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TSTsubaki P
post Jan 5 2023, 12:43 PM, updated 3y ago

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Dear all, I'm torn between getting

Ativa - 75K - New - 6xx per month (Long waiting time, 5-6 mth)
Ok turbo, powerful, A to B.

Myvi - 59K - New - 5xx per month (Long waiting time, 5-6mth)
save money, ok normal car... A to B

or

New Axia - estimate 45K (300++) + CRZ 50k (700++)
Axia for work/daily and CRZ for weekend ..

is it wise to do so? or just get Ativa/Myvi and get done with it?

With CRZ approaching 10 years, supply will get less and problem will occur.. so thinking to pair an Axia with it.
TSTsubaki P
post Jan 5 2023, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(edan1979 @ Jan 5 2023, 12:47 PM)
Please think about maintenance, road tax and insurance as well. Can you afford for both?
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normal maint all are ok, don't gearbox rosak kind of repair, will be heavy a bit.

QUOTE(ktek @ Jan 5 2023, 01:07 PM)
4 api. that all i say
3api dont
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Ok, many Ativa OTR tho... just feel not worth to spend 75K for it...


QUOTE(kausar @ Jan 5 2023, 01:09 PM)
Ativa is not powerful its just turbo to make like 1.5 car and when turbo kick in fuel drink in too. better u buy myvi
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Ya... but not happy need to wait 6 mths.

QUOTE(Dratini @ Jan 5 2023, 01:11 PM)
How about just CRZ and forget Axia?
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Possible also because Perodua car long waiting time..

Until I have kid then maybe consider 4 doors.

if CRZ is my only car, I hope it won't break down often.. hard to find car club to discuss nowadays, I think all disbanded.
TSTsubaki P
post Jan 5 2023, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Jan 5 2023, 01:55 PM)
Ativa power is normal, as almost all plebian know, Iriz 1.6 and new Almera 1.0 turbo is faster .

Ativa power is on par with Iriz 1.3.

i suggest you buy Picanto GT Line.
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Thanks bro, but only limited to these choices..


QUOTE(JZenith @ Jan 5 2023, 02:21 PM)
lets talk about turbo..
big turbo, kick in  around 2.8k rpm and above, why? because big turbo fin need spin very fast only can maximize the compression, in other word, PSI / bar.

small turbo like ativa, already kick in start from 1.8k and the psi/bar is capped when reach around 4k rpm..

in other word, not all car with turbo is sportscar.

from your choices, i will pick ativa, maintenance cheap, affordable, fuel saving, good pickup..
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Myvi also similar with the advantages, and 15K cheaper? that's why kinda hard to swallow Ativa for me...

QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 5 2023, 02:25 PM)
Temporary/spare car can just use Axia if you are not big.

But what stops you from looking at P1 best seller Saga?
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All options also planning to use min 5 years. If Axia, then will look for CRZ 😂 anyhow new cars need to wait 6 months.

P1... no la... no more P1 in my life.. sorry.. bitter experience.

TSTsubaki P
post Jan 6 2023, 10:27 AM

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Dear, thank you guys for so many valuable input... as post limitation I can't tag all and reply, I hope you all able to read this. lengthy post...

On what car selection...
Type of car - Looking for smaller size, easy to nimble in city, 95% city drive.

Maintenance, generally I'm ok with 4-5K p/a... not 10K-20K p/a ... most important is, can repair and drive..
If new car, just regular oil change I believe.

Used car, I have regular mechanic, but not sure if they do hybrid.

Insurance - all low sum insured car anyway (within 2K, 55ncb)

After all the input, I can't really persuade myself to go for 75K ativa. I have budget of 70-80K for new car.. about 15K DP, but don't want to lock myself la...

Rgd why CRZ,
+ Timeless design, still looks really good (to me), maybe that was during my 25s when they launched... turns my head till now, itch in my heart.
+ Power wise, 130s HP 170s torque, much better than other choices. Enough to do some random sprint on highway or empty road.
+ Not sure about handling, but should be on par or better than Perodua. (Previously driving Iriz, my wife with Myvi G3)
+ Maintenance shouldn't be 1K per month? I hope..
+ Immediate get car

- Need fork out money for maintenance
- higher monthly loan payment due to less loan years
- unknown breakdown possibility (of course I need to worry about this, if break down, I need to take grab)
- Smaller community to help with info now...


Myvi
+ A 5 seaters! no question mark from family or in laws, despite I can use my wife's Myvi if needed... but that's not my car..
+ Maintenance, definitely lower, 1,200 per year can settle.. excl tyres
+ D-CVT is not slow either, (surely enough to use for city and trip to east coast, once per year)
- No hassle.

- Just normal car to run A to B, maybe can mod with some bars.
- Boring a bit, use head to think, really better choice 😂
- Need to wait 6 months with langsi SA


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TSTsubaki P
post Jan 6 2023, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(ZzZzz... @ Jan 6 2023, 10:18 AM)
3rd option is Axia + CRZ (300++ plus 700++)?
might as well buy any new Japanse car lo
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Hahaa.. yes.. can get new vios or city already... but no look la.. just A to B car, to me it's same as Myvi?
TSTsubaki P
post Jan 6 2023, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(68 others @ Jan 6 2023, 10:37 AM)
used to own a crz for 1 year.
good handling car and cheap maintaence as it share most part with City TMO.
Just dont expect performance from its 1.5 cvt. if you can live with the impracticality, then go for it. but buying another car to accommodate CRZ is a bit awkward. your NCD 55% is only applicable for 1 car. unless you have 2 55%NCD. if i were to spend 1.1k on monthly installment, i rather go for civic ketam.
Current market value for CRZ is 50-55k for 2013.
Last two years i traded in my 2013 for 38k. that is some thing for you to consider to buy used hybrid and further down the road, when no loan can be applied, the resale value will plummet even lower.
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thanks for your value input, CVT lifespan is a concern as well

QUOTE(dudester @ Jan 6 2023, 10:46 AM)
bought a axia for my teen, but ended up using it more as really enjoy the convenience.
if you can afford the Myvi is an allrounder and will provide most of the ticks.
axia engine 3 cylinder and quite loud. practical for short errand runs and weekend parking jam.

Myvi is quite a sum more if you compared to Axia, but it should last you for awhile without much concern for depreciation.
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yes bro.. myvi is also a good car, I need the car 1-2 months next because no car for me to drive now.

QUOTE(ZzZzz... @ Jan 6 2023, 11:14 AM)
if main purpose just A to B, Axia will do

if want all around car, and u have 1k+ to spare, no brainer go for new Jap car lo
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Hahaha.. correct la... that's why thought to go safe road or dangerous road only..

QUOTE(peanut @ Jan 6 2023, 11:17 AM)
Looks like you've already made up your mind from your earlier postings. Just get the crz, enjoy it, and sell it when it starts giving your problems. Consider any losses as "adrenaline tax" and you wont have any regrets.
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QUOTE(babisotong @ Jan 6 2023, 11:47 AM)
go for CRZ since you liked it, it's better since if you bought others and there is things you don't like, you going to regret it.

Better bought the CRZ and enjoyed it.

BUT spend sometimes searching for really good condition 1 OR 1 with new battery.
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honestly not really made up my mind, if SA call me up next week and tell me myvi is ready, I'd go for it and rest my life for next 5 years making money.

if still need to wait 6 months, in between I can't stop myself looking at alternatives.. (no car for me right now)

 

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