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ozgamerz
post Oct 12 2007, 03:20 PM

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From what I've observed with the increase in multi-core CPU, the mainly only serve 2 purpose. 1. Heavy Multi-Media/Video Editing 2. Latest in gaming. Hence with the ever new stuff that's coming out, the CPU and GPU will continue to be better and better. There's like no limit to it.
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post Oct 12 2007, 03:36 PM

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Here's an interesting "reason": TG Daily - Ray tracing to kill off the GPU? Intel thinks yes flex.gif
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post Oct 12 2007, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(ben_ang @ Oct 9 2007, 11:29 PM)
ok, its a noob question, so is multicore proc actually will make watever we r doing more faster, or allowing us 2 do multi tasking more smoothly? or even both..?
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yeah... theoritically tat's y they developed it... but then the problem lies in the OS and software... apparently software developers don do well in core management... multi-core system don show obvious improvement to an average user which makes it hard for sellers to promote them... sweat.gif

QUOTE(ozgamerz @ Oct 12 2007, 04:20 PM)
From what I've observed with the increase in multi-core CPU, the mainly only serve 2 purpose. 1. Heavy Multi-Media/Video Editing 2. Latest in gaming. Hence with the ever new stuff that's coming out, the CPU and GPU will continue to be better and better. There's like no limit to it.
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yeah... thanks to the Waaagh between Intel(Tau) vs AMD(Eldar) and ATI(Chaos) vs nVidia(Imperial guards) laugh.gif
they juz wanna show who's the better 1 by producing better technologies(to dominate their respective markets) sweat.gif
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post Oct 13 2007, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(emiya_shin @ Oct 9 2007, 07:08 PM)
Why is that a problem? I'm also single core. Just don't have enough money to change to dual core. A lot changing including my mobo.
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LoL,bro true man,at least 2k for u to change to a core processor..takes time man.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 13 2007, 11:03 AM

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No matter what, microprocessor will keep upgrading, that's one of the way to keep the IT economic industries moving.
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post Oct 14 2007, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(dkcc87 @ Oct 13 2007, 11:14 AM)
LoL,bro true man,at least 2k for u to change to a core processor..takes time man.. tongue.gif
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nope... sub RM1k can get the system unit already... sweat.gif price already drop la... doh.gif

QUOTE(CityLife @ Oct 13 2007, 12:03 PM)
No matter what, microprocessor will keep upgrading, that's one of the way to keep the IT economic industries moving.
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actually among most IT economics... IT accessories are the best and easiest selling 1... not the proc... sweat.gif
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post Oct 14 2007, 06:05 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Oct 9 2007, 12:08 PM)
WE NEED SEX CORES DAMMIT!
The future depends on the outcome of the technology race between intel and AMD tho. Not to mention software devs. What good do having a multicore system when the software cannot take advantage of it?
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yep. there are not much applications optimized for quad core operations except for some server applications. But some latest game titles will have advantage from multi-cores. i've read it somewhere, try tomshardware.com tongue.gif


QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Oct 14 2007, 02:59 AM)
nope... sub RM1k can get the system unit already... sweat.gif  price already drop la... doh.gif
actually among most IT economics... IT accessories are the best and easiest selling 1... not the proc... sweat.gif
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1k can barely buy a system lol. but a very basic system u will get. we are in the world of technologies right? we are subconsciously 'forced' to use latest and greatest IT accessories/gadgets to assist us in real life. wink.gif
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post Oct 14 2007, 06:18 AM

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Well for AMD, i wonder which one they want to concentrate, making better GPUS or better CPU.
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post Oct 14 2007, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Oct 14 2007, 02:59 AM)
nope... sub RM1k can get the system unit already... sweat.gif  price already drop la... doh.gif
actually among most IT economics... IT accessories are the best and easiest selling 1... not the proc... sweat.gif
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Processor+motherboard+ram+casing+monitor 1k can get?i don't think it's possible.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 14 2007, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(BlackThyra87 @ Oct 14 2007, 06:05 AM)
yep. there are not much applications optimized for quad core operations except for some server applications. But some latest game titles will have advantage from multi-cores. i've read it somewhere, try tomshardware.com tongue.gif
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if for games, dual core is still good enough (tomshardware compared dual and quad core procs in gaming and etc)
Quad core shines in more video encoding and audio encoding and the others.
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post Oct 16 2007, 06:23 PM

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Quad core or more multi-cores are also for multi-user DB/servers and virtual machine, like VMware or multi access like Citrix. It'll perform better.

