just to adjust the ac. apple carplay and android auto also abit small due to the potrait orientation.

And drive mode have to adjust through the screen, they removed the knob on the centre console for drive mode selection .. abit mafan
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Hmmm bro..you starting to sound convincing..

Now..X3 electronics banyak problem or not? Which SC good first? X mau nanti macam go proton SC weh..
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Cause the question is not what car should I buy with 250k. The question is what car I should choose among 3 ma.
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Once you addict to Volvo Bower & Wilking sound system, habis lah.....no turning back anymore. Only left Benz Burmaster can compete it.
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Well, my advice is instead of buy conti 2nd hand, buy new Toyota.
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burmester cannot compete lehh  biggrin.gif
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Ok la, thank you for the good advice.
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Seriously, your budget can get even very good Lexus NX recond liao.
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Seriously, your budget can get even very good Lexus NX recond liao.
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I tau. Conti reliability memang cannot fight against Asian cars geh. But then it's kinda my dream to own one la..you can say it's to show off or it's superficial  tongue.gif
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can't remember got harman kardon or not hmm
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Pala otak
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- Bukak thread
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Betul la..takkan tanya pasal Toyota, Honda and Mazda? Confirm tau it's Toyota la.

Plus /k all T20 with 20k income minimum ma..most should own conti car what..so need to tanya sikit.

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Diu, my heart says X3 and XC60 but the poll goes towards XC60 and GLC...so how? XC60 ke?
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burmester cannot compete lehh  biggrin.gif
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Diu, my heart says X3 and XC60 but the poll goes towards XC60 and GLC...so how? XC60 ke?
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bro follow your heart .. here people choose XC60 because price vs spec is very good.. but you mentioned don't use ADAS much then i suggest to go for X3 .. make sure buy cars from sime darby auto because most of the time still have remaining warranty.. take it for a longer test drive and decide again .. sometimes on highway speeds you lift off can feel the engine and gearbox decoupling for energy recuperation.. maybe you will feel X3 smoother especially that B58 engine ..

And make sure to try the XC60 without 0% battery to see how it's like .. maybe you might not like it
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Questions is which Benz offer Burnmester at what price point in Malaysia? Benz potong a lot of things for MY market.
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QUOTE(dumay @ Apr 5 2023, 04:30 PM)
bro follow your heart .. here people choose XC60 because price vs spec is very good.. but you mentioned don't use ADAS much then i suggest to go for X3 .. make sure buy cars from sime darby auto because most of the time still have remaining warranty.. take it for a longer test drive and decide again .. sometimes on highway speeds you lift off can feel the engine and gearbox decoupling for energy recuperation.. maybe you will feel X3 smoother especially that B58 engine ..

And make sure to try the XC60 without 0% battery to see how it's like .. maybe you might not like it
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Good advice bro. Maybe need second round test drive hmm.gif
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make sure it's an extended test drive especially highway speeds (illegal speeds), corners etc... round the block can't really feel the differences. if the salesman knows you're serious they will kasi you 40-50km test drive one
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan and provided throw 100k as down payment. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
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Mercedes GLC but wait for the new one to come out
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Mercedes GLC but wait for the new one to come out
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Why GLC ya bro? Can share your opinion and experience?
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make sure it's an extended test drive especially highway speeds (illegal speeds), corners etc... round the block can't really feel the differences. if the salesman knows you're serious they will kasi you 40-50km test drive one
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I went to test drive both Volvo and BWM at ara damansara there....BMW sales guy ask me to tekan kuat kuat at LDP there but I takut takut hahaha

From my test drive experience BMW driving experience > Volvo but Volvo is more comfort. BMW X3 seat is like bucket seat so a bit uncomfortable for fat ass TS tongue.gif

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Ingat BMW high class sikit service and support better punya? I am okay with hybrid la..just that Volvo macam more electronics than the other 2 takut always rosak.
Wa uncle, need so much to zap ah? 3 years only wo? Maybe send to service center let them zap since ada warranty?
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The problem is that, the items to zhap can cost as much as 5k to 10k, e.g. the electronics not so cheap. if prev owner is careful, then you zhap not so much lar, I have seen some gila gila owner, send to detailer do nice nice, but got a lot to zhap one, coz unker bring a foreman to help to check.
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The problem is that, the items to zhap can cost as much as 5k to 10k, e.g. the electronics not so cheap. if prev owner is careful, then you zhap not so much lar, I have seen some gila gila owner, send to detailer do nice nice, but got a lot to zhap one, coz unker bring a foreman to help to check.
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Wa..Volvo so many electronics problem to zhap ke?

