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TS@lice~~
post Mar 21 2023, 11:44 AM, updated 3y ago

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Lady, mind share what you will do when encounter a narcissistic MIL? Ignore her or confront her?

Worst case, she caused a lot of argument between you and your husband. Yet, your husband seems to always sided her and put all the blames on you. His logic is she is old and hardly can change so just endure it.


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post Apr 7 2023, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Apr 6 2023, 05:32 PM)
lai lai share more specific story, then only can advise
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1. She think she always right. Even there is evidence to show it's her fault yet she push it to other people or said "I don't remember/forgot already"
2. Always cause disharmony between sibling and their spouse
3. She think she is the most important person in the family, need everyone attention and care.
4. Selfish
5. Lazy
6. Like gossip and "kepoh"- always monitor what we are doing
7. No common sense
8. She think her children are the best and others all useless
9. Hypocritical

Too many to write.. One word toxic person


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post Apr 7 2023, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Apr 7 2023, 03:44 PM)
best is don't stay together in the same house
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post Apr 26 2023, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Apr 26 2023, 10:24 AM)
Don't stay at the same house.
Ask your hubby to get a house. few block away.
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No use. My husband always said he prioritize me over others, but when thing happens he always side his mother. Talk only, no action.

I am getting tired of this family


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post Apr 26 2023, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(iammasivers @ Apr 26 2023, 03:06 PM)
from your husband perspective though, you have to understand that his mom is the one that has been there and caring for him since he's small.. so need to be patient and compromise a bit.. there's this saying, you don't only marry your partner, you marry the whole family.. but at the same time your husband must also defend you because you're his partner.. just that he needs to be a bit tactful.. like my mom and fiance also dont really get along well, but i told my fiance, understand my mom can be a bit annoying, just be patient and compromise for a while only while meeting her.. because in the end, we don't always gonna meet her since i already bought house far away from my parents
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Don't say that too early, *touchwood* if one of the parent passed away first, you can't leave another one alone at that home or worst case no other sibling willing to stay with the father/mother, so you have to take him/her in

I totally understand the "husband perspective" but him just being unfair. He totally understand/know his mother's characters and behaviors, to the point he can't tahan the mother too but yet want me to compromise and patient


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post Apr 26 2023, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Apr 26 2023, 04:11 PM)
Conflict with in-laws quite a common topic.

There is another option. Why not you try to "bribe" your MIL out of this. "Bribe" can be by giving some benefits to achieve mutual win-win scenario. If you know she like something, try to "bribe" her heart.

Life is short, don't go against each other, if she willing to cooperate, both you & her can have better days.  She "make" her day, you "make" your day, there is no need to go against each another.
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No, this is not the common one but a narcissistic person. In her world, only herself. You can't "bribe" or satisfy her, she will never satisfied. She think she is the queen everyone must serve her.

Before married, I used to stay at her house for few months with rental paying and helping around the household chores yet she complaint I not giving enough


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post Apr 26 2023, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 26 2023, 04:33 PM)
As one of the forummer said.

Move out.

I did. So much better. In my case is my mum. Everything is others fault and not hers.

Now she is almost begging me to move back in which I refused.

Good ruck to her
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If only my husband willing to do so. According to my husband, have been talking/advise her multiple times but no cure.

The current house is my house not her, so it's her to move out and she have no where to go. And my husband sympathy her and not dare to ask her out worry being unfilial son.

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post Apr 26 2023, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 26 2023, 04:45 PM)
The one way is for me to shut myself mentally when around her when living together.

It does make the message go across. Only talk when the matter is important.
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Like 2 stranger living in the same house? Ya, I am in this phase too, stop talking or listening to her. Keep it short and clear.


