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post Oct 10 2007, 01:43 PM, updated 19y ago

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Was thinkin to get a used car, for me Volvo is quite a nice choice.
But i wonder why their aft market value is so low. ( year 2k selling 40K+)
Is it because many 'defective' case happened on volvo after few years? or maybe maintanance problem? its durable?
How is the performance of those cars?

Need some feed back from u guys.
Even better if have Volvo users here can share with me.

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post Oct 10 2007, 01:48 PM

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The market never lies... if the volvo is such a good car more people will want one therefore driving up prices. A friend of mine bought an alfa and the car spend more time in the shop than being driven by him. tongue.gif

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post Oct 10 2007, 02:01 PM

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i think maintainance for a Volvo is kinda pricey
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post Oct 10 2007, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(FaTJ3sT3R aka Th!NjOK3R @ Oct 10 2007, 02:01 PM)
i think maintainance for a Volvo is kinda pricey
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Yup...the car is very reliable....but then, spare parts and service will cost u a bomb....if not mistaken, even the side mirrors cost near rm600-800 for a brand new pair
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post Oct 10 2007, 11:06 PM

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My dad owned Volvo S40 ( previous gen) and S60..Walao, the maintainance u gonna cry cry.gif Beh tahan...so sold out edi biggrin.gif


Added on October 10, 2007, 11:08 pmWhen u sell out..the value very low. Think twice if really want to buy volvo.

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post Oct 11 2007, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(InF.anime @ Oct 10 2007, 01:43 PM)
Was thinkin to get a used car, for me Volvo is quite a nice choice.
But i wonder why their aft market value is so low. ( year 2k selling 40K+)
Is it because many 'defective' case happened on volvo after few years? or maybe maintanance problem? its durable?
How is the performance of those cars?

Need some feed back from u guys.
Even better if have Volvo users here can share with me.
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the main reason why is because the demand of the cars in the market is low...

malaysians are more towards brand like Mercedes Benz and BMW ...

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post Oct 11 2007, 12:38 AM

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Not really.
Few months back, I was scouting for the S80.
Even the year 2000, 2001 ones are still asking for over RM100k.

And Volvo is really a reliable,safe & comfortable car.

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post Oct 11 2007, 01:34 AM

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the icon of bmw is sporty while mercedes is luxury.. volvo have nothing.
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post Oct 11 2007, 01:38 AM

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BMW = sporty
Merc = luxury
Volvo = safety

Ok? laugh.gif
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post Oct 11 2007, 02:07 AM

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but the safety on other car manufacture almost same as volvo..

hehehe volvo only well know for always test crash their car.
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post Oct 11 2007, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(climacool @ Oct 10 2007, 11:06 PM)
My dad owned Volvo S40 ( previous gen) and S60..Walao, the maintainance u gonna cry cry.gif Beh tahan...so sold out edi biggrin.gif


Added on October 10, 2007, 11:08 pmWhen u sell out..the value very low. Think twice if really want to buy volvo.
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How 'jiak lak' izzit?
Dont worry bout its after market value, since im scouting for a used one rolleyes.gif scout scout..

QUOTE(zacevox @ Oct 11 2007, 02:07 AM)
but the safety on other car manufacture almost same as volvo..

hehehe volvo only well know for always test crash their car.
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dont say like this la.. how much u know about Volvo??
They invented the ultimate life saving eqiup~ seat belt.. u know
For me, S80 is really a beautiful car smile.gif

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post Oct 11 2007, 09:00 AM

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I have come across some S40 and tried it, and driven a S80T year 2003.
Car is heavy. It lacks the pick up, eventhough mine was a T-series.
What you might expect from a Volvo is relatively a simple, no fussy gadgets design, a clean safe and comfortable car to drive.
As state here as well....if you ever want to do maintenance...you'll need to take a painful cut in your pocket.
Then again, if you get a good condition S40...it's a good catch. From what I know, Volvo hardly runs into any breakdown problems.

But at the price of 40k++, and if you are ever looking into continental...an Audi is quite another choice you might wish to consider.
Yr 2000, hits about 50k+, the non-turbo version.
Just find a nice under 150k, good history maintenance...and you're good. After all...when u drive an Audi, you're behind the dashboard of an aeroplane...hohohoh...

