Dear all, I'm torn between getting

Ativa - 75K - New - 6xx per month (Long waiting time, 5-6 mth)
Ok turbo, powerful, A to B.

Myvi - 59K - New - 5xx per month (Long waiting time, 5-6mth)
save money, ok normal car... A to B

or

New Axia - estimate 45K (300++) + CRZ 50k (700++)
Axia for work/daily and CRZ for weekend ..

is it wise to do so? or just get Ativa/Myvi and get done with it?

With CRZ approaching 10 years, supply will get less and problem will occur.. so thinking to pair an Axia with it.

Please think about maintenance, road tax and insurance as well. Can you afford for both?

4 api. that all i say
3api dont

Ativa is not powerful its just turbo to make like 1.5 car and when turbo kick in fuel drink in too. better u buy myvi

How about just CRZ and forget Axia?

normal maint all are ok, don't gearbox rosak kind of repair, will be heavy a bit.

Ok, many Ativa OTR tho... just feel not worth to spend 75K for it...


Ya... but not happy need to wait 6 mths.

Possible also because Perodua car long waiting time..

Until I have kid then maybe consider 4 doors.

if CRZ is my only car, I hope it won't break down often.. hard to find car club to discuss nowadays, I think all disbanded.

what do you mean make it like 1.5? the power barely rival iriz 1.3.. +__+ you thought this car Ford Fiesta Ecoboost a

Ativa power is normal, as almost all plebian know, Iriz 1.6 and new Almera 1.0 turbo is faster .

Ativa power is on par with Iriz 1.3.

i suggest you buy Picanto GT Line.

This post has been edited by babisotong: Jan 5 2023, 01:56 PM

lets talk about turbo..
big turbo, kick in around 2.8k rpm and above, why? because big turbo fin need spin very fast only can maximize the compression, in other word, PSI / bar.

small turbo like ativa, already kick in start from 1.8k and the psi/bar is capped when reach around 4k rpm..

in other word, not all car with turbo is sportscar.

from your choices, i will pick ativa, maintenance cheap, affordable, fuel saving, good pickup..

Temporary/spare car can just use Axia if you are not big.

But what stops you from looking at P1 best seller Saga?

Thanks bro, but only limited to these choices..


Myvi also similar with the advantages, and 15K cheaper? that's why kinda hard to swallow Ativa for me...

All options also planning to use min 5 years. If Axia, then will look for CRZ 😂 anyhow new cars need to wait 6 months.

P1... no la... no more P1 in my life.. sorry.. bitter experience.

testdrive first.

my girlfriend initially wanted to change to myvi from axia.
but when she testdrive myvi, her facial expression is like, oh ok. myvi.
then when she test ativa, she is full with joy, better pickup, SUV height, and interior quality/make is way more better than myvi. not to mention all the small touches like headlight follows your steering angle, interior foot light, NVH and comfort.
is 15k more expensive but monthly installment is just around 150++.

better dont go for CRZ if you plan to use min 5 years. CRZ got the look but driving it is not fun at all especially the AT variant.
you will need to prepare at least 5k to rebuild all control arm and shocks, or maybe another 5k for the steering rack and driveshaft as it is 10 years old car going through all the potholes already.
still need another budget to prepare for radiator, coolant and hoses change.

if the interior is badly worn then another budget again, seats sure senget, steering sure scratch alot.

If your built is big, Axia is not pleasant, I'm average guy also keep bumping my elbow here and there especially the "handbag hook" when i try to reach behind.
painful experience need time to get used to.

Not sure which P1 model you referring to, they used to suck back then, but the recent models after Geely takeover were pretty positive and also popular among grab drivers, Saga is actually pretty reliable and cheap to Maintain.

I would skip Ativa the maintenance wasn't cheap especially the tire cost easily above RM400 which is enough to almost change all 4 for Axia/Myvi

If really among 3 choices u listed, Myvi should be the better choice as 2nd/spare car.

