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TSredracer2004
post Feb 1 2023, 10:21 AM, updated 2y ago

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So after so much bickering in Dating Apps and real life experiences, I have come to 1 conclusion,

GIRLS AT ANY AGE GROUP WILL FOCUS MORE ON LOOKS AND IF NO LOOKS, THE GUY MUST BE LOADED.

And when I mean Looks, I mean the born good looking ones. Even if you not good looking but you buff up / gym up, it's not gonna work (especially at the 30s).

Why I said so above? A few girls told me directly even if I became buff up, my face still cannot so they may not date me (means won't la) and they also said that even if the guy isn't buff or slim but got good looks, even chubby all they can accept.

So it goes down to, what is left for people like me? Where do I find girls now?
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post Feb 1 2023, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Feb 1 2023, 10:28 AM)
got good looks mean being fashionable, even if you had no money you can package yourself so that the girl (presumably she's also hot and dress revealing), both of you can match or she THINKS you can be high achiever

nowadays everything is about marketing, but if you want long lasting result you have to work on many things and its gonna take unknown number of of time
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It works if I am aiming only for ONS in terms of marketing. But if want long term, I think much time is needed to fix things.
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post Feb 1 2023, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(ctys2012 @ Feb 1 2023, 10:46 AM)
sometimes its the timing of what they are going thru
if you are able to catch their timing , care enough, normal weekly dinner, care for their personal wellbeing, do not look despo...
slowly progress from there...

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Sounds right on paper but in the world we live in, that's a big lie.

I have friends who got a gf from this method, the girl just leaves him for another guy who is more loaded.
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post Feb 2 2023, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(magicforumer @ Feb 1 2023, 08:27 PM)
Ouch...Were the girls whom commented on you being ugly your dates? Being so direct?

Which part of your face do you think is the problem?

At early 40s like everyone, can expect some aging signs like forehead wrinkles and lines around your lower eyelids, which are easily corrected. Even if your face has left-right imbalance, it can still be fixed.

The unfixable ones are skull bone related disalignment, example one eye socket is positioned higher/lower than the other, or jaw malalignment problems like overbite/ underbite or nose deviation.

The ladies have a point i guess. Eveyone loves attractive faces, but the formula for attraction is more than just physical. You don't need to look attracrive but instead you can focus on getting a pleasant look, meaning fixing those that puts people off.

If you got some scars, there are ways to make the skin surface smoother.

If you don't have anything serious, can always try some makeup when you go out on dates. CMB got many ladies who are divorced, and they often don't mention their marital status.

By the way, I thought u had an LDR thing going on?
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The LDR somehow didn't work because of how the girl lead me on to believe it was doable but she didn't want to commit so yeah.

As for the looks wise, well let's just say that I don't look like KPop Boy Band members so I can't attract them good enough.

Positive or Negative vibes, we are looking at the first impression first. If first impression also cannot make it, then how do I continue to show I am good.

Some girls within my range of colleagues did say that for girls to look into my inner vibes and values, the looks must be passable too.

If looks also can't pass, they won't bother looking into your value. Why? Because no matter HOW NORMAL a girl looks, confirm got many guys SIMP for them creating a fake reality where they got lots and lots of choices.

For example, I know of a girl who I think looks very fairly normal BUT there are at least 5-6 guys waiting to shower with attention when needed.
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post Feb 2 2023, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Julie Ting @ Feb 2 2023, 08:34 AM)
You listen to girls from dating apps? If they are good then why are they still in the app?

Get some workouts to keep yourself looking strong and good. The girls will come.
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Also from range of ppl around me.
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post Feb 3 2023, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Feb 3 2023, 09:17 AM)
99.9% on looks. Loaded with money is useless unless you're a billionaire. Honest and loyal means nothing when you can't even attract with looks.

Money only works on sex workers.

I can only answer this from Chinese perspective. I heard the Malay world is more forgiving.
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I feel you are quite right. Many friends around me saying the same thing.

You got looks, you are at least (I AM SAYING AT LEAST) 50% ahead in the game.

Why? Because I know of a guy, the looks quite good but he no money. The gf willing to pay for his everything just to make sure she gets to keep him as a trophy bf. Many girls want these kind of trophy bf.
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post Feb 4 2023, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Feb 4 2023, 11:14 AM)
share my experience, to be frank, i rarely see gold digger in real life, maybe i dont mingle with people who drink.

