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 2023 CFMOTO 800NK, when kambing msia??

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post Oct 1 2023, 12:20 PM

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dare to go test?

bike not reg, so round kedai oni...


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post Oct 1 2023, 12:40 PM

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I want long test ride...
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So I went to cfmoto flagship store in setapak today and asked about 800NK availability and test ride event.
Salesman said next month after malaysia motoGP, 12th nov.

Dont even have display unit at the shop sadly.. but I guess 1 month isnt that long
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QUOTE(Patent @ Oct 31 2023, 03:40 PM)

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Went there this morning. What a joke. All the bikes not arrive yet. Wasted a morning.

Hahahaha.

Events like these supposed to build confidence in china bikes. But fuck up big time. GS cycle guys also sembang there. No people skill at all.

At least engage the potential buyer lah. Take down contact, make alternate arrangement when bike comes in. Or just talk about the bikes and attend to what questions the buyer have. Nothing. Asked when the NK800 coming in also don't know. Just sit there play phone.

I'm seriously thinking of getting the nk800...but if this is how things are run, better just get the z900.....and certainly not from GS cycle.

At least the buyer experience is better at Kawa@shah l
Alam. I just drop by, straight got SA come greet me, then ask which bikes I want to test ride. All set up ready to go.

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 1 2023, 05:42 PM)

At least the buyer experience is better at Kawa@shah l
Alam. I just drop by, straight got SA come greet me, then ask which bikes I want to test ride. All set up ready to go.
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Kawa@shah can test ride anytime? or gotta wait for them to announce test ride event. are they only a showroom or can do servicing there also after purchasing from them
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 1 2023, 05:42 PM)
Went there this morning. What a joke. All the bikes not arrive yet. Wasted a morning.

Hahahaha.

Events like these supposed to build confidence in china bikes. But fuck up big time. GS cycle guys also sembang there. No people skill at all.

At least engage the potential buyer lah. Take down contact, make alternate arrangement when bike comes in. Or just talk about the bikes and attend to what questions the buyer have. Nothing. Asked when the NK800 coming in also don't know. Just sit there play phone.

I'm seriously thinking of getting the nk800...but if this is how things are run, better just get the z900.....and certainly not from GS cycle.

At least the buyer experience is better at Kawa@shah l
Alam. I just drop by, straight got SA come greet me, then ask which bikes I want to test ride. All set up ready to go.
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oh damn.. I was planning to visit gs cycle to see the 800NK
google reviews have been saying some terrible service but since you said the same also.. I think I'll just wait another store to do it sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Voopoo @ Nov 1 2023, 05:52 PM)
Kawa@shah can test ride anytime? or gotta wait for them to announce test ride event. are they only a showroom or can do servicing there also after purchasing from them
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Yes any time if the test bikes are available. They might be sent out for events. I went there twice. Once for the z900 and once for the versys 650.

I think they will offer a test ride if the SA thinks you are serious enough and capable of handling a big bike. I didn't have to ask.

They are full service.
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QUOTE(Patent @ Nov 1 2023, 05:58 PM)
oh damn.. I was planning to visit gs cycle to see the 800NK
google reviews have been saying some terrible service but since you said the same also.. I think I'll just wait another store to do it  sweat.gif
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Seems the Setapak branch gave me better CS.

See lah, test the bike, then buy from Tenaga or Eang Chun.

But the test route is just around the shop lots. So unless you really serious to test the bike..don't waste your time.

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post Nov 3 2023, 02:12 PM

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ipoh got 800nk....

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 3 2023, 02:12 PM)
ipoh got 800nk....

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let's all ride ride TT at ipoh then test ride cfmoto biggrin.gif
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Went back to test the NK800 again. The test bike available is the basic model. We will only get the advance model here. But otherwise same bike. Test route was short, filled with speedbumps. Cant do a longer route so can't test higher speed vibration or handling. So thought on it will be limited.

Power : very very sharp punchy mid range. Tried on sport a rain mode (didnt try on street mode). In sport mode, power comes on strong from 5k up. The engine is very light and rev happy. Basically if you have ridden the duke790, it is similar. Hit 80 on a short stretch between speedbumps before realizing the meter was set to mph. To be honest, the power delivery is more than enough for street use...or outright scary in sport mode if you are not used to it. Exhaust sounds damn shiok. Good bark with pops on decel. How they got this exhaust to pass euro5 is beyond me. You won't need an aftermarket end can for this.

Seating and ergo
On paper it lists seat hight at 795mm but in reality it feels more. Possible 820mm. Riding ergos are fairly comfortable as you sit fairly upright and the rear sets are below your butt, and not in a too sporty position. Feels more spacious than the z900. The nk800s riding position is between the duke790 and the 790 adventure. Which means you can still stand up on the pegs. The seat felt a bit hard. Maybe questionable comfort if used for.long distance. Pillion seat is very very hard. The clutch is a bit heavier than expected...not sure if it has a slip and assist clutch.

