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mushigen
post Mar 13 2023, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 13 2023, 03:28 PM)
As ts is unlikely to sell the poorperly at or about the market price quickly; If ts is serious to dispose of the poorperly quickly and outstanding loan value is at or below market price, could consider to sell at about outstanding loan value. whatever paid to bank earlier would be losses. at least need not to pay more to the bank.
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He is already expecting to sell below his outstanding loan.
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post Mar 13 2023, 04:10 PM

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I wish to add on another point for clarification.
This is only applicable for auction situation under court order.

For own selling property below the loan outstanding amount and need to top up to clear the balance, the bank WILL NOT help any offer any repayment loan or use own reserve to offset it.

You are digging another big hole as this would affect a lot parties.
The SPA agreement with the new buyer will be call off eventually since you are not able to pay off the remaining balance.
Lawyer fees, stamp duty, time and extra unnecessary frustration to existing problem

Don't simply make decision without knowing the consequences. Innocent parties will be affected including yourself.
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post Mar 13 2023, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Mar 13 2023, 01:58 PM)
Just hope everything is fine.
Definitely will go seek AKPK.
Just don't want other family member worse case declare bankrupt or insolvency. And their entire life is ruined
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Ya, use AKPK, to buy time and space:

1. pay minimum monthly payment for the next few years,
2. wait for the property market price to come back (after2-3 years, price should goes up x%),
3. then sell it off.
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post Mar 13 2023, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Mar 13 2023, 04:13 PM)
Ya, use AKPK, to buy time and space:

1. pay minimum monthly payment for the next few years,
2. wait for the property market price to come back (after2-3 years, price should goes up x%),
3. then sell it off.
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I just hope they have the $$ to pay for the next few years or even months.

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post Mar 13 2023, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Mar 13 2023, 08:21 AM)
Hi all,

Asking for family member.
Currently they have try to ask around for buyer, no buyer interest.
There's multiple unit on bank lelong and also many units sells below market price.

This just example
The leasehold property initial price is 1 mil. Loan at 900k
Bank lelong around the area unfurnish 800k, online property price tag around 800-850k.

Urgently need to dispose this property. Due to not able to coop with it.

Few question,

1) if the property sell at loss, how does the offset amount been paid? The bank will still give another loan for that offset?
2) it's RPGT still in effect if sell at a loss?

Appreciate the answer
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QUOTE(LazyCat666 @ Mar 13 2023, 10:11 AM)
Bear in mind, seller still has to pay the agent 2-3% commission (if agent managed to find a buyer) and the lawyer fees etc. In the meantime, seller has to continue to pay the monthly house installment.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Mar 13 2023, 10:53 AM)
Ya, we know the problem...
but 1mil vs 200k and also versus bankrupt

willing to take that jump
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???? Take what jump?

QUOTE(munak991 @ Mar 13 2023, 04:28 PM)
I just hope they have the $$ to pay for the next few years or even months.
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1st, What is the outstanding balance in the house loan?

The lelong prices are just indicators on the market prices. The real market price is what you get in the actual sale.

Lelong means auction. You can also sell by means of auction if you want to sell in a hurry.

Selling at a lost... it means selling at a price lower than the purchase price. It doesn't necessarily means the selling price lower than the outstanding balance. (What's the outstanding balance?)

If really cannot coup due to different financial situation now, and must sell the house; better to do it quick rather than delaying the inevitable... as interest cost will accumulate over time.



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post Mar 13 2023, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 13 2023, 05:20 PM)
???? Take what jump?
1st, What is the outstanding balance in the house loan?

The lelong prices are just indicators on the market prices. The real market price is what you get in the actual sale.

Lelong means auction. You can also sell by means of auction if you want to sell in a hurry.

Selling at a lost... it means selling at a price lower than the purchase price. It doesn't necessarily means the selling price lower than the outstanding balance. (What's the outstanding balance?)

If really cannot coup due to different financial situation now, and must sell the house; better to do it quick rather than delaying the inevitable... as interest cost will accumulate over time.
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Yes searching for agent to sell the property
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post Mar 16 2023, 09:56 PM

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Another perspective... no big deal ..being bangrupt..
Automatic discharge from bangkruptcy aftsr 3yrs if fulfilled certain conditions..

Better conserve dwindling household cash than spend ot on lawyrr fees.. instalment ... etc..

No ill intention here... bangkrupt is not dearh sentence
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post Mar 16 2023, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(kenzotaj @ Mar 16 2023, 09:56 PM)
https://www.mdi.gov.my/index.php/home/faqs/...s%20been%20made.
Another perspective...  no big deal  ..being bangrupt..
Automatic discharge from bangkruptcy aftsr 3yrs if fulfilled certain conditions..

Better conserve dwindling household cash than spend ot on lawyrr fees.. instalment ... etc.. 

No ill intention here...  bangkrupt is not dearh sentence
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Yes, bankrupt is an option for the family.
If the loan is on individual then it's ok . One person bankrupt, rest of the family is funding the bankrupt individual.

But now imagine most memebers in the family is the loan borrower and garantor. All goes to insolvency, how they continue?

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