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TSdamnguy36
post Dec 21 2022, 02:54 PM, updated 3y ago

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been eyeing BMW X5 or MerZ GLC used car but really scare see many user and youtuber showing all the maintenance spare part changing that cost thousands of ringgit.

been surveying rm200k , and found this 2020 harrier UX80 model,

any owner here can give input, usually when get recond unit that 20k milage , hows the car servicing outside??? or follow the recommended from the car dealer in house center??


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post Dec 21 2022, 03:21 PM

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First rule. Forget about the mileage. Used car especially recond 99% is fake. Go get it check and if you see satisfy get it.
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post Dec 21 2022, 03:25 PM

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Toyota servicing everywhere same only.

Agreed with the statement above, forget the mileage, once in your hands, go 1st round maintenance change all the lubes and oil - yes flush it all and put in new.

Then you can follow the servicing schedule with your regular mech.
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post Dec 21 2022, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Dec 21 2022, 02:54 PM)
been eyeing BMW X5 or MerZ GLC used car but  really scare see many user and youtuber showing all the maintenance spare part changing that cost thousands of ringgit.

been surveying rm200k , and found this 2020 harrier UX80 model,

any owner here can give input, usually when get recond unit that 20k milage , hows the car servicing outside??? or follow the recommended from the car dealer in house center??
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For recond units, make sure u get the auction report and double check it with online platforms such as scrut, recond.my, autopatrul or car vx. If the mileage is way off, then move on.

For servicing, being a Toyota, any reputable workshop can do. Or simply just send to Toyota sc for servicing.
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post Dec 22 2022, 09:42 AM

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If i got 200k and can accept recon/used, i would direct look for Lexus already bro.. Direct aim for Lexus RX200t/270/300.. Why still aim for lower grade Toyota.. LOL
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post Dec 22 2022, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 22 2022, 09:42 AM)
If i got 200k and can accept recon/used, i would direct look for Lexus already bro.. Direct aim for Lexus RX200t/270/300.. Why still aim for lower grade Toyota.. LOL
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well bro lexus RX series recond over 300k , NX also start around 250k , LOL that u LOL
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post Dec 22 2022, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(kirakun @ Dec 21 2022, 10:13 PM)
For recond units, make sure u get the auction report and double check it with online platforms such as scrut, recond.my, autopatrul or car vx. If the mileage is way off, then move on.

For servicing, being a Toyota, any reputable workshop can do. Or simply just send to Toyota sc for servicing.
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did TOYATA SC now accept ?? cause last time i heard they reject JDM form their SC
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post Dec 22 2022, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Dec 22 2022, 04:22 PM)
did TOYATA SC now accept ?? cause last time i heard they reject JDM form their SC
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Where u heard it from? Source? Link? No such issue for servicing at Toyota sc.
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post Dec 22 2022, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Dec 22 2022, 05:21 PM)
well bro lexus RX series recond over 300k , NX also start around 250k , LOL that u LOL
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You can get lower than that if you don't choose such a new car. Lexus car even 5 years above also less issue. The interior & chassis feel is more luxury & comfort compared to Toyota alike unless you went for GR spec. or F-Sport than different story.

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post Dec 22 2022, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Dec 22 2022, 04:22 PM)
did TOYATA SC now accept ?? cause last time i heard they reject JDM form their SC
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QUOTE(kirakun @ Dec 22 2022, 04:54 PM)
Where u heard it from? Source? Link? No such issue for servicing at Toyota sc.
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I believe Toyota SCs are not allowed to service grey import vehicles
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post Dec 22 2022, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(nottherealme @ Dec 21 2022, 04:21 PM)
First rule. Forget about the mileage. Used car especially recond 99% is fake. Go get it check and if you see satisfy get it.
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U can't fake Japanese inspection sheet...
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post Dec 23 2022, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Dec 22 2022, 11:29 PM)
U can't fake Japanese inspection sheet...
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Bro I have been dealing with recon cars for as long as I could remember. So whatever you think about the inspection sheet, think again. Mileage on most recon Japanese cars is total bs.
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QUOTE(nottherealme @ Dec 23 2022, 01:04 AM)
Bro I have been dealing with recon cars for as long as I could remember. So whatever you think about the inspection sheet, think again. Mileage on most recon Japanese cars is total bs.
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R u saying that inspection sheet is fake?
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post Dec 23 2022, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 22 2022, 05:58 PM)
You can get lower than that if you don't choose such a new car. Lexus car even 5 years above also less issue. The interior & chassis feel is more luxury & comfort compared to Toyota alike unless you went for GR spec. or F-Sport than different story.
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5 years above mean not recond , u either get recond 2nd hand or used car, and the interest will be higher buying used,

