QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Jul 16 2023, 09:44 AM)
Yup... on my nearly 2 years old Zenfone 8.Used to switch on 5G, but 5G kills the battery like no tomorrow.
DNB 5G Wholesale Pricing.
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Jul 16 2023, 12:47 PM
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Jul 16 2023, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(LuckyBai @ Jul 16 2023, 12:22 PM) this is why i will never sign unifi home broadband .. Instead, maxis is my preferred home broadband provider .Very sick of TM's unethical business modal Well, during the 3G and early 4G era, Maxis and other celcos were profit-gouging the subscribers by selling 1GB of Internet data for RM10, eg a 3G mobile phone plan with 5GB of data quota but unlimited speed cost RM50 per month in 2014. Things only got better with lower prices in 2018 when newcomer upstart U Mobile from Singapore started offering affordable GX30 and GX50 phone plans with "unlimited" data but limited speed. To me, Internet is now a basic essential utility like electricity and water supply = so, Internet network access should be nationalized or government-controlled, not privatized, for better consumer protection, even if it is more costly because of bad politics, inefficiencies, etc. Do we also want to privatize the Police and Armed Forces.? . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jul 16 2023, 12:40 PM) . Not saying that DNB is bad but that my existing Telco is trying to force us to migrate to 5G to defray their cost of subscribing to DNB 😤Mobile 4G/5G Internet has limited bandwidth capacity and high urban subscriber density per cell tower = is often subjected to traffic congestion during peak hours, especially in urban areas, ... unlike Fixed/Immoblie TM Unifi Fiber Internet. Eg each cell tower has to serve a maximum of about 500 active subscribers at any one time whereas each fiber cable has to serve a maximum of only about 50 active subscribers in linked-homes or shops or condos at any one time. Afaik, DNB1 has a total of 5.6Gbps bandwidth capacity per cell tower for it's 5G bands of 700MHz and 3.5GHz, to be wholesale to the 5 celcos. DNB2 should have about the same 5G bandwidth capacity per cell tower in mid 2024. ....... DNB1's high bandwidth capacity of >10Gbps per small-cell for it's 5G mmWave Band of 28GHz can be ignored because of it's very short range of about 50m, whose small-cells are only deployed in downtown city centers and high foot traffic areas like MRT main stations, shopping malls, stadiums and concert halls. For 4G, each celco has about 2Gbps of bandwidth capacity per cell tower = totalling about 10Gbps of bandwidth capacity (= 5 celcos) for Bands 800MHz to 2600MHz. So, from a mobile subscriber's perpective, by mid 2024 when DWN (= DNB1 and DNB2) is in operation, 50% of subscribers should remain on 4G and 50% of them should be on 5G, in order to minimize traffic congestion during peak hours, esp in urban areas. Note that subscribers can opt to use 4G even if they are on a 5G mobile plan. ....... Of course, this scenario is subject to the government not phasing out 4G, which may happen if >80% of subscribers are on 5G in 2025 = often causing traffic congestion during peak hours.. . One easy way is obviously crippled LTE which is provided without value added charges as opposed to 5G, which mostly required additional cost 😡 |
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Jul 18 2023, 02:03 PM
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https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2023/07/17...rk-integration/ - 2023/07/17 - celcomdigi-huawei-zte-partner-to-hype-up-network-integration .... This new network is designed to be able to potentially transition seamlessly into a new 5G network with an 18,000-site reach – the right infrastructure to usher Malaysia into the era of ultra-high speeds, low latency, and the opportunities of a more connected future. This is a significant development for CelcomDigi and the industry, and we are excited to be leading the way – now with strategic partners Huawei and ZTE – to realise the potential of our shared digital future,” Datuk Idham added. ... . https://www.digital-nasional.com.my/four-ma...uity-stakes-dnb - Four major telcos take up equity stakes in DNB - 7 Oct 2022 .... DNB said Celcom Axiata has taken up 12.5% in stakes, followed by Digi Telecommunications (12.5%), YTL Communications (20%), and TM (20%). ... https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/666461 - TM joins CelcomDigi to withdraw equity participation in DNB - 10 May 2023 Looks like even the GLC Celcom-Digi and TM will be abandoning DNB1 and moving to DNB2 in early or mid 2024 because of the very high wholesale prices charged by DNB1, ie can cost a celco RM360 million per annum for access to just 1Gbps of bandwidth capacity and 1,000 5G cell towers, mostly in urban areas. . DNB1 has a total 5.6Gbps bandwidth capacity per 5G cell tower for it's long range 700MHz and 3.5GHz frequency Bands to be wholesale to celcos. Problem is, how much bandwidth capacity or frequency bands will the government sell to DNB2.? Jialat if DNB2 gets only 3Gbps = only 2 celcos can buy wholesale, ie 1.5Gbps each. Note that for 4G, each of the 5 major celcos has about 2Gbps of total bandwidth capacity for it's long range 800MHz to 2600MHz frequency bands = total for the 5 celcos is about 10Gbps to be sold to subscribers. . