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post Jul 22 2023, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jul 22 2023, 12:51 PM)
Not for the news said though, all will go into DNB stakes
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Info from an old news article, .......

https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2022/08/31...ject-dnb-stake/ - 2022/08/31 - malaysia's-5G -plan-derailed- Maxis-and-U Mobile-reject- DNB -stake
.... Reuters said Maxis and U Mobile counter proposed for an equal share of the 70% equity in DNB to share between the 6 telcos but this was apparently rejected by the government. Both telcos found that being a minority shareholder was not beneficial and have stated that they will continue to discuss with DNB for 5G access. ...

It's possible that Maxis and U Mobile now have to invest a bit in a small stake in DNB1 so that their privately-owned DNB2 can take off smoothly in early 2024 with better government cooperation or less red-tape.
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post Jul 30 2023, 07:22 PM

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Latest news; ...

https://soyacincau.com/2023/07/30/tm-releas...adband-pricing/ - TM -release-rao-2023-hsbb-pricing-msap-may-not-reduce-broadband-pricing
... According to TM’s new RAO, they have set tiered pricing and the wholesale charges is only cheaper with higher monthly volume. On the lowest tier of 0-499,999Mbps, TM is charging RM8 per Mbps/month versus RM2.55 per Mbps for the highest tier of 9,000,000Mbps and above. That means providers with low monthly volume (less than 500Gbps) would have to pay RM800 for 100Mbps, while providers that can commit to a minimum of 9Tbps per month will only need to pay RM255/month for 100Mbps. ....
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Wholesale pricing vs retail pricing

In case you’re wondering why the wholesale 100Mbps cost is higher than what retail customers are paying at the moment (e.g. 100Mbps for RM99/month or RM129/month), you’re not alone. Take note that broadband providers will only subscribe to the required HSBB wholesale bandwidth according to their average total utilisation. For example, if a provider has just ten 100Mbps customers, they will not subscribe 1Gbps bandwidth as not all customers will be fully utilising their bandwidth at all times. If the peak concurrent utilisation is only 300Mbps, they would only need 300Mbps with slightly more headroom as an extra buffer. .......


Since DNB1 and later DNB2 have to pay TM HSBB for backhaul Internet Fiber connections for it's 5G cell towers, the above wholesale pricing by TM HSBB may affect celcos and subscribers, ie DNB1 may lower it's own wholesale prices that it charges celcos, ie RM30,000 per month per 1Gbps presently.
....... Also, it's quite to be expected that DNB1 and DNB2 are or will be buying at least 9Tbps per month of total broadband capacity from TM HSBB Wholesale which is priced at RM255 per month per 100Mbps, since each celco has millions of subscribers nationwide.


For an example and calculation sake, the above news article says Maxis Fiber has 600,000 Fiber subscribers. Let's say Maxis Fiber buys all it's broadband capacity from TM HSBB Wholesale and it's subcribers have an average 100Mbps Fiber plan, Maxis Fiber will need to buy wholesale a broadband capacity of 20Tbps per month, ... ie 600,000 X 100Mbps divided by 3 = 20,000,000Mbps = 20Tbps, .... which is priced at RM255 per month for 100Mbps by TM HSBB Wholesale.

So, this means the new 2023 MSAP by MCMC/Fahmi and RAO by TM HSBB Wholesale of RM255 per month per 100Mbps will likely apply to most telco/celco ISP = it's likely that subscribers can expect lower/cheaper Fiber plans in Sep 2023 and maybe also for Mobile 4G/5G plans, esp when DNB2 comes into operation in mid-2024.
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QUOTE((zerorating @ Jul 31 2023, 01:04 PM)
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meanwhile dnb 5g charge rm30000/rm22000 per gbps
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5396881/+40 - post #52

= TM HSBB Wholesale's RAO prices have been drastically reduced from 2020 to 2023 with the new MSAP 2023 announced by Fahmi/MCMC.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jul 31 2023, 07:52 PM
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post Aug 1 2023, 07:26 PM

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Latest news from TM HSBB about it's new RAO, .......

https://soyacincau.com/2023/07/31/tm-rao-hs...cing-msap-2023/ - Despite tiered pricing, TM says all fibre broadband players will enjoy lower HSBB wholesale price with latest RAO
BY Alexander Wong - 31 July 2023 - 11:41 am


Please also see the preceding post above.

