After all good phones must be unlocked not locked to one unit.... and we are giving our buckes away to Steve Jobs ... also helping the America's economy...

If you think about the economics of it, you will see why Apple/AT&T are pursuing legal action.

You are buying a subsidized (read:discounted) phone.....a phone that is discounted, so that you will subscribe to a voice/data plan arranged by Apple and AT&T. This voice/data plan is where AT&T and Apple made their money back, and all of us who hacks and cracked and unlocked our iPhones are not contributing towards that. Therefore Apple is selling iPhones to us now at a loss , although how much loss that is , remain to be seen, and they are hoping to recover that loss from the percentage cut they receive from every iPhone user that has subscribed to AT&T (AT &T pays them a certain percentage from the voice/data plan payment each new iPhone user does when subscribing to AT&T).

So, when you sell something at a loss, and then hoping to recover from subscription, but people dont subscribe to that subscription, your business ends up in a loss, wouldnt it? Wouldnt you pursue legal action if someone do this to you?

It's a flawed business model. If your profits depend on behaviour of strangers whom you cannot control, and who have an economic interest to work against you, then you shouldn't expect to earn those profits.

I don't think Apple is selling the phone at a loss, though. The AT&T kickback is just gravy. Gravy that makes me kick myself for not buying big into Apple when it was $17 a share.

They were controlling it, albeit in forced manner, by inadvertantly forcin new users to jump ship from their current carrier to AT&T. That was the plan, and it was workin fine until the unlockers came. Apple may have not missed their cut from AT&T that much, but money earned is still money lost this way.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Oct 23 2007, 03:39 PM

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it's illegal to have iphone other that US now

so, u wont have any product warrently from apple as the machine is the only apple product without international warrenty

find back who sell u the machine for RMA