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post Apr 17 2023, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Apr 17 2023, 01:52 PM)
He looking for new project I think but must freehold
KK is just 1 of the many things that PH is lacking

Good place for retirement purely just for its peaceful environment. Amenities wise lacking too much
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Most of Subang Jaya land is freehold, including USJ 11
For new development, these days I don't see many attractive ones. Likely developers are not launching their better products now due to the slow market.

PH is not for everyone.
Some like it, some don't.
Everyone has their preference.

Like my boss use to say, got pros, sure got cons....ya
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post Apr 17 2023, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(BRE @ Apr 17 2023, 01:39 PM)
Yah, ph dont have kk, hearsay d 1 in usj1 will reopen soon, but i think most of us will go to private clinics nowadays for fever, flu, cough instead of kk with d long Q, so d absence of kk wont affect ph's attraction for retirement/long term stay
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Boss,
The usj1 is not a reopening small clinic in a shop lot

It's a brand new Health Clinic on 4.4 acres of land.

Wong Chen better fight all the way to get the construction started this year otherwise Subang Jaya residents will go his office and make noise.


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post Apr 17 2023, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Apr 17 2023, 03:22 PM)
Boss,
The usj1 is not a reopening small clinic in a shop lot

It's a brand new Health Clinic on 4.4 acres of land.

Wong Chen better fight all the way to get the construction started this year otherwise Subang Jaya residents will go his office and make noise.
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Wc nt in cabinet so maybe no high hope, bur for my retirement i dont hope for a kk in ph to retire in ph. We got 1 minister i think staying in ph so ph hopefully will be well taken care of. In fact, 1 kk planned in ph sentral but dono when it will b ready, may need another 5 yrs maybe
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post Apr 17 2023, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(BRE @ Apr 17 2023, 02:38 PM)
Wc nt in cabinet so maybe no high hope, bur for my retirement i dont hope for a kk in ph to retire in ph. We got 1 minister i think staying in ph so ph hopefully will be well taken care of. In fact, 1 kk planned in ph sentral but dono when it will b ready, may need another 5 yrs maybe
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He in cabinet or not, I don't care.
He has to push for this as it was 1 of the things residents of Subang Jaya wanted and informed him.
As SJ representative in parliament, it is his job to push for this.
Got nothing to do with cabinet or not.

As per his announcement on Twitter, it is approved after the retabling of the Budget. So let's start the ball rolling and no more excuses.

We want our Health Clinic.
It been 10 years... Just do it...

The minister in ph, we don't ask for anything as she is MP for another constitution. Don't mix it.
Just do her job and don't be corrupt.
That's all I ask from our MP

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post Apr 17 2023, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Apr 17 2023, 01:30 PM)
Hi Boss,
Just came across my mind, thought I share.
Must it be brand new development?
What's your budget and how many occupants?

If you are considering non landed in PH or Subang Jaya, you might want to take a look at Sri Bayu Condominium in USJ 11.
Median price is around RM480psf with build up around 13xxsqf. Not sure the smaller 1100 sqf is available.
This condo is quite old but it's pretty well maintained and density is low compare to these days new launch. Size is pretty optimum, not too big and not too small. Think the 2 blocks just had a new coat of paint a few years back. Bear in mind the low rise block of 3 storey high I think is a walk up. Can't recall all the details of the condo units as it was many moons ago since I did the research.

In front of the Condo is the huge USJ 11 Park, I think the park is around 6 acres and is 1 of the most popular park for the USJ residents. In the evening can get pretty crowded with lots of car parking on both side of the road.

A short walk about 500 meters to usj11/3 and you will find 2 rows of shops for your groceries need. There is a wet market there every week but I can't recall which day of the week it is. If you want more choices, a short drive (approx 2 to 3 minutes, excluding time to find parking..ya) to Taipan commercial and you will have almost everything.

The condo is surrounded by landed dslh and the park in front, so basically nothing is going to block your view and is a distance away from any highway or HTC. It is also not facing any big main road and is full residential title. So no outsider or commi going to be inside the condo.