And some girls that i friend with, they told me that, a good man as in treat gf good, can cook, spend time with partner etc. Yes, all these traits are things that most girls always say they want. But in the end, it is just added point.

The kind of points that can be added if you have a acceptable look, height and good humor.

I was enlightened that i know why i lost out in dating market. I can't even meet the minimum requirement of look and/or charm. Lol
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This is the kind of experience I am experiencing now.

Whether we can fulfill their emotional needs or whatever, it needs to go through looks first.

Some of my female colleagues and friends said, if they can't look past the looks, they won't even try to get to know the person cause they 'assume' (strong word) that they won't be attracted to the guy long term.
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post Feb 8 2023, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(sweet_pez @ Feb 7 2023, 11:38 AM)
Hahahahaha why compare yourself to this guy who makes you feel bad? "Many girls" is just your stereotype because of 1 case that you know. What about the other 99 couples that you know?

Ever heard of the saying that goes: the best investment you can make is in yourself? So invest in yourself.
What does this mean? Upskill yourself. A man who is knowledgeable or has a variety of skills is charming. This meaning reading books that'll benefit you/ enrolling in courses with things to learn etc. Self improvement is so crucial these days if you're looking for quality lifestyle. People who don't keep up will be left behind. So yeah while looks will probably get that person halfway somewhere but still, if you're looking for long term relationship, personality and the depth of a person's character still matters imo.

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Additional points <<since you were harping about looks>>

- Grooming: Decent haircut which don't even require high expenses. Shave (or not, depending on your preference) if it's neater for you.

- Clothes: Appear neat & tidy. Fashion didn't have to be expensive or overdoing it. When you have the extra budget (ie. from bonus), get yourself some decent top or pants. Even IGR/ Tik Tok has multiple fashion tips on the kind of matching clothes you can play around with.

- Physique: If you think you're overweight, try to reduce some weight so you'll feel better about yourself and gain some confidence.

Also, even if you think you don't look good - it may not be the case for some ladies out there. Perhaps 1 tip that can help... try to enhance your appearance by making sure your face is clear from blemishes/ acne etc. Go to the dermatologist if you have skin issues and get them rectified. The more confident you feel about yourself, the more attractive you'll appear. And seriously, who doesn't like a confident person? (well, don't be overconfident though or that may seem snobbish).

Now ask yourself how much effort you're willing to put in to look better. If you're going to keep using physical trait as an excuse, then you're doomed to fall back into this loop every time you fail to meet someone.
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Let's see, where do I start this. Now, in my age and aim I am looking at finding and maintaining a long-term relationship and not just a hit and run kind. So let me being very objective and analyse this:

1. Yes, we can do everything in the world to better ourselves but are we in the running against those MUCH MUCH WAY WAY BETTER OFF people?

2. In an easy rationing, almost every man in their 30s or 20s know how to do basic house chores. Maybe 7 out of 10 from them. So if I am part of the 7, what makes me stand out? Back to either looks or money, right? Impossible it's about good character all, I find those very not logical. If then say 4 out of the 7 has good character, how does the girl choose? Eeny meeny miny mo?

3. You said that I am looking at the wrong pool, so tell me, where do we find such a pool? And also, MANY MANY BUAYA out there also looking for this pool so again, what can make normal average joes like us stand out? Looks and money again right?

4. At the end, we have to remember that if we don't stand out from others, why would a girl choose us? Simple, just to settle most probably and what happens if another better one comes knocking? Say bye bye to us.

I am not being negative here but I am seeing too many examples of girls going off with guys who are better off (in terms of looks or money) even when they had a loving partner. Yes, I don't know their story but for some I do and it ain't pretty.


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post Feb 8 2023, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Feb 8 2023, 07:21 PM)
TS, traditional match making is one of the a possible solution. I just don't know why the current generation is so against it. Some ppl can compete in the competitive environment, some people just can't.

