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post Jan 26 2023, 01:06 PM, updated 3y ago

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iphone don't have? android finally win this time? I saw someone in my condo using android phones to tap. Iphones like don't have.

has anyone successfully done this on their iphones? i hate carrying keycards.
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:07 PM

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u sure they were using their phone to tap but not a small pocket with card attached to the back of the phone?

(been doing that since 5 years ago.. lrt card / access card)
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:09 PM

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It's an offence to clone cards without authorization. Your condo management will fine you and make a police report.
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:10 PM

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B40 condo use card
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 26 2023, 01:10 PM)
B40 condo use card
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Brader, you're trying to hard. Now everyone knows you're a B40.
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 26 2023, 01:10 PM)
B40 condo use card
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lousy condo ma.. haven't been to a condo that uses biometric verification
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:29 PM

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post Jan 26 2023, 01:30 PM

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buy card clone at shopee.

then you can do side hustle cloning cards
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jan 26 2023, 01:09 PM)
It's an offence to clone cards without authorization. Your condo management will fine you and make a police report.
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how can they detect that its a cloned card ?
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Jan 26 2023, 01:07 PM)
u sure they were using their phone to tap but not a small pocket with card attached to the back of the phone?

(been doing that since 5 years ago.. lrt card / access card)
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MR DIY RM10 cases don't have a pocket like that. too cheapskate to buy other more expensive cases. isn't it better to use it like appe pay? provided if it's even possible.. otherwise that's a workable alternative

QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jan 26 2023, 01:09 PM)
It's an offence to clone cards without authorization. Your condo management will fine you and make a police report.
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i didn't read the T&C.. i mean it's an abuse of their term(s) but it's victimless. I wonder how to do it on my iphone
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 26 2023, 02:10 PM)
B40 condo use card
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Rich stay in bungalow not condo
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(eds2 @ Jan 26 2023, 01:30 PM)
buy card clone at shopee.

then you can do side hustle cloning cards
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better still, bribe the cleaner and borrow their card for a while, can access ALL AREA ( which some condo do, only allow you to enter your own block )
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jan 26 2023, 01:31 PM)
Rich stay in bungalow not condo
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bungalow elite taman also masuk now use access card lah

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jan 26 2023, 01:38 PM
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:40 PM

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so nice condo got access card

my flat dont even have security
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 26 2023, 02:38 PM)
bungalow elite taman also masuk now use access card lah
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You gila ya ? go own house need to use access card !
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jan 26 2023, 01:43 PM)
You gila ya ? go own house need to use access card !
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Abuden? Every time go out my 2 stage housing area need to wave hand or wait the security to open boomgate meh tiu

Not everyone stays in a run down landed area that allows google maps street view to simply masuk 1 ok
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jan 26 2023, 01:43 PM)
You gila ya ? go own house need to use access card !
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you need to go out often lah bang

QUOTE(TheOnly @ Jan 26 2023, 01:45 PM)
Abuden? Every time go out my 2 stage housing area need to wave hand or wait the security to open boomgate meh tiu

Not everyone stays in a run down landed area that allows google maps street view to simply masuk 1 ok
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true that
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Jan 26 2023, 02:45 PM)
Abuden? Every time go out my 2 stage housing area need to wave hand or wait the security to open boomgate meh tiu

Not everyone stays in a run down landed area that allows google maps street view to simply masuk 1 ok
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That is not go into your house. That is car masuk card.

Btw

RFID tag dah have since 2017

You housing b40 never upgrade ?

This post has been edited by tikaram: Jan 26 2023, 01:50 PM
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:51 PM

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Only china phone can only
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jan 26 2023, 01:43 PM)
You gila ya ? go own house need to use access card !
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alot of housing area doing that.
my house area already trying to do (already about 2 years the papan tanda notification) but haven't implement yet.
My fren house (T5 house area) damm mah fan
kena 2 time security check and his access card kena twice scan
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 26 2023, 02:51 PM)
alot of housing area doing that.
my house area already trying to do (already about 2 years the papan tanda notification) but haven't implement yet.
My fren house (T5 house area) damm mah fan
kena 2 time security check and his access card kena twice scan
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That is car entry card not access card la

You car masuk . After that you use acres card go your house ka

Comprehensive problem
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Jan 26 2023, 01:45 PM)
Abuden? Every time go out my 2 stage housing area need to wave hand or wait the security to open boomgate meh tiu

Not everyone stays in a run down landed area that allows google maps street view to simply masuk 1 ok
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Erm, most decent G&G housing estate use RFID already, card is old school.
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(tahfeikei @ Jan 26 2023, 01:31 PM)
how can they detect that its a cloned card ?
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I think new card got another set of number that copier cannot copy hence that how they know.
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Jan 26 2023, 01:45 PM)
Abuden? Every time go out my 2 stage housing area need to wave hand or wait the security to open boomgate meh tiu

Not everyone stays in a run down landed area that allows google maps street view to simply masuk 1 ok
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Next AGM ask them upgrade to OCR camera system, no longer need card, everything is based on optical camera.