Handling. Low speed is a a bit ponderous but balanced. No opportunity to test at higher speeds.

General fit and finish. The plastics felt cheap. One wing mirror is broken maybe, cant adjust it low enough, only see sky. Under seat storage is zero.

Didnt try cruise control. Didn't get up to speed.
No quick shifter installed on base model, but the shifting feel is light and positive. Able to do clutchless up down without too much issues even without the Q/S.

Brakes. Strong, but could use a bit more sharpness. Rear brakes are surprisingly good.

My main issues.
Bike does not have traction control. Especially on a throttle this sharp and power delivery this immediate. This is one bike you will probably need to use rain mode when it rains.

Bike has a high mounted exhaust. So pannier fitments will be an issue. Very limited aftermarket availability of accessories yet.

Verdict.
You won't find this power and gadgets for 39k. All accessories come standard. (Q/S, steering damper, big ipad screen with phone integration/cruise control)

Waiting for another test ride with open highways to test cruising speed vibrations before deciding...but like I said, it's either this or the z900.

In comparison, the z900 has a more linear powerband, sportier ergo. and longer legs for those that want to speed 200+ on the highways. Plus, it has all the accessories already available in the market.

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Also did a test ride on the Papio XO1. Very cute bike. I got more stares on it than I did on the nk800.

Ergos are aggressive, feels like a low handlebar cafe racer...or even a replica racer looking through the front windshield. Very nimble..maybe too much, not used to small 12" wheels. Brakes are very good. Not much can be said about the power... It's more show than go. If they put on 14" scooter wheels maybe a winner.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 3 2023, 02:12 PM)
ipoh got 800nk....

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Jom. I will be in Ipoh that weekend. Riding back 18th Saturday morning. Feel free to join. Leaving KL 6.30am. solo.

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 3 2023, 06:19 PM)
Went back to test the NK800 again. The test bike available is the basic model. We will only get the advance model here. But otherwise same bike. Test route was short, filled with speedbumps. Cant do a longer route so can't test higher speed vibration or handling. So thought on it will be limited.

Power : very very sharp punchy mid range. Tried on sport a rain mode (didnt try on street mode). In sport mode, power comes on strong from 5k up. The engine is very light and rev happy. Basically if you have ridden the duke790, it is similar. Hit 80 on a short stretch between speedbumps before realizing the meter was set to mph. To be honest, the power delivery is more than enough for street use...or outright scary in sport mode if you are not used to it. Exhaust sounds damn shiok. Good bark with pops on decel. How they got this exhaust to pass euro5 is beyond me. You won't need an aftermarket end can for this.

Seating and ergo
On paper it lists seat hight at 795mm but in reality it feels more. Possible 820mm. Riding ergos are fairly comfortable as you sit fairly upright and the rear sets are below your butt, and not in a too sporty position. Feels more spacious than the z900. The nk800s riding position is between the duke790 and the 790 adventure. Which means you can still stand up on the pegs. The seat felt a bit hard. Maybe questionable comfort if used for.long distance. Pillion seat is very very hard.  The clutch is a bit heavier than expected...not sure if it has a slip and assist clutch.

Handling. Low speed is a a bit ponderous but balanced. No opportunity to test at higher speeds.

General fit and finish. The plastics felt cheap. One wing mirror is broken maybe, cant adjust it low enough, only see sky. Under seat storage is zero.

Didnt try cruise control. Didn't get up to speed.
No quick shifter installed on base model, but the shifting feel is light and positive. Able to do clutchless up down without too much issues even without the Q/S.

Brakes. Strong, but could use a bit more sharpness. Rear brakes are surprisingly good.

My main issues.
Bike does not have traction control. Especially on a throttle this sharp and power delivery this immediate. This is one bike you will probably need to use rain mode when it rains.

Bike has a high mounted exhaust. So pannier fitments will be an issue. Very limited aftermarket availability of accessories yet.

Verdict.
You won't find this power and gadgets for 39k. All accessories come standard. (Q/S, steering damper, big ipad screen with phone integration/cruise control)

Waiting for another test ride with open highways to test cruising speed vibrations before deciding...but like I said, it's either this or the z900.

In comparison, the z900 has a more linear powerband, sportier ergo. and longer legs for those that want to speed 200+ on the highways. Plus, it has all the accessories already available in the market.

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im surprised they have basic model for the test ride considering we only get the advanced model

i have high hopes for this bike since the 800mt got a lot of praises laugh.gif
really like the aesthetics of the bike

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QUOTE(Patent @ Nov 3 2023, 07:02 PM)
im surprised they have basic model for the test ride considering we only get the advanced model

i have high hopes for this bike since the 800mt got a lot of praises  laugh.gif
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I think MForce brought both bikes for test evaluation, and then figured out a pricing problem. So now the basic model become test ride bike lor. It's not even a registered bike, hence the trade plates.