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jul 18 2023, 02:03 PM) . Last known wholesale price was RM 30000 per Gbps per month, will result into RM 360K per Gbps per year, RM360millions means 1000 Gbps and I don't see where it means per 1000 cell site as well....https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2023/07/17...rk-integration/ - 2023/07/17 - celcomdigi-huawei-zte-partner-to-hype-up-network-integration .... This new network is designed to be able to potentially transition seamlessly into a new 5G network with an 18,000-site reach – the right infrastructure to usher Malaysia into the era of ultra-high speeds, low latency, and the opportunities of a more connected future. This is a significant development for CelcomDigi and the industry, and we are excited to be leading the way – now with strategic partners Huawei and ZTE – to realise the potential of our shared digital future,” Datuk Idham added. ... . https://www.digital-nasional.com.my/four-ma...uity-stakes-dnb - Four major telcos take up equity stakes in DNB - 7 Oct 2022 .... DNB said Celcom Axiata has taken up 12.5% in stakes, followed by Digi Telecommunications (12.5%), YTL Communications (20%), and TM (20%). ... https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/666461 - TM joins CelcomDigi to withdraw equity participation in DNB - 10 May 2023 Looks like even the GLC Celcom-Digi and TM will be abandoning DNB1 and moving to DNB2 in early or mid 2024 because of the very high wholesale prices charged by DNB1, ie can cost a celco RM360 million per annum for access to just 1Gbps of bandwidth capacity and 1,000 5G cell towers, mostly in urban areas. . DNB1 has a total 5.6Gbps bandwidth capacity per 5G cell tower for it's long range 700MHz and 3.5GHz frequency Bands to be wholesale to celcos. Problem is, how much bandwidth capacity or frequency bands will the government sell to DNB2.? Jialat if DNB2 gets only 3Gbps = only 2 celcos can buy wholesale, ie 1.5Gbps each. Note that for 4G, each of the 5 major celcos has about 2Gbps of total bandwidth capacity for it's long range 800MHz to 2600MHz frequency bands = total for the 5 celcos is about 10Gbps to be sold to subscribers. . DNB1 will be as a private company as well after reach 80% of coverage, the most valuable thing is its 700Mhz frequency band (20Mhz x 2) and also 3.5Gbps frequency band (200Mhz).. i don't think any telco will abandon it unless the price going to sell to telco is very expensive. |
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Jul 18 2023, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(mlamlam @ Jul 18 2023, 03:16 PM) Last known wholesale price was RM 30000 per Gbps per month, will result into RM 360K per Gbps per year, RM360millions means 1000 Gbps and I don't see where it means per 1000 cell site as well.... .DNB1 will be as a private company as well after reach 80% of coverage, the most valuable thing is its 700Mhz frequency band (20Mhz x 2) and also 3.5Gbps frequency band (200Mhz).. i don't think any telco will abandon it unless the price going to sell to telco is very expensive. Not even TM Fiber Wholesale can offer 1,000Gbps of bandwidth capacity to TM Unifi Fiber, Maxis Fiber, Celcom Fiber, Astro Fiber and Time dotcom. Each TM Fiber-optic cable has 10Gbps bandwidth capacity, ....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10G-PON 10G-PON (also known as XG-PON or G.987) is a 2010 computer networking standard for data links, capable of delivering shared Internet access rates up to 10 Gbit/s (gigabits per second) over existing dark fiber. ... So, it's quite impossible for a 5G or 4G cell tower to have a bandwidth capacity of 1,000Gbps. . As of May 2023, DNB1 has set up 1,000 5G cell towers which covers 60% of the population of Malaysia (not area), mostly in the main cities and urban areas. That RM360 million per annum 5G cost is based on these figures. It's quite likely the celcos can choose to buy access to 500 or 1,000 or 1,500 or 2,000 5G cell towers from DNB1 and pay accordingly. Note that Celcom-Digi has 18,000 4G and 2G cell towers, covering maybe 80% of Malaysia's areas, including many rural areas and kampungs. . |