Like those shopping mall systems, don’t need card or ticket.

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post Jan 26 2023, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Jan 26 2023, 01:55 PM)
Next AGM ask them upgrade to OCR camera system, no longer need card, everything is based on optical camera.
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Now this is a decent reply. A good “upgrade”, but one fault is my housing area have families with fancy cars that has no plate stickers on their very angled front bodykits, and multiple household already rejected this idea due to the amount of “fancy car simply letak plate & too small single digit cars”, after the vendor gave a presentation of what can be read and what cannot like yearsss ago.

Maybe with a better more updated vendor this could be a non issue, but it not even a concern to me as I don’t even need to wind down or take anything out to pass through the carded boomgate.

Not like others so stupid to think when ppl say “card” it’s those close proximity touch card, of course when ppl say card access means it’s rfid card la durrr in 2023 even cheapass condo already using rfid card that don’t need to wind down window.

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post Jan 26 2023, 02:09 PM

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I've never done it b4, but maybe this article can help u

https://www.getkisi.com/blog/how-to-copy-ac...rds-and-keyfobs
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post Jan 26 2023, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Jan 26 2023, 02:09 PM)
I've never done it b4, but maybe this article can help u

https://www.getkisi.com/blog/how-to-copy-ac...rds-and-keyfobs
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nice but only works for android.
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post Jan 26 2023, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Jan 26 2023, 02:03 PM)
Now this is a decent reply. A good “upgrade”, but one fault is my housing area have families with fancy cars that has no plate stickers on their very angled front bodykits, and multiple household already rejected this idea due to the amount of “fancy car simply letak plate & too small single digit cars”, after the vendor gave a presentation of what can be read and what cannot like yearsss ago.

Maybe with a better more updated vendor this could be a non issue, but it not even a concern to me as I don’t even need to wind down or take anything out to pass through the carded boomgate.

Not like others so stupid to think when ppl say “card” it’s those close proximity touch card, of course when ppl say card access means it’s rfid card la durrr in 2023 even cheapass condo already using rfid card that don’t need to wind down window.
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umm... my cheapass condo is still using HID card. not even contactless. must stick on the sensor to work.

this is SG so carpark we use the car's internal card reader unit like elsewhere in SG. but even after you get into the carpark, still need keycard to unlock the door to enter the building
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post Jan 26 2023, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Jan 26 2023, 01:55 PM)
Next AGM ask them upgrade to OCR camera system, no longer need card, everything is based on optical camera.

Like those shopping mall systems, don’t need card or ticket.
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Inb4 someone clone your car no plate 😁
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jan 26 2023, 01:06 PM)
iphone don't have? android finally win this time? I saw someone in my condo using android phones to tap. Iphones like don't have.

has anyone successfully done this on their iphones? i hate carrying keycards.
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bro. i spent the past 2 hours researching about cloning nfc cards to phones because of your post. i have downloaded and tried almost 10 apps.
i found out that only chinese phones using chinese region ROMs have the functionality to clone NFC cards to the phone. everywhere else and all non-china phones dont have this functionality for security reasons.

the easiest to use are Huawei phones because the capability is built into the huawei wallet app. you can just add "key" to the wallet and it works.

thanks for wasting my time, TS.
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post Jan 26 2023, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 26 2023, 01:10 PM)
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if my fingerprint spoil due to allergy then how?
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Jan 26 2023, 03:28 PM)
if my fingerprint spoil due to allergy then how?
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post Jan 26 2023, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ashadiya @ Jan 26 2023, 02:26 PM)
Inb4 someone clone your car no plate 😁
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got take into account car color & car body type also.
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jan 26 2023, 01:09 PM)
It's an offence to clone cards without authorization. Your condo management will fine you and make a police report.
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they had themself to blame for it.
extra card usually sells for 50-100 depending on housing area.
padahalnya the cost is <50 cents when they buy cards in bulk.

management shud sell it cheaper, like RM10, & comes wit more variety, ie keyfob.
like this people will buy cuz cheaper & easier than cloning.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 26 2023, 01:10 PM)
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TOPKEK, tell me which condo uses fp to gain entry to the condo
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Many Android pong sold in Malaysia have the NFC removed to reduce cost.
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jan 26 2023, 04:23 PM)
TOPKEK, tell me which condo uses fp to gain entry to the condo
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dun wan to tell you
later you found out who i am
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Jan 26 2023, 04:21 PM)
they had themself to blame for it.
extra card usually sells for 50-100 depending on housing area.
padahalnya the cost is <50 cents when they buy cards in bulk.

