Hey guys,



Made a short write up about the latest CC7 here

Anyone tried out the latest CC7 yet?

kasi up

the advertisement is self contradict, showing lexus and Merz Benz using this CC7 with 215/55R17, in fact it only cover until 16".

I have no idea why they can't make it larger size than 16", i want this in my Teana L33 17" wheel.

You have a good point. It's definitely misleading.

I think no 17" is due to product segmentation from continental.

The thread looks not that convincing? Not as sophisticated like other brands? Might not perform that well?

The magic is in the details, not from the pattern look

I will do a deep dive explaining this later on in a video

Contemplating between CC7 or XM2+ or Hankook eco2
Not sure which one better

Xm2+ is the best among them with excellent wet braking and wear. What is your main requirements?

Comfort and quietness

Comfort and noise both tires are good but wet braking XM2+ is better

For mine, 185 width, xm2+ only got 2 grooves. While other brands have 3 grooves. Does it matter?

The total void volume matters the most regardless of the number of grooves.

Based on test results XM2+ is really strong in aquaplaning so it should not be an issue.

The 2 , 3 or 4 grooves is related to the scaling of the tire pattern module. Rest assured these are calculated to ensure the performance stays the same through our different tire sizes.

Based on what I've seen so far, seems like Continental doesn't do much to improve wet grip of the CC7.
All the launch articles claim "improved safety and handling", but then the rest of the article only talks about noise reduction and comfort.
The thread design still looks like it doesn't push away water when driving through a puddle.

Rather disappointing considering the CC6 was really popular (I liked it for it's quietness, and dry grip was alright) but the main complaint has always been poor wet grip.

Based on the data provided, CC7 increase 7% better in wet braking compared to CC6.

Based on my EU label table you can see CC6's wet braking label at C/D for different sizes.

Still waiting for CC7 though....

Yesterday, I switched from Bridgestone Ecopia ep150 to Continental CC7. 0923 is still new and costs MYR 185 (175/65/R14 082H). I changed all four tires. Continental is offering an MYR 50 TNG voucher if you replace four tires; if you replace two tires, you will receive an MYR 20 TNG voucher instead.



Although it has the Conti TCP app for warranty.

Yesterday, when the road was wet, I gave it a try. The brakes work effectively in rainy situations and are significantly less noisy than the EP150, at least so far. I could not test for aquaplaning in any water puddle because I've done it before while using the ep150 and going faster in drizzly circumstances.





This post has been edited by eclectice: Apr 17 2023, 08:53 AM

Looking at the thread pattern, CC7 will have better wet handling compared to its predecessor, the CC6.

Overall, it should be an overall improvement in terms of wet handling, quiet and comfort.

Remember you all, this is a comfort tyre.. not performance

Yeah, I agree. It looks like the 17" is available in Japan



https://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1478803.html

MY
 ComfortContactCC7_Factsheet.pdf ( 2.72mb ) Number of downloads: 306


JP
 CC7_FACTSHEET.pdf ( 858.22k ) Number of downloads: 211


This post has been edited by eclectice: Apr 17 2023, 09:09 AM

Interesting that this is only 13-16". That's most of the cars on the road (Myvi etc.) but too bad for C-segment and above car owners lol

Just changed from CC5 to CC7, feels the same in terms of comfort and noise. I don't drive aggressively, so can't tell the difference in handling or braking performance.

Nobody tried these in the wet yet? Any comments?

XM2+ for sure! CC series are crap!

This is just a too generic statement. I have been using CC6 then XM2+ and now CC7. No doubt the XM2+ is slightly better in wet, but I didn't face any major issue driving at >80km/h during heavy rain with CC6 or CC7. The only thing need to avoid is hard braking in wet which I don't think XM2+ can help either. The comfort and quietness are both superior on the CC7 than XM2+.

This post has been edited by Ivan_T: Jul 8 2023, 04:32 PM

Comfort and quietness are the only superior part for CC7 compared to XM2+. I wouldn't say XM2+ is only slightly better than CC6 and CC7 in the wet. Just last month I was driving my colleague's car and was cornering on the wet road at around 40-50. It was not even a very heavy rain but the road was wet without standing water. The car skidded and I nearly hit the side wall. The tyres were brand new but it felt like a very warned XM2+ in the wet.

I think you need to be more careful driving in the wet on CC7 at high speed.

This post has been edited by ru40342: Jul 8 2023, 09:20 PM

Aiya. Too late. Already went with Toyo CR1.
So far so good. Ride quality feels more superior than XM2+, CC7

Nope, CC series is well known to be crap! Just watch this comparison between cc6 vs xm2+, the difference is so big that I doubt cc7 can make up for it!

https://youtu.be/ksEsJlmIsgQ

So I stand by my comments, CC stands for Crap Continental series!

Well, you have to understand that people who commented CC5 or CC6 are crap all drive like F1 drivers on the roads. I've driven on CC5 before, no issues whatsover.

We don't drive like F1 drivers cuz we can't, we just drive with "sporty handling" in mind. lol

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jul 17 2023, 04:02 PM

Hey dude. How long u have been using ur CC7?
Does it have problem like goodyear assurance triple max 2? It is very quite initially then the noise become worst after fee years.
Btw, what is the life span and milleage CC7 can last?

I used the CC6 before and not the CC7. I tried CC7 on my friend's car but I believe they are very similar. I never tried ATM2 but all tyres will be noisy after few years, including CC6. I think after 20k it starts to get quite noisy.

CC6 treadwear is quite high relatively (i think 370 or 380 but cannot remember). I changed after 35k to 40k.