and i dont like the interior already staart aging even for lexus for the car 7-8 years
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post Dec 23 2022, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(kirakun @ Dec 22 2022, 04:54 PM)
Where u heard it from? Source? Link? No such issue for servicing at Toyota sc.
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well u just google then u found out, i dont know now but last time really all JDM toyota wouldn't service it
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post Dec 23 2022, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(nottherealme @ Dec 23 2022, 12:04 AM)
Bro I have been dealing with recon cars for as long as I could remember. So whatever you think about the inspection sheet, think again. Mileage on most recon Japanese cars is total bs.
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thats why aim for 2020 harrier, as this model its new, and mileage at least the risk will be lower compare to 4-5 years car
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post Dec 23 2022, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Dec 22 2022, 11:26 PM)
I believe Toyota SCs are not allowed to service grey import vehicles
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Depending on circumstances, can biggrin.gif

For the most part, i would say yes, can also.
Obviously you'll be at the lowest priority, but it isn't outright no.

Case in point, my recond GT86 went through an engine valve spring recall exercise through UMWT smile.gif
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post Dec 23 2022, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Dec 22 2022, 11:29 PM)
U can't fake Japanese inspection sheet...
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Japanese can't/won't

Doesn't mean non Japanese can't/won't.

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 23 2022, 02:38 AM)
Japanese can't/won't

Doesn't mean non Japanese can't/won't.

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Lol..get the original copy from Japanese lo..
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post Dec 23 2022, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 23 2022, 02:37 AM)
Depending on circumstances, can biggrin.gif

For the most part, i would say yes, can also.
Obviously you'll be at the lowest priority, but it isn't outright no.

Case in point, my recond GT86 went through an engine valve spring recall exercise through UMWT smile.gif
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Same like honda. If is a global recall, the SC will help to change. For servicing though, can only walk in and be at lower priority.
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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Dec 23 2022, 12:44 AM)
well u just google then u found out, i dont know now but last time really all JDM toyota wouldn't service it
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I have no issues servicing my recon cars at Toyota sc before. Am I the only 1? I don’t think so.

But I don’t really recommend as the charges at the sc are much higher not to mention the long waiting time. But until u find your reputable workshop, sc is a good option. Anyway whatever that gets your ball to roll mate.

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post Dec 23 2022, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 23 2022, 01:37 AM)
Depending on circumstances, can biggrin.gif

For the most part, i would say yes, can also.
Obviously you'll be at the lowest priority, but it isn't outright no.

Case in point, my recond GT86 went through an engine valve spring recall exercise through UMWT smile.gif
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Ooooh I didn't know that at all! I just confirmed with a credible source and yes, apparently they are allowed to service grey imports starting from 2017.

QUOTE(overfloe @ Dec 23 2022, 09:39 AM)
Same like honda. If is a global recall, the SC will help to change. For servicing though, can only walk in and be at lower priority.
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Interesting... is this from a personal experience or hearsay? I believe they are not allowed to service grey imports, and for recalls, they will not have these vehicles' vin codes in the system.
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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Dec 23 2022, 09:26 PM)
Ooooh I didn't know that at all! I just confirmed with a credible source and yes, apparently they are allowed to service grey imports starting from 2017.
Interesting... is this from a personal experience or hearsay? I believe they are not allowed to service grey imports, and for recalls, they will not have these vehicles' vin codes in the system.
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personal. it was an airbag recall. but it was like more than 8 years ago.
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post Dec 25 2022, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Dec 23 2022, 08:26 PM)
Ooooh I didn't know that at all! I just confirmed with a credible source and yes, apparently they are allowed to service grey imports starting from 2017.
Interesting... is this from a personal experience or hearsay? I believe they are not allowed to service grey imports, and for recalls, they will not have these vehicles' vin codes in the system.
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Toyota SC did service grey import.
Just reset & service recond harrier aircon last year
good service, I can said
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post Dec 27 2022, 08:50 AM