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Mercedes GLC but wait for the new one to come out
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New GLC launching at Akadia on April 8th & 9th.
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New GLC launching at Akadia on April 8th & 9th.
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Wa..Volvo so many electronics problem to zhap ke?
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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Apr 5 2023, 04:48 PM)
hai ar,... conti car all got a lot of system and sub system one. Unker fren drive s400h hor, he say he double work to take care, hybrid system and also combustion engine to take care, all the zhap stuff finish on the first year, drive a bit, some new problem, drive summore a new problem, he zhap about 60k, 2nd year onwards, leng-leng no problem
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Takut nanti 3rd year come new problem hahaha

Uncle ur XC90 got big problem mou? Zhap liao how much?

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Oh..but only 2 years+ so probably dont encounter much big repairs. But then yours not under warranty? Alternator considered wear and tear ke?

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No under warranty sebab I beli time dah umur 5 tahun. Alternator bukan wear and tear but mostly car change by 7+ yrs onwards.
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No under warranty sebab I beli time dah umur 5 tahun. Alternator bukan wear and tear but mostly car change by 7+ yrs onwards.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 03:38 PM)
Why GLC ya bro? Can share your opinion and experience?
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GLC can upgrade sound system to Burmester. I dunno you audiophile or not, Burmester sound system is like putting a live orchestra inside your car. The best car sound system can put in car.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 5 2023, 04:52 PM)
GLC can upgrade sound system to Burmester. I dunno you audiophile or not, Burmester sound system is like putting a live orchestra inside your car. The best car sound system can put in car.
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Not really an audiophile but can definitely appreciate that. Driving and comfort > Reliability > Audio if you ask me hahaha
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:49 PM)
Takut nanti 3rd year come new problem hahaha

Uncle ur XC90 got big problem mou? Zhap liao how much?
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unker bought brand new, coz unker use comp budget, so no problem.

why unker know so much, coz unker neighbour all use 2nd hand conti car

unker remember one neighbour use xc90, he say buy that time 3 year old, now drive for another 3 years jor, he oso said, first he regret like crazy coz first year he spend about 30k +, then come second year also leng leng. His car is like shiny new one.

but seriously, unker should bave bought 2nd hand, coz 3 year old is almost 50% discount for volvo. zhap how much also still save, aishh...... think back oso kek sim abit lah (a bit only)
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:47 PM)
GLC gooding? 2022 mia I tested feel a bit cramp and suspension keras..not comfortable at all.
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It's individual, I'm driving GLC300 coupe. Several features are unavailable in other cars. One of it is both driver and front passenger seats will auto shift forward when rear seats are lowered. I load up goods very often, ard 3 times a week thus this is crucial especially when it rains.

Another is remote start/monitoring via phone app. Tire monitoring, collision alert, GPS tracking etc.

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Apr 5 2023, 04:53 PM)
unker bought brand new, coz unker use comp budget, so no problem.

why unker know so much, coz unker neighbour all use 2nd hand conti car

unker remember one neighbour use xc90, he say buy that time 3 year old, now drive for another 3 years jor, he oso said, first he regret like crazy coz first year he spend about 30k +, then come second year also leng leng. His car is like shiny new one.

but seriously, unker should bave bought 2nd hand, coz 3 year old is almost 50% discount for volvo. zhap how much also still save, aishh...... think back oso kek sim abit lah (a bit only)
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But uncle, ur neighbour bought 3 years old car not got warranty meh? Why need use 30k to zhap? Wa, where to find 50% oh? I see 2020 XC60 T8 Inscription Plus also need 225k weh...
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QUOTE(Xccess @ Apr 5 2023, 04:54 PM)
It's individual, I'm driving GLC300 coupe. Several features are not available in other cars. One such feature is the front passenger seats will auto shift forward when rear seats are lowered. I load up goods as often as 3 times a week thus this is crucial.

