How does average doctor of age 35yo and above earn? Easily RM 20k above?

Just want to know doctor earn a lot issit a myth or not

Exclude those specialist that is very famous and/or placed in high class and prestigious private hospital like Sunway/Sime Darby

This post has been edited by covidhost: Dec 12 2022, 03:42 PM

interested to know locum earn how much per hour?

seldom see clinics tapao bankrupt, even very little customers.

Yes, look at our Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad

My doc friend used to earn around RM350/hr back in 2011 at a small private hosp in Ipoh.

quite recently i heard from another doctor friend the rate is still the same however in a private clinic.

Can be minister, no problem

habis tu doktor apa yang ts maksudkan?

15 years exp doctor in Gov hosp around RM8k + some allowances, this was back in 2011. same doctor is now deputy HOD in one of the gov clinics now, not sure how much he earning now. He chose not to specialise so deputy is the highest he can go, no2 to the specialist.

He used to do part time locum at rm350/hr

i been observe clinic in my taman, 5-15 minutes per customer for normal fever or cough, RM50-70, you do the math..

not yet plus those checkup or follow up.

wonder how frequent per month. if just a few hours a month also no point.

Non specialist can become hospital directors. Now KKM don't want specialist to become hospital directors

not much.

employed by small clinic about 8k to 9k

self owned clinic , salary is minus rent and staff pay . about the same.
need volume .

anyway , once be doctor , priority is saving life and pain management .

want money , need to be enterprising like trade or business .

its a myth
doctor dont earn a lot
want to be rich go do business

Doctor got license see and examine nenen.

I want to study hard and become one

many industry is making rm10k above 30 and making rm20k above 40years old.

but why?

because then will be lack of specialists?

someone i know

locum night shift RM700/day - 11PM ~ 7AM

10 days work = RM7k
30 days work = RM21k

/k standard easy

kek

many doctors only taking leave like 1 week per year, apart from every sunday rest.

what is the point when you making millions a year when you dont even have time to spend it.

I guess that's why.

Except for those who specialize in public heath.

This post has been edited by tupai: Dec 12 2022, 04:28 PM

dupe siapa ni

actually that explain why some doc become politician , comedian , etc

Not say rich…

But mighty comfortable iron ricebowl.

3 of my siblings all gomen Doctor.

2 of them specialist.

They never reveal their celery.

But i knew a specialist once in putrajaya before.

He inform me gross all in around rm12k per mth.

My 3 siblings drive a comfortable non national car but no >200k vehicle…

1 Living in a 2 storey landed. Another 1 storey bungalow with good size land in a very small town in perak. The 3rd one 3 storey semi D or superlink in Ipoh town i cant remember.

Only if ur daddykasi doctor. Daddykasi clinic.

If no daddykasi. Even though can earn more but can see them like no life. Dating find partner also same hospital

Doctor can earn a comfortable living but cannot be rich

Still trading time and energy to earn money

Want more money have to locum even on off days

Yes. On average yes. Specialist even up to 6 figures. Surgeons make the most, anaesthesiologist not far behind. Estheticians (don't have to be a specialist also, after houseman also jadi edi) can make close to 20k.

need to be specialist to earn alot la
n u need many year just to become doctor eh
expect around 28 ~29 year old baru become license doctor n salary just 5k ish
need higher education become specialists then money come fast

Similar to all other trade, individual is expected to improve it skills set. By 40yo, it should be a specialist or general doctor with niche skills. Rm20k is definitely doable.

But if 35yo still cannot do sharp assessment, obviously limited return customer ya. so rm20k maybe challenging

Lesson of the story. it is about how fast u learn, not how old u r!

yes if ..IF he/she made it through all the way

BTW, pass the house manship first, and then see if you can progress to specialist

Ayam bet chance is less than 1 in 10 for med grads

Cough cough *mc cough ocean

no need talk salary la

its the power !

whole ward under you, all the nurses and junior MO under you etc

jusa level get a car etc

hard work but comfortable life

want rich have to gamble open own biz, and grow really big

Big money is in the private sector. At their prime, it is not unheard of for surgeons to draw 6-7 figures monthly.

Gov rate at klinik or green zone emergency 80/h. If in private clinics around 40-50/hour only. Maybe can get extra incentive if blood taking, rtk/pcr or doing other procedures.

No rich one.

U only reach 54 after 10 years with 11k where 2-3k deduction. By that time u already had house loan that cut another 3k and an old car. At the end u only managed to bring home 5-6k.

Locum rate is still 40 ringgit per hour. Even labour charge mechanics now cost rm100 per hour.

During covid when people hide at home, doctors can't hide have to fight in Frontline overtime. High pay and also high risk.