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Yes, Toyota SC can service grey imports and even other car brands. It is up to the service personal want to accept or not.
A lot of their own technicians cars from different brand also do servicing in-house, i got technician friends working in Nissan & Mazda SC do servicing for other car brand like Suzuki & Toyota also. If no more warranty concern, they can accept any car brand also if they want. laugh.gif

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post Dec 27 2022, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 27 2022, 08:50 AM)
Yes, Toyota SC can service grey imports and even other car brands. It is up to the service personal want to accept or not.
A lot of their own technicians cars from different brand also do servicing in-house, i got technician friends working in Nissan & Mazda SC do servicing for other car brand like Suzuki & Toyota also. If no more warranty concern, they can accept any car brand also if they want.  laugh.gif
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oic just like any other 3rd party service center, thanks for the info bro
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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Dec 21 2022, 02:54 PM)
been eyeing BMW X5 or MerZ GLC used car but  really scare see many user and youtuber showing all the maintenance spare part changing that cost thousands of ringgit.

been surveying rm200k , and found this 2020 harrier UX80 model,

any owner here can give input, usually when get recond unit that 20k milage , hows the car servicing outside??? or follow the recommended from the car dealer in house center??
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So TS have u bought your model XU80 harrier? Spec G or Z?
The 2.0 na dynamic force engine will feel underpower? Especially uphill

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I am the Chairman on the Board of Directors of one the world's largest motor corporation in the world. What kind of rumours is these that our cars produced on a worldwide basis, just because its listed as a grey import, it is refused service at our Service Center ?
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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Dec 21 2022, 02:54 PM)
been eyeing BMW X5 or MerZ GLC used car but  really scare see many user and youtuber showing all the maintenance spare part changing that cost thousands of ringgit.

been surveying rm200k , and found this 2020 harrier UX80 model,

any owner here can give input, usually when get recond unit that 20k milage , hows the car servicing outside??? or follow the recommended from the car dealer in house center??
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you mean XU80 (gen 4 harrier)?

it uses the dynamic force engine (M20A-FKS) which is also used in the Camry (MXVA71), Lexus ES 200 (MXZA10), Innova/Kijang Innova Zenix (MAGA10), and Noah/Voxy/Suzuki Landy (MZRA90/95) aka Baby Vellfire/Alphard.