Another is remote start/monitoring via phone app. Tire monitoring, collision alert, GPS tracking etc.
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Wa bro nice car, aku jealous. I don't think I can afford that and also cannot get that cause need to fetch family. The back seat roof is too low for family members.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:55 PM)
Wa bro nice car, aku jealous. I don't think I can afford that and also cannot get that cause need to fetch family. The back seat roof is too low for family members.
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Get a SUV since u need to cater for family. I dun have kids thus coupe since sportier.

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:54 PM)
But uncle, ur neighbour bought 3 years old car not got warranty meh? Why need use 30k to zhap? Wa, where to find 50% oh? I see 2020 XC60 T8 Inscription Plus also need 225k weh...
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unker dun remember full details lar, if not mistaken hor, some parts not covered due to wear and tear one, or claim warranty not successful gua, unless unker ask him what is the exact item lar.
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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Apr 5 2023, 04:57 PM)
unker dun remember full details lar, if not mistaken hor, some parts not covered due to wear and tear one, or claim warranty not successful gua, unless unker ask him what is the exact item lar.
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I see I see..nowadays second hand car also mahal giler.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:51 PM)
Oh, so the car about 7 years old adi? Like that not bad wo...not even need 10k yearly to repair tongue.gif
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Yeah, that why u nampak banyak on the road.
Rule of thumb = Beli ape you nampak most on the road.
Volvo = jarang dan jangan, resale value so poor.

Don't buy spec on paper. Buy something that u can drive daily and headache free.

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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:58 PM)
I see I see..nowadays second hand car also mahal giler.
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haiya, you dun be discourage lar, this is lumrah hidup, as long as purchase price + fix/repair cost is 20 = 30% cheaper, you rehda lar, last last, it is just 4 wheels and an engine. btw ar, unker got a farm to attend to, unker change from hai-lat to xc 90 coz unker sit hailat untill back pain jor LOL. If you saja-saja need suv, unker advise you dun do it, buy sedan instead, it is more comfortable and easy/safe for high speed and highway use.

Yah, when unker bring the bangla worker out to town to buy grocery, the bangla worker demm gaya 1, got driver send them with xc90 LOL
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Of the three I have only driven the XC60. It's a very nice car.
I imagine it depend on what kind of image you want to have.
Mercedes = more distunguished, classy
BMW = more sporty, cheeky
Volvo = family man
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My pren 10 years old f30 n20 engine broke down 3 weeks ago on his way to kl.
It is a brand new car from bm Malaysia .no those recon car.
Kind of lost faith to bm.
The serbis cost 6k to repair.
Another pren sold his f10 .
Both end up using Hilux now.

Heard many ppl buy conti to evade tax.

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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Apr 5 2023, 05:05 PM)
My pren 10 years old f30 n20 engine broke down 3 weeks ago on his way to kl.
It is a brand new car from bm Malaysia .no those recon car.
Kind of lost faith to bm.
The serbis cost 6k to repair.
Another pren sold his f10 .
Both end up using Hilux now.

Heard many ppl buy conti to evade tax.
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Apr 5 2023, 05:05 PM)
My pren 10 years old f30 n20 engine broke down 3 weeks ago on his way to kl.
It is a brand new car from bm Malaysia .no those recon car.
Kind of lost faith to bm.
The serbis cost 6k to repair.
Another pren sold his f10 .
Both end up using Hilux now.

Heard many ppl buy conti to evade tax.
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If brand new car not got warranty one meh?
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 5 2023, 05:11 PM)
If brand new car not got warranty one meh?
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10 years Liao..
Exceed the warranty period liao
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:21 PM)
Betul la..takkan tanya pasal Toyota, Honda and Mazda? Confirm tau it's Toyota la.