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It is saying the connection between DNB and the telco has 1000Gbps. from the image below, i remembered DNB has more than 1000 cell tower but many of them are not yet enabled. ![]() another news already confirmed that DNB rolled out 1915 sites already. https://soyacincau.com/2023/01/04/fahmi-fad...t-verification/ assuming all cell site full load, DNB has the capacity of 10,724Gbps.. It is reasonable for each telco renting 1000-3000Gbps for their needs, and probably minimum order is 1000Gbps, thats why M is paying the minimum order. |
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Jul 18 2023, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(mlamlam @ Jul 18 2023, 05:27 PM) It is not saying per cell site has 1000Gbps DNB isn't a telco to begin with.. That's why they dony understand how a telco works It is saying the connection between DNB and the telco has 1000Gbps. from the image below, i remembered DNB has more than 1000 cell tower but many of them are not yet enabled. ![]() another news already confirmed that DNB rolled out 1915 sites already. https://soyacincau.com/2023/01/04/fahmi-fad...t-verification/ assuming all cell site full load, DNB has the capacity of 10,724Gbps.. It is reasonable for each telco renting 1000-3000Gbps for their needs, and probably minimum order is 1000Gbps, thats why M is paying the minimum order. |
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Jul 18 2023, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(mlamlam @ Jul 18 2023, 05:27 PM) It is not saying per cell site has 1000Gbps .It is saying the connection between DNB and the telco has 1000Gbps. from the image below, i remembered DNB has more than 1000 cell tower but many of them are not yet enabled. ![]() another news already confirmed that DNB rolled out 1915 sites already. https://soyacincau.com/2023/01/04/fahmi-fad...t-verification/ assuming all cell site full load, DNB has the capacity of 10,724Gbps.. It is reasonable for each telco renting 1000-3000Gbps for their needs, and probably minimum order is 1000Gbps, thats why M is paying the minimum order. Fyi, ....... QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Mar 6 2023, 05:08 PM) . https://soyacincau.com/2023/03/03/fahmi-bro...access-pricing/ - 2023/03/03 - fahmi-broadband-services-will-be-cheaper-with-updated-mandatory-standard-on-access-pricing ... At the moment, DNB’s published Reference Access Offer (RAO) for 5G access pricing starts from RM30,000 per Gbps per month that’s locked to a 10-year contract duration. DNB has said it is open to conduct a price review every 18 months either via an independent party or through the MSAP. .... ![]() In case you’re wondering why the wholesale price for 100Mbps costs more than retail pricing, broadband providers only subscribe to wholesale access based on the total peak network usage, not based on the accumulative total bandwidth “sold” to its customers. For example, if there are 1,000 customers subscribed to 100Mbps, the retail provider isn’t going to sign up for 100Gbps per month. The reality is that not all customers will maximise their total subscribed bandwidth all at the same time. ... - post #1 Maybe TM Fiber Wholesale can offer up to 500Gbps by laying 50 Fiber-optic cables for places like huge shopping malls/complexes and skyscraper office buildings. QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Jul 15 2023, 01:59 PM) . Update and price confirmation; ....... https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...provided-by-dnb - 2023/07/14 - maxis-to-execute-access-agreement-on-5g-products-services-provided-by-dnb ... The Access Agreement is expected to be executed by Maxis Broadband after Maxis has obtained the approval of its shareholders at the extraordinary general meeting to be convened, expected in the third quarter of 2023. Maxis Group is expected to incur operating expenses of approximately RM360 million per annum for the National 5G Wholesale Network Product. QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Apr 18 2023, 12:56 PM) . Latest Update: https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...or-the-industry - 2023/04/18 - second-5g-rollout- (.?) a-bonus-for-the-industry ... In 2022, DNB announced that the SWN model would cost telecommunication operators RM30,000 one gigabits per second (Gbps) per month on 5G leasing charges. “Assuming a take-up rate of 1,000 Gbps, this would ultimately cost the telcos a whopping RM360mil a year to provide 5G to consumers. “They also have to pay a fixed upfront fees regardless of how far the 5G population coverage progresses – a concern to the market as dividend payments might be significantly reduced given the additional costs,” said Kenanga Research. .... . Now I'm not really sure how DNB1 charges the celcos it's wholesale prices. Guessing; ... Maxis Fiber Home charges subscribers RM129 per month for 100Mbps and Maxis pays TM Fiber Wholesale RM254 per month for 100Mbps. It's likely that at this wholesale price, Maxis Fiber has to over-sell it's 100Mbps plan to 4 subscribers living in the same row of linked-homes, in order to turn a profit, ie 4 X RM129 = RM516 - RM254 = RM272 - some costs = about RM150 profit per month. During peak period when all 4 home subscribers are online, each can only get 25Mbps, ie 100Mbps/4. For DNB1's wholesale prices to celcos and for 5G subscribers, the principle should be about the same. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jul 18 2023, 07:26 PM |
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Jul 19 2023, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jul 18 2023, 06:34 PM) . Yes, you are correctFyi, ....... - post #1 Maybe TM Fiber Wholesale can offer up to 500Gbps by laying 50 Fiber-optic cables for places like huge shopping malls/complexes and skyscraper office buildings. . Now I'm not really sure how DNB1 charges the celcos it's wholesale prices. Guessing; ... Maxis Fiber Home charges subscribers RM129 per month for 100Mbps and Maxis pays TM Fiber Wholesale RM254 per month for 100Mbps. It's likely that at this wholesale price, Maxis Fiber has to over-sell it's 100Mbps plan to 4 subscribers living in the same row of linked-homes, in order to turn a profit, ie 4 X RM129 = RM516 - RM254 = RM272 - some costs = about RM150 profit per month. During peak period when all 4 home subscribers are online, each can only get 25Mbps, ie 100Mbps/4. For DNB1's wholesale prices to celcos and for 5G subscribers, the principle should be about the same. . like Local ISP rent bandwidth from the service provider of having submarine fiber cable... you are assuming all 4 family are doing speed test at the same time, then in such scenarios each family probably only get 25Mbps but I think there may be a peak usage or special conditions like Azure, in Azure you can dynamically assign the resources base on your load so that your service won't be affected. the charges are also dynamic and calculated at a later stage, of course there is a limit can set, like maximum load is 200% of the original (for example), this kind of things may also implemented between the TM and other Telco. |
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Jul 21 2023, 04:49 PM
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Latest Update: ....... https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...on-in-5g-agency - Malaysia telecoms firms reach agreement on equity participation in 5G agency - 21 July 2023 KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia said on Friday telecommunications firms CelcomDigi, Maxis, Telekom Malaysia, U Mobile and YTL Communications will take up stakes in state 5G agency Digital Nasional Berhad (DNB), following an agreement reached between the firms and the government on equity participation and 5G access. The announcement comes as mobile operators and the government look set to conclude protracted negotiations over Malaysia's 5G rollout plans. Malaysia had in 2021 announced that state-owned DNB would own the full 5G spectrum, with carriers using the infrastructure to provide mobile services. But the plan was met with industry concern over pricing, transparency and monopolistic practices. Mobile operators agreed in October last year to take up 70% of DNB's stake to resolve the impasse. However, the deal lapsed after Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim's administration - which took power after an election in November last year - announced a review of the government's 5G plans. In May, the government said it would allow in a second 5G operator next year when DNB's coverage reaches 80% of populated areas. On Friday, the communications ministry said in a statement the telecoms firms will take appropriate governance actions to complete the shareholding process in DNB. It did not however provide details on the division in equity or the value of the deal. Last week, Maxis Berhad agreed to sign a deal to access DNB's network, the last major carrier to do so. Other carriers had signed the deal last year, paving the way for 5G services to be rolled out to customers. - Reuters . |
