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post Feb 3 2023, 11:01 AM, updated 3y ago

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Should I get Axia 2023 or get current myvi... just for driving to work... not family car...




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post Feb 3 2023, 11:09 AM

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post Feb 3 2023, 11:13 AM

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New axia no turbo. For me better myvi.
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post Feb 3 2023, 11:25 AM

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Axia is only 1L, right? MyVi 1.5L is more fuel efficient actually.
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post Feb 3 2023, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 3 2023, 12:25 PM)
Axia is only 1L, right? MyVi 1.5L is more fuel efficient actually.
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I agree.
And there is no replacement for displacement.

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post Feb 3 2023, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Feb 3 2023, 11:32 AM)
I agree.
And there is no replacement for displacement.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 3 2023, 11:25 AM)
Axia is only 1L, right? MyVi 1.5L is more fuel efficient actually.
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LOL. No replacement for displacement. doh.gif
This aint for drag race. doh.gif
TS is just going to work.

Lesser cylinders , smaller displacement = Better FC for city driving.
So are you saying (the older) Accord 2.0L will have better FC than Myvi 1.5L?
No replacement for displacement ma innocent.gif

Its only when you floor it, then your Myvi is "more fuel efficient" for racing.

You have to look into weight factor also. Lighter cars have better FC.


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post Feb 3 2023, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Feb 3 2023, 12:29 PM)
LOL. No replacement for displacement.  doh.gif
This aint for drag race.  doh.gif
TS is just going to work.

Lesser cylinders , smaller displacement = Better FC for city driving.
So are you saying (the older) Accord 2.0L will have better FC than Myvi 1.5L?
No replacement for displacement ma  innocent.gif

Its only when you floor it, then your Myvi is "more fuel efficient" for racing.

You have to look into weight factor also. Lighter cars have better FC.
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I'm not sure what he meant by No replacement for displacement, but on FC it is not as simple linear math like you imagine.

I drive Axia 1L and also MyVi 1.5L. I know from my experience that MyVi save more fuel. The gear ratio also plays part in FC. Smaller engine needs to compensate with higher gear ratio not to load engine and give better response, thus at same speed the smaller engine may have higher rpm than slightly bigger engine.

So FC is engine CC x RPM over time to be more precise. Considering same weight. smile.gif

This post has been edited by Zot: Feb 3 2023, 12:50 PM
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post Feb 3 2023, 01:17 PM

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Bigger CC is better. 1.5cc is the minimum I will drive. Not only for driving enjoyment but also the extra power is crucial when overtaking slow cars below 100km/h.
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post Feb 3 2023, 01:21 PM

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Assuming yr talking about Axia AV vs Myvi 1.5X both ard 50K right?

If you like accessories & safety gadgets then AV.
Else the 4-pot 1.5l engine offers more options when you need it, eg outstation travels. You never know suddenly company transfer you? Etc

However if strictly urban drive point A to B, perhaps the Axia X at 40K might be actually sufficient.
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post Feb 3 2023, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 3 2023, 12:45 PM)
I'm not sure what he meant by No replacement for displacement, but on FC it is not as simple linear math like you imagine.

I drive Axia 1L and also MyVi 1.5L. I know from my experience that MyVi save more fuel. The gear ratio also plays part in FC. Smaller engine needs to compensate with higher gear ratio not to load engine and give better response, thus at same speed the smaller engine may have higher rpm than slightly bigger engine.

So FC is engine CC x RPM over time to be more precise. Considering same weight.  smile.gif
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nowdays we dont see fc from rpm. there are more influencing factor
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post Feb 3 2023, 02:47 PM

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Perodua clearly stated that new Axia will be much much more efficient than previous version.

Obviously can't trust 100% about it however 25km/l claimed, you might easily get 20km/l for it.

For me, just purely for works(+got another car for longer journey) and etc, go for new Axia.
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post Feb 3 2023, 02:48 PM

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how far from home to work place?
long distance drive or city drive?
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post Feb 3 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Feb 3 2023, 02:47 PM)
Obviously can't trust 100% about it however 25km/l claimed, you might easily get 20km/l for it.