Plus /k all T20 with 20k income minimum ma..most should own conti car what..so need to tanya sikit.
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Lexus RX jer la.. Pump petrol jalan... No need susah susah
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 5 2023, 05:32 PM)
Lexus RX jer la.. Pump petrol jalan... No need susah susah
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Apr 5 2023, 05:27 PM)
10 years Liao..
Exceed the warranty period liao
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Then ok ma.. 10 years old baru 6k repair.
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QUOTE(Duckies @ Apr 5 2023, 05:37 PM)
Then ok ma.. 10 years old baru 6k repair.
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Lel..This is not the first time masok workshop after passing the 5 year warranty period .
The car slowly become problematic after the warranty period .
Everything was fine during the warranty period.
Maintaining a old conti isn't a easy task.
You better make sure u have enough emergency fund for your car service .no play play punya .
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Done 3 years and 70 k mileage with my X3. Just change rear brake pad using ori pad cost me rm600 at outside workshop.



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QUOTE(azlanys1 @ Apr 5 2023, 08:16 PM)
Done 3 years and 70 k mileage with my X3. Just change rear brake pad using ori pad cost me rm600 at outside workshop.
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2020 car? Did any repairing?
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Apr 5 2023, 05:53 PM)
Lel..This is not the first time masok workshop after passing the 5 year warranty period .
The car slowly become problematic after the warranty period .
Everything was fine during the warranty period.
Maintaining a old conti isn't a easy task.
You better make sure u have enough emergency fund for your car service .no play play punya .
Lol.
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Ya lo..I was like preparing 10-15k a year la but dont know enough to maintain or not cry.gif
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan and provided throw 100k as down payment. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

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In b4 /k always says if TS need to ask then it means TS cannot afford  tongue.gif
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Neighbour had a GLC 300, X3 lastly a RX300. His conclusion - he’ll take the Lexus anytime over the other 2.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:38 PM)
Why GLC ya bro? Can share your opinion and experience?
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I personally think the interior of the GLC especially the new one is a lot nicer compared to the rest. Drive wise it isn't the best, normally the X3 has a slightly nicer drive but then in terms of comfort, the GLC still is nicer.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 04:16 PM)
I tau. Conti reliability memang cannot fight against Asian cars geh. But then it's kinda my dream to own one la..you can say it's to show off or it's superficial  tongue.gif
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Buy the BMW first to show off 5-7 years. After you experiece conti and if you dislike them, Lexus will always be there waiting.

Im C class W205 owner. Back then also want to experience conti. But next car I want to try definitely Lexus. The thing with Lexus is, once buy it hardly breakdown like toyota. Recond Rx300 currently is 300k+. But new model launching soon.

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GLC tin kosong except for the logo... BMW is boring and too ah Beng to my liking... Volvo is loaded with many gadgets and is fun to drive.

Many says lexus... But seriously, it is more expensive than the above 3 brands. Can only get a recond unit for the same price. And lexus is very ugly la....
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Ya lo..I was like preparing 10-15k a year la but dont know enough to maintain or not cry.gif
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15-20k a year is safer, coz everytime got some issue, cheap cheap is around 2k, if medium one around 4k, big one hope don't kena la 😂

Let say one year masuk 4 times, one time around 3-4k, then around 15k to maintain per year. I am driving my 9 year old f10, so far treating me well 🙏🙏😉
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QUOTE(coolcity888 @ Apr 6 2023, 07:27 AM)
GLC tin kosong except for the logo... BMW is boring and too ah Beng to my liking... Volvo is loaded with many gadgets and is fun to drive.

Many says lexus... But seriously, it is more expensive than the above 3 brands. Can only get a recond unit for the same price. And lexus is very ugly la....
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Which lexus ugly? RX300 and NX both are nice. If sedan no comment.
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QUOTE(mois @ Apr 6 2023, 08:04 AM)
Which lexus ugly? RX300 and NX both are nice. If sedan no comment.
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The new RX is nice, but not in Malaysia yet.

My opposite house neigh changed his BMW X5 , 3rd gen to this 2019 facelift RX.
So far didn't see any tow trucks coming to his house after driving this rx. Before this....? Lol.

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QUOTE(teslaman @ Apr 5 2023, 08:21 PM)
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Why ya bro?

QUOTE(scarnut @ Apr 5 2023, 08:33 PM)
Neighbour had a GLC 300, X3 lastly a RX300. His conclusion - he’ll take the Lexus anytime over the other 2.
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Ya la, Lexus definitely tops the reliability chart...but it's a boring car..dont wan la.