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Jul 22 2023, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jul 21 2023, 04:49 PM) . So in the end, all the drama, DNB is still the only provider. Monopoly wins.Latest Update: ....... https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...on-in-5g-agency - Malaysia telecoms firms reach agreement on equity participation in 5G agency - 21 July 2023 KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia said on Friday telecommunications firms CelcomDigi, Maxis, Telekom Malaysia, U Mobile and YTL Communications will take up stakes in state 5G agency Digital Nasional Berhad (DNB), following an agreement reached between the firms and the government on equity participation and 5G access. The announcement comes as mobile operators and the government look set to conclude protracted negotiations over Malaysia's 5G rollout plans. Malaysia had in 2021 announced that state-owned DNB would own the full 5G spectrum, with carriers using the infrastructure to provide mobile services. But the plan was met with industry concern over pricing, transparency and monopolistic practices. Mobile operators agreed in October last year to take up 70% of DNB's stake to resolve the impasse. However, the deal lapsed after Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim's administration - which took power after an election in November last year - announced a review of the government's 5G plans. In May, the government said it would allow in a second 5G operator next year when DNB's coverage reaches 80% of populated areas. On Friday, the communications ministry said in a statement the telecoms firms will take appropriate governance actions to complete the shareholding process in DNB. It did not however provide details on the division in equity or the value of the deal. Last week, Maxis Berhad agreed to sign a deal to access DNB's network, the last major carrier to do so. Other carriers had signed the deal last year, paving the way for 5G services to be rolled out to customers. - Reuters . |
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Jul 22 2023, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 22 2023, 07:30 AM) .Not really. Celcom-Digi and TM Unifi Mobile are GLCs. So, DNB1 will still remain government-controlled = more poltically influenced, more inefficient, less productive, less tech know-hows, higher wholesale 5G prices, etc - similar to TM Fiber HSBB and Tenaga Naional. ....... DNB2 whose separate 5G network will launch in early 2024 will likely be privately-owned by the non-GLC celcos, eg Maxis, U Mobile and YES. DNB1 uses mostly Ericsson equipment to set up it's 5G network of cell towers whereas DNB2 will be using mostly much cheaper Huawei and ZTE equipment. . |
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Jul 22 2023, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jul 22 2023, 11:24 AM) . Not for the news said though, all will go into DNB stakesNot really. Celcom-Digi and TM Unifi Mobile are GLCs. So, DNB1 will still remain government-controlled = more poltically influenced, more inefficient, less productive, less tech know-hows, higher wholesale 5G prices, etc - similar to TM Fiber HSBB and Tenaga Naional. ....... DNB2 whose separate 5G network will launch in early 2024 will likely be privately-owned by the non-GLC celcos, eg Maxis, U Mobile and YES. DNB1 uses mostly Ericsson equipment to set up it's 5G network of cell towers whereas DNB2 will be using mostly much cheaper Huawei and ZTE equipment. . |
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Jul 22 2023, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 22 2023, 12:51 PM) .Info from an old news article, ....... https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2022/08/31...ject-dnb-stake/ - 2022/08/31 - malaysia's-5G -plan-derailed- Maxis-and-U Mobile-reject- DNB -stake .... Reuters said Maxis and U Mobile counter proposed for an equal share of the 70% equity in DNB to share between the 6 telcos but this was apparently rejected by the government. Both telcos found that being a minority shareholder was not beneficial and have stated that they will continue to discuss with DNB for 5G access. ... It's possible that Maxis and U Mobile now have to invest a bit in a small stake in DNB1 so that their privately-owned DNB2 can take off smoothly in early 2024 with better government cooperation or less red-tape. . |
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Latest news; ... https://soyacincau.com/2023/07/30/tm-releas...adband-pricing/ - TM -release-rao-2023-hsbb-pricing-msap-may-not-reduce-broadband-pricing ... According to TM’s new RAO, they have set tiered pricing and the wholesale charges is only cheaper with higher monthly volume. On the lowest tier of 0-499,999Mbps, TM is charging RM8 per Mbps/month versus RM2.55 per Mbps for the highest tier of 9,000,000Mbps and above. That means providers with low monthly volume (less than 500Gbps) would have to pay RM800 for 100Mbps, while providers that can commit to a minimum of 9Tbps per month will only need to pay RM255/month for 100Mbps. .... . Wholesale pricing vs retail pricing In