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post Oct 11 2007, 09:37 AM

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For more insights on S40/60/80 maintenance and common problems, do check Malaysian Volvo owners' club.

www.vocm.com.my

do get a Volvo with T5 engine. You'll be surprised on its performance.

My advice, if you wanna use a secondhand Volvo, never send them to authorised dealer (Federal Auto, Swedish Marque etc.) for maintenance. Instead opt for reputable independent workshops. The price different is like heaven and earth. That's why a lot of people would not dare to try a Volvo, especially the newer models.

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post Oct 11 2007, 12:31 PM

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yup maintenance kill u ....i got my s40 and everytime jsut go for normal maintenance price starts from rm800

so far only done twice maintenance...... the good thing is maintenance on this s40 is every 10k - 20k so u got long time to use........


value wise? yea kinda sad that my car drop value more than 50% already.......
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Oct 11 2007, 01:38 AM)
BMW = sporty
Merc = luxury
Volvo = safety

Ok? laugh.gif
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agree! volvo is well known for their safety. I love volvo because they have turbo inside the engine. hehehe~


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post Oct 11 2007, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Oct 11 2007, 08:33 AM)
How 'jiak lak' izzit?
Dont worry bout its after market value, since im scouting for a used one  rolleyes.gif scout scout..
dont say like this la.. how much u know about Volvo??
They invented the ultimate life saving eqiup~ seat belt.. u know
For me, S80 is really a  beautiful car  smile.gif
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i think volvo maybe the only manufacture which test crash their vehicle more than other manufacture. and true volvo invent many safety technology but other car manufacture also copy their technology.

safety on bmw or mercedes also quite equal to volvo mah..
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Oct 11 2007, 01:34 AM)
the icon of bmw is sporty while mercedes is luxury.. volvo have nothing.
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lol?

volvo has safety......
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QUOTE(theanswer @ Oct 11 2007, 04:34 PM)
agree! volvo is well known for their safety. I love volvo because they have turbo inside the engine. hehehe~
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Audi & Benz also got mah.

Audi with their TFSI engine while Benz with the Kompressor.


Added on October 11, 2007, 11:33 pm
QUOTE(zacevox @ Oct 11 2007, 01:34 AM)
the icon of bmw is sporty while mercedes is luxury.. volvo have nothing.
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Have u drove or sat in a Volvo b4?

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post Oct 12 2007, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(zacevox @ Oct 11 2007, 06:28 PM)
i think volvo maybe the only manufacture which test crash their vehicle more than other manufacture. and true volvo invent many safety technology but other car manufacture also copy their technology.

safety on bmw or mercedes also quite equal to volvo mah..
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No...u cant say that. Each brand of cars such as BMW, mercs and etc also hav their own technology.
I suggest you go for Volvo showroom, test drive and do research about volvo cars smile.gif

P/S : I think you do hav any knowledge about Volvo cars and u sound like HATE volvo very much whistling.gif

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hehe i hate volvo? recently i just argue with another forumer regard the ugly volvo rear than the ugly savvy..

ok then forget it lah. tongue.gif

ya i haven't drive any volvo before. but i know lah volvo are good in safety with their own safety invention. they sacrified many car for test crash in the name of safety..

however i also believe the safety of bmw and mercedes won't far from behind. that what i mean

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post Oct 19 2007, 12:57 AM

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How is the fuel consumption for S40?
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from what i read the new 5 series is nowhere close to the newvolvo s80 in terms of safety.
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post Oct 19 2007, 01:20 PM

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fuel consumption?? full tank rm78 around 400+km
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post Oct 19 2007, 03:44 PM

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2nd hand S80 selling RM80k++ only rite?
emm i think the maintainance is quite high for volvo..
and resell market value is really low lo..
at least the depreciation for this car 10k n above per year..

in terns of safety.. yes volvo did a great job on safety..

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From what I observe in LYN, most of Volvo-phobic statements come from those who never owned a Volvo during their entire life.

Strangely some of Proton bashers, owned a Proton.