However, do note you'll need to spend some money to do up the interior of the unit, including wiring and piping. Flooring, kitchen and wardrobe all depends on the condition of the unit but it should be much lesser issue compare to a landed.

Between this and Tropika Paradise, I think this is more worth it but Tropika Paradise do have the advantage of direct link to LRT station. Again, it depends on what you are looking for or prioritize.

While these old condo may not look appealing, they are normally way more practical with lesser fancy facilities and way lower density. Developer just won't build such low density project anymore unless they can have ur kidneys, arms, legs and maybe even liver.

Another point to note is such property has a record already. Valuation is there and it won't vary much unless there is a force sale which is very unlikely. A new development won't have historical data, so the valuation is subjective and all u need is a few desperate owners throwing prices upon VP and you'll see your unit price going down before your 1st defect is fixed. You may feel it doesn't affect you since ownstay but you never know when you need to exit. Property is not only for ownstay but is also a form of capital preservation. You don't want your lifesaving going downhill as you age older.

Happy hunting...ya
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Thanks for your personal sharing, Longshot. Given someone more adventurous, your suggestion is worth thinking about, to get the location and the nearby park. But I don't have the energy now to oversea overhauling the interior of subsale units.
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post Apr 17 2023, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Apr 17 2023, 01:52 PM)
He looking for new project I think but must freehold
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Aaron, spot on
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post Apr 17 2023, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(IronManz @ Apr 17 2023, 03:03 PM)
Aaron, spot on
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U are like me

Except I turned to the dark side, I accepted leasehold

Initial I also die die must FH

But after doing too much research I slowly accepted LH
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post Apr 17 2023, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Apr 17 2023, 07:05 PM)
U are like me

Except I turned to the dark side, I accepted leasehold

Initial I also die die must FH

But after doing too much research I slowly accepted LH
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Come back to the light side

Imagine paying premium money, and not getting to keep it forever. Then it's really like leasing/renting. Needing to renew every few decades, passing on that burden to the next generation. It's like getting a PR vs a permit to stay that has to be renewed at fixed intervals.



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post Apr 17 2023, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(IronManz @ Apr 17 2023, 03:14 PM)
Come back to the light side

Imagine paying premium money, and not getting to keep it forever.  Then it's really like leasing/renting.  Needing to renew every few decades, passing on that burden to the next generation.  It's like getting a PR vs a permit to stay that has to be renewed at fixed intervals.
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Thats when u weight in the pros n cons

Plus when 99 years LH ends ur grandchil dont even rmb ur name, the old smelly house they also dont want adi
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QUOTE(IronManz @ Apr 17 2023, 07:02 PM)
Thanks for your personal sharing, Longshot.  Given someone more adventurous, your suggestion is worth thinking about, to get the location and the nearby park.  But I don't have the energy now to oversea overhauling the interior of subsale units.
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Boss,
You seems to believe that getting a brand new house will have less renovation works, while getting subsale will be alot of work.

Sorry, that unfortunately is not always true.
Sometimes a subsale unit condition can be better than a new unit bcos the owners have spend alot in the renovations and used premium construction materials. Depending on if the unit is vacant, if yes, you can actually pay for an inspection to be done to verify the condition of the house before finalizing the purchase. And if you are okay with some of the fixture and lightings, you can even reuse them of just change the lights to ur taste. Air cond. can buy new ones to replace the old ones if you don't want to service them.

However, you can't do that for a new development. And a newly VP unit doesn't mean no defects or renovation required. Sometimes it is better not to move in until certain defects are rectified as it will be easier to clean an empty unit. Meaning months of installments but can't move in or start reno. You still need to do your lighting, curtains, wardrobe, tv cabinets, piping, praying area etc maybe even rewiring for additional points and electrical appliances.

Finding ur own place and making it your own, takes efforts, alot of it. More than you think. Some ppl even rent a place they shortlisted just to experience it if they like the area, the community and the overall location.

