QUOTE(SharpSword @ Mar 3 2023, 08:44 PM)
It's laughable that someone is trying to proclaim his righteous living and raising up the issue of morality in particular sexual sins. Any way who ask and neither are we interested in whatever sins you were bound in. God is not interested either in putting out dirty linen and certainly not in the business of shaming and embarrassing people because of their sin. But sin is sin and His holiness endures forever. God instead brings mans attention to his bondage to sin as a fact he is an unregenerate sinner in need of forgiveness and cleansing(freedom) from sin.He highlights the problem of sin because He desires to forgive and free the sinner of their sin. His motive is always redemptive and not for personal vendetta. Actually the one that accuses a person to condemn such is no less Satan who is also called the accuser of the brethren. And those who boast of their moral standards are no less the Pharisees. When we boast we are in danger of falling.
So we speak of those things which we know are true in Christ. Not that it serves to validate us but our aim is that the Word of God is validated.
In truth if one has an issue of sin in their personal life they aught not to be teaching the Holy Scriptures. It is presumption to do so. Take a sabbatical, have a rest and deal with the issue of sin first.Once you have overcome then share your experience but not as that which entitles you to say whatever you fancy. In the OT the priest wore on their headgear the words "holiness to the Lord" as a reminder of how they were to carry themselves in their service to God.
As one who was unsaved once I have had my share of the sins that entangles mankind so easily. But after my conversion it was clear to me the issue of sin and how believing the Gospel of Christ affords the believer both pardon and freedom from sin. Otherwise it would be strange that God only pardoned but did not set us free from sin. But as surely as the Israelites were saved by the blood of that first passover lamb and were also surely delivered from their bondage under the hand of Pharaoh, so no less every person that is saved by God. Being freed from sin is not some kind of wishful thinking for the born again believer but is the direct result of the indwelling Spirit of God. The law of the Spirit of life in Christ sets us free from the law of sin and death. Just like you don't have to convince your self mentally that the laws of sin and death exist so too there is no need to psyche one up on the reality of the law of the Spirit. Otherwise its like trying to convince ourselves on the existence of the law of gravity. Law operate independent of one's state of mind. In fact a person's mind changes so often it would be utmost unreliable to base any kind of truth on the function of one's mind and especially so when referring to the issue of one salvation. The scripture is very clear :faith, salvation, forgiveness, deliverance from sin are all realities that have been forged in the realm of one's spirit. Otherwise even a child could not be saved except for the likes of a professor. But we see Christ tells us differently that unless we become as little children we could not enter his kingdom. We are saved by the revelation of God's truth as something that must transact in the spirit of a person and not just in the mind. And that which is in the spirit of a man must necessarily guide his behaviour and this being the reason we argue that faith must go hand in hand with obedience as obeying the one we believe in. We cannot be said to only believe Christ where he speaks on the forgiveness of sins but at the same time refuse when he taught on matters such as sin, hell, repentance, wealth, relationship, prayer, marriage, servant hood, his deity, stewardship, the nature of God and His kingdom, the matters of the last day's etc etc etc. There is no such thing as selective faith as far as the scripture is concerned. To believe in Christ is to have complete trust in him who is no less very God himself. And no man could call another God save he is willing to submit in faith to every thing that concerns Him who is God. Otherwise then God be no longer God. In this case who really is god but the unrepentant sinner himself.
So these brings to a close all I need to say in this thread as I observe some are adamant to propagate false doctrines here. To such let me bring your attention to the warning and judgement that awaits all false teachers as stated in Rev 2:20-23.
your comment resonate with me but too tldr..So we speak of those things which we know are true in Christ. Not that it serves to validate us but our aim is that the Word of God is validated.
In truth if one has an issue of sin in their personal life they aught not to be teaching the Holy Scriptures. It is presumption to do so. Take a sabbatical, have a rest and deal with the issue of sin first.Once you have overcome then share your experience but not as that which entitles you to say whatever you fancy. In the OT the priest wore on their headgear the words "holiness to the Lord" as a reminder of how they were to carry themselves in their service to God.
As one who was unsaved once I have had my share of the sins that entangles mankind so easily. But after my conversion it was clear to me the issue of sin and how believing the Gospel of Christ affords the believer both pardon and freedom from sin. Otherwise it would be strange that God only pardoned but did not set us free from sin. But as surely as the Israelites were saved by the blood of that first passover lamb and were also surely delivered from their bondage under the hand of Pharaoh, so no less every person that is saved by God. Being freed from sin is not some kind of wishful thinking for the born again believer but is the direct result of the indwelling Spirit of God. The law of the Spirit of life in Christ sets us free from the law of sin and death. Just like you don't have to convince your self mentally that the laws of sin and death exist so too there is no need to psyche one up on the reality of the law of the Spirit. Otherwise its like trying to convince ourselves on the existence of the law of gravity. Law operate independent of one's state of mind. In fact a person's mind changes so often it would be utmost unreliable to base any kind of truth on the function of one's mind and especially so when referring to the issue of one salvation. The scripture is very clear :faith, salvation, forgiveness, deliverance from sin are all realities that have been forged in the realm of one's spirit. Otherwise even a child could not be saved except for the likes of a professor. But we see Christ tells us differently that unless we become as little children we could not enter his kingdom. We are saved by the revelation of God's truth as something that must transact in the spirit of a person and not just in the mind. And that which is in the spirit of a man must necessarily guide his behaviour and this being the reason we argue that faith must go hand in hand with obedience as obeying the one we believe in. We cannot be said to only believe Christ where he speaks on the forgiveness of sins but at the same time refuse when he taught on matters such as sin, hell, repentance, wealth, relationship, prayer, marriage, servant hood, his deity, stewardship, the nature of God and His kingdom, the matters of the last day's etc etc etc. There is no such thing as selective faith as far as the scripture is concerned. To believe in Christ is to have complete trust in him who is no less very God himself. And no man could call another God save he is willing to submit in faith to every thing that concerns Him who is God. Otherwise then God be no longer God. In this case who really is god but the unrepentant sinner himself.
So these brings to a close all I need to say in this thread as I observe some are adamant to propagate false doctrines here. To such let me bring your attention to the warning and judgement that awaits all false teachers as stated in Rev 2:20-23.
i like to add something
if u are saved, u will not have any desire to sin
if u hv no desire to do something, will u still do it? same thing applies with sin
like watching porn, if u under grace u lack the desire to watch it anymore
i said that bcoz i was porn addict, but now no more (for years edi still no desire..)
if u under law, u will still desire to watch porn and will fall into sin
so the law become your curse or stumbling block
Mar 4 2023, 10:12 AM

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