If they launched the basic model, all their 700s and 650s tak laku already....since all of them are priced so similarly. And they can't make enough headroom to price the advanced model higher because of the z900 and other bikes in the 45k-50 range from the japanese.

Having ridden the 650 and 700s, this 800 is a whole different beast

But knowing MForce, sure after a few months price go up. Can expect an average 2-3k increase after the first few months. Happened to the 650GT/MT and the 700CLX. Oddly enough the 800MT price didn't change.

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 3 2023, 06:19 PM)
Went back to test the NK800 again. The test bike available is the basic model. We will only get the advance model here. But otherwise same bike. Test route was short, filled with speedbumps. Cant do a longer route so can't test higher speed vibration or handling. So thought on it will be limited.

Power : very very sharp punchy mid range. Tried on sport a rain mode (didnt try on street mode). In sport mode, power comes on strong from 5k up. The engine is very light and rev happy. Basically if you have ridden the duke790, it is similar. Hit 80 on a short stretch between speedbumps before realizing the meter was set to mph. To be honest, the power delivery is more than enough for street use...or outright scary in sport mode if you are not used to it. Exhaust sounds damn shiok. Good bark with pops on decel. How they got this exhaust to pass euro5 is beyond me. You won't need an aftermarket end can for this.

Seating and ergo
On paper it lists seat hight at 795mm but in reality it feels more. Possible 820mm. Riding ergos are fairly comfortable as you sit fairly upright and the rear sets are below your butt, and not in a too sporty position. Feels more spacious than the z900. The nk800s riding position is between the duke790 and the 790 adventure. Which means you can still stand up on the pegs. The seat felt a bit hard. Maybe questionable comfort if used for.long distance. Pillion seat is very very hard.  The clutch is a bit heavier than expected...not sure if it has a slip and assist clutch.

Handling. Low speed is a a bit ponderous but balanced. No opportunity to test at higher speeds.

General fit and finish. The plastics felt cheap. One wing mirror is broken maybe, cant adjust it low enough, only see sky. Under seat storage is zero.

Didnt try cruise control. Didn't get up to speed.
No quick shifter installed on base model, but the shifting feel is light and positive. Able to do clutchless up down without too much issues even without the Q/S.

Brakes. Strong, but could use a bit more sharpness. Rear brakes are surprisingly good.

My main issues.
Bike does not have traction control. Especially on a throttle this sharp and power delivery this immediate. This is one bike you will probably need to use rain mode when it rains.

Bike has a high mounted exhaust. So pannier fitments will be an issue. Very limited aftermarket availability of accessories yet.

Verdict.
You won't find this power and gadgets for 39k. All accessories come standard. (Q/S, steering damper, big ipad screen with phone integration/cruise control)

Waiting for another test ride with open highways to test cruising speed vibrations before deciding...but like I said, it's either this or the z900.

In comparison, the z900 has a more linear powerband, sportier ergo. and longer legs for those that want to speed 200+ on the highways. Plus, it has all the accessories already available in the market.

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I'm honestly torn between the Z900 and 800NK. I've been riding my Z250 for awhile. In terms of looks, the 800NK looks much better than the Z900. But the screaming inline 4 sound is very tempting. Which would you get out of the two? p/s: Hoping for B2 to B to be finalized as confirmed coming December. If not will have to take the B full course

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QUOTE(LuqmanRustam @ Nov 9 2023, 11:33 AM)
I'm honestly torn between the Z900 and 800NK. I've been riding my Z250 for awhile. In terms of looks, the 800NK looks much better than the Z900. But the screaming inline 4 sound is very tempting. Which would you get out of the two? p/s: Hoping for B2 to B to be finalized as confirmed coming December. If not will have to take the B full course
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It's currently up in the air for me as well. It's either the z900 or the nk800.

I like the power delivery of the NK...it's a very fun and punchy bike. But the z900 seems the easier (and maybe) safer and more relaxing to ride, having a more linear power delivery and traction control. As for longer term reliability, I'm leaning towards the Z as there are many proven older bikes and the wealth of accessories for it already in the market. KTM hasn't been well known for reliability.....they make engines for a good time, not for a long time..... as is the big question mark of MForce long term support on the bike.

The nk however has a more relaxed riding position than the z.

As for value , nothing comes close to the NK800. Given the inclusion of cruise control, quick shifter, steering damper and that big connected ipad screen...really curious why they saw fit to exclude traction control...which is it's only Achilles heel.

Having ridden both recently, I still can't decide between the two maybe give it a few months cooling off period then decide again next year after the NK has had some time to sort out it's production run.
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