Like you say, it's for life.
Of course you have to put ur back into it 😅

Happy hunting...ya

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Apr 17 2023, 07:19 PM)
Thats when u weight in the pros n cons

Plus when 99 years LH ends ur grandchil dont even rmb ur name, the old smelly house they also dont want adi
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LH may not be a concern to you but will it be a concern to your buyers when you want to exit?
Same goes with HTC, many say no issue but when it comes to selling time, buyers are immediately turn off once they see it.

And you or your children or grandchildren may 1day need to exit i.e. Sell for whatever's reason. Even if they don't like the old smelly house, they definitely like the value. Give me foc an old run down FH single storey house in TTDI or Bangsar, I'll love you from the bottom of my heart.

Many think this is their last purchase but unfortunately it is often not the case as forrest Gump say, "life is like a box of chocolate....ya"

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Apr 17 2023, 05:00 PM)
LH may not be a concern to you but will it be a concern to your buyers when you want to exit?
Same goes with HTC, many say no issue but when it comes to selling time, buyers are immediately turn off once they see it.

And you or your children or grandchildren may 1day need to exit i.e. Sell for whatever's reason. Even if they don't like the old smelly house, they definitely like the value. Give me foc an old run down FH single storey house in TTDI or Bangsar, I'll love you from the bottom of my heart.

Many think this is their last purchase but unfortunately it is often not the case as forrest Gump say, "life is like a box of chocolate....ya"
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Correct

So please do own DD and make own conclusion

Cannot compare landed

Landed in bangsar leasehold also can sell sky price

We are comparing high rise

Investors only will look at roi of rental/ capital appreciation
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post Apr 17 2023, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Apr 17 2023, 09:05 PM)
Correct

So please do own DD and make own conclusion

Cannot compare landed

Landed in bangsar leasehold also can sell sky price

We are comparing high rise

Investors only will look at roi of rental/ capital appreciation
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What is DD?

Notice how the marketing people have been beautifying the names of different areas.
Bangsar South, Cyber West, North Kiara, original names no more,
our world is becoming a much prettier sounding place now
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post Apr 17 2023, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Apr 17 2023, 09:00 PM)
LH may not be a concern to you but will it be a concern to your buyers when you want to exit?
Same goes with HTC, many say no issue but when it comes to selling time, buyers are immediately turn off once they see it.

And you or your children or grandchildren may 1day need to exit i.e. Sell for whatever's reason. Even if they don't like the old smelly house, they definitely like the value. Give me foc an old run down FH single storey house in TTDI or Bangsar, I'll love you from the bottom of my heart.

Many think this is their last purchase but unfortunately it is often not the case as forrest Gump say, "life is like a box of chocolate....ya"
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Valid points. I don't mind that they don't know me or know my name, still good to die knowing that I left them something so they have some financial support to do what they'd like to do but would otherwise not have the financial means to do so. They can sell my old freehold property.
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Apr 17 2023, 08:44 PM)
Boss,
You seems to believe that getting a brand new house will have less renovation works, while getting subsale will be alot of work.

Sorry, that unfortunately is not always true.
Sometimes a subsale unit condition can be better than a new unit bcos the owners have spend alot in the renovations and used premium construction materials. Depending on if the unit is vacant, if yes, you can actually pay for an inspection to be done to verify the condition of the house before finalizing the purchase. And if you are okay with some of the fixture and lightings, you can even reuse them of just change the lights to ur taste. Air cond. can buy new ones to replace the old ones if you don't want to service them.

However, you can't do that for a new development. And a newly VP unit doesn't mean no defects or renovation required. Sometimes it is better not to move in until certain defects are rectified as it will be easier to clean an empty unit. Meaning months of installments but can't move in or start reno. You still need to do your lighting, curtains, wardrobe, tv cabinets, piping, praying area etc maybe even rewiring for additional points and electrical appliances.

Finding ur own place and making it your own, takes efforts, alot of it. More than you think. Some ppl even rent a place they shortlisted just to experience it if they like the area, the community and the overall location.

