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5w30 or 5w40 for my 10 year old Vios?
5w30 or 5w40 for my 10 year old Vios?
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Jan 15 2023, 10:36 AM, updated 3y ago
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Jan 15 2023, 10:36 AM
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0w-20 fully synthetic better
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Jan 15 2023, 10:38 AM
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5w30 better
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Jan 15 2023, 10:39 AM
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Whatever your manual book recommended
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Jan 15 2023, 10:42 AM
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Jan 15 2023, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jan 15 2023, 10:42 AM) Tinner oil improves performance and FC slightly... But not sure with 1nzfe is designed for 20wt oil.Oh found it, 20wt oil is suitable. For 10yrs old engine, you have to monitor the oil consumption. If 20wt oil resulting in excessive oil loss, you have to use 30wt. This post has been edited by bengm2019: Jan 15 2023, 10:48 AM |
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40 if a lot of high RPM driving. 30 for regular use.
20 is thin like piss. And MY weather makes it worse. RIP engine longevity. |
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Jan 15 2023, 10:47 AM
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buang old vios get new one owai JeremyLord liked this post
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Jan 15 2023, 10:47 AM
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Jan 15 2023, 10:48 AM
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dun be pussy, just go 0w 40 full synthetic je.
real man dont care what oil use, if problem just change car until good je like normal /ktard |
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ayam using 5w30 kaito after pm kaito on shopee.
initially plan to use 5w40 . but the sifu in fast and furious section recommend 5w30 same as the info i got from the kaito shopee. |
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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jan 15 2023, 10:45 AM) Tinner oil improves performance and FC slightly... But not sure with 1nzfe is designed for 20wt oil. Oh found it, 20wt oil is suitable. For 10yrs old engine, you have to monitor the oil consumption. If 20wt oil resulting in excessive oil loss, you have to use 30wt. QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jan 15 2023, 10:45 AM) 40 if a lot of high RPM driving. 30 for regular use. Sifu? Is this good or not?20 is thin like piss. And MY weather makes it worse. RIP engine longevity. https://shopee.com.my/-2022-API-SP-MIZU-5W3...9e-71a32e1a2cb1 |
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jan 15 2023, 10:45 AM) 40 if a lot of high RPM driving. 30 for regular use. Wrong. If the engine is designed for 20wt oil, you use 20wt.20 is thin like piss. And MY weather makes it worse. RIP engine longevity. bigmac999 liked this post
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Jan 15 2023, 10:49 AM
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Vios minimum is 30W. If frequency of driving high speed, take 40w for extra protection.
30w will give you more engine noise compared to 40w. |
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Jan 15 2023, 10:50 AM
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If need to ask
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jan 15 2023, 10:49 AM) Nope... Won't even bother.... |
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QUOTE(ixaRA @ Jan 15 2023, 10:50 AM) It's just another Malaysia brand oil.... ixaRA liked this post
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Jan 15 2023, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(ixaRA @ Jan 15 2023, 10:50 AM) so far so good la...smooth engine start.btw my vios is around 15 yo liao. i bought it due to good review too .as long as the brand come with the API certification . i think should be fine. i upgraded my plug to denso iridium plug too. what i havent done is to pour in a bottle of engine cleaning oil in my fuel tank. ixaRA liked this post
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Jan 15 2023, 10:53 AM
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It you want good and cheap oil, get penzoil.
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Engine oil so cheap still wanna skimp...Janganlah...
Just get Petronas Syntium...or the Shell Helix Ultra at Tesco. |
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Jan 15 2023, 10:58 AM
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shd go min w30 , thick oil will protect old engine . Go Giant or tesco buy shell w30 or w40 fully syn RM100 - RM120 only
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Jan 15 2023, 10:59 AM
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If 5w30 is semi synthetic, just go for 5w40 full synthetic.