FYI, Volvo cars has been around in Malaysia since 1960's with 122 model. The high number of old volvo cars (20 years and above) on Malaysian road speaks much on the durability and longetivy of the car and design. BMW only made impacts with Malaysians with their 3-Series in the 80's. Merc..this marque has been here more than 50 years. Synonym with successful businessmen as this is the most expensive luxury sedan available at that time.
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so are u getting one of it??

i own a volvo...its definitely a very comfortable nice ride, if i must say better than my bros bmw 3series, but well if both of us were to go out, he gets the light.......

but i can say the volvo really burn holesssssssssssss......especially during servicing
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i personally like the volvo s40.. very gentleman, very solid, very mature.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jeremy0 @ Oct 10 2007, 03:13 PM)
Yup...the car is very reliable....but then, spare parts and service will cost u a bomb....if not mistaken, even the side mirrors cost near rm600-800 for a brand new pair
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well, toyota altis original mirror cost you about RM 800 a pair.

no surpise. aint expensive. only the engine bay cost u a bom !

BMW side mirror - RM 2k
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QUOTE(nabelon @ Oct 19 2007, 01:05 PM)
from what i read the new 5 series is nowhere close to the newvolvo s80 in terms of safety.
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the whole volvo series seems to be a little short from the competition, always filling in the gaps between the merz S and merz E and C, as well as the BMW 3,5 and 7 series..

the S40 stands slightly below the 3 series and C class,
while the S60 stands between the 3 series and 5 series, as well as between C and E,
and the S80 stands between the 5 and 7, as well as the E and S.
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avoid competition.....since they only have safety in their hands....
other brands are too established, so find a gap between to slot their products....something like what nissan is doing here in malaysia.
volvo will something nice to buy if u dont mind the resale value becoz sales wise is not so good here and u dont get the fuss of too many electronics etc.....except maybe the latest S80.
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ehhaehea just to give u an idea why i bought the volvo s40? cause i fall short of $$$ and the next best choice from a bmw, is the cheaper alternative volvo (which works as well)...........

but i am not complaining at all, b'cos the volvo have what 3 series has...and i think more too...although i cant figure out what is the AWD for and how to use it?


edit: this is a car for many years to come, i.e 6-10 years, not for those who wanna change car every year.......if u want that, y not use the money and buy 7x myvi (7 colours one for every day or diff mood)

i can tell u owning 7x cars (regardless of value) is definitely more head turn than one miserable volvo. (and of course its even more better to own 7x expensive car, but if u can afford that, i bet u wont even have the time to lepak here) laugh.gif

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post Oct 25 2007, 09:23 PM

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Volvo is still a nice chioce for me.
Scout some used one at KL, the body is solid thumbup.gif suspention is good! thumbup.gif seat is great !!! Accelerate ?? not sure hmm.gif cant really test out.. scared accident lol laugh.gif
Only worry about the maintanance fees and fuel consumption. Becoz 2.0L 'drink' a lot fuel lol.
Thank Volvo user for sharin their exp here notworthy.gif
Hope more of u guys can share with me icon_rolleyes.gif thanks.
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Oct 23 2007, 12:06 PM)
and of course its even more better to own 7x expensive car, but if u can afford that, i bet u wont even have the time to lepak here laugh.gif
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Ouch man, that's hurt...

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I also like the look of S40, solid, smart and executive look.
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solid and comfortable car........tried it lately, my friend just bought a year2001 s60 for RM50K, not bad, but the parts are so damn expensive, even the interior plastic parts cost a bomb. do u know how much if u wanna duplicate the remote of the car? ...........almost 1K!!!
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does anyone knows where to get cheap part for volvo car (the old type - not sure which model)? need/want to get a replacement for the plastic parts for the driver's door pocket and the the door lock (the one inside the car - ca be pull up and push down) ...
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s40 = chiqs car (seriously!!)..

s60 = yeah!! mans car!! exec look..gentleman look..

s80 = well..it kinda screams "driver needed..i 1 2 relaks"...

jz me two cents!! tongue.gif

me personal fav...s60 T5..but price..haihz!!
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QUOTE(ticke @ Nov 3 2007, 12:08 PM)
does anyone knows where to get cheap part for volvo car (the old type - not sure which model)? need/want to get a replacement for the plastic parts for the driver's door pocket and the the door lock (the one inside the car - ca be pull up and push down)  ...
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its best to consult your trusted mechanic and ask him if he can find kereta potong parts la...if u really wanna get cheap parts. blush.gif

anyway here's my opinion, n im drivin an s60 2.0t...