2 small cars...

buy used car but scared breakdown then best you reevaluate your funds, mana $ for repair & maintenance & unforseen surprise repair

personally, i would get none of the cars you listed, but then again no criteria mentioned either so:

used myvi for daily
used rwd/4wd performance car instead of dull fwd for weekend

first - set your budget
second - set your objective

without clear objective will lead you to no where.

Sample objective
- small car, lower maintenance cost
- no local brand, used car, repair not a concern
- sedan with high torque

A to B can be ignored. Which car doesn't commute from A to B

if you are telling i don't mind suv, i don't mind no turbo, i don't mind used car, i don't mind maintenance. i don't mind appearance
the u have not setting any objective.

with the correct objective, the answer will be reveal

This post has been edited by musteng: Jan 5 2023, 05:44 PM

I would void turbo. Small engine turbo is more like asking for trouble for me + maintenance would be higher than normal.

I'd go for MyVi as previous owner of Axia and current MyVi owner.

if you are looking at these 3 choices, my guess is you have limited budget for cars.

skip ativa cause the tires looks good but will be costly to maintain.

skip axia, too small and small car lower protection during collision usually.
skip crv, you pay that money now, you gonna pay more later when you hunting for parts

choose myvi, cheaper than ativa, hatchback good for utility, low ride better stability, good fc

The pain with all these models is long waiting period

pick a used mvyi mg3 lo. #apasusah
pay n collect key so fast. u can telan even older crz. why not

not really base on rpm. is exhaust flow instead
dont believe u pijak max on first gear nearly no boost one

If these are your only options then I'll buy only the CRZ and make it my daily. Not sure why you picked CRZ but I wouldn't be able to endure driving the other 3 options you have listed.

Buy and deal with all the key components that may leave you stranded first, then daily drive it and fix some bits here and there as long as the shitbox moves.

Edit: Oh and the hybrid battery too.

This post has been edited by HalseyFrangipane: Jan 6 2023, 12:26 AM

Just stick to 1 then, CRZ or if u can wait, i suggest Ativa.

New model, new design, new look and even though it's turbo, you don't need to worries much since latest tech/engine small boost engine kinda reliable enough.

I just helped my bro in law to refresh his CRZ suspensions. Almost every component. (Including steering rack ends)

It costs only 6k+
Not bad.

And from the learning and understanding of the entire suspension system , just the Aluminium lower arm ALONE, is enough reason to pick the CRZ over ANY P2 shit boxes. (And obviously yes, that's the most expensive part in the entire refresh)

3rd option is Axia + CRZ (300++ plus 700++)?
might as well buy any new Japanse car lo

Dear, thank you guys for so many valuable input... as post limitation I can't tag all and reply, I hope you all able to read this. lengthy post...

On what car selection...
Type of car - Looking for smaller size, easy to nimble in city, 95% city drive.

Maintenance, generally I'm ok with 4-5K p/a... not 10K-20K p/a ... most important is, can repair and drive..
If new car, just regular oil change I believe.

Used car, I have regular mechanic, but not sure if they do hybrid.

Insurance - all low sum insured car anyway (within 2K, 55ncb)

After all the input, I can't really persuade myself to go for 75K ativa. I have budget of 70-80K for new car.. about 15K DP, but don't want to lock myself la...

Rgd why CRZ,
+ Timeless design, still looks really good (to me), maybe that was during my 25s when they launched... turns my head till now, itch in my heart.
+ Power wise, 130s HP 170s torque, much better than other choices. Enough to do some random sprint on highway or empty road.
+ Not sure about handling, but should be on par or better than Perodua. (Previously driving Iriz, my wife with Myvi G3)
+ Maintenance shouldn't be 1K per month? I hope..
+ Immediate get car

- Need fork out money for maintenance
- higher monthly loan payment due to less loan years
- unknown breakdown possibility (of course I need to worry about this, if break down, I need to take grab)
- Smaller community to help with info now...