So, Fiber subscribers can expect lower prices in Sep 2023 and maybe also for Mobile 4G/5G subscribers.
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post Aug 2 2023, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 2 2023, 08:33 AM)
This TM HSBB related to 5G backhaul? Thought only for those offering Home Fibre services like Unifi and Maxis Home Fibre …
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Yes, but maybe the wholesale prices charged by TM HSBB Wholesale is different for Fiber Internet ISP and Mobile 4G Internet ISP or/and DNB's Mobile 5G Internet, .......

https://www.telecomasia.net/content/tm-celc...-backhaul-deal/ - TM, Celcom and Digi ink wholesale backhaul deal
Fiona Chau
16 Dec 2013

Malaysia’s three major telcos, Telekom Malaysia ™, Celcom and Digi, signed a wholesale bandwidth deal to provide extensive backhaul infrastructure for broadband rollout in the country on Friday.
Under the agreement, TM will provide wholesale bandwidth connectivity via TM Next-Gen Backhaul services for aggregation and access sites jointly owned by Celcom (via subsidiary Celcom Networks) and DiGi, covering between 3,000-km and 5,000-km in Peninsular Malaysia. ...

The collaboration, he added, spans more than ten years and involves two phases.
“The first phase will be over a three year period starting from 2014 until 2016 followed by the second phase deployment of additional sites for mobile access and aggregator sites across Peninsular Malaysia,” Tan Sri Zamzamzairani said.
TM is expected to gain between 400 million ringgit ($123.7 million) and 600 million ringgit ($185.6 million) in lease fees over the next 10 to 15 years, Bernama quoted Tan Sri Zamzamzairani as saying.


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Afaik, Maxis has been paying TM HSBB Wholesale RM89 per 30Mbps (= RM9 per 3Mbps) for it's Fiber Internet backhaul connections for it's 4G cell towers. Hence most basic prepaid 4G phone plans from celcos start from RM30 @6Mbps @FUP monthly data limit
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post Aug 3 2023, 04:25 PM

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UPDATE: .......

https://www.lowyat.net/2023/304508/fahmi-fa...rnet-september/ - Fahmi: Cheaper Internet Prices Are Definitely Coming In September
The price drop will be in line with the adoption of the MSAP.
BY JOHN LAW AUGUST 1, 2023

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post Aug 3 2023, 08:08 PM

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Latest News Update: ...

https://soyacincau.com/2023/08/02/tm-higher...-mcmc-response/ - Can TM charge higher HSBB wholesale rates than MSAP? Here’s MCMC’s response
BY Alexander Wong - 2 August 2023 - 9:36 pm

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post Aug 7 2023, 05:58 PM

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News Update: ...

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...september/83942 - 2023/08/07 - Fahmi: -govt-instructs-broadband-service-providers-to-reduce-internet-prices-by-september
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So, it's quite likely that Fiber Internet prices will come down in Sep 2023. Hopefully Mobile 4G/5G Internet prices will go down as well.
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post Aug 11 2023, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(JLA @ Aug 11 2023, 10:17 AM)
telco tower fiber backhaul not using HSBB fiber network.
MSAP rates not relevant

You dont want during TM fiber cable cut, mobile phone 2G 4G 5G also down no service
TM fiber for Touch ‘n Go PayDirect and RFID payment not connected to HSBB fiber network too
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I don't think you are correct, .......

https://www.malaysianwireless.com/2015/05/u...ervices-4g-lte/ - U Mobile to use TM Next-Gen Backhaul services to accelerate 4G LTE rollout - 27/05/2015
Under this collaborative deal, TM will be providing fibre mobile backhaul connectivity via its TM Next-Gen Backhaul Services (NGBH) of up to 1Gbps per U Mobile base station that covers Central, Southern, Eastern and Northern regions of the country (except East Malaysia).

U Mobile will be deploying 1,000 4G LTE sites this year.


TM NGBH is a fiberised point-to-point backhaul connectivity network that is able to support 4G Long Term Evolution (LTE) rollout in providing high speed Internet experience, excellent voice and video quality through its high bandwidth capacity and reliable low latency. This collaboration will facilitate ramping up of U Mobile’s capacity, hence accelerating its 4G LTE rollout nationwide, it said.

TM said it is a neutral wholesale service provider and is committed to supporting the growth of telecommunications industry as well as is working hard towards delivering an enhanced service experience to end customers.

By leasing wholesale bandwidth services and leveraging on TM’s strength on its nationwide fibre coverage and resilient network platform, U Mobile said it will be able to gain quick access to fibre infrastructure to support its future network capacity demands, to deliver affordable and high-quality internet connectivity to more Malaysians.
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Also, in the above disrupted TnG and RFID payment case at DUKE highway, DUKE's business subscription to TM Unifi Fiber is also via TM Unifi Fiber buying (in-house) from TM Fiber HSBB Wholesale but at very much discounted MSAP rates, ie compared to wholesale prices sold to Maxis Fiber and Time dotcom. Similarly for the backhaul 4G LTE-Fiber Internet connections for TM Unifi Mobile & Celcom-Digi vs U Mobile, YES and Maxis Mobile.
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NB - Both TM and Celcom are GLCs or state-owned businesses.
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post Sep 8 2023, 05:01 PM

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Delayed Update: .......