However, it won't perform much better than a single core, if you are using it as file server.

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QUOTE(BlackThyra87 @ Oct 14 2007, 07:05 AM)
yep. there are not much applications optimized for quad core operations except for some server applications. But some latest game titles will have advantage from multi-cores. i've read it somewhere, try tomshardware.com tongue.gif
1k can barely buy a system lol. but a very basic system u will get. we are in the world of technologies right? we are subconsciously 'forced' to use latest and greatest IT accessories/gadgets to assist us in real life. wink.gif
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nah... only gamers, graphic designers, and video encoders are forced to do so... not some average office clerk... sweat.gif

QUOTE(dkcc87 @ Oct 14 2007, 02:37 PM)
Processor+motherboard+ram+casing+monitor 1k can get?i don't think it's possible.. biggrin.gif
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without monitor around RM850 can get d lor... give u Samsung 17" LCD monitor total up RM1380 can get d lor...
or Dell Recon 17" CRT monitor for RM1099 total(include CPU, mouse, keyboard and monitor)... good enough to office work... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 14 2007, 02:44 PM)
if for games, dual core is still good enough (tomshardware compared dual and quad core procs in gaming and etc)
Quad core shines in more video encoding and audio encoding and the others.
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not all games ler... doh.gif
most new dx10 games make use of quad core and show some increment in gaming performance... sweat.gif
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post Oct 28 2007, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Oct 16 2007, 06:37 PM)
nah... only gamers, graphic designers, and video encoders are forced to do so... not some average office clerk... sweat.gif
without monitor around RM850 can get d lor... give u Samsung 17" LCD monitor total up RM1380 can get d lor...
or Dell Recon 17" CRT monitor for RM1099 total(include CPU, mouse, keyboard and monitor)... good enough to office work... icon_rolleyes.gif
not all games ler... doh.gif
most new dx10 games make use of quad core and show some increment in gaming performance... sweat.gif
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wahhaha...so i need to upgrade my dx9 to dx10 for me to play dx10 games ah? aiyaaa... doh.gif

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post Oct 28 2007, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(speedflame5973 @ Oct 28 2007, 02:39 AM)
wahhaha...so i need to upgrade my dx9 to dx10 for me to play dx10 games ah? aiyaaa...  doh.gif
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dx10 only available in vista if I not mistake...so for XP, you can't upgrade ur dx9 to dx10 though... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 28 2007, 04:44 AM

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currently not many applications out there can support full quad core outcome rite??
maybe in another half a year??

This post has been edited by v1rtual: Oct 28 2007, 04:45 AM
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post Oct 28 2007, 11:41 AM

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Anyway, Apple desktop (Mac Pro) is running on 8 core if i not mistaken. But the price oso sweat.gif sweat.gif

http://www.applemalaysia.com.my/macpro/
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post Oct 28 2007, 01:24 PM

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i m using a lappie with an amd turion x2 1.8ghz....anyone know any website that offers a review of this proc?also comparison with mobile C2D; which is better?turion x2 or c2d?

ps: what is the best software to benchmark only proc?is pcmark good enough?
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post Oct 28 2007, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Oct 12 2007, 03:36 PM)
I believe raster is still superior to ray tracing. Especially due to the simple fact of ambience, since games are moving away from player centric maps and schemes and more towards the real life ideal of location centricism ray tracing holds less and less promise. Plus it's bloody inefficient and only deals with first order reflections/refractions well, thus i think it'll work well in old gen FPSes where pure fragging was the goal of the day and a player centric map was at hand, but these days, with more open arenas that are designed for immersion, nah.




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post Oct 28 2007, 02:40 PM

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Intel has their Larrabee agenda in promoting RT, so don't take their words as fact.
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post Oct 28 2007, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(emiya_shin @ Oct 9 2007, 07:08 PM)
Why is that a problem? I'm also single core. Just don't have enough money to change to dual core. A lot changing including my mobo.
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Yeah Cool. Single core still rules.........hahaha

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