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post Apr 26 2023, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(ungka @ Apr 26 2023, 04:51 PM)
not trolling but i would be thinking to get diff husband.
u see life is short. 10 years will go unnoticed. and if by then only want to open new book/chapter, 10 years of life wasted already.
and only another 10 years remaining ( im talking about youthfull life) of course one might live until 70 but i personally think 55-70 not prime anymore.

should really embrace the life of 30-50

done tokok
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This does come to mind before, let's say MIL still have another 5 years to go means I need to suffer for the 5 years. I can't make up my mind yet.


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post Apr 26 2023, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 26 2023, 04:52 PM)
Yep.

Since its your house. You have a say in house matters. Don't ask her for opinions. Your house your rules.

Done.
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She treat it as her son's house even she well known who pay the most bills or maybe she just don't care at all. My house like a hotel to her, come and go as her wish. And me become like the tenant already.

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post Apr 27 2023, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Apr 26 2023, 05:04 PM)
You got kids already?
You will need her help with kids.
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Yes, 2 kids. No she seldom help take care my kids.
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post Apr 27 2023, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Apr 26 2023, 05:26 PM)
Liek I said.

There are times you will need to put your foot down.

And again all the best to you.

No easy dealing with all these people.
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Thanks


QUOTE(ungka @ Apr 26 2023, 06:22 PM)
hopefully 5 years or shorter. sometimes this type of people hard to go one. plot twist we go first before them  sweat.gif
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sweat.gif if that really happen I think she is the most happy person..

and because of her, my husband and I argue again yesterday ranting.gif


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post Apr 28 2023, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Apr 27 2023, 05:28 PM)
She can't. Technically the husband & wife already moved out & staying at their own house. The MIL now come to stay with them because the FIL already passed away.

If the old people really talk don't want to listen, be friend with them they don't appreciate & kwailan abit some more, they will find soon themselves the path to old folk home, that will be the usual stories public get to hear. Then what comes next will be the story about the char siew children alleged for mistreating their parent for sending them to old folk home.

The ending need not have to be such sad, go negotiate the better ending with the MIL. Not worth for such ending.

The best fate arrangement you could wish now - some neighbors / relative son send their parent to old folks home because the old ppl too kwailan. That incident will become a lesson for your MIL to tune down.
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No use because she was actually moved out from the elder son's house and to my house due to kwailan with them too. Yet she never admit she was wrong and claim that the elder son is useless didn't defend her and the DIL is bad. Like I mentioned before, she always right, she will give you tons of excuses to cover herself and blame to others. She can even tell lie direct in front of the person and make herself become the victim or act innocent.
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post Apr 28 2023, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Apr 27 2023, 05:54 PM)
The son have to stand up  PERIOD
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QUOTE(ungka @ Apr 28 2023, 04:47 AM)
well
hope there's equivalent phrase 'dont stick your dick in crazy' for you case
i stand by living meaningful life.
of course theres ups and downs in life bla bla bla.
but it's important for each person to evaluate which ones they are willing to confront
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Too bad then my husband only doing the talk and no other actions. He do say that he always scold/educate his mother in private and when the timing is right but still no use. Same thing goes to me too, he always said "I told you don't say so much, just ignore her","pretend didn't see, didn't hear", "just walk away from her, don't confront" and etc. To a point he scolded me before being childish, immature, talk too much, not listen to him and no respect other mega_shok.gif
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post Apr 28 2023, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Apr 28 2023, 03:08 PM)
If I were in your place, if it were to happen to me. These should be the sequence of options:-

1 )Try to befriend the in laws. She goods, I'm good, everyone happy. If bribing her can do the jobs, I won't mind spending the cost.

2) If option 1 don't work, second worse scenario. The in-laws do her stuff, don't encroach the boundary. As long as she respect that boundary, that will do.

3) If option 2 don't work, 3rd worse scenario. Vent it out. There is limit on each one can take, instead of complain direct to your husband, just get into direct fight with the in laws, if need to shout just shout. If she don't want to see this scene, ask her to better behave, if not, you just need to make sure you is the devil that she will regret to provoke. The eldest DIL is bad, send 1 signal that 2nd DIL is worse if she continue to be kwai lan.

