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post Dec 1 2023, 11:56 AM

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i was wondering,
for all our $$ records.
did they keep a backup record copy in the backend in case anything happen?

let's say the whole app kaput, at least there is something to refer to.

else it will b very ugly, looking at the apps stability prob
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post Dec 4 2023, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Dec 4 2023, 03:49 PM)
Many days ago when people flush in with money because of the interest rate and PIDM, suddenly due to this issue everyone saying is rubbish bank.

Why this can’t be a joke? PIDM suddenly become irrelevant? I have money stuck too. But I choose to deal with it in humour. Nothing to worry about at all for me.

I’m not trying to tell anyone what to do. But worry and frequent posting in forum won’t help anyone situation.
Suddenly you feel confident again once get back the money.
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of course everyone knew with Al-Rajhi backing, it won't fail, so PIDM or not is totally out of the question.

the major issue here is that TOTALLY ABSURD for a bank to have this kind of failure.
all bank should hav their contingency plan to prevent this kind of problem.
it is not acceptable for them to let customer $ stuck or missing somewhere around Duitnow routing and not being refunded.

not everyone is rich as you having spare funds to park here, of course you can say you worry nothing.

lots of ppl put their money in Rize hoping to get some higher interest but they have cc bills / mortgages /loan etc to pay too which hav a due date.

what if the fund is only available after due date? is Rize going to pay for the late payment charges and interest incurred?


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post Dec 4 2023, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Dec 4 2023, 05:08 PM)
so what you are trying to say? keep posting here can get the bank to be less absurd and solve the issue immediately?

don't judge me as rich so no worries. I have no bills to pay also? No matter I have 10 billions or RM1, if I put all into one basket and things f''k up, how am I going to pay the bill?

This is the very ignorant ways of thinking : "ohhhh, the rich won't get affected." instead of reflecting ownself and revisit the homework that one has done before putting in the money into Rize.
ya. Most will be like that.
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its a free world with free speech.

you think you hav any rights to stop ppl from commenting whatever they like over here??? doh.gif doh.gif

go to dictator country if you r thinking this way man!!

why don't you ask why so many ppl commenting cursing them over at their fb page comment?

i suggest you go b a hero there and tell everyone there, comment there telling all angry custs to stop cursing Rize, you guys should not put all into one basket and things f''k up, so you all keep quiet and bear the fruit.

as if nothing wrong by Rize at all doh.gif doh.gif



everyone commenting there or over here or other places have the sole aim, yes, to let the bank feel the pressure and solve the issue immediately

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post Dec 5 2023, 09:12 AM

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for interest rate promo Jan 24 onwards,
i hav a feeling even if they didn't offer 5% p.a.
the new deal will definitely more than 3% p.a.

else their entire apps is as good as done.

everyone will migrate to GXBank.

as everyone had witness how 'good' this Rize apps is from the 1 Dec episode.

and the most crazy part is they don't bother to improve it at all and sit on the tiny tiny problems affecting limited numbers of users that happened all these while till it erupted into the big disaster 1 Dec.

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post Dec 5 2023, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 5 2023, 09:16 AM)
yup, definitely. as some1 said, savvy customers will flock to the one that gives the most benefit.
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yes.
after all, its all about risk vs benefit.

for 4% p.a. interest,
other alternative like KDI Versa etc is relatively stable, but no PIDM.

this is crazy apps, but with PIDM. whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Dec 5 2023, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Dec 5 2023, 10:57 AM)
I think it is not they don't bother. IMO they are incompetent as developer. Probably noobies and not from fintech industry. The bank should get good experience people on board and clean up the mess.

A simple registration failure error message or notification also can miss out, it is very lousy
. Lucky I don't bother to further register and now enjoying popcorn.
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Yup. this is hilarious.
if your IC is not clear, they will show your application under processing for weeks or even months tongue.gif tongue.gif

until you call their CS, and they will tell you to register another new account and abandon this old account.

seem like they don't have any way to salvage this failed or pending application.

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post Dec 5 2023, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 5 2023, 11:42 AM)
no la more like the application straight up just didnt go through..
that's why can use the same details again when you re-register rize.

anyway, that problem not exclusive to Rize. Even GX Bank recently i also kena same thing for 1 of the account i applied.
Keep telling me got something wrong and cannot proceed. but doesnt tell me what is the problem, had to figure it out myself that it is blurry IC picture  doh.gif

Although not as bad as Rize. Cause Rize just doesnt tell you anything at all.
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yes. i think so.
else same IC don't think they allow register twice.

but the prob is the message they show cust when log in to the apps using the account is that is it under processing, please wait doh.gif

supposedly if failed, they should show message, application failed, please re-apply.
they can't even do this simple thing.

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post Dec 6 2023, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Dec 6 2023, 09:51 AM)
good to know early, we can plan the exit biggrin.gif

old base rate as below:

TierProfit Rate (p.a.%)
RM 0 – 10,0000.75%
RM 10,000 – 25,0001.00%
> RM 25,0001.10%
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if this is true.
we can anticipate the problems that will arose on 1 Jan already tongue.gif
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post Dec 6 2023, 11:45 AM

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but still,
quite likely they will continue some sort of promo rate with >3% p.a.

unless they want to let this apps to become a thing of the past.

at 0.75% p.a rate, only person that out of his mind will stay here.

