Forgive my ignorance, but what is local or international flavor?

Segambut/MK is a bit overrated tbh. When most of your neighbours are expats, the real decent families are staying in Seputeh and Kepong

yea surveyed some, mostly ranged from 1.2m to 1.6m, considering lotsa ID need to be done, since majority are very old, is very tiring even to think about it. and the cash flow simply cant do that for now. But we still eyeing that area, hopefully can salvage desperate owner willing to letgo at low market price.

Agreed. Especially considering on getting such an overrated place like MK. By the looks of it, MK properties are selling at absolute future price now, does not look very promising for capital gains or even cash flow. If TS is "really had enough with jam", just try and rent a place in MK and see if it's gone or not 😂

Few examples are, Changkat View, Sri Putramas and Lanai Kiara

Also adding some points of view after viewing cendana, ayuria, and kiaraville. Seni i not gonna include here lar, cannot compare 

1. Cendana: many units selling for those facing construction. Is quite low density I felt, many angmo like there. I like the walkway between 2 blocks, the KOI pond feel very fengshui lar, I like that a lot. Pool facing units very peaceful, layout is not to our liking, development is a bit aged, but still well maintained. No direct access to car park from unit itself, there are pros and cons for this, least convenient. The whole environment have a bit of shangri la resort feel, guess that's why i saw lotsa angmo there.

2. Ayuria: The facility, when my son grown up, sure he will like it. The pool is like afamosa like that. For the units, it's very windy for higher floor area. Layout wise for units less than 2002sqf is a no no for me, die die also want to squeeze in bathtub in the master bathroom making it feel very cramp. 2002sqf is not bad. But the hallway each floor is very old and dark. Dont like that kinda of feeling when I come back home. Kiaraville so far have the best hallway among these few.

3. Kiaraville again: It's almost a go to for us, either Seni or Kiaraville for now. Kiaraville mostly are good, convenient, good security, car park need to walk a bit to tower lobby but acceptable. not lotsa units/floor. Layout preference will be
a. 2500 sqf 
b. 1900 sqf
c  1800 sqf

2500sqf one, best layout so far, even better than Seni 2396sqf. Eyed an unit, asking for 1.7m, move in condition, I think the price is too high, because I just viewed a Seni 2396sqf low rise, quite good deal RM1.7m can nego, although only 3+1 rooms, but it's Seni right!
To sum up, UTD we only consider Seni or Kiaraville.
1. Seni 2396sqf 3+1 rooms VS Kiaraville 2500sqf 4+1 rooms; both asking 1.7m
2. Buy Kiaraville 1900sqf & 1800sqf VS Rent Kiaraville 1900sqf & 1800sqf 1-2 years, then buy Seni 2900sqf 
bros advice?

Since it is for own stay, I think you have done enough research to decide what is best for you. On the other hand, i have a feeling this will not be your last home. For future disposition or rentability, i think Seni 2396sqf

Sure bro, it's gonna take a while, gonna sell off current house, at least till we signed SPA for selling, only we will go for offering. 

Haha! Yea man! Luckily we realized we are in rabbit hole now. You mentioned lotsa time not to stretch, I will stamp that in mind. Anyway is very true lar, getting least into seni ady recently, we don’t want to extend to there most likely.

Sticking back to our purchase objective: a good value condo in strategic location with reasonable larger size and healthy community.

You wasted agent time , coz if can’t sell your house or wait for the Snp to sign you can’t buy it . Not easy to sell at all . And you’re not ready .once sold , only start to see . But not now at all . You are not ready yet . And if you’re ready , your financial is not ready yet coz you need sell only you can make this purchase … too soon ma fren

My friend, is really sap sap water for me, i tolerate the jam from kl to cyber, can you imagine? hahaha
thanks for the tips! definitely i gonna use that, matter of fact i did using it 

Only set back for an old landed is the neighborhood will be your neighbors. Hopefully it’s not too run down or vacant. For older areas like gasing or SS3, bungalows have also been converted to nursing homes. Security will also be an issue, especially if your unit stands out vs the rest

I am not in a rush to move during this first 3 years as my baby growing up in current PJ landed house with the advantage of ample indoor space for him to move and play.  When he reach the age of 4-5 will be great time to move to next phase where pre-school starts and need to connect the neighbourhood with ease. 

We always strife to live an efficient life and do not like to spent too much time maintaining the house (ask any landed house owner from roof to the garden how much time needed to take care, I also like the idea of our house is to serve us not the other way around) and in a traffic to schools, to work and running errands.  So close walking proximity to schools and amenities become very important. This is the kind of pedestrian-friendly urban lilfestyle my non-Malaysian wife used to enjoy, and in Malaysia you can hardly find a neighborhood build with pedestrian in mind, with the exception of MK and DPC  

Since shortlisted into MK, been taking my time visiting some old and new projects with the likes of R22, Astrea, Prag, Allevia, Minh, Sunway Mont, Pantamont, Bon, Fiddlewoodz, etc. The subsale prices (for my shortlisted units) is standing strong & high even in pandemic, it makes the entire subsale deal less attractive and I do believe everything come with lifecycle especially condo, it makes me more inclined to go for new unit with all factors measured, we then chosen Allevia with these plus points:

1. Walking distance to schools, groceries and amenities 
2. Fenced and well maintained landscaped pedestrian walkway in Jalan Kiara 4
3. Efficient rectangular layout that maximize spaces (hate the idea of paying huge maintenance for spaces I don't use), like the layout split "activity zone" and "resting zone" distinctively 
4. Love the 22ft wide living room that allow great family bounding
5. Besides master room, every other room is equally big to accommodate 12ft build-in wardrobes plus a study desk with ease
6. Bungalow structure, all four walls not connecting to neighbour giving peace of mind, great privacy and minimal disturbance
7. Going for bukit kiara trail without driving!
8. MRT 3 coming to MK after 2028!

There's no such thing as a perfect property that can match every requirement that I listed in the beginning, however I believe I found a place that can serve my family well with great balance that we set to achieve.  Happy hunting bro

hahaha sad to say after all there years my wife moved to Malaysia she still cannot find accustomed to local food, to say the least about bak kut teh    as a Malaysian I failed to convert her, so moving into MK will suits her more definitely, looking forward for happy wife happy life     

R22 strategic location is unparalleled, one can only admire as of now as the price can only continue to rise.  Unfortunately I was obsessed with landed house in the early years and missed the opportunity to own this jewel at the launching period

Some R22 ahh! Bro! whole floor ahh?    Sedekah sell me 1 unit lower than market please... 

Anyway, R22 i haven't view, good ahh?

The days of investing and flipping for gain is over. Now it’s pure rental for long term passive income and own stay.

So buy 2…1 for own stay, one to get rental

Ingredients to bring back the flipping game:

Easy money: It will be back. Illogical to tell politician not to break the piggy bank to win vote.

Accommodating policy: Singapore story said accommodating policy is only a good to have.

Reducing supply: KL key areas will run out of land eventually.

High economic growth: this is the ingredient that is hard to find. So far Anwar's gov policy is making sense. Hope and pray. But there is a ingredient as substitute, I have a feeling certain atas area such as Mont Kiara and DPC residents' income growth dun correlate with local economy growth as they are earning overseas income.