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...e-says-mcmc-coo - 2023/05/09 - dnb-to-be-taken-over-by-a-private-entity-after-achieving-80-5g-coverage-says-mcmc-coo
PETALING JAYA: Digital Nasional Berhad (DNB) will be taken over by a new entity following its scheduled achievement of 80% 5G coverage by end of this year, according to MCMC.

The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission’s (MCMC) chief operating officer Datuk Mohd Ali Hanafiah Mohd Yunus confirmed in a Bernama TV interview that the government would be withdrawing its stake in DNB when the transition occurs.

The move would turn the government-owned 5G wholesale service network operator into a wholly private company under the new entity.

He further stated that two entities would be formed – one to take over DNB operations, and another to take charge of the country’s second 5G network planned to be established after DNB achieves 80% 5G coverage.

This comes after Communications and Digital Minister Fahmi Fadzil announced that the country would be shifting to a dual network model last week.

Fahmi also said the shift would allow for services to be provided at affordable rates, increase network capacity and avoid having a single point of failure. ...

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Will the government be holding a controlling Golden Share in DNB1 after divesting it's stake in DNB to the celcos, eg as in TNB, TM, MAHB, MAS, POS M'sia, Felda FGV, MISC, PLUS, etc .?
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post Oct 17 2023, 06:24 PM

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Latest Update on DNB's 5G; .......

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...e-you-on-5g-yet - Malaysia’s 5G mobile dilemma: Are you on 5G yet? - 16 Oct 2023
Communications and Digital Minister Fahmi Fadzil reported a digital gap, with only seven million out of the 45 million mobile users in the country having 5G-ready devices.

However, according to Fahmi, only about 2.49 million users have made the jump to 5G, highlighting a significant discrepancy between the number of Malaysians capable of utilising the network and the ones actually using it.

This comes despite the country’s achievement of 70.2% 5G coverage of populated areas (COPA).

For individuals like Nick Tan, a trade management specialist, the need to transition just seems unnecessary at this point in time. ...

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post Dec 5 2023, 07:16 PM

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DNB's 5G Wholesale Prices and TM HSBB's (Fiber) 2023 MSAP Wholesale Prices, as set by MCMC, have not translated to cheaper new phone plans or cheaper new base (100Mbps = no more 50Mbps) Fiber plans.
....... IOW, the telcos/celcos have maintained or increased their prices and instead compensate subscribers by giving them free speed upgrades or more data or more hotspot data = no choice of cheaper plans given, eg no UNI5G Postpaid 49 for RM49 per month for 60GB High speed 5G+4G, 10GB hotspot, etc, and no TM Unifi Home Fiber plan for RM69 per month at 50Mbps, unlimited data, etc. .......

https://www.lowyat.net/2023/312045/unifi-un...unlimited-data/ - Unifi Announces UNI5G Family Plans With Unlimited 5G Data
Only if you sign up before 31 January though. - 1 Dec 2021

.... Paying RM129 a month gets you 150GB of hotspot data and one free supplementary line. This goes up to 200GB with two supplementary lines for the UNI5G Postpaid Family 159, and 250GB with three free lines with UNI5G Postpaid Family 189.

It’s probably worth pointing out at this point a number of items on the fine print. To start, the unlimited data is locked to the principal lines, with each supplementary line only getting a 30GB monthly data allocation. The same goes to their hotspot data allocation, which is also limited to 30GB. ...

In addition to the family plans, Unifi has so updated its postpaid plans for individuals. To start, the UNI5G Postpaid 39 has its hotspot allocation bumped up to 30GB, the same as the regular mobile data quota that the plan affords subscribers.

Then there’s the UNI5G Postpaid 69, which will be replacing the old Postpaid 65 plan. For the extra RM4 a month, your hotspot allocation is bumped up to match the 60GB monthly data. You also get unlimited 5G data for two years, but only specifically for 5G, as data consumption via 4G will be counted towards the usual 60GB monthly limit.

Finally, there’s the UN5G Postpaid 99, which will take the place of the old Postpaid 89. Like with the family plans, you’ll have to sign up for this before 31 January to enjoy unlimited data. Do so after, and you’ll have a 100GB monthly data allocation instead. For what it’s worth, like the other plans, hotspot data allocation now matches the amount you would normally get per month. ...


https://soyacincau.com/2023/06/03/unifi-mob...g-5g-data-rm89/ - 2023/06/03 - unifi-mobile-uni5g-postpaid-89-unlimited-4g-5g-data-rm89, extra lines for RM39/month each
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