If you want to display your inner beauty, you need a lot of time exposure. A lot of time exposure means your potential candidate can only comes from the places you appear daily - like work places, your living community / neighbors , religious house, hobby club, etc. Anything outside of this, you will not get your time exposure &  you will not be able to display the inner beauty.
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I totally agree to this. That's why I said it's not possible to have girls look beyond our looks for the inner beauty from going socialising.
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post Jun 20 2024, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Jun 20 2024, 03:15 PM)
In this day and age where more men are sticking to the single path, I just wonder what motivates him.
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I am here and for me, my main drive is I just like to have someone to accompany me like real companionship. Many places don't welcome alone peeps like going for Korean BBQ buffet, min 2 pax and etc etc. So I want to have someone accompany me and do stuffs together.
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Jun 20 2024, 05:53 PM)
If that’s your primary concern then a friend would serve your purposes just fine without the baggage.
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A friend can't be a person to share feelings, stuffs with each other everyday. If I had a female friend who I can share everything with and she shares with me everything, that's gonna go somewhere else.
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QUOTE(somewhataut @ Jul 4 2024, 09:40 AM)
What was the fuss about civic being a chick magnet, I simply opted an alternative around the same price point

I look around mostly driving locals or Toyota bios, 140k=2x Toyota bios, it is well above average
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You forgot 1 little thing, your car is a SUV and not the sporty looking suave car that chics dig. I drive an Aruz, an SUV and many chinese chics call my call ugly. They said the value is important but the looks of it lagi important.

Anyways, for 3 weeks now I have been officially dating my new gf so I am happy.
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post Jul 22 2024, 08:07 PM

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For all the posters, thanks so much. Yeah, found her from CMB and we are quite in sync with one another. Lucky I didn't give up on the apps.
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post Jul 30 2024, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 29 2024, 09:47 AM)
how long have you used the app before you found her?
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Trust me, it's 2 years+.
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 1 2024, 04:46 PM)
To achieve a balance is the best.

But hard to do.
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I believe there isn't much balance we can achieve here. Here's how I look at it:

You can spend 20 hrs of your time to work and earn money say 5 figures a month and you don't have time for yourself so you end up looking old, haggard and crapped out OR
You can spend 8 hrs of your time to work and earn money say 4 figures a month and you spend the rest going gym, sleep, healthy routines etc and you will look much better than the former.

BUT

Girls will complain the FIRST guy doesn't look good while complaining SECOND guy doesn't have enough money (if she is a damn gold digger).

I'd say, finding someone who really appreciates small things you do for her is of utmost important. If you see those entitled ones or those never be satisfied by what you can give ones, should better run fast away from them.
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QUOTE(MCBFUHO @ Aug 5 2024, 09:59 AM)
I found mine is the most awkward place. Still ongoing and seem quite happy to date. Not sure if gonna lasts.

My point is anything anywhere is possible just gotta keep trying and not give up
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Totally agree on this. I still feel it's the art of not giving up.
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QUOTE(MCBFUHO @ Aug 6 2024, 11:58 AM)
So far I tried sugar dating and it works for me la. Somewhat I spend less on sugar baby than my ex gf with less headache but same benefit. Companionship, intimacy, love, etc. But no jealousy, overly attached, commitment.

Not sure if I am delusional or what but im happy in my dreams for now.
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Hmm, how long term will it be if this continues?
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post Aug 7 2024, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(MCBFUHO @ Aug 6 2024, 04:51 PM)
For me right now, she is no different from GF. I give my gf allowances, buy her stuff, bring her out etc. Even if after married I still need to provide for her as wife. Right now is the same without being official. No need to worry about divorce issue.

On top of that I believe all guys (above 30) will have issues with infidelity. I somewhat have the license to do so as long as I take care of hygiene and safety (for myself and others la).

My issue is the emotional attachment. Right now is still fresh and I can take off at anytime, should I invest emotions. Or just change when I get bored?

Should I take her like my gf or just subscription service?
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Well, my question on this is will you be able to invest emotionally in this since you said both of you are free to find whoever else. Which means, she maybe having weird flings outside and you have your own flings so will you be able to emotionally commit to a lady who is flinging outside?
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QUOTE(MCBFUHO @ Aug 7 2024, 04:41 PM)
Right now our agreement is exclusive SD SB, so far im going around still. not sure about her, choosing to trust her though. Like bf gf seldom check and assume she is loyal kind
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Well I agree SD SB type but if you want to invest emotionally later on, what would you perceive this matter to be? Will you want her to be your exclusive?
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post Aug 9 2024, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(MCBFUHO @ Aug 9 2024, 01:52 PM)
I wish for her to be exclusive, without a doubt sometimes when she dont reply me I get edgy a little which is not healthy. But I am matured enough to control my emotions. Somewhat by replying this way I know I have unconsciously fell for her a bit
How was your experience, do you miss the time with her etc? How much were u giving her
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Well, sorry to hear that but you might be at the losing end if she really isn't exclusive to you AND if you wanna start like "I wanna date you for real", she might say no.

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