4) Look for the old folks home, sign her up. Call the eldest son, each family to share the expenses.

This world, people fear the ruthless & bully the kind ppl.

If possible, there is no need to go till option 3) & 4). The best case scenario is 1).
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Mind to share few examples of scenario 1?


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post Apr 28 2023, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(billy08 @ Apr 28 2023, 03:50 PM)
This is actually a life circle.. we grew up.. we go to school .. we found a partner .. we start a family ..
yes normally the ladies will complain more than the guys because normally the wives follows the husbands. being a husband also isnt that easy because if the MIL and wife doesnt click, he will then have to handle two women very tactfully
now.. as we grow older.. we will too have kids.. and our kids starts his or her family. same situation if you son brings home a wife that you cant click.. then the table will be turned around.
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This is not about can click or not, it's toxic person.

Anyway, if one day I can't click with my DIL I will move out or they move out and never stay together. Actually out there a lot of this kind of cases and the end both sides never stay together but my MIL can't. She is very dependent person and never can stay alone (scare this scare that) yet she like to become the trouble maker to each and every family she go shakehead.gif


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post May 3 2023, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(billy08 @ Apr 28 2023, 05:44 PM)
yes. i have encountered this with my grandmother. she too was very toxic until the extend with a temper. so my dad and his siblings decided on moving her around families. that was how extensive the problem was and i remember the siblings having regular meeting to discuss before finalizing the plan to move my grandmother between houses. i cant remember how many month or months with each house. maybe this can be an option for you to try discuss .. but if the house belongs the your MIL.. then I think my option is not viable.
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QUOTE(corad @ May 2 2023, 08:55 PM)
So it's just 2 sons or she has more kids ?

if it's your house, why not ask your parents to stay for a few weeks to "help with the grandkids" ? then your MIL can go back to her elder son.

obviously plan ahead so the situation is not heated, maybe just awkward so when MIL feels out of place she can find friends/her own siblings.
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Can't work also because she already moved out from the elder son due to conflict and high chance she will not move back again due to "face" and dignity. Her elder daughter's house got "ghost" so she not dare to sleep alone. Younger daughter just recently move to Singapore. So nowhere she can go now.


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post May 8 2023, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(corad @ May 4 2023, 07:48 PM)
but she has her own place to stay ? if yes, persuade her to move back and arrange MIL own sibling / children to visit on a schedule ie Monday Eldest son , Tuesday 2nd Child etc

may need to get part time help / maid for her and everyone chip in for the cost or tapau food when visiting so not a burden to host so many "visitors"
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No also and she not dare to stay/sleep alone. All the children have their own family too to take care of.

As for maid/helper can't work also as her children can't afford it. Both her sons' wife is the breadwinner.

I really really hope that she move back to her elder son's house since her favorite child always be him and let me have my peace back icon_question.gif


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post Aug 22 2023, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Aug 22 2023, 03:27 PM)
Your then future mother in law potential behaviors' (now legally mother in law) was made known to you 15 years ago. 15 years ago & you decided to proceed to get married ~ you decided to accept the flaws. After you accepted the flaws, now you suddenly you cannot accept it, 15 years time not sufficient to prepare for today?
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A good one rclxms.gif

Well, not suddenly cannot accept the flaws. Back in that year, I stayed at their house (his parent's house) and now she stay at my house. When it's your own house for sure you have higher expectation on cleanness, tidyness and hygiene compare to other people's house and condition/situation have different already as I have children now and she might cause the bad influence on my kids.

Over the 15 years she become worst or should I say I have not know the "real" her until she moved in my house and all the patterns show up. Even I did heard a lot of complaints from her own daughters and son-in-law before but when yourself facing its you still get the shock. Even her own son cannot tahan her and choose to go cafe to work rather then come back home earlier.

Well, i raise the case as nothing i can do now

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