As you can see from the list above the engine is used in many common UMW and imported Toyota/Lexus on our roads, no need to worry about spare parts
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 2 2023, 09:35 PM)
I am the Chairman on the Board of Directors of one the world's largest motor corporation in the world. What kind of rumours is these that our cars produced on a worldwide basis, just because its listed as a grey import, it is refused service at our Service Center ?
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Mr Chairman,
Any idea why Toyota is not locally assembling Harrier considering that the demand is high and so popular here in Malaysia? If iyts locally assemble, the cost and taxes can be brought down lower. Isnt that wonderful for both buyer and manufacturer?
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QUOTE(barrywcb @ Jul 13 2023, 08:30 PM)
Mr Chairman,
Any idea why Toyota is not locally assembling Harrier considering that the demand is high and so popular here in Malaysia? If iyts locally assemble, the cost and taxes  can be brought down lower. Isnt that wonderful for both buyer and manufacturer?
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I drive a XU80 (non recond). The reason I got it was because it’s assembled in Japan.
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QUOTE(barrywcb @ Jul 13 2023, 08:30 PM)
Mr Chairman,
Any idea why Toyota is not locally assembling Harrier considering that the demand is high and so popular here in Malaysia? If iyts locally assemble, the cost and taxes  can be brought down lower. Isnt that wonderful for both buyer and manufacturer?
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If Malaysia is indeed a High Income Nation as alleged by politicians, yeah why not ? Until we see sales figures for Harriers like that of Perodua Axia numbers etc, its all about economies of scale and profitability.
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QUOTE(dev/numb @ Jul 13 2023, 09:21 PM)
I drive a XU80 (non recond). The reason I got it was because it’s assembled in Japan.
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We have been trying to shake off the quality perception that assembled in Japan is always far superior to those from assembly plants located in various parts of the world but we can't. I think the main problem is our Japanese workforce are way to dedicated in their work as compared to compatriots from other parts of the world.
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jul 13 2023, 09:31 PM)
If Malaysia is indeed a High Income Nation as alleged by politicians, yeah why not ? Until we see sales figures for Harriers like that of Perodua Axia numbers etc, its all about economies of scale and profitability.
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Relative booked harrier, 2 months ago.
Toyota said estimate delivery is next February. Wonder is it because low sales, so they not prioritize Msia.
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QUOTE(buffa @ Jul 15 2023, 12:15 PM)
Relative booked harrier, 2 months ago.
Toyota said estimate delivery is next February. Wonder is it because low sales, so they not prioritize Msia.
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Malaysia getting smaller batches of the lowest tier model (2.0 Petrol) because they’re prioritizing markets like SG and Taiwan where the 2.5 Hybrid is selling well. Toyota literally cannot build enough to satisfy demand. SG waiting list is 1.5yrs and Toyota SG already suspended new orders. In Malaysia, at least 1/3 of each Harrier shipment from Japan is being reserved for Kinto leasing (mostly to companies). Source: I’m one of those Kinto subscribers. As for why we don’t get the more expensive 2.5 Hybrid, blame UMW. I suspect UMW are trying to protect the Lexus NX line because the top spec Harrier XU80 would be very close to entry level NX200 pricing.

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Any idea whether lexus also allow recon car to be serviced at their sc? Eyeing on IS300 but worried about the regular maintenance part.
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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Dec 22 2022, 11:26 PM)
I believe Toyota SCs are not allowed to service grey import vehicles
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Nonsense. All Toyota SCs want money. They never reject any recond cars now and never have.
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QUOTE(muok @ Jul 15 2023, 02:40 PM)
Nonsense. All Toyota SCs want money. They never reject any recond cars now and never have.
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Yes, as stated in one of my post earlier, I was not aware and have corrected it. But this policy was only put in place from 2017.


QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Dec 23 2022, 08:26 PM)
Ooooh I didn't know that at all! I just confirmed with a credible source and yes, apparently they are allowed to service grey imports starting from 2017.
Interesting... is this from a personal experience or hearsay? I believe they are not allowed to service grey imports, and for recalls, they will not have these vehicles' vin codes in the system.
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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Jul 18 2023, 11:12 AM)
Yes, as stated in one of my post earlier, I was not aware and have corrected it. But this policy was only put in place from 2017.
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Sorry, I didn't notice I was replying to an old thread. Haha. But it has been their policy even before 2017. My friend had an old recon estima with malfunctioning side doors back in 2012 and Toyota SC took it in and fixed it for him.
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QUOTE(muok @ Jul 18 2023, 01:47 PM)
Sorry, I didn't notice I was replying to an old thread. Haha. But it has been their policy even before 2017. My friend had an old recon estima with malfunctioning side doors back in 2012 and Toyota SC took it in and fixed it for him.
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It's great that your friend managed to get it fixed but I'm just sharing what's been told to me from my colleagues who jumped from T since I'm in a competitor principal haha. rclxub.gif
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Prices of UMW Harrier here is ridiculous.
It is more expensive than a basic Lexus RX RX350h Luxury 2.5L SUV FWD Hybrid!

BTW how good are RECON Harriers?

What do you need to check when buying RECON Harriers?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 9 2024, 10:02 AM)
Prices of UMW Harrier here is ridiculous.
It is more expensive than a basic Lexus RX RX350h Luxury 2.5L SUV FWD Hybrid! 

BTW how good are RECON Harriers?

