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post Oct 9 2007, 10:15 AM, updated 19y ago

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How far will processors go? I feel that there is some limit of usage we would experience like when there is a quadcore 2.4 GHz processor which is sufficiently fast for most people then who would ever need to upgrade their PC again (save money rclxms.gif )
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post Oct 9 2007, 10:19 AM

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procs will either go multithreaded(multiple threads per core, multiple cores per processor) or increase in speed (subjected to semicon advancements)
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post Oct 9 2007, 10:49 AM

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do u think todays Qcores & latest gpu can cope VR?
so it's have plenty of room to enhance more.. to fulfill the needs..
don't worry everage users will be forced to keep buying then..
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post Oct 9 2007, 10:53 AM


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in the future i think we will run MP and no more UP,and maybe UP the highest can go to Octa-Core.

for now maybe Quad is enough,for the upcoming application will need at least 8 core,who knows?
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post Oct 9 2007, 12:08 PM

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WE NEED SEX CORES DAMMIT!
The future depends on the outcome of the technology race between intel and AMD tho. Not to mention software devs. What good do having a multicore system when the software cannot take advantage of it?
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post Oct 9 2007, 12:57 PM

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Yeah, agree with linkinstreet, majority of the software dev havent really fully utilize the usage of multiple cores proc yet.
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post Oct 9 2007, 01:05 PM

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I think normal PC users nowadays dunno even have the typing skills to utilize one single core. Ka ka ka.
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post Oct 9 2007, 01:46 PM

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Lemme get this straight. In single threded software, single core proc @ 2.6G will be faster than 2.6G multi-core proc? and y izit?I mean, shouldnt multicore have their "auto-balancing" feature? or w/ single threaded apps/software, only 1 core will be working hard n the others will be in idle mode?
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post Oct 9 2007, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(speedguy10 @ Oct 9 2007, 12:57 PM)
Yeah, agree with linkinstreet, majority of the software dev havent really fully utilize the usage of multiple cores proc yet.
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I think if Intel or AMD can make software think of their multicore cpu as one, it would be a lot easier. Many companies would be reluctant to spent money to get their programs to recognise multicore.
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post Oct 9 2007, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Oct 9 2007, 02:01 PM)
I think if Intel or AMD can make software think of their multicore cpu as one, it would be a lot easier. Many companies would be reluctant to spent money to get their programs to recognise multicore.
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you don't need to. It will just use single core as default.
It's never about recognise multicore, but to UTILISE all of it so that it will become faster.
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post Oct 9 2007, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Oct 9 2007, 02:46 PM)
Lemme get this straight. In single threded software, single core proc @ 2.6G will be faster than 2.6G multi-core proc? and y izit?I mean, shouldnt multicore have their "auto-balancing" feature? or w/ single threaded apps/software, only 1 core will be working hard n the others will be in idle mode?
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Yeah I also heard that a Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz Extreme Edition and other high tech single core processors is quicker than some dual cores ( I'm not pretty sure what is it either Intel Or AMD ). I also don't know why hmm.gif
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post Oct 9 2007, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(emiya_shin @ Oct 9 2007, 06:36 PM)
Yeah I also heard that a Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz Extreme Edition and other high tech single core processors is quicker than some dual cores ( I'm not pretty sure what is it either Intel Or AMD ). I also don't know why hmm.gif
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its benchmark dependant leh...and pentium 4 3.0 EEdition will still lose to a celeron 4xx series oced to 3.0ghz except for maybe cache dependant benchmarks
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post Oct 9 2007, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Oct 9 2007, 07:43 PM)
its benchmark dependant leh...and pentium 4 3.0 EEdition will still lose to a celeron 4xx series oced to 3.0ghz except for maybe cache dependant benchmarks
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What the shocking.gif Is that possible?! Celeron OCed to 3.0GHz? Wow. What's the difference with Pentium D and Pentium Core 2 Duo? Anyway about the topic there still a majority of softwares that did not take advantage of the quad cores speed.
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post Oct 9 2007, 06:56 PM

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damm, i still using single core sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fiqir @ Oct 9 2007, 07:56 PM)
damm, i still using single core  sweat.gif
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Why is that a problem? I'm also single core. Just don't have enough money to change to dual core. A lot changing including my mobo.
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post Oct 9 2007, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(emiya_shin @ Oct 9 2007, 06:51 PM)
What the shocking.gif Is that possible?! Celeron OCed to 3.0GHz? Wow. What's the difference with Pentium D and Pentium Core 2 Duo? Anyway about the topic there still a majority of softwares that did not take advantage of the quad cores speed.
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It's not about the speed, but how the software utilises the extra cores. if the software can use all teh cores possible, even a 1.8Ghz Dual Core can beat a 3.0Ghz single core.
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post Oct 9 2007, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(satanhead2003 @ Oct 9 2007, 02:46 PM)
Lemme get this straight. In single threded software, single core proc @ 2.6G will be faster than 2.6G multi-core proc? and y izit?I mean, shouldnt multicore have their "auto-balancing" feature? or w/ single threaded apps/software, only 1 core will be working hard n the others will be in idle mode?
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not necesarily... the "auto-balancing" feature actually slows down the the process so tat things won teleport here to there... laugh.gif

QUOTE(emiya_shin @ Oct 9 2007, 07:36 PM)
Yeah I also heard that a Intel Pentium 4 3.0GHz Extreme Edition and other high tech single core processors is quicker than some dual cores ( I'm not pretty sure what is it either Intel Or AMD ). I also don't know why hmm.gif
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tat would be AMD X2 and Pentium D's... they are freaking slow... juz imagine... PD 3.0 + 512MB RAM does 44sec on 1M SuperPI tat's almost same wif AMD X2 3800+ at almost same price... while Intel Celeron 420(Conroe-L) 1.6GHz which is basically C2D wif single core and 512Kb cache does 38 sec... and my frenz rig(which i built) did 28sec at 2.8GHz...

QUOTE(emiya_shin @ Oct 9 2007, 07:51 PM)
What the shocking.gif Is that possible?! Celeron OCed to 3.0GHz? Wow. What's the difference with Pentium D and Pentium Core 2 Duo? Anyway about the topic there still a majority of softwares that did not take advantage of the quad cores speed.
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there's no Pentium Core 2 Duo... sweat.gif and Quad Core is juz a race/war subject/battlefield between AMD & Intel... Software Developers juz couldn't keep up... Maybe Norton can since it eats up 3quarter of most average rigs's resources... doh.gif
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post Oct 9 2007, 10:29 PM

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ok, its a noob question, so is multicore proc actually will make watever we r doing more faster, or allowing us 2 do multi tasking more smoothly? or even both..?
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ Oct 9 2007, 10:29 PM)
ok, its a noob question, so is multicore proc actually will make watever we r doing more faster, or allowing us 2 do multi tasking more smoothly? or even both..?
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The ideal scenario is both. Right now, it's leaning more towards multi-tasking gains (the average pc user scenario), whereas the next (harder) step would be to utilize all processor cores for speed gains.

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