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QUOTE(teckyuan @ Jan 15 2023, 10:53 AM) so far so good la...smooth engine start. you say good then i think i will trybtw my vios is around 15 yo liao. i bought it due to good review too .as long as the brand come with the API certification . i think should be fine. i upgraded my plug to denso iridium plug too. what i havent done is to pour in a bottle of engine cleaning oil in my fuel tank. QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jan 15 2023, 10:53 AM) where got cheap, penzoil sumoreQUOTE(Juggerballz @ Jan 15 2023, 10:55 AM) Engine oil so cheap still wanna skimp...Janganlah... when is the promo and how much?Just get Petronas Syntium...or the Shell Helix Ultra at Tesco. |
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SHU 5-30 can liao. Janji ori
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Jan 15 2023, 11:08 AM
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5w040 , i used it for my over 10years car
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Jan 15 2023, 11:10 AM
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Jan 15 2023, 11:24 AM
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Any oil will do. Just follow what's being written in your user manual. Don't be shy to read.
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Jan 15 2023, 11:24 AM
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Follow back same type engine oil can already. Never seen VIOS have white smoke before.
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Aiya vios engine so reliable no matter what oil u put no problem la
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Jan 15 2023, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jan 15 2023, 11:06 AM) Mileage doesn't matter... More important is engine oil consumption. MR_alien liked this post
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10 year old je.. go with what stated in owner manual/service manual and come back and ask again after 20 years..
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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jan 15 2023, 11:26 AM) No. White smoke is worn pistons. NA almost never can get damaged head gaskets unless the engine was overheated badly from faulty cooking systems. Unlike turbo engines where the gaskets are constantly exposed to very high pressures. |
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if you car has no issue and no leaking
stick to what u have been using DO NOT, i repeat DO NOT go for lighter oil just because you wanna save fuel |
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jan 15 2023, 11:39 AM) No. White smoke is worn pistons. NA almost never can get damaged head gaskets unless the engine was overheated badly from faulty cooking systems. Unlike turbo engines where the gaskets are constantly exposed to very high pressures. That one is light bluish or greyish smoke. Most pple mistaken it for white. Most engines will hardly have smoke even when it's worn. It's just an increase in EO. |
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Whichever more expensive
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 15 2023, 11:28 AM) nosome people believe that and it cost them HARD some people even more stupid, they think vios engine so reliable, they can skip service and then the catastrophic happen dickybird liked this post
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200k+ mileage, use 5w40 fully synthetic
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What is the meaning of the w and the numbers? Is there a general reference of how much mileage need to use what number?
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Ayam 9 old saga flx using 0w-30...
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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 15 2023, 12:12 PM) What is the meaning of the w and the numbers? Is there a general reference of how much mileage need to use what number? https://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-states...-explained.html |
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just buy toyota full synthetic for vios, the service center know which oil is ngam for your vios model, then get the original oil filter too. Changing those both plus with good condition air filter, can last 10000km or 6 months.
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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jan 15 2023, 12:07 PM) The problem with thicker oil is fuel consumption and power loss. if TS travels alot, 5% increase in FC can be quite a lot. yes..this is true...i was using 10w40 Semi syn before changing to 5w30 Full syn because i simply cant find any engine oil on the shelf during cny last year.suffer power loss and high fuel consumption. This post has been edited by teckyuan: Jan 15 2023, 12:23 PM |
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5w30 la. Recommended Viscosity.
U put 0w20 too thin. Can't even lubricant ur engine. Just like no oil in engine. U put 5/10/15w 40 too thick. Your engine oil pump can rosak. Ur engine oil pump designed to pump 5w30. Tapi u pour 5w40 too thick. Cannot tahan. If ur oil pump got sumbat worst. Anything engine jam. |
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Vios is known to have engine oil consumption issue when the engine gets old..So 5w40 is recommended for your Vios.
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Why everyone here against the 0w20? It's still fully synthetic engine, protect the engine again heat, lubricate etc
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get the 5w40 for better protection
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Increase in fuel consumption when using 'thicker' oil means oil is too cold. Maybe your thermostat rosak or you don't really drive for a long stretch of time everytime you start your car
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 15 2023, 01:38 PM) Why everyone here against the 0w20? It's still fully synthetic engine, protect the engine again heat, lubricate etc 0W20 is too light if your oil system is engine speed dependent. Light oil runs down to the sump quicker, so not "sticking" to the moving parts longer. When you rev high, more oil volume can circulate to counter this. But when you are just cruising along a low rpm, your parts tend to run dry.If you are using dry sump, then it eliminates that problem. Because your oil flow are set at a minimum volume. |
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jan 15 2023, 12:07 PM) 10W.. cukup-la! Not high performance engine. Although some idiots fill up with 0W for their berukdua engines. bruhwe live in malaysia we don't look at the number before W...that's "W"inter rating we look at the back number for it's viscosity only....u can fill 0W-30 also can if this oil exist |
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w30 la..follow owners manual...duhh...