If open clinic, you can get rich if your clinic get contract for panel with large companies

This post has been edited by killdavid: Dec 12 2022, 05:04 PM

Covid is a once in a lifetime thing. Doctors have been "enjoying" nice safe jobs for decades. The high pay is because for some doctors, they are literally holding their patients lives in their hands. No problem if everything goes well. But everyone farks up sometimes.

my college friend parents are specialist, quite well off
but i wont say its the only career path that pays that well, as long as you're a specialist in your industry I'll say the difference in pay is negligible

just to add extra color.
took my dad to visit a cardiologist (not surgeon)...
waited like 4 hours cos we were late. during the 4 hours, the number of patients were like 20 persons. My dad was pretty much the last patient. Each patient is being charged like 100 to 200 on average. So that is 4K per day at least. x 20 days say, so that works out 80K rm at least.
(the nurse/helper to the doc explained that usually the mornings are very busy. Afternoon would be freer and that is when the doctors go do their rounds)
This is just visits... did not include their ops. Those would be extra income.

If you are close friends with the nurse, you can ask about the salary of the doctor

You prefer more power over high salary?

You guys seem to forget one thing. Alot of those gps you see lari tax cuz most patients pay cash. I know a doctor in Kuching gets his nurses to calculate cash collection every week end with cctv room. I know this because I hired that said nurse. Lol.

On paper they make 10k clean minus clinic operations and staff gaji but can bring in nearly additional 20k clean cash tax free. Double if husband wife combo that works morn to night

Specialist attached to hospitals hard to lari that's why most specialist will do locum/consults in clinics that accept cash then refer bck to hospital for ops

This post has been edited by Avangelice: Dec 12 2022, 05:27 PM

80k to the hospital but how much of it goes to the doctor?

you want money, you leave the govt sector la , easy.

many did , but remember, you go out, you under some tauke doctor in a medical center.

you need to answer to them etc

maybe those in the industry can share more.

haha... no lar... the nurse very smart and don't really want to say much. i just simply talk a bit with her.

This is private hospital... the doctor consultation fee goes directly to the doctor (I guess that is why they are called consultants). the hospital gets nothing from that.

the hospital makes money from all the tests, medicine sold, operation costs, etc.

doctors got expenditures of course. the highest usually is insurance.
(btw, that 80K was just my estimate of normal patient visits/follow up fees. Does not include operation fees that we always read about how much is being charged)

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Dec 12 2022, 05:38 PM

Ah yes... most of the normal clinic take cash only or touchgo ewallet under doctor name, kuat lari taxxx

This post has been edited by wong_86: Dec 12 2022, 05:36 PM

interesting... no wonder i heard some of the doctors will tell their patients that they can do follow up at their private practices. Apparently its quite normal and patients gladly go to the clinics as it is cheaper.

Speciallist upwards of 150k per month. Verified by banker, verified by own eyes judging by queue per day X consultation fees.

Malaysianpaygap

So every normal doctor visit, no need pay nurses (or maybe 5 bucks)? Doctor get free consultation room in the hospital?

For those who stay in government at the age of 35 yo their grade around 48-52. 10k++

If they doing locum outside can get another 3-4k

If they join private as MO, averange around 15k++

So yeah still below /k standard salary

Consultan fees quite reasonable for private, example KPJ first time visit 250, followup 100-105, but the blood test, ECG test etc , medicine , really cut throat...

How is 15k as a GP high. U see in /k any tom dikc harry 30s also earning 15k n above....

Think need to hit 40s as specialist in private to earn big bucks.

Not in the profession, so just my observation.

12k considered a lot meh?

Mine 48 still less than 10k bro. Where got 10k. Haha. But if join private gp need to work till 9-10pm, almost 12 hours

gp can earn alot of money if your clinic is the most popular one in your own taman.

i saw one clinic nearby my house everyday also queue like specialist but is only normal GP. i wonder so many ppl sick meh in this area

I easily get 31 Million per month.

























































































....in Rupiah.

Big money is in specialists and surgery. High risk, high reward. GP is like glorified office workers or managers. Although RM15k iron rice bowl is already very good liao. /k 20k is not iron rice bowl.

Here's the answer:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5276222

10 pages for u to judge


This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Dec 12 2022, 06:08 PM

There is two type of doctor, those who treat u is the poor one. Those doc who act like saleman earn big buck.

no lar... the nurses should be full time staffs of the hospital...

consultation room... this one a old classmate of mine who became a doctor explained before. If the doc is very famous (ie brings in a lot of patients), the room rental is almost free.

the hospital makes a lot of money from just marking up the medicine.
First time I didn't realize so I bought 1 week worth of medicine for my dad from the hospital pharmacy. it came out to be almost 500rm.
I went to outside pharmacy to purchase the same 1 week worth. 100rm thereabout.

the hospital don't need to "tax" the doctors at all with this kind of margin.

be mahathir.... power and wealth... haha.

i wonder how long can he live.....

