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post Feb 7 2023, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(ahhann @ Feb 7 2023, 05:34 PM)
How to counter these myths:
"All assistance lend from Christian all end up they forcing their ajar into your mind and die die must masuk Christian. Better don't ask for their help"
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If masuk Christianity pasal monetary or any other kind of assistance and nothing else, seriously please do not masuk Christianity.
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post Feb 8 2023, 10:49 AM

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Now this had piqued my interest on the Islamic version of our Lord Jesus Christ. Strangely I scanned online for any teachings directly of our Lord in the Quran, but there was nothing I could find !
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post Feb 8 2023, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Pubgamesrhard @ Feb 8 2023, 11:51 AM)
Sadly, their version of Jesus is totally NOT the same person as Jesus in the bible. It's a whole different person. Genealogy wise(check out Miriam in the Quran) = all are different to the Muslim version(Some say that they are distorted/faked). Isa / Easa IS not Jesus in the bible. Period.

The Quran just copy and pasted what the scriptures came before them, Torah / Injil etc and twisted it to their whims. Claiming the Quran is the final and completed version of all scriptures. So many distorted and contradictions in their own Quran ITSELF. While claiming the Bible is corrupted is beyond amazing.

IE : Quran(Supposedly higher authority) says that they have to solat/pray 3 times a day. Whereas in their Hadiths says 5 times. In general, Muslims are supposed to take QURAN in higher regard and FOLLOW the teachings in the Quran, but Mohammad teaches it's 5 times a day. So, who to follow? Allah or Mohammad?

If only Muslims really check out and READ and understand the book THEMSELVES. Which is mostly in LITERAL meaning(WITHOUT ANY SCHOLARS to brainwash etc) They will see the light.

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Watch this YouTube video that just popped up in my screen titled Young Chinese Lady, 24, from Singapore Embraces Islam

I tried putting up the link here but it just seems impossible.
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post Feb 8 2023, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(kevinc @ Feb 8 2023, 03:55 PM)
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post Feb 9 2023, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 9 2023, 08:39 AM)
I can understand your feeling but Christian main concern is after all for the well being of your soul if you can see it.

Their main concern is for you to saved from destruction.

But anyway the call to help other is something God tells us to do but whether you want to accept the invitation to be save or not cannot be forced, it's your right to choose.
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Save from destruction ? I really don't know about that one. Lately I have been following YouTube Nabi Asli channel to understand about the Quran. Oh boy, what I can say is this, based on the teachings alone. As much as the Muslims wants to claim that our Lord Jesus is the same as their prophet Isa, our Almighty God is the same as their Allah, they are not the same at all. Their teachings in the Quran contradicts everything in our Holy Bible.

Yup agree with your last line, it is the same when our Lord walked on earth. Repent for the Kingdom of God is close at hand.

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post Feb 9 2023, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Pubgamesrhard @ Feb 9 2023, 08:19 AM)
Another one that didn't do their homework.
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To me, it's more like us Christians had failed in transmitting our own Christian faith to our younger Christian generation.

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post Feb 9 2023, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Feb 9 2023, 11:12 AM)
But muslim believe Isa is born of virgin Mary.
But why Isa have this kind of special privilege?
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OlgaC4 you are a Muslim right ? Stop equating Isa being born of the Virgin Mary. Your prophet Isa is born of a different Mary from the Christians Virgin Mary. Either you are confused OR you are trying to confuse everyone.
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post Feb 9 2023, 11:24 AM

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I applaud our brother & sisters in Christ of sharing our faith but the real danger doing this online without knowing who is actually behind the end of the other line, our words will be used against our very own brother & sister who are completely weak in their faith. The YouTube videos that I am coming across about Christians converting to other faiths, they are using the same Christian stories to suit and justify their narrative for conversion !

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post Feb 9 2023, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 9 2023, 11:26 AM)
Also...

Being the moderator for this thread, if there are moment ..any hint of fights start, I'll have to delete such posts.

Guys keep everything level headed and calm.