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QUOTE(Max @ Jan 15 2023, 02:03 PM) QUOTE(MookKai @ Jan 15 2023, 02:07 PM) 0W20 is too light if your oil system is engine speed dependent. Light oil runs down to the sump quicker, so not "sticking" to the moving parts longer. When you rev high, more oil volume can circulate to counter this. But when you are just cruising along a low rpm, your parts tend to run dry. my idea, TS should repair the source of leak first, usually the Valve cover gasket, norm after high mileage. if the manual said 0w20 is one of recommendation, I will suggest it. Best FC, engine can get light feeling power etc.If you are using dry sump, then it eliminates that problem. Because your oil flow are set at a minimum volume. |
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Shell helix hx7 semi syn high mileage engine oil.
Try 5w30 1st. If engine oil no loss within 5,000km then ok. If got loss then try use 5w40. Usually shell helix hx7 can last 7,000km-8,000km. At 5,000km the oil still look clear and slightly new, not black yet. |
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Is not confuse, I don't discriminate... Whatever race also drink the same water, breathe the same air. Got what so atas ? [/quot Lol Are you lining up to buy American motors then? Japanese while not perfect are more reliable. And either ts can persist by feeding his engine more oil or get it rebuilt. |
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jan 15 2023, 11:31 AM) if u used 5w40 still consuming EOu need to go even higher ..or ..overhaul lower down to 5w30 will made your consumption even faster/higher This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Jan 15 2023, 06:35 PM |
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Jan 15 2023, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 15 2023, 01:38 PM) Why everyone here against the 0w20? It's still fully synthetic engine, protect the engine again heat, lubricate etc not really against ..just saying should follow manual book..there are some smart guy who pouring 0w20 into super old engine (just because some guy saying it will improve FC) |
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[quote=dickybird,Jan 15 2023, 06:16 PM]
[quote=boonwuilow,Jan 15 2023, 06:06 PM] Is not confuse, I don't discriminate... Whatever race also drink the same water, breathe the same air. Got what so atas ? [/quot Lol Are you lining up to buy American motors then? Japanese while not perfect are more reliable. And either ts can persist by feeding his engine more oil or get it rebuilt. [/quote] MOPAR or NO car ![]() Depends on how a person view it, reliability is a term used by people who can't afford to maintain their car. |
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jan 15 2023, 06:34 PM) if u used 5w40 still consuming EO depend lol, few of the bengkel mechanic that i talk said that repair might do more harm than good, the machanic also said that if the engine is still running well(not overheatingl, but the problem is minor leak, better to just live with the leak, but need to frequent check the oil level of courseu need to go even higher ..or ..overhaul lower down to 5w30 will made your consumption even faster/higher also repair doesnt mean 100% will fix the leak problem too. people keep mention must follow manufacturer recommendation for engine oil, this only feasible if the engine dont have any issue. but once got issue, is different case already. anyway the main cause of preventable engine failure is either the owner fails to do service on time or engine oil level is too low, not because of mismatch in engine oil viscocity. yes engine dont work optimally with high viscocity oil, but at least some protection is better than no protection. |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 15 2023, 02:55 PM) my idea, TS should repair the source of leak first, usually the Valve cover gasket, norm after high mileage. if the manual said 0w20 is one of recommendation, I will suggest it. Best FC, engine can get light feeling power etc. Ts engine that time no w20 spec. Most probably w30, the lightest at that time. |
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I using 5w40 for my 11 year old car.
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jan 15 2023, 06:17 PM) Every engine is the same when it ages. Piston ring gets worn out, valve seals cracks, injector o-rings harden, valve cover gasket cracks and leaks. These are all cheap fix rather than swapping a halfcut engine.Overhaul costs the same as getting halfcut, but you're assured of the fix you're getting. While halfcut is still another gamble. You wouldn't know if you're getting a good engine unless the workshop is reliable. I gotten my halfcut engine that's literally <50k mileage. Produces more hrsprs than factory claimed. |
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So ts end up use what?
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Ayam using 0w-35 fully synthetic for my 10 years old saga flx...
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