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nikyas
post Oct 17 2007, 11:41 AM

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unlocking a phone is not illegal.

it is YOUR phone! you can do whatever you please with it



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post Oct 17 2007, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(|Keantan| @ Oct 15 2007, 02:28 PM)
Just to clarify (these things I know for certain pretty much);

1) Unlocking an iPhone is seen as a breach of the terms and conditions between AT&T, Apple and the consumer i.e. you. This is seen as illegal, as long as you use the phone it is seen that you have agreed to the terms and conditions.


Breach of contract is not a crime. It is a civil matter. Apple cannot make laws.
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post Oct 17 2007, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(civic98 @ Oct 17 2007, 08:30 AM)
i wonder if that law can be applied here, in malaysia. btw, i don't see any locked phone by any local telco, so i don't think there's any law on that.
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post Oct 17 2007, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Oct 17 2007, 02:19 PM)
Breach of contract is not a crime. It is a civil matter. Apple cannot make laws.
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It is true that apple cannot make laws. My explanation was rather a simplified version. I have considered getting an iPhone for myself as well, laws differ from country to country anyways, what may not be a crime here may be a crime in US.. *I haven't actually READ the terms and conditions set out by Apple for iPhone usage, this is based on general experience with other Apple products (as well as microsoft products), also how is it the case that I heard a Malaysian dude in Penang got a cease and desist call from AT&T (or Apple I'm not sure), when he unlocked his iPhone?

I know for sure that once an iPhone has been tampered with, it is unelligible for warantee, unless the original state of the phone has been restored. That's what happened when I hacked my iPod. whistling.gif
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post Oct 18 2007, 12:09 AM

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heheh..

u tink lets say dey find out v unlock/ hack or sumting here in M'sia..
dey will send da feds n cum find us??....

i tink despite being illegal..no worries la..mebbe except for warranty and electrical approval frm M'sia lor..

but den la...safety comes first for me la..i prefer buy ori frm Apple lor..

hmm..i hv yet to see ppl on da street messing v dis phone yet though
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QUOTE(xordMeztGeR @ Oct 17 2007, 08:24 PM)
i wonder if that law can be applied here, in malaysia. btw, i don't see any locked phone by any local telco, so i don't think there's any law on that.
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Which is the reason why local launch is doubtful. Sure, you can come back to me and say the French gets their iPhones unlocked, but fully unlocked (meaning even non-French telco sim cards works) or "unlocked to French telcos only"? And point #2, Apple can cater to the French market this way, since subscriber figures are significant, compared to Malaysian numbers.


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post Oct 18 2007, 03:56 PM

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It's illegal when you steal somebody's iphone or hack into their SMS inbox & galleries if you get what i mean smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2007, 04:03 PM

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laws are meant to be broken biggrin.gif
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post Oct 18 2007, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(ozgamerz @ Oct 18 2007, 04:03 PM)
laws are meant to be broken biggrin.gif
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That's because law also set up by human being smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2007, 08:41 PM

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keke...

no wonder so many 'hacked' iphones up for sale..
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post Oct 18 2007, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Oct 18 2007, 08:41 PM)
keke...

no wonder so many 'hacked' iphones up for sale..
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That's so called unlocked, whatever it is, warranty void still smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2007, 10:45 PM

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Tsk Tsk Tsk..

From cars to phone to iPhone...
everything sure gets 'a mod'

Its a pity.
Let's not make the iPhone look like China made.
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post Oct 18 2007, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Games For Windows @ Oct 18 2007, 10:45 PM)
Tsk Tsk Tsk..

From cars to phone to iPhone...
everything sure gets 'a mod'

Its a pity.
Let's not make the iPhone look like China made.
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No choice everyone just has the urge to "POP ON" the iphone's multi-touch technology smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2007, 11:00 PM

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Warranty void one you take it out of the country it was intended to be used, unless the unit has international warranty coverage.

Contrary to popular beliefs here, once you "virginise" your iPhone back to its locked state, Apple will honor warranty, provided you return it to the country it was purchased from. It is because the lot here knows little about virginising, or conclude that it's too difficult for them to do, that makes them assume to themselves that "warranty void still".


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post Oct 19 2007, 07:38 PM

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Do we need to pay if want to unlock/upgrade iphone? for example: Upgrade 1.0.2 to 1.1.1 ???
i think u know wat software/website i refer to tongue.gif
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post Oct 20 2007, 10:35 PM

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Well upgrading is free cos it is managed by iTunes..... but all iPhone user in Malaysia or other than US or soon UK will only have ONE year warranty for hardware if you are an active user of AT&T or O2...

So to sum it... whether you unlock, hack, mod or what so ever... you use in Malaysia at your own risk... No Warranty from Apple... smile.gif
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post Oct 21 2007, 08:50 AM

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saw iphone selling already in digital mall 8gb, 4gb is discontinued the shopkeeper says, looking fine really that phone.. 3.3k for the new 8gb iphone.. warranty: send it back to the shop and risk losing your whole 3.3k if faulty mistakes are done and cannot be replaced.. OR.. send it back through shipment to the States.. 1 month lar..

one word.. gg.com
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post Oct 22 2007, 12:19 AM

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I don't think the shops are aware that Apple has changed their policy on iPhone... Warranty only on active AT&T account...
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post Oct 22 2007, 09:09 AM

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it's not a crime to do whatever you want to do with stuff that you bought. the only thing that's illegal is to publish the way to hack it. but, in some country, even that is not illegal.
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post Oct 22 2007, 11:20 AM

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As a result, theres none of the crime nor illegal for an unlocked iphone smile.gif

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