Myvi
+ A 5 seaters! no question mark from family or in laws, despite I can use my wife's Myvi if needed... but that's not my car..
+ Maintenance, definitely lower, 1,200 per year can settle.. excl tyres
+ D-CVT is not slow either, (surely enough to use for city and trip to east coast, once per year)
- No hassle.

- Just normal car to run A to B, maybe can mod with some bars.
- Boring a bit, use head to think, really better choice 😂
- Need to wait 6 months with langsi SA


Further read



Welcome more input discussion...

Hahaa.. yes.. can get new vios or city already... but no look la.. just A to B car, to me it's same as Myvi?

used to own a crz for 1 year.
good handling car and cheap maintaence as it share most part with City TMO.
Just dont expect performance from its 1.5 cvt. if you can live with the impracticality, then go for it. but buying another car to accommodate CRZ is a bit awkward. your NCD 55% is only applicable for 1 car. unless you have 2 55%NCD. if i were to spend 1.1k on monthly installment, i rather go for civic ketam.
Current market value for CRZ is 50-55k for 2013.
Last two years i traded in my 2013 for 38k. that is some thing for you to consider to buy used hybrid and further down the road, when no loan can be applied, the resale value will plummet even lower.

take battery replaced one 53k
jimat a lot d

bought a axia for my teen, but ended up using it more as really enjoy the convenience.
if you can afford the Myvi is an allrounder and will provide most of the ticks.
axia engine 3 cylinder and quite loud. practical for short errand runs and weekend parking jam.

Myvi is quite a sum more if you compared to Axia, but it should last you for awhile without much concern for depreciation.

Axia

if main purpose just A to B, Axia will do

if want all around car, and u have 1k+ to spare, no brainer go for new Jap car lo

Looks like you've already made up your mind from your earlier postings. Just get the crz, enjoy it, and sell it when it starts giving your problems. Consider any losses as "adrenaline tax" and you wont have any regrets.

Get new Axia for daily drive

go for CRZ since you liked it, it's better since if you bought others and there is things you don't like, you going to regret it.

Better bought the CRZ and enjoyed it.

BUT spend sometimes searching for really good condition 1 OR 1 with new battery.

thanks for your value input, CVT lifespan is a concern as well

yes bro.. myvi is also a good car, I need the car 1-2 months next because no car for me to drive now.

Hahaha.. correct la... that's why thought to go safe road or dangerous road only..

honestly not really made up my mind, if SA call me up next week and tell me myvi is ready, I'd go for it and rest my life for next 5 years making money.

if still need to wait 6 months, in between I can't stop myself looking at alternatives.. (no car for me right now)

I also stuck in between new Axia or Iriz. I pick Iriz standard cause I love the dark interior and looks premium, good handling + stable, although fuel consumption is on par with Polo

If you don't care about space at all, go for Iriz. Iriz bonnet space sucks balls.. latest Axia is not really that bad in term of handling, can easily improved it via bigger rim + better tyres combo.

however Axia won't get the refinement from Iriz, If you liked Iriz but want space, go for new saga.

D74A new Axia model expected this year

I would say go for Ativa, I fitted my wife's car with a cheap TC and the power delivery is so sweat for city drive. Turbo lag is reduced.

Myvi, despite using the same D-CVT as Ativa, my mum's new car has this loud drone sound. Complained to SC and they answered it is the same for all Myvi variants => loud drone. Ativa has got almost no loud drone sound.

Secondly, all Myvi are fitted with very small front seats, hard to get comfortable when driving. Ativa on the other hand, has large front seats by Perodua standard.

Bro
You are right on P2 waiting list

But if you have time, slowly find seller online
Few P2 SA can provide car fast, I got my car in 1 month time

And P2 Glenmarie and Kota Damansara got few good SA that can surprise you