Volvos are a hit and miss affair...if ur lucky u get a reliable one, if not u basically get a 'jinxed' unit...its good to check car review websites to know opinions and feedback of REAL, PROPER VOLVO drivers instead of getting assumptions from non-Volvo drivers as well as brand bashers.

i admit maintenence is a REAL KILLER...not a lot of Volvo drivers are a happy coz got quite a lot of probs here and thr but STILL it is more reliable and SAFER than most comparable leading brands. Not that im a basher but id like to point this out: How many broken down bimmers and mercs, old and new, u see on the road, compared volvos? some may say this is a bad generalisation but its what i do observe nowadays.

anyway if u really like the design of the new s40, think twice coz the 2.4L non-turbo engine is a guzzler. The previous gen s40 or v40 are much kinder to ur pocket coz they're light and have a, i'd say, punchy 2.0L 4-cylinder mitsubishi engine (with rather same genetics as the engine in our Satria GTi's and Putra's). i drove both before, it was very agile, quite compact, comfortable and fun to drive, even though one was a station wagon.

the s60 2.0t is somewhat smoother and more spacious, but the T5 model being the real performer. some reckon it can smoke subie imprezas in a straight line. i find it quite a beautiful ride. the s80, is the big brother. wouldnt recommend it unless, yeah u have a driver or ur already middle aged. i remember sitting in one, a 2000s model and my dad didnt see a speed bump, he was going around 60 to 80km/h. i thought we were gonna hit it hard but surprisingly, it was smoothened out and there wasnt any loud thuds whatsoever.

the models mentioned are tuned for comfort and not for for optimal performance, so don't expect them to beat sportier bimmers and audis around corners. soft suspension etc however the brakes are a force to be reckoned with. i remember there was a magazine testing the braking performance (wet & dry) of cars and volvo came up tops compared to other marques. as for safety, volvo has a great reputation for it spanning generations. so, it is unfair to say bimmers and mercs are up to that par. just look at the amount of airbags in the car.

Besides, the newer models have a fuel consumption meter that will inform u of how much fuel ur burning on the fly...so basically u'll end up driving more sensibly to keep the numbers down. And yes, outstation driving is a breeze coz most of the time (when cruising) on the highway the meter will be registering single digits liters of fuel per 100km of driving.
eg X L/100km...a trip frm kl to ipoh and back maybe around RM25 of fuel only, no joke...but town driving dont expect these figures la since u r lugging a car with an engine no smaller than 2.0L!
edit: fyi the engines have variable valve timing to help with fuel consumption. so fc should be reasonable and competitive, though turbocharged or have a big displacement

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High maintanance fee is very expensive..Dad used to own one.
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i say maintenance is expensive but if u have the kind of income to get this car i dont think its a problem either.............
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Come 30 June, I will be celebrating 4 years of meaningful ownership experience with my Volvo S40 2.4i.

4 years is not a short period of time; its actually one Olympic cycle and also one soccer World Cup cycle. A newborn will be on the way to pre-school after 4 years. Having said that, it was as if yesterday that I went to Federal Auto to collect my car keys.

At that point, my wife was toying between the BMW 1 series and Volvo S40. In the end, we decided on S40 becos:

(1) The legroom for the 1 series was pathetic. I hardly can sit comfortably at the backseat !

(2) The 1 series looked good in the picture but somehow the long bonnet with hatchback seems to put the car in a disproportionate shape. Unlike the S40, its physical look was a marked improvement from the old S40 ie more streamline.

(3) Federal Auto offered an irresistible proposition - 140,000km free regular maintenance without time limit. This means I will get free service for 7 years (the expected holding period for cars I owned) assuming an average of 20,000km usage annually. Such offer is likely to offset the notorious high maintenance cost of Volvos.

So after 4 years, before I conclude whether I made the right call in making the leap of faith on the Volvo brand, let's look at my ownership experience thus far. Ownership experience in my mind comes in a package. I do not look at the performance and ownership cost of the car alone, but also the after sales support from Volvo Malaysia and the dealers like Federal Auto and Swedish Marque.