QUOTE(mois @ Apr 6 2023, 06:52 AM)
Buy the BMW first to show off 5-7 years. After you experiece conti and if you dislike them, Lexus will always be there waiting.

Im C class W205 owner. Back then also want to experience conti. But next car I want to try definitely Lexus. The thing with Lexus is, once buy it hardly breakdown like toyota. Recond Rx300 currently is 300k+. But new model launching soon.
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How's ur C class? How many years have you owned the car? Any big repairs? I test drived the new NX la..feels a bit cramped but it looks very beautiful unlike the old Lexus.

QUOTE(coolcity888 @ Apr 6 2023, 07:27 AM)
GLC tin kosong except for the logo... BMW is boring and too ah Beng to my liking... Volvo is loaded with many gadgets and is fun to drive.

Many says lexus... But seriously, it is more expensive than the above 3 brands. Can only get a recond unit for the same price. And lexus is very ugly la....
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I test drived the new NX la..feels a bit cramped but it looks very beautiful unlike the old Lexus. I also prefer Volvo compared to the other 2 brands but Volvo macam banyak electronic...takut always rosak je.

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 6 2023, 08:01 AM)
15-20k a year is safer, coz everytime got some issue, cheap cheap is around 2k, if medium one around 4k, big one hope don't kena la 😂

Let say one year masuk 4 times, one time around 3-4k, then around 15k to maintain per year. I am driving my 9 year old f10, so far treating me well 🙏🙏😉
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Ya lo, that's what I can prepare yearly la..that's why asking /k here see any owner knows if 10-15k per year enough to maintain or not ma. How's ur F10? Any big repair cost?

QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Apr 6 2023, 08:17 AM)
The new RX is nice, but not in Malaysia yet.

My opposite house neigh changed his BMW X5 , 3rd gen to this 2019 facelift RX.
So far didn't see any tow trucks coming to his house after driving this rx.  Before this....?  Lol.

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New NX also nice..but a bit cramp. Maybe wait for RX but I think out of my budget adi la. New NX also like almost 400k.

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FYI, here is the current consumer reports ranking for the most reliable car manufacturers:

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The list can easily be found by googling consumer reports most reliable cars.




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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Apr 5 2023, 08:20 PM)
Also 462 PS and 709 Nm.
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Actually my main concern is the repairing cost and reliability la. Of course you will think TS sohai, if wan reliability go for Toyota or Lexus la..but like it's kinda of my dream to own a conti car. I can afford to prepare 10-15k yearly for the repairing la..but don't know enough or not. I feel banyak sien if always kena masuk kilang fix this and that.
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FYI, here is the current consumer reports ranking for the most reliable car manufacturers:

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I got read this la..but this is for US. Road, weather and our specs are CKD different la. Ask direct owner easier...

Btw, BMW ranked third? YAU MOU LAN OH?

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3years old car.... be prepare once the warranty over ur car will be in workshop more than at home. Apply to most Euro cars despite brand.
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3years old car.... be prepare once the warranty over ur car will be in workshop more than at home. Apply to most Euro cars despite brand.
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I got read this la..but this is for US. Road, weather and our specs are CKD different la. Ask direct owner easier...

Btw, BMW ranked third? YAU MOU LAN OH?
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Kek BMW 3rd. And Mercedes is bottom compared to BMW?

Since when realibility BMW > Mercedes? By huge margin some more.
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lol dafuq mercedes rank last
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3years old car.... be prepare once the warranty over ur car will be in workshop more than at home. Apply to most Euro cars despite brand.
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Do you have the experience or you hear from others?
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 6 2023, 09:11 AM)
Ya lo, that's what I can prepare yearly la..that's why asking /k here see any owner knows if 10-15k per year enough to maintain or not ma. How's ur F10? Any big repair cost?
So far don't have, only thing is every few months must masuk workshop change something due to wear and tear la.
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 6 2023, 10:06 AM)
So far don't have, only thing is every few months must masuk workshop change something due to wear and tear la.
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Wear and tear I okay la. BMW punya gearbox and engine also quite reliable. Only electronics stuff I takut takut..plastic melt la..pipe melt la..
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Wear and tear I okay la. BMW punya gearbox and engine also quite reliable. Only electronics stuff I takut takut..plastic melt la..pipe melt la..
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If mentally and financially prepare, should be ok la biggrin.gif

