anyone thinking they can "EARN" the salvation is wrong at all level.

Just like the thief next to Jesus. Believe and Saved.



On top of that.

i believe :

We are Saved to Serve the God.
We never Saved becaused we Served.

nope.

Anyone trying to tainted human effort into Christ's salvation is always sending God a big loud message :

"You alone, cant get the job done. In the end, we still need to count ourselve."


Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.
Gal 5:2

This is the same context like you mentioned. We need to do something to be considered "Worthy" , Or we will lose our salvation.

This is blasphemy. Because this message is telling God, you alone cant save us. We need to save ourselve.

This is the quickest way to have one lose thier salvation. By being "Reject" Salvation offered by Jesus.
And Start offered themselve another way to be "Saved"

maybe my english is bad


God Saved you not because you served HIM

God Saved you to Serve HIM.

Saved is Done. Serve come later.

And those who served well, prize are waiting.

Those who reject Jesus's Salvation ( by alter/refuse to believe ) are considered Reject Salvation.

The thief on the cross was an exceptional one case because he couldn't do anything anymore and luckily for him


This is a obviously example of Truth Rejection.


God is Perfect.
God is Justice.

If some1 think Jesus's blood only Clean the SIN before you accept the Christ ( but not After .... )
This is another great example of Truth Rejection.

Are you telling the world, the best moment to accept Christ is seconds before you Die?


What Jesus salvation covered were the sin of our life ( whole life )

Except the Sin of Reject Salvation/Truth.

Google charles templeton
1 of the Greatest Preacher in US
He publicly rejected God. ( after 30 years serving God and maybe bring thousand and thousand of people into Christ )



1 can doing God's work at the same time Rejecting Truth.

You are 1 fine example.

You are saying, Our Effort matters in Salvation which is very offensive to God's Original Plan of Salvation.

This post has been edited by ifourtos: Jul 28 2023, 10:34 PM

i remember you
the bad mouthing Roman Catholic

i once "advise" you, dont do that
and you bash me off.

You just so confidence that you are LIVING A HOLY LIFE
and do not allow anybody to "challenge" that "facts"
and keep telling the world, you are a Fine Soldier of Kingdom of God.


Did you tell you to live in SIN?
I remind you to take off your "Holy Skin"

Salvation is Holy, Pure, and Totally Based on God's Grace.
However, God's Rewards are another story.


Any1 saying Salvation is a kind of "reward" and factored in human behaviour. Is rejecting Truth.




If i have not written this to you, i guess, you are not that "guilty"
But once i have expose this to you, directly.

You have no place to hide. Because you have been clearly warned to "recheck" your life, your mind, you heart.

i remind you because your username represent Church.
You should really becareful what you said in this forum.

And you continue to use rude words to bash me off.


Well, i am fine. but this is 2nd time i give you some important reminder.

and you bash me off again.

I will write to you again..
if you clearly headed to the wrong path again. Brother.

God's Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works (Ephesians 2:8-9).

Paul is writing to people who said that faith in Jesus alone does not save a person, but one has to also obey God's law in order to be justified (Gal 3:3, 5:4). To counter the false idea that what we do in keeping the law must be added to faith in what Christ did for us.

Paul often emphasizes in his letters (esp. Galatians, Romans, Colossians) that we are saved by grace through faith alone.

For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. James 2:10




We follow path of Jesus, never because to "earn" salvation. Just because we see Him as Shephard.
Salvation is not a "business" between God and Human, trading the passage to heaven.



1 more thing, if you keep mentioning you already "born again"
well, at least from the conversation we have till now... i dont feel that way.

At least, you are very rude as a person. Maybe not for /k standard.
But DEFINATELY NOT the standard of "born again" person.