Like you say, it's for life.
Of course you have to put ur back into it 😅

Happy hunting...ya
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Noted on your points. True that still have to do the lighting and internal fittings. I was meaning more on the major overhauls

Each to his own


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post Apr 17 2023, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Apr 17 2023, 09:00 PM)
LH may not be a concern to you but will it be a concern to your buyers when you want to exit?
Same goes with HTC, many say no issue but when it comes to selling time, buyers are immediately turn off once they see it.

And you or your children or grandchildren may 1day need to exit i.e. Sell for whatever's reason. Even if they don't like the old smelly house, they definitely like the value. Give me foc an old run down FH single storey house in TTDI or Bangsar, I'll love you from the bottom of my heart.

Many think this is their last purchase but unfortunately it is often not the case as forrest Gump say, "life is like a box of chocolate....ya"
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you speak so direct will hurt all those leasehold is the same people in this subforum.
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post Apr 18 2023, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Apr 17 2023, 10:56 PM)
you speak so direct will hurt all those leasehold is the same people in this subforum.
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I better 🙊🙊🙊
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Apr 17 2023, 09:05 PM)
Correct

So please do own DD and make own conclusion

Cannot compare landed

Landed in bangsar leasehold also can sell sky price

We are comparing high rise

Investors only will look at roi of rental/ capital appreciation
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Agree, a 50 years FH condo vs a 50 years LH single storey, I doubt many will choose the condo over the single storey biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Apr 17 2023, 01:30 PM)
Hi Boss,
Just came across my mind, thought I share.
Must it be brand new development?
What's your budget and how many occupants?

If you are considering non landed in PH or Subang Jaya, you might want to take a look at Sri Bayu Condominium in USJ 11.
Median price is around RM480psf with build up around 13xxsqf. Not sure the smaller 1100 sqf is available.
This condo is quite old but it's pretty well maintained and density is low compare to these days new launch. Size is pretty optimum, not too big and not too small. Think the 2 blocks just had a new coat of paint a few years back. Bear in mind the low rise block of 3 storey high I think is a walk up. Can't recall all the details of the condo units as it was many moons ago since I did the research.

In front of the Condo is the huge USJ 11 Park, I think the park is around 6 acres and is 1 of the most popular park for the USJ residents. In the evening can get pretty crowded with lots of car parking on both side of the road.

A short walk about 500 meters to usj11/3 and you will find 2 rows of shops for your groceries need. There is a wet market there every week but I can't recall which day of the week it is. If you want more choices, a short drive (approx 2 to 3 minutes, excluding time to find parking..ya) to Taipan commercial and you will have almost everything.

The condo is surrounded by landed dslh and the park in front, so basically nothing is going to block your view and is a distance away from any highway or HTC. It is also not facing any big main road and is full residential title. So no outsider or commi going to be inside the condo.

However, do note you'll need to spend some money to do up the interior of the unit, including wiring and piping. Flooring, kitchen and wardrobe all depends on the condition of the unit but it should be much lesser issue compare to a landed.

Between this and Tropika Paradise, I think this is more worth it but Tropika Paradise do have the advantage of direct link to LRT station. Again, it depends on what you are looking for or prioritize.

While these old condo may not look appealing, they are normally way more practical with lesser fancy facilities and way lower density. Developer just won't build such low density project anymore unless they can have ur kidneys, arms, legs and maybe even liver.

Another point to note is such property has a record already. Valuation is there and it won't vary much unless there is a force sale which is very unlikely. A new development won't have historical data, so the valuation is subjective and all u need is a few desperate owners throwing prices upon VP and you'll see your unit price going down before your 1st defect is fixed. You may feel it doesn't affect you since ownstay but you never know when you need to exit. Property is not only for ownstay but is also a form of capital preservation. You don't want your lifesaving going downhill as you age older.

Happy hunting...ya
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good point on the sri bayu condo...cant find much listing on mudah on it too

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