What's important is to join a support chat group where many experienced sifus are there. If got any car problem, can ask question inside. Also can get some recommended workshop to maintain your car so that you won't kena ketuk hard hard by some greedy workshop.
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 6 2023, 10:17 AM)
If mentally and financially prepare, should be ok la biggrin.gif

What's important is to join a support chat group where many experienced sifus are there. If got any car problem, can ask question inside. Also can get some recommended workshop to maintain your car so that you won't kena ketuk hard hard by some greedy workshop.
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Ya la but if 1 year masuk kilang 3-5 times then very sien lo
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 5 2023, 02:49 PM)
BMW, Mercedes or Volvo? Pick which one la? Which one less maintenance and repair cost? All cost about 250k ish for 3 years old car which is about 2-2.5k monthly for 7 years loan and provided throw 100k as down payment. Prepare 10-15k yearly enough for repair ah?

BMW X3 xDrive30i
Mercedes GLC200, GLC250, GLC300
Volvo XC60

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bmw free service 5 years
merc none. give u voucher.. 🤣
volvo has the worst resale value and priced the same
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 6 2023, 10:57 AM)
bmw free service 5 years
merc none. give u voucher.. 🤣
volvo has the worst resale value and priced the same
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Don't mind the resale value. Where got free service..it's counted inside adi with the price of the car XD
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 6 2023, 10:59 AM)
Don't mind the resale value. Where got free service..it's counted inside adi with the price of the car XD
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still cheaper than merc

also u can get discount from bmw easier on certain occupation etc.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 6 2023, 11:00 AM)
still cheaper than merc

also u can get discount from bmw easier on certain occupation etc.
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I see..but among these 3 which will give me less headache for repairing and reliability?
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 6 2023, 11:01 AM)
I see..but among these 3 which will give me less headache for repairing and reliability?
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glc first batch had some suspension issue
didnt even know about it until sold it .. 2nd car dealer was checking and told me about it. lucky not effected

bmw., wait for the new long screen .. facelift update. afaik they updating the line. also theres a new X1 u11 coming. alot of new engines like a 1.5turbo + hybrid =300hp etc.
every year they been increasing x1 wheelbase so got to see.

i would wait.

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glc first batch had some suspension issue
didnt even know about it until sold it .. 2nd car dealer was checking and told me about it. lucky not effected

bmw., wait for the new long screen .. facelift update. afaik they updating the line. also theres a new X1 coming. alot of new engines like a 1.5turbo + hybrid =300hp etc.
every year they been increasing x1 wheelbase so got to see.

i would wait.
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To be honest I prefer 2022 version..still have knobs and buttons. X1 too small x ngam la.
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 6 2023, 11:09 AM)
To be honest I prefer 2022 version..still have knobs and buttons. X1 too small x ngam la.
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wait n see dude. cause if the X1 u11 has better feature and size comparable . risky buy the current x3.

just my 2cents. also theres many new engine options
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also lol. mazda cx60 suppose to come this year. got to see da price
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yes, super demm right, once you put it as a company car, you can include, depreciation and cost of maintanance to lower the tax commitment
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also depends on what kind of company you are. lhdn will query for "mismatch" vehicle. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 6 2023, 11:10 AM)
wait n see dude. cause if the X1 u11 has better feature and size comparable .  risky buy the current x3.

just my 2cents. also theres many new engine options
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 6 2023, 11:14 AM)
also lol. mazda cx60 suppose to come this year. got to see da price
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X1 x ngam la..TS fat ass need bigger size...X1 too small IMO.

I am already driving Mazda...don't wan another Mazda lol
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also lol. mazda cx60 suppose to come this year. got to see da price
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I'm waiting too, supposed to be direct competitor to X3 at Jap price. Let's see...