I was on CC6 for 3 years before replaced it with XM2+ and on that for 3 years++ also, my experience is CC6 still quieter after few years.
Already on the new CC7 for 3 months++ now, super happy with it and if given 2nd choice, I will take it again without hesitation.
It is superior to CC6 in my opinion, super comfortable and quiet passing through whatever rough and uneven roads, make the car feel more luxury.
Been driving at >80km/h in heavy rain, didn't face any problem so far with loss of grip. Driving at 110-120km/h on highway and the only noise is from the engine and wind, tyre noise is almost non existent.

I could not feel any difference between CC6 and CC7 coz I just tried CC7 on my colleague's car for 30 minutes. I do agree that it is very comfortable and quiet. After all, those are the specialty of this tyre.

I have a very different experience on the grip, especially wet grip. On straight road it was not too bad but cornering on a wet road at relatively medium speed (40 - 50kph) is scary in my opinion.

I am glad you like it. Everyone has their own priority so there is no best tyre, only most suitable tyre. I personally prefer XM2+ or ES32 due to superior wet and dry grips. Cheers.

This post has been edited by ru40342: Oct 4 2023, 08:02 PM

Speaking of comparing CC7 and XM2+, has anyone compared it with Pirelli P6 or P7?

I had XM2 last time but after trying Pirelli P6, i don't think i will go back to XM2. The problem now is many shops don't have Pirelli.

From your write-up.


You kidding me?

This post has been edited by MNF0: Nov 25 2023, 10:04 PM

Is it of comparable price?

Pirelli is the highest followed by XM2 and then CC7.

my personal experience with xm2 plus is the rubber really fast hardened. I still got a lot of tyre flower, but the rubber hardened already. topkek. Its different with my michelin ps4 on my other car. as the rubber is quite consistent during entire lifespan.

and cc6 rubber, not hardened until tyre bald. no point longer lifespan but easily rubber hardened. once rubber hardened, automatic u feel the tyre become crap.

and I feel like xm2 plus use different grade of rubber compare to ps4. please correct me if I wrong in this. but I feel that way.



Ya lor. until now, I see people keep speeding in rain. I really dont understand people.

Hello, are you still using the CC7? how is the experience so far after more than a year using it? How is it on aquaplaning?

Hi more2teayap,

Yup, still using the CC7 since 2023. Had to replace one with a CC7 due to a sidewall puncture while parked, but otherwise Iam quite happy with them so far. As I mentioned in my 2023 post, they're really good in corners even when wet.

Aquaplaning-wise, no major issues were encountered. But I also don't simply whack through big puddles at high speed la. Doesn't matter how good the tire is, that's just asking for trouble. Make sure your ESC and suspension are all in good condition, and hold your steering wheel properly if kena

But, I had been a daredevil driving above 120 km/h and anxiously handling this situation of "floating" above water at certain times in heavy rain--only when the road was straight as it would be easy to get out of the situation if I maintained the car in a straight line.

End of the day, your safety depends on many things - tire, car condition, and your driving style all play a part.

I checked with AI on aquaplaning, all these hold...

How to Avoid Aquaplaning:

- Reduce speed in wet conditions: This gives your tires more time to displace water.

- Maintain proper tire pressure and tread depth: Ensure your tires are in good condition.

- Avoid driving through puddles or standing water: If you can't avoid it, drive through slowly and steadily.

- Don't brake or accelerate suddenly: This can cause your tires to lose traction.

- Be aware of the road surface: Smooth surfaces are more prone to aquaplaning.

This post has been edited by eclectice: Oct 12 2024, 05:45 AM

My car still equipped with 2 pairs CC6 from 2022. the scary experience was when i was driving along Karak highway during the rain. there was a second or 2 during approching a corner, the car did not turn but going straight, i was lucky that there was no car nearby before the front tires grip again. I plan to change to CC7 soon.

Just change cc7.. bit regret.. feel j6 better..
Cc7 very soft.. cornering goyang.. if hit hole feel like rim akan bengkok...

Road noisy not much different..

I would not recommend this cc7... but mc7 highly recommend... 1 of the best for the price..

lately hardly rain.. wait till u drive on wet road

Bro, before you buy tires no do some research what model target is that? CC model all these while is for lower budget range which priorities comfort & low noise. If want comfort tires usually their sidewall is more softer. MC7 is consider UHP tires, so naturally their sidewall are stiffen up for better cornering. If want better cornering, next time ask for UHP or Max Performance tires.

I'm comparing cc7 with j6 bro.. coz last time satisfied with j5.. i tot cc7 better than j6.. but after install not much different on comfort n low noise compare my prev j5.. j5 also better on cornering n wet road... bit regret not choose j6... since dah beli cc7, layanjerlaa..

Mc7 is different story.. that is for my other car... good purchased for me..

Dunlop J series really depends, for me i trade in after 1 week on the J5 due to long skid emergency braking on my Kelisa (maybe due to harder rubber compound i skid during wet nearly accident).
I trade in with Yokohama ES32 and use 2 set with it before MCO kick in and revert to budget Toyo CR1 now. That time i purchase the J5 as the tire shop keep hard sales saying it is cheap and also R&D for Malaysia weather & road condition.

does mc7 comfort level is terrible compare to cc7?. or its feel harsh or noisy?. I really like this mc7, but due to uhp tier. scared not comfortable. now in the midst of changing tyre. ventus 4, primacy 5, mc7,eagle f1 sport, ps5, among my consideration.

If you want comfort and budget is unlimited go for Primacy 5, that is the top choice.