case you’re wondering why the wholesale 100Mbps cost is higher than what retail customers are paying at the moment (e.g. 100Mbps for RM99/month or RM129/month), you’re not alone. Take note that broadband providers will only subscribe to the required HSBB wholesale bandwidth according to their average total utilisation. For example, if a provider has just ten 100Mbps customers, they will not subscribe 1Gbps bandwidth as not all customers will be fully utilising their bandwidth at all times. If the peak concurrent utilisation is only 300Mbps, they would only need 300Mbps with slightly more headroom as an extra buffer. ....... Since DNB1 and later DNB2 have to pay TM HSBB for backhaul Internet Fiber connections for it's 5G cell towers, the above wholesale pricing by TM HSBB may affect celcos and subscribers, ie DNB1 may lower it's own wholesale prices that it charges celcos, ie RM30,000 per month per 1Gbps presently. ....... Also, it's quite to be expected that DNB1 and DNB2 are or will be buying at least 9Tbps per month of total broadband capacity from TM HSBB Wholesale which is priced at RM255 per month per 100Mbps, since each celco has millions of subscribers nationwide. For an example and calculation sake, the above news article says Maxis Fiber has 600,000 Fiber subscribers. Let's say Maxis Fiber buys all it's broadband capacity from TM HSBB Wholesale and it's subcribers have an average 100Mbps Fiber plan, Maxis Fiber will need to buy wholesale a broadband capacity of 20Tbps per month, ... ie 600,000 X 100Mbps divided by 3 = 20,000,000Mbps = 20Tbps, .... which is priced at RM255 per month for 100Mbps by TM HSBB Wholesale. So, this means the new 2023 MSAP by MCMC/Fahmi and RAO by TM HSBB Wholesale of RM255 per month per 100Mbps will likely apply to most telco/celco ISP = it's likely that subscribers can expect lower/cheaper Fiber plans in Sep 2023 and maybe also for Mobile 4G/5G plans, esp when DNB2 comes into operation in mid-2024. . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ QUOTE((zerorating @ Jul 31 2023, 01:04 PM) https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5396881/+40 - post #52= TM HSBB Wholesale's RAO prices have been drastically reduced from 2020 to 2023 with the new MSAP 2023 announced by Fahmi/MCMC. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jul 31 2023, 07:52 PM |
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Latest news from TM HSBB about it's new RAO, ....... https://soyacincau.com/2023/07/31/tm-rao-hs...cing-msap-2023/ - Despite tiered pricing, TM says all fibre broadband players will enjoy lower HSBB wholesale price with latest RAO BY Alexander Wong - 31 July 2023 - 11:41 am Please also see the preceding post above. So, Fiber subscribers can expect lower prices in Sep 2023 and maybe also for Mobile 4G/5G subscribers. . |
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This TM HSBB related to 5G backhaul? Thought only for those offering Home Fibre services like Unifi and Maxis Home Fibre …
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 2 2023, 08:33 AM) This TM HSBB related to 5G backhaul? Thought only for those offering Home Fibre services like Unifi and Maxis Home Fibre … .Yes, but maybe the wholesale prices charged by TM HSBB Wholesale is different for Fiber Internet ISP and Mobile 4G Internet ISP or/and DNB's Mobile 5G Internet, ....... https://www.telecomasia.net/content/tm-celc...-backhaul-deal/ - TM, Celcom and Digi ink wholesale backhaul deal Fiona Chau 16 Dec 2013 Malaysia’s three major telcos, Telekom Malaysia , Celcom and Digi, signed a wholesale bandwidth deal to provide extensive backhaul infrastructure for broadband rollout in the country on Friday. Under the agreement, TM will provide wholesale bandwidth connectivity via TM Next-Gen Backhaul services for aggregation and access sites jointly owned by Celcom (via subsidiary Celcom Networks) and DiGi, covering between 3,000-km and 5,000-km in Peninsular Malaysia. ... The collaboration, he added, spans more than ten years and involves two phases. “The first phase will be over a three year period starting from 2014 until 2016 followed by the second phase deployment of additional sites for mobile access and aggregator sites across Peninsular Malaysia,” Tan Sri Zamzamzairani said. TM is expected to gain between 400 million ringgit ($123.7 million) and 600 million ringgit ($185.6 million) in lease fees over the next 10 to 15 years, Bernama quoted Tan Sri Zamzamzairani as saying. . Afaik, Maxis has been paying TM HSBB Wholesale RM89 per 30Mbps (= RM9 per 3Mbps) for it's Fiber Internet backhaul connections for it's 4G cell towers. Hence most basic prepaid 4G phone plans from celcos start from RM30 @6Mbps @FUP monthly data limit . |
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