What do you need to check when buying RECON Harriers?
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Simple said, recon harriers are not worth to buy nowadays. Rather direct upgrade to Lexus.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 9 2024, 01:48 PM)
Simple said, recon harriers are not worth to buy nowadays. Rather direct upgrade to Lexus.
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Lexus is alot more expensive.
i rather buy a Lexus in Oz. So much cheaper and nicer roads to run the car. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 9 2024, 02:49 PM)
Lexus is alot more expensive.
i rather buy a Lexus in Oz. So much cheaper and nicer roads to run the car.  biggrin.gif
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Recon price not much difference, if you can afford 200k above, 50~100k difference is nothing if you borrow loan.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 9 2024, 01:52 PM)
Recon price not much difference, if you can afford 200k above, 50~100k difference is nothing if you borrow loan.
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That's how people get into deep debt shite. laugh.gif
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this 2.0 na is underpower on daily drive
need to engage sport mode just to feel abit better


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 9 2024, 02:54 PM)
That's how people get into deep debt shite.  laugh.gif
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Rich people take loan to turn around and make more money. Majority of them, not taking loan is stupid.
Usually they use other people money to earn and not their own money.

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 9 2024, 01:57 PM)
Rich people take loan to turn around and make more money. Majority of them, not taking loan is stupid.
Usually they use other people money to earn and not their own money.
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AGREED!

In this case, you are borrowing money to buy a depreciating asset. Won't get rich like that.
The rich may buy a 200k car and use the 50 to 100k for investing.
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I wonder if TS bought the harrier?

BTW I'm looking at one myself and been comparing with the 2022 Toyota camry, with the dynamic force 2.5l

Kinda torn which one would be better definitely both had its pros n cons. Want to get some view if anyone has own either cars
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Mar 1 2025, 10:11 AM)
I wonder if TS bought the harrier?

BTW I'm looking at one myself and been comparing with the 2022 Toyota camry, with the dynamic force 2.5l

Kinda torn which one would be better definitely both had its pros n cons. Want to get some view if anyone has own either cars
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For sure camry lots better
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Mar 1 2025, 10:11 AM)
I wonder if TS bought the harrier?

BTW I'm looking at one myself and been comparing with the 2022 Toyota camry, with the dynamic force 2.5l

Kinda torn which one would be better definitely both had its pros n cons. Want to get some view if anyone has own either cars
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I also think harrier recond and camry facelift...

U decided?
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assuming year made is 2018 to 2020
na + k-cvt (sub 100k) or a turbo + 6at (150k+-)?

am surveying for a suv that can last at least a decade (probably wont even buy another car soon), have a balance between fuel efficiency and power (in case i need some extra power and not hurt the gearbox if i press the gas too much), and a big boot space....ended up eyeing the harrier turbo

plus D segment suv tend to be more durable...right?

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QUOTE(nottherealme @ Dec 21 2022, 03:21 PM)
First rule. Forget about the mileage. Used car especially recond 99% is fake. Go get it check and if you see satisfy get it.
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Need to check thru scrut?
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post Mar 8 2025, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(xSean @ Mar 2 2025, 12:08 PM)
I also think harrier recond and camry facelift...

U decided?
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Not yet, wife prefer suv. I'm OK with both

But the camry seems like a better deal
SUSMr Mercedes
post Mar 8 2025, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(damnguy36 @ Dec 22 2022, 04:21 PM)
well bro lexus RX series recond over 300k , NX also start around 250k , LOL that u LOL
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Previous gen recond can get around 200k ish
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post Mar 9 2025, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(JC999 @ Mar 8 2025, 09:46 AM)
Not yet, wife prefer suv. I'm OK with both

But the camry seems like a better deal
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Camry would be the best choice especially 2.5v
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post Mar 11 2025, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Mar 8 2025, 01:37 PM)
Previous gen recond can get around 200k ish
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Alot cheaper this year for previous gen NX/RX, seems like good buy but it's an older chassis and platform
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post Mar 18 2025, 10:37 PM

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Toyota very reliable car, you won't go wrong with it
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