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2009...eath-court-told

yeah high risk indeed, one such case then i think your reputation gone for good

i wondr how much plastic surgeon earn

Ipoh house cheaper than KL/PJ

Doctors so noble and honest. Where got do lari tax?

bankers are honest and trustworthy too...
so are monks and priests and imans...

and blacks cannot be racists...

The nurse part don't really make sense to me. I go specialist visit, maybe 100 bucks, and 5 bucks for medical record update. If the whole 100 bucks goes to doctor, hospital doesn't earn anything, if say there's no medication or other services.

Dont recommend see gp esp those chain or newly established

Nowadays gp flooded with covid era doctors. They dont learn much. Covid time cant touch patient bec contract etc.

Most wasted 2 years learn only how to copy paste friend review (also can copy salah sometimes). Then come out quit gov be gp.

Give standard meds that doesn't help much.

Some established ones... Too business minded. 1 URTI normal flu can prescribe 8 to 9 medications. Also persuasive force u do RTK, flu swab, etc follow up flu vaccines.

Same soon will follow aesthetic. Many covid era loktor come out just pay a few k to go course. Then self label aesthetic physician and flower own name what AAAM qualification topkek

Go 1 course and self label 1 title. Botox filler course, write advertisement can do this. Go 10 courses write 10 qualification. Facebook advert 99 lol.

Depends la. Ada clinic earn 150k to 200k per month oi. Tolak overhead 75k. Thats per clinic

This post has been edited by FrostLance: Dec 12 2022, 07:11 PM

for the 100% accurate detail, one would need to ask the hospital/doctor directly.

what I know is not once my dad's visit to the hospital did not include blood test (that was like 200 rm)... and there is processing fee of like 10 rm. I guess the 10rm could be for the nurse... no idea.

for example, the last visit (last month), the doctor consultation fee was 100, blood test was 185rm and processing fee was 10rm.

Depends.
Gov doctor (specialist) can only earn 12K per month.

the better the treatment the poorer they are

i know one of my friend who is orthopedic surgeon at gov hospital. Banyak dapat "thank you" gift from supplier of titanium implant.

To a poor man, 12k is a dream

superbike your doctor making big buck from you?

keep going back for more huh?

Why become dokter if u wanna earn big bucks. That's the slow way. There are better options.

Do you have elaun insentif perkhidmatan kritikal, elaun klinikal, elaun shif, and others?

From slip gaji only this
Gaji pokok, imbuhan tetap perumahan, imbuhan tetap keraian,
Sara hidup and kritikital. That’s all. As im working in Klinik kesihatan without shift

definitely

my doctor is from china. he keeps pushing opioids like fentanyl and fake oxycodone press from china to amdks and killing them because of how evil they are.

me? i get it for free because my doctor is a cock addict always wants to suck my cock and paying me with oxy and xanax in exchange bro.

got contact for your doc? lol

eh no la. i was just joking with that ohmao lol.

Kantoi, got doc suking kok fetish?

i want them xan bars

cock can get anytime

xanny is hard to get by. your only luck is from psychiatrist but even then, you would most likely given kpins or diazepam bro.

Nowadays private sector more attractive than
long road of becoming specialist? Plus it's not their fault that the contract issue came about. That time no permanent post and no training for masters .. takkan they just suck it up in all that uncertainty

While partly true, u could also see it as a means to eliminate weaklings. There's many who come in ady lost motivation either due to contract issue or forced to study medicine.
Theres also those with attitude problem, probably because they expected bmw and mercedes fast. (most parents only show the good private specialist side of things, but not what people went through)

Those that stayed and continue to fight now for HLP (PLK) are those with determination as well as also shitty ones that offered permanent convert since no black and white criteria.

So that leaves the even shittier ones or those who still want mercedes and bmw fast (eh no. Nowadays is Mazda cx30 kan cough raynman cough) so they venture to aesthetics.
That one soon will be flooded. Wont get you far with botox and PRP injecting skins and faces with medico legal and social media making patient more informed

lots of money and they rarely go to sleep or enough rest.

30 year old gomen doctor here.. take home salary plus oncall claim only 6k plus.. GPs outside are saturating, they have to venture to other field like occupational health, aesthetics to survive. only specialist and subspecialist are making money in private sector

GPs to me is mostly PR work. Those with good PR, get tonnes of patients even with higher charges. Those with bad PR skills don't have many most of the time.

Not sure why some choose to be doctors. They don't seem to like other humans, and that's a core part of it, I think. Showing warmth and empathy to sick people is a must.