management shud sell it cheaper, like RM10, & comes wit more variety, ie keyfob.
like this people will buy cuz cheaper & easier than cloning.
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It has never been the price to buy the cards la silly. Management block their cards because never pay maintainence. Thats why they duplicate cards
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Jan 26 2023, 03:26 PM)
bro. i spent the past 2 hours researching about cloning nfc cards to phones because of your post. i have downloaded and tried almost 10 apps.
i found out that only chinese phones using chinese region ROMs have the functionality to clone NFC cards to the phone. everywhere else and all non-china phones dont have this functionality for security reasons.

the easiest to use are Huawei phones because the capability is built into the huawei wallet app. you can just add "key" to the wallet and it works.

thanks for wasting my time, TS.
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lololol! thanks. Well, I also researched but could not find a solution for iphones. The guy that I saw using his phone to tap was a China Chinese and I didn't ask him what phone he was using but I know it's an android. So I guess he knows how to make it work on his phone but don't know for iphone. Could be a Chinese phone.
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 26 2023, 04:25 PM)
dun wan to tell you
later you found out who i am
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I staying 2m condo also never use fingerprint. You prolly having your imaginary condo in ur head
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Jan 26 2023, 03:28 PM)
if my fingerprint spoil due to allergy then how?
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then the bangala security need to perform fullbody and cavity search on you , then only help you to open your house door as they have mastakey to your house.

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It's called Home Kit on iDevices.

If your smart lock got Home Kit support then can lo.

Home security 101, go get your facts right first before you open thread la.
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jan 26 2023, 04:25 PM)
It has never been the price to buy the cards la silly. Management block their cards because never pay maintainence. Thats why they duplicate cards
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Duplicate card carries same serial woh. If the original card serial was blocked then duplicated card also auto blocked.
Unless they clone from another not blocked card.

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Jan 26 2023, 04:21 PM)
they had themself to blame for it.
extra card usually sells for 50-100 depending on housing area.
padahalnya the cost is <50 cents when they buy cards in bulk.

management shud sell it cheaper, like RM10, & comes wit more variety, ie keyfob.
like this people will buy cuz cheaper & easier than cloning.
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Exactly. My condo is almost RM170 per card... but having an extra card itself does not solve the problem cos I wanted convenience of using my phone to gain entry.
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jan 26 2023, 04:29 PM)
Exactly. My condo is almost RM170 per card... but having an extra card itself does not solve the problem cos I wanted convenience of using my phone to gain entry.
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if yo lost your phone?


maybe you can buy a cheap china phone and use that phone only for entre?

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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jan 26 2023, 04:25 PM)
It has never been the price to buy the cards la silly. Management block their cards because never pay maintainence. Thats why they duplicate cards
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a lot of people use your statement as defense, but it dont make no sense.
how does selling it expensive encourages people to pay maintenance fees?
u sell at 1k per card also still those non payers will clone cards, what different it makes for them?
greedy management only profiteering from those who genuinely wants extra card for family members.

when u buy extra card, make it that only unit owner with no outstanding can buy. that way u can register & tie the extra card to that unit.
if that unit owe fees, block all the cards tied to that unit.
it's not like, i dint pay management fees, card kena block, pay RM10 to buy new functioning card.
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Jan 26 2023, 04:25 PM)
It has never been the price to buy the cards la silly. Management block their cards because never pay maintainence. Thats why they duplicate cards
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if u duplicate blocked card, whats the point?
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 26 2023, 04:43 PM)
if u duplicate blocked card, whats the point?
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Lol nobody ask u go duplicate blocked cards. Alot property agents selling duplicate cards from other units .

Most of the ppl who buy are tenants of the unit which the owner never pay maintenance so the tenants suffer. Seen so many cases already. The owner also smart. Rent below market price. So the tenant will think twice about moving out , especially those condo with high demand.

Some owners have outstanding of few thousands to 100k also i have seen


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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 26 2023, 04:05 PM)
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QUOTE(tolongking @ Jan 26 2023, 01:06 PM)
iphone don't have? android finally win this time? I saw someone in my condo using android phones to tap. Iphones like don't have.

has anyone successfully done this on their iphones? i hate carrying keycards.
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go copy it to a sticker and stick it to the back of your phone or phone case
https://shopee.com.my/-ErudentM-125KHz-T557...ff-60f744c8eceb

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Jan 26 2023, 04:33 PM)
if yo lost your phone?
maybe you can buy a cheap china phone and use that phone only for entre?
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Genius… I rather just carry the card if I have to carry another china phone just for the door entrance

 

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