Performance

For the record, the figures look impressive; the engine supposed to churn out 170hp and 230nm of torque.A statistics not many Japanese sedans that are available in Malaysia can match. 170hp also means its better than the overpriced BMW 320i which only churns out mere 150hp. Facts and figures aside, I have mixed feelings as far as this area is concern. It could be that I was spoilt by the BMW 325 Sports which is of a different class in terms of speed, pick up and responsiveness. This is definitely a smooth cruiser in the North South Highway - sweet engine sound and quiet (This only happened after I changed my original Continental tyres to Michelin Pilot Preceda 2!) ride.

However, if you are to put the Volvo to test in Genting or Cameron Highlands, the engine seems to 'complain' as if you are putting it on a 'stress test'. It no longer purrs but more of howling. Nevertheless, it will still pull the carriage up fairly well outperforming many Jap cars I have tried before. While pick up is above average but I am not convinced the official 0-100kmh stats of 8.9 seconds is realistic.

The car seems to give me the impression that whenever you floor the pedal, the car will question you 'are u sure u r doin this' but it will not let you down as it will eventually deliver the speed and acceleration.

Fuel consumption

I was not sure about the official statistics. But the car consistently delivers around 12 to 13 litres/100km for pure city use. This is with my driver occasionally kept the engine on while waiting for me. As for highway run, if one keeps to a constant speed of 110 kmh, 8 litres/100km is highly achievable. But struggles to go below 8. My best run surprisingly comes from my BMW E46 325 a couple of years back at 6.9 litres/100km. But nevertheless no complaint for me vis a vis the fuel consumption.

Comfort and ride quality

As always, a kid's feedback is always pure and frank. Between the BMW and Volvo, my two year + old son prefers the Volvo all the time and when asked why, he always say 'seat soft soft'. Even my father who sits at the back most of the time feel that the ergonomics of the car door is excellent as it allows ease of entry and exit from the car. In general, the S40 wins in this area as it is designed mainly for family use, although I do feel the legroom at the back could be improved a little bit. Nevertheless, for a compact executive, what more can one ask for. :-P

One more thing to say is that the child friendly features are excellent. Eg, the Isofix hook is tucked in nicely where it is deep enough so that it does not affect the comfort of the car seat and at the same time it is at a position where you can easily fix the child seat to the hook. Most cars nowadays have Isofix feature but it does not necessarily mean that it is user friendly.

Maintenance and built quality

Maintenance cost has always been the Achilles Heel of Volvo. When I asked Volvo dealers why is that so. They often attribute to that for a start, the brand does not have economies of scale to reduce cost. As a result, most parts come from Europe rather than Asia, hence it is likely to be pricier.

In any case, due to the benefit of free scheduled maintenance, my maintenance cost over the last 4 years have been fairly manageable. But of course, one can't help but to 'experience' the high maintenance cost within this 4 years. Once I sent the car to rectify the air condition problem and also to replace the brake pads, it actually set me back slightly over RM5,000++.

As for built quality, it could be better given that Volvo is a premium brand. The blowing of hot air in the air conditioner and engine management lighted up are examples where such problems should not arise during the first few years of the car's lifespan.

Three other things to watch out for are the battery, remote key battery and gearbox fluid.

(a) Battery - When I first received the car, I was surprised the factory install normal rather than maintenance free batteries, which is often a standard equipment for many premium marques. Even then, the maintenance free battery which I replace with after one year lasted only slightly over 13-14 months. I could not understand why as I have never (believe me !) replaced any of the maintenance free battery in all the BMW models I have owned so far. One possible explanation as I understand from the Autoworld forum is that BMW designs the battery to be located away from the engine, hence insulate the battery from accelerated wear and tear arising for the heat in the engine compartment.

(b) Remote key battery - For a start, I have a complaint on Federal Auto as they claimed that they dun keep inventory for the remote key battery - something not acceptable for an authorised dealer like Federal Auto.A word of caution on this item is that the contact is very sensitive. Since replacing the battery, one of my remote is not working that well due to contact problems.

© Gearbox fluid - Just like BMW, Volvo claimed lifetime warranty for the gearbox fluid BUT never define what is 'lifetime'. I guess they mean that assuming the average lifespan of a gearbox is approx 150-160,000km, one does not really need to replace the fluid during the lifespan of the gearbox. But due to kiasuness, I actually requested the change at 60,000km interval. Surprise surprise, it does not cost much, only around RM500++. I thought it is indeed worth it to get the peace of mind.