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I'm waiting too, supposed to be direct competitor to X3 at Jap price. Let's see...
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Mazda mana boleh compete at X3. If same price confirm go X3 laaa
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also depends on what kind of company you are. lhdn will query for "mismatch" vehicle.  whistling.gif
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ok lar, unker is director oso, unker got farm, that is managed by unker company, so unker can lepas. But hor unker got friend kena the road tax pakai labuan one, coz he SKL go buy some 4.0 masili
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Ya lo, that's what I can prepare yearly la..that's why asking /k here see any owner knows if 10-15k per year enough to maintain or not ma. How's ur F10? Any big repair cost?
New NX also nice..but a bit cramp. Maybe wait for RX but I think out of my budget adi la. New NX also like almost 400k.
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yah unker got fren drive this NX, sempit sial, summore unker fat ass, the car can only carry 4 fat ass unkers
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QUOTE(NothinUnusual @ Apr 6 2023, 11:43 AM)
Mazda mana boleh compete at X3. If same price confirm go X3 laaa
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Obviously not same price. Cheaper but as good as X3 wo. Rear wheel drive somemore. That's the claim la.

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yah unker got fren drive this NX, sempit sial, summore unker fat ass, the car can only carry 4 fat ass unkers
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RX is the best..but way overbudget la

QUOTE(ameliorate @ Apr 6 2023, 01:53 PM)
Obviously not same price. Cheaper but as good as X3 wo. Rear wheel drive somemore. That's the claim la.
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Impossible la. Mazda still Mazda.
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QUOTE(mois @ Apr 6 2023, 09:28 AM)
Kek BMW 3rd. And Mercedes is bottom compared to BMW?

Since when realibility BMW > Mercedes? By huge margin some more.
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QUOTE(supsupsui @ Apr 6 2023, 09:30 AM)
lol dafuq mercedes rank last
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Take a look at latest c class w206 malaysia group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/29080859909...mibextid=NSMWBT


So many problems. Phantom braking by ADAS system, central touchscreen went berserk, cannot engage gear, etc etc

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 6 2023, 02:08 PM)
Take a look at latest c class w206 malaysia group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/29080859909...mibextid=NSMWBT
So many problems. Phantom braking by ADAS system, central touchscreen went berserk, cannot engage gear, etc etc
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W205 is the best C class. W206 already entering cut cost mercedes.
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Take a look at latest c class w206 malaysia group

https://www.facebook.com/groups/29080859909...mibextid=NSMWBT
So many problems. Phantom braking by ADAS system, central touchscreen went berserk, cannot engage gear, etc etc
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QUOTE(mois @ Apr 6 2023, 02:13 PM)
W205 is the best C class. W206 already entering cut cost mercedes.
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So betul ka BMW more reliable now? Rank third weh
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So betul ka BMW more reliable now? Rank third weh
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BMW give free 5 years warranty. First 5 years whack kao2 lo. drool.gif
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BMW give free 5 years warranty. First 5 years whack kao2 lo.  drool.gif
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After that sell ke? I want sit 10 years weh
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After that sell ke? I want sit 10 years weh
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10 years tak boleh wei unless japanese.

older bmw/merc na engine maybe, but all the current ones. hmm

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Oh if sekenhen get bmw, the b48 engine very strong not much issue. Already proven since 2015
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Just take extra care on coolant related components for the engine, serious one (but rare) could force you to fork out upto RM15k to repair inclusive engine parts due to failed cooling functions for the engine

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10 years tak boleh wei unless japanese.

older bmw/merc na engine maybe, but all the current ones. hmm
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Aiya...like that susah. Buy liao sit 10 years then kena change car again XD
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Aiya...like that susah. Buy liao sit 10 years then kena change car again XD
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new glc 300. 430.k.. cbu i think they drinking whatever stuff jibby drinking everyday

before u say cbu..

glc 250 cbu wheb launch was arnd 300k
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I think in terms of power spec, Volvo XC60 definitely beat GLC and X3. But is a very old design and the infotainment still 9 inch size... in 2025. Tested XC60 yesterday, the power is really good. Haven't test drive X3 because most BMW is clearing stock for new G45 BMW X3 2025. Any sifu to share on their experience?

 

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