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post Dec 8 2023, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 8 2023, 04:55 AM)
better spend the money to develop their app
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Couldn't agree more.

cash burn giving fd rate 4-5% p.a. interest for a normal savings acc, targeting to build some cust base,
when cust lure in by the high interest,
all kinds of apps persistent problems kicks in make cust lose faith ranting.gif ranting.gif and eventually left.

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post Dec 12 2023, 03:20 PM

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lots of people discussing OPR and keep on telling
increase OPR will definitely strengthen the value of currency.

there r examples out there, look at Argentina or Turkey, how many % is their OPR and how their currency behave.

my view is that, currency in circulation plays a bigger role.
simple logics, you keep printing paper $$, your $$ value will drop.

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post Dec 12 2023, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 12 2023, 04:44 PM)
Remember when Malaysia starting opening up late 2021 that’s where negative real rates started when inflation rate is higher than interest rate

Currently it is still negative real rates when comparing with inflation and food inflation rate hence why OPR is on the back foot for so long 🤦‍♀️
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OPR is not everything.
look at how HK manage it vs USD.
although they face an uphill battle defending the peg, but as of now its still workable.
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post Dec 14 2023, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 14 2023, 09:05 AM)
still got ppl trust one. as long as got profit they will salivate. and besides, after their issue blown up, i suppose action would have been taken seriously to improve.
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i doubt they will take any action. whistling.gif whistling.gif

more likely they will sit on the problem and on fire fighting mode again when sh*ts happen
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post Dec 14 2023, 03:02 PM

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although i am very upset on their tidak apa attitude when handle this apps issues all these while.

but it's not true at all to say risk of losing 250k.

as a matter of fact, yes money might stuck during transfer if you are unlucky.
but eventually, they will need to refund us that $$
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post Dec 17 2023, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(whycanot323 @ Dec 15 2023, 01:50 PM)
any experience to share or how the procedures for reporting to bnm ?
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first report to bank cust resolution team.
wait 14 days.
final few days, shoot them another email stating give them how many days notice to reply or resolve, else we will escalate to BNM,

if they still unable/unwilling to resolve, email to BNM.

stating proof that already report to bank cust resolution team from whcih date etc etc.
and they are unable or unwilling to resolve after 14 days.


BNM will only take the case after we report to individual bank cust resolution team and they unable to resolvw after 14 days


Complaints Unit
Department Name: Customer Resolution
Contact:
Address: Level 17 Menara Chan, 138 Jalan Ampang, 50450 Kuala Lumpur
Telephone: Al Rajhi Bank : +603 2332 6000
Rize: 1800 81 9149 (local toll-free) or +6016 299 6610 (local & overseas)
Facsimile:
Email: Al Rajhi Bank: customer.resolution@alrajhibank.com.my
Rize: rize-cs@alrajhibank.com.my


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post Jan 1 2024, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 1 2024, 01:49 PM)
actually is typical tidak apa attitude. they just ignore when it happened in november. then big problem in december, after countless complains on socmed and bnm only took definitive action. even forced to make proper statement a few weeks after the hoo-haa.

but at the end of the day, objective achieved. they learnt some lesson nonetheless. keep up the good work. wherever there is sugar, there will be ants eventually.
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yes.
after all, what the cust want is not rocket science.

just make sure the apps is stable and $$ won't go missing somewhere over the rainbow and this will satisfy >99% of cust

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post Feb 1 2024, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(leanman @ Feb 1 2024, 09:09 AM)
Just be a little open minded, not that they are not paying you, everyone make mistake. By a few moving tenth of thousands out, it won’t have any impact on them. Just be positive
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yes.
everyone make mistake.
but not the SAME mistake over and over and over again doh.gif doh.gif

most learn from the mistake and takes step to prevent it from happening again.

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post Feb 1 2024, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 1 2024, 02:07 PM)
Seriously don't know what's they up to...

System always problem when "peak" time...

Cheapo backend system in placed? Capacity at minimal level only....
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actually they want to use cheapo backend system, nobody will whack them.

but as they knew the backend system is sXXt, they should limit the max traffic to their server limit to avoid crashing it.
rest of the traffic, send to waiting room queue (for eg. when you go to some busy website waiting queue page) when the traffic is high.
from waiting room queue, batch by batch releasing it to server to process

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post Mar 1 2024, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(leanman @ Mar 1 2024, 10:19 AM)
This page very quiet today  tongue.gif
Seems like interest paid with no problem, mine like out by 0.20 sen, could be rounding difference.
All ends well, one more month to go, lets see what's next!
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my 2 cents, the campaign quite likely to be extended beyond March.

else is gg for Rize console.gif console.gif

as many stay with them due to the interest 4% p.a. .

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post Mar 1 2024, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 1 2024, 06:04 PM)
i used 366 for calculation,
alot of ins and outs, still  not bad..
2 short 32 sen, 98 sen
2 accounts extra RM10.93, RM6.97
grin.gifgrin.gif

trouble makers ? they are the saviours they said.
FD 4.15% also i still  use Rize 4%
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yup.
imagine if become 1.x% board rate without promo.
don't think u will stay with Rize tongue.gif

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