Overall, the maintenance cost for Volvo is indeed high. Based on experience, its higher even if compared to BMWs. Stuffs like brake pads, wipers are expensive. However, luckily we have independent suppliers whom we can buy non engine related parts from. Parts like original wipers cost about 50% of what Federal Auto quoted.

Resale value

Volvo is really an underachiever in this area. I look the papers today and note that a 2005 S40 is going at best RM95K - a loss of a staggering RM90K ! This could also attribute by the fact that Volvo Malaysia reduced the S40 price to RM169K sometime in 2007/8, and put a further dent to the resale value of S40s. Frankly, I am disappointed with Volvo for doing so as it does not take into consideration the needs of the loyal customers that they already had. A bird in the hand theory does not seem to be the volcabulory of Volvo's marketing team.

Nevertheless, the absolute loss is still not that bad due to low entry cost aka purchase price. A typical BMW 325 cost originally say RM270K but a 4 year old one would only fetch around RM165-170K. Hence, the absloute loss to the owner remains very high although the percentage loss is lower per year.

After sale services

I normally deal with Federal Auto (FA) as I have the 'service contract' with them. Overall, service level remained average at best. Most of the time I find the service advisor merely is 'doing their job'and passion for the car or the work seems distinctively lacking. Generally, they are not quite communicative and sometimes find it hard to understand why certain parts need to be replaced. They always tell you after doing the diagnostic test based on their maintenance software, this part needs to change. Hmmmph, not so convincing.

Besides, I decided not to use them for insurance as well becos they want to charge 2% if I use credit card to pay; something unheard of even when one deals with the insurance companies direct or AAM. It seems to me FA is very very calculative on that score.

In conclusion

So what does that mean in the end? I adore my Volvo S40 for:

(a) Its streamlined looks
(b) Soft and quiet ride which is ideal for a family car
© The sound quality of the entertainment system
(d) The heavy door that gives the sense of security
(e) Safe car to have cos car jackers are not known to cari pasal with Volvos

BUT I am a little wee disappointed with its:

(a) Pick up. With 8.9 seconds on the stats I thought it could do better
(b) Maintenance cost. This is something that keeps me awake as the car ages
© Rear leg room
(d) That Volvo Malaysia reduced the price at the expense of its loyal customers
(e) Level of quality of the authorised dealers

So, the question remains, would I buy another Volvo again? Well, the acceleration is not great, the marque does not make heads turn and one may be misconstrued as boring for owning a Volvo. It certainly does not have the snob appeal. But what the hell I care since it gives comfort and sense of security to my family. It also seems to be reliable and finally it is a car that I thought gives a good overall package and value for money. Yes, I would consider Volvo again perhaps the XC60 if they offer a smaller cc variant and provided Volvo is not SOLD to some Chinese car manufacturer
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Come 30 June, I will be celebrating 4 years of meaningful ownership experience with my Volvo S40 2.4i.

4 years is not a short period of time; its actually one Olympic cycle and also one soccer World Cup cycle. A newborn will be on the way to pre-school after 4 years. Having said that, it was as if yesterday that I went to Federal Auto to collect my car keys.

At that point, my wife was toying between the BMW 1 series and Volvo S40. In the end, we decided on S40 becos:

(1) The legroom for the 1 series was pathetic. I hardly can sit comfortably at the backseat !

(2) The 1 series looked good in the picture but somehow the long bonnet with hatchback seems to put the car in a disproportionate shape. Unlike the S40, its physical look was a marked improvement from the old S40 ie more streamline.

(3) Federal Auto offered an irresistible proposition - 140,000km free regular maintenance without time limit. This means I will get free service for 7 years (the expected holding period for cars I owned) assuming an average of 20,000km usage annually. Such offer is likely to offset the notorious high maintenance cost of Volvos.

So after 4 years, before I conclude whether I made the right call in making the leap of faith on the Volvo brand, let's look at my ownership experience thus far. Ownership experience in my mind comes in a package. I do not look at the performance and ownership cost of the car alone, but also the after sales support from Volvo Malaysia and the dealers like Federal Auto and Swedish Marque.