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Easily get? Perodua famous for overstating by multiple times their FC. New Alza for instance claim 22 km/l, even with purely highway drive and no jam from KL to JB I was only hitting 14 km/l. Fuelly.com shows the old Axia (the best FC Perodua car so far) roughly 15 km/l with mixed driving and 17+ km/l for highway driving, no way the new one easily gets 20 km/l.
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post Feb 3 2023, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Feb 3 2023, 02:48 PM)
how far from home to work place?
long distance drive or city drive?
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City drive in kl... sure congested
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post Feb 3 2023, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(pcdoctor_my @ Feb 3 2023, 01:29 PM)
LOL. No replacement for displacement.  doh.gif
This aint for drag race.  doh.gif
TS is just going to work.

Lesser cylinders , smaller displacement = Better FC for city driving.
So are you saying (the older) Accord 2.0L will have better FC than Myvi 1.5L?
No replacement for displacement ma  innocent.gif

Its only when you floor it, then your Myvi is "more fuel efficient" for racing.

You have to look into weight factor also. Lighter cars have better FC.
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Nobody is talking about drag racing here or comparing Accords to Myvis.
I can see a presumptuous trait going on here.

I have owned both Axia 1.0 and a Myvi 1.5 ICON. the FC between both are similar at best and
the Myvi is slightly better some times, depending on payload, route, traffic conditions and way of driving.
If one can afford it, get a car with a larger engine. Maybe its just me as I am the type of driver who is
not concerned with fuel consumption at all.

Regarding the term "no replacement for displacement", lets just agree to disagree here.
We are all entitled to our own opinions for better or for worse.

No point debating about this for no mutual gain as this could escalate into a nasty argument.
I will consider this topic closed.

Have a nice day, bro.
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Feb 3 2023, 02:53 PM)
Easily get? Perodua famous for overstating by multiple times their FC. New Alza for instance claim 22 km/l, even with purely highway drive and no jam from KL to JB I was only hitting 14 km/l. Fuelly.com shows the old Axia (the best FC Perodua car so far) roughly 15 km/l with mixed driving and 17+ km/l for highway driving, no way the new one easily gets 20 km/l.
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well, i know few owners get 20km/l with current gen Axia. In Fact if based on fuelly there is tons of owner averaging 15km/l and above . Newest Axia is even more fuel efficient than previous gen.

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example 1 of the hardcore 1.. was this real? who knows..
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Feb 3 2023, 03:03 PM)
City drive in kl... sure congested
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axia then. city drive and small car. easy for parking and cilok ma. brows.gif
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Feb 3 2023, 03:55 PM)
Nobody is talking about drag racing here or comparing Accords to Myvis.
I can see a presumptuous trait going on here.

I have owned both Axia 1.0 and a Myvi 1.5 ICON. the FC between both are similar at best and
the Myvi is slightly better some times, depending on payload, route, traffic conditions and way of driving.
If one can afford it, get a car with a larger engine. Maybe its just me as I am the type of driver who is
not concerned with fuel consumption at all.

Regarding the term "no replacement for displacement", lets just agree to disagree here.
We are all entitled to our own opinions for better or for worse.

No point debating about this for no mutual gain as this could escalate into a nasty argument.
I will consider this topic closed.

Have a nice day, bro.
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If you can, why don't you share FC on Both cars based on how much you refuel and etc. It will be much more accurate to check it.

Axia 33L while Myvi 40L. So if full tank, how far you can get out of this 2
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Feb 3 2023, 04:12 PM)
well, i know few owners get 20km/l with current gen Axia. In Fact if based on fuelly there is tons of owner averaging 15km/l and above . Newest Axia is even more fuel efficient than previous gen.

user posted image

example 1 of the hardcore 1.. was this real? who knows..
user posted image
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This 'hardcore one' is still below 19 km/l, and like anything else on fuelly you need to look at the data distribution for a good idea of how the real FC is. Can clearly see two peaks as I have mentioned, one at 15.5/16 and one at 17.5. Most cars have this pattern, where the lower peak corresponds to more mixed mode driving (city + highway) and the higher peak corresponds to primarily highway driving. Compare, for example, the Viva which has the same pattern with peaks at 13.5 km/l and roughly 16 km/l.

The reason to look at the distribution is because, as you said, 'was this real?'. Single outlier results, chance to be fake (or at least misttyped) is higher, that's why we look at the averages.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 3 2023, 02:31 PM)
nowdays we dont see fc from rpm. there are more influencing factor
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Yes, people just presumed bigger cc more fuel smile.gif

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