Thank you very muchi.
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And whoever welcome a little child like this in my name welcomes me. BUT if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large milestone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

As scriptures says we must be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

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post Feb 9 2023, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 9 2023, 11:37 AM)
It is quite obvious from the video, she was not discipled and left on her own.
Most churches are very weak in discipleship.
OTOH there are many members in churches for various reasons, which may not include becoming a disciple of Jesus.
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Agree. Something is seriously wrong when my church starts to replace our Holy Bible for any other textbook for Catechism classes. I was asked to teach Catechism in a Catholic school once and I was not allowed to use the Holy Bible ! You cannot imagine how ridiculous that sounds to me.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 9 2023, 11:46 AM)
Sounds bad. But that's the Roman church. Catechisms and traditions are more important than the scriptures.
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It is bad. Really bad. No wonder the little ones are completely at a lost.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 9 2023, 11:50 AM)
So what makes you stay in the Roman church?
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The Word of God.
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Feb 9 2023, 12:35 PM)
There is only half true of word of God in Roman catholic.
If you understand what is mass. You will not even enter the catholic church.
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Half true ? So please inform which part of the other half is a LIE ?

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Feb 9 2023, 12:45 PM)
Find out what the meaning of mass first.
Then your eyes will open
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So what is stoping you from opening my eyes ?

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Feb 9 2023, 12:51 PM)
You need to go back to basic. Which i cannot help you.
The basic is the first commandment.
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Habisla you OlgaC4 becareful lo about the large millstone.
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post Feb 9 2023, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 9 2023, 03:27 PM)
I  believe the 'Jesus' i know is true and real because i take time to study scriptures and ascertain for myself, at the same time believing that God will help me.
i believe that God will not judge me for trying but He will judge me for being lazy and dead spiritually.
So ask me anything specifically about Jesus and i will try to answer.
That, according to scriptures is 'dead faith'. i believe dead faith is what it is dead, and it will not result in life.
Faith requires obedience. Yes, we will go wrong and sin. But we will still try to be discipline according to God's will.
This is the thing. There are not many VERSIONS. But there are many translations. Translations are, translations.
They are not perfect in the minute non fundamental details. However, in the essentials of the faith, they are generally consistent.
So if i had to study a subject, i will try to go back to the original languages that the original texts were written in and study those.
No English or any language will perfectly translate the Hebrew language. There is no possibility for word for word translation.
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I myself love all the various different translations of our Holy Bible.
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post Feb 9 2023, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 9 2023, 06:47 PM)
Some people can understand what are translations.  biggrin.gif
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Here is my problem, even with all the various different translations, I still cannot find the translations in contradiction of each other. Maybe I am too dumb. 🙂

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 9 2023, 06:58 PM)
Yeah. Some like to see the fault in the trees and missing the forest.
i guess they have an agenda. If i dare say that.
All notable versions have the same message of the divine Messiah known as Jesus.
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The modus operandi is to deny the divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Once that is achieved, everything else is a piece of cake. Since the millstone is already around their neck, it makes no difference to them. Might as well grab others while on their way down.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 12 2023, 08:36 AM)
i think the modern Christian is affected by the following:

a) Reading and interpreting scriptures only in English
b) Viewing them through a modern worldview
c) Affected by Luther's Sola Fide. There is no Faith alone in scripture. Only Faith alone line is refuting it: James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Paul's understanding have been consistent with the Jewish ways.
I would not say Judaism perse without understanding the difference Judaism of those days and present. Jesus was practising Judaism of those days.
However, due to Jesus, the rabbinic Judaism of present is different from that of those days. Many blocks were placed by the pharisees to ward off the Messianic claims of Jesus.
Did you know that the early Jews already believed in the 2nd divine person of God?
The early Ararmaic Targums attest to that.
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When you say that modern Christians are affected by reading and interpreting scriptures in English language ONLY, is that a positive (understand) or a negative (don't understand) ?
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post Feb 12 2023, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 12 2023, 01:14 PM)
Negative. Since the scriptures were written in Hebrew and with a Jewish worldview.
Therefore, you get many funny doctrines due to different language understanding and worldviews.
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Ok so let me try to get this straight. A proper understanding of scriptures can only come from an individual who has training or knowledge both in the Hebrew language and also an understanding about Jewish faith & their worldviews ?

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