Performance

For the record, the figures look impressive; the engine supposed to churn out 170hp and 230nm of torque.A statistics not many Japanese sedans that are available in Malaysia can match. 170hp also means its better than the overpriced BMW 320i which only churns out mere 150hp. Facts and figures aside, I have mixed feelings as far as this area is concern. It could be that I was spoilt by the BMW 325 Sports which is of a different class in terms of speed, pick up and responsiveness. This is definitely a smooth cruiser in the North South Highway - sweet engine sound and quiet (This only happened after I changed my original Continental tyres to Michelin Pilot Preceda 2!) ride.

However, if you are to put the Volvo to test in Genting or Cameron Highlands, the engine seems to 'complain' as if you are putting it on a 'stress test'. It no longer purrs but more of howling. Nevertheless, it will still pull the carriage up fairly well outperforming many Jap cars I have tried before. While pick up is above average but I am not convinced the official 0-100kmh stats of 8.9 seconds is realistic.

The car seems to give me the impression that whenever you floor the pedal, the car will question you 'are u sure u r doin this' but it will not let you down as it will eventually deliver the speed and acceleration.

Fuel consumption

I was not sure about the official statistics. But the car consistently delivers around 12 to 13 litres/100km for pure city use. This is with my driver occasionally kept the engine on while waiting for me. As for highway run, if one keeps to a constant speed of 110 kmh, 8 litres/100km is highly achievable. But struggles to go below 8. My best run surprisingly comes from my BMW E46 325 a couple of years back at 6.9 litres/100km. But nevertheless no complaint for me vis a vis the fuel consumption.

Comfort and ride quality

As always, a kid's feedback is always pure and frank. Between the BMW and Volvo, my two year + old son prefers the Volvo all the time and when asked why, he always say 'seat soft soft'. Even my father who sits at the back most of the time feel that the ergonomics of the car door is excellent as it allows ease of entry and exit from the car. In general, the S40 wins in this area as it is designed mainly for family use, although I do feel the legroom at the back could be improved a little bit. Nevertheless, for a compact executive, what more can one ask for. :-P

One more thing to say is that the child friendly features are excellent. Eg, the Isofix hook is tucked in nicely where it is deep enough so that it does not affect the comfort of the car seat and at the same time it is at a position where you can easily fix the child seat to the hook. Most cars nowadays have Isofix feature but it does not necessarily mean that it is user friendly.

Maintenance and built quality

Maintenance cost has always been the Achilles Heel of Volvo. When I asked Volvo dealers why is that so. They often attribute to that for a start, the brand does not have economies of scale to reduce cost. As a result, most parts come from Europe rather than Asia, hence it is likely to be pricier.

In any case, due to the benefit of free scheduled maintenance, my maintenance cost over the last 4 years have been fairly manageable. But of course, one can't help but to 'experience' the high maintenance cost within this 4 years. Once I sent the car to rectify the air condition problem and also to replace the brake pads, it actually set me back slightly over RM5,000++.

As for built quality, it could be better given that Volvo is a premium brand. The blowing of hot air in the air conditioner and engine management lighted up are examples where such problems should not arise during the first few years of the car's lifespan.

Three other things to watch out for are the battery, remote key battery and gearbox fluid.

(a) Battery - When I first received the car, I was surprised the factory install normal rather than maintenance free batteries, which is often a standard equipment for many premium marques. Even then, the maintenance free battery which I replace with after one year lasted only slightly over 13-14 months. I could not understand why as I have never (believe me !) replaced any of the maintenance free battery in all the BMW models I have owned so far. One possible explanation as I understand from the Autoworld forum is that BMW designs the battery to be located away from the engine, hence insulate the battery from accelerated wear and tear arising for the heat in the engine compartment.

(b) Remote key battery - For a start, I have a complaint on Federal Auto as they claimed that they dun keep inventory for the remote key battery - something not acceptable for an authorised dealer like Federal Auto.A word of caution on this item is that the contact is very sensitive. Since replacing the battery, one of my remote is not working that well due to contact problems.

© Gearbox fluid - Just like BMW, Volvo claimed lifetime warranty for the gearbox fluid BUT never define what is 'lifetime'. I guess they mean that assuming the average lifespan of a gearbox is approx 150-160,000km, one does not really need to replace the fluid during the lifespan of the gearbox. But due to kiasuness, I actually requested the change at 60,000km interval. Surprise surprise, it does not cost much, only around RM500++. I thought it is indeed worth it to get the peace of mind.

Overall, the maintenance cost for Volvo is indeed high. Based on experience, its higher even if compared to BMWs. Stuffs like brake pads, wipers are expensive. However, luckily we have independent suppliers whom we can buy non engine related parts from. Parts like original wipers cost about 50% of what Federal Auto quoted.

Resale value

Volvo is really an underachiever in this area. I look the papers today and note that a 2005 S40 is going at best RM95K - a loss of a staggering RM90K ! This could also attribute by the fact that Volvo Malaysia reduced the S40 price to RM169K sometime in 2007/8, and put a further dent to the resale value of S40s. Frankly, I am disappointed with Volvo for doing so as it does not take into consideration the needs of the loyal customers that they already had. A bird in the hand theory does not seem to be the volcabulory of Volvo's marketing team.

Nevertheless, the absolute loss is still not that bad due to low entry cost aka purchase price. A typical BMW 325 cost originally say RM270K but a 4 year old one would only fetch around RM165-170K. Hence, the absloute loss to the owner remains very high although the percentage loss is lower per year.

After sale services

I normally deal with Federal Auto (FA) as I have the 'service contract' with them. Overall, service level remained average at best. Most of the time I find the service advisor merely is 'doing their job'and passion for the car or the work seems distinctively lacking. Generally, they are not quite communicative and sometimes find it hard to understand why certain parts need to be replaced. They always tell you after doing the diagnostic test based on their maintenance software, this part needs to change. Hmmmph, not so convincing.

Besides, I decided not to use them for insurance as well becos they want to charge 2% if I use credit card to pay; something unheard of even when one deals with the insurance companies direct or AAM. It seems to me FA is very very calculative on that score.

In conclusion

So what does that mean in the end? I adore my Volvo S40 for:

(a) Its streamlined looks
(b) Soft and quiet ride which is ideal for a family car
© The sound quality of the entertainment system
(d) The heavy door that gives the sense of security
(e) Safe car to have cos car jackers are not known to cari pasal with Volvos

BUT I am a little wee disappointed with its:

(a) Pick up. With 8.9 seconds on the stats I thought it could do better
(b) Maintenance cost. This is something that keeps me awake as the car ages
© Rear leg room
(d) That Volvo Malaysia reduced the price at the expense of its loyal customers
(e) Level of quality of the authorised dealers

So, the question remains, would I buy another Volvo again? Well, the acceleration is not great, the marque does not make heads turn and one may be misconstrued as boring for owning a Volvo. It certainly does not have the snob appeal. But what the hell I care since it gives comfort and sense of security to my family. It also seems to be reliable and finally it is a car that I thought gives a good overall package and value for money. Yes, I would consider Volvo again perhaps the XC60 if they offer a smaller cc variant and provided Volvo is not SOLD to some Chinese car manufacturer
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Volvo, with good maintenance, can serve you until your grandotter.
Yes, parts can be expensive and you need to find a good workshop....
can ask VOCM forum for more info on parts and workshop....
DONT WASH Engine. Volvo electrics/electronics is sensitive.
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count my vote for volvo s40 and s80, sweet car...
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to be frank, most of the mat salleh prefer manual car.
auto transmission(torque converter type) take up 10-15% of the engine hp.

QUOTE(InF.anime @ Nov 11 2007, 02:45 AM)
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i tot, only S60R can do that..hehe
he might have tweek his S60 T5
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driven the 2005 S40 2.4i a few times... really nice and comfy car...nice engine sound too..and i think it is very good looking for a volvo.
but yes the pickup is kinda not good, doesn't feel like it has 170hp and 230nm. it is turbo lag or it just doesn't have that much power?
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170bhp but 1300KG ....
want power, than the T5 or S60R

btw, the new S40 is not TURBO .... its 2.4i
the previous one comes with TUrbo

This post has been edited by kudat222: Oct 13 2009, 07:48 PM
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Hi sifu's, im looking forward to purchase volvo s60 2002 model now. Can pls advice,hows the maintenance and problems? Thanks

 

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