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post Jul 29 2023, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 29 2023, 08:36 AM)
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Action is the culmination of true and living faith.
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Without action whatsoever, can one verify that that person is from God ? Are not signs, wonders and miracles really intended to show us confirmation to the Word of God, our Lord Jesus Christ and as such give glory to God ? In the end, everything must lead us back to our Lord Jesus Christ. If it isn't and leads one away from the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ and the focus now is towards someone else or something else, then that is deception of the Evil one.

God says be holy for I AM holy. So anyone that advices otherwise, not need to holy etc etc, one will know immediately they are Satan followers. False teachers.

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post Jul 29 2023, 10:47 AM

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Habisla those preachers who call themselves God. If they were walking with the Jews back in the day, they all would have been stoned. 🤣🤣🤣

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post Jul 30 2023, 06:12 AM

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How does one correct another when the other has no understanding at all about Holy Scriptures ?

I am not only strict online but I am strict towards my own church especially towards those who speaks nonsense. Any nonsense will be corrected on the spot even the clergy. No face given.

Study the scriptures carefully and one can see how things had change over time. I wonder would I feel hurt if back then Jesus Christ told me off straight in the face. My feelings are hurt na. Jesus you bad you, hurt my feelings na.

Don't want to get hurt, go & study Holy Scriptures until one is born again. Otherwise let one yes be yes and no be no, cause whatever is coming out is surely from the evil one.

Wait a minute which of this two are considered born again ?

A. Baptism of water; OR
B. Baptism of fire

TQ bro UW, you are right because Scriptures is correct, I think I would have to be King Solomon, begging for wisdom to teach the unteachable. How did our Lord Jesus Christ dealt with the unteachable ? Hmmm...

Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord but is one bless, especially the one who comes in someone else's name ? If it is not from the Lord, then what the hell one intends to teach ? Life ? Death is more like it. I thank the Lord for the ability to recognize the Good Shepherd's voice, any strange noises will not only put me on guard immediately. Likewise it is with those of you who are born again, you will immediately know who is telling the truth or not.

The worst has to be when someone tries to rewrite Holy Scriptures. Holy Scriptures is already perfect. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. It is the evil one, who tries to re-write Scriptures and when examine closely sure got contradictions against God's teachings, as proven recently.

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post Jul 31 2023, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 27 2023, 12:10 PM)
John 6:40 (NIV) - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
The very first will of God is that you get connected to God by your faith (believes in him) and just by that you are granted Eternal Life.

The believe has to do with believing:

1. Christ died for your sins
2. Christ is your substitution, representing you before God the Father
3. Christ is the one who save you.

All these has to be the first and primary criteria before repentance can even come in.
Repentance = Work of the Holy Spirit which you trust God to do the work in you. And you rest in that trusting God.

It's not you sweating, gritting your teeth trying to obey God. <----Most ppl got it wrong here.

I think you may want to consider all that is said above.
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Wait a minute ... Repentance = Work of the Holy Spirit, which you trust God to do the work in you ?

My limited understanding is something like this, in chronological order but please feel free to amend the order according to your understanding.

1. Unbeliever living in sin
2. Hears the Gospel
3. Repents, means the unbeliever decides for himself to turn away from one's sin and towards God instead
4. Receives the Baptism of Water
5. Baptized believer begins to learn the ways of the Lord
6. Baptized believer will & still struggles with sin, living on earth
7. As the baptized learns to love God and His Holiness more & more, the more the baptized starts to despise sin
8. Once the training is completed, the Baptized will then receive the Baptism of Fire from God according to God's will
9. Good works of the Holy Spirit from hereonwards i.e. signs & wonders are all done is by the Holy Spirit and the Baptized is just a vessel & instrument of the Lord in doing God's will. The baptized is only a servant, for He must increase and i decrease.

Can't wait to hear from you, on the teaching of other Christian denominations. Bro Prophetjul if you are from another denomination or even if you are a Catholic or any other Catholic for that matter and you have a different chronological order, please let me know. Manatau I silap ke.

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post Jul 31 2023, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 31 2023, 11:57 AM)
What is baptism of fire? If you are Catholic, what are your thoughts on the Sacrament of Confirmation?
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Where the Bishop lays his hands on those being confirmed, young adult Form 5 if I am not mistaken, and call upon God to send His Holy Spirit to come descend upon the confirmed. I know that is true and correct and I did receive the Holy Spirit but all I recall is a warm burning sensation.

However I did not understand the importance of the Greatest Commandment and all of God's laws and when I sin against God, the Holy Spirit wasn't going to stick around either. I was young and foolish back then. How many young adults really truly understood what was being taught in Sunday School back then or even today, except for the late, Fr. Moses Lui, whom knew at the age of 5, that he was already selected by God. Perhaps others are smarter but I know I was the dumbest bloke, I didn't even understand the words the church was using, let alone ready for mission, what mission ?

Forget about home instruction nothing doing but strangely I still have my Bible with me from Sunday School. So I grew up listening (not learning) from the Brothers and Sisters in charge of La Salle school and the Catholic Church. Not more warm burning sensation anymore.

Despite all the successes in life but something was seriously missing within and when I was at the lowest moment in my life, I decided to turn towards God and began studying the His Word, demanding our Lord to teach me every single Word that proceeded from His mouth, until He finished engraving His Word into my heart. And now that smouldering fire that was almost snuffed out, has turned into raging fire that no one can ever put out, except God Himself. Praise the Good Lord for allowing one to be born again, because the gift of healing, exorcism was soon much needed to be use.

No worries, I know very well the hidden dangers of exorcism. Would I do it again ? No way. True, it was a warfare between the Holy Spirit and the Evil one but I wouldn't want to see demons again. If it wasn't the army of angels and our brethren who are the Kingdom of Heaven prayers especially the late, Fr. Clement Bala, let's just say I would require help to be exorcised by our Catholic Church by then. So this Apostolic gift is closed. Period.

Anyway back to Sacrament of Confirmation, can the confirmed be ready for real mission by the Holy Spirit, YES, however that has to include proper education directly from the Holy Bible from the ground up and every Catholic family has to be on the same page on Catholic upbringing at home, and while we are grateful to God for Catholic Church to be here but without the Brothers and Sisters in Catholic Schools anymore providing wholesome faith education, it's like a tripod with 2 legs. I was called to teach the Word of God in a Catholic Secondary School and you will never believe this, I was not allowed to bring the Holy Bible to teach ! The resistance was unbelievable and yet God made a way, for the short time I had with our Catholic children. With God everything is possible.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 31 2023, 01:55 PM)
Ephesians 1: 13 - 14 (NIV) - And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
Born again basically means your spirit is regenerated and this can only be done by Holy Spirit.

How do you get the Holy Spirit?

Answer = Believe. You can't do anything to get Holy Spirit but to believe by faith for it, likewise Salvation.
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Are you born again bro ? I presume you are. What proof can you tell that God is with you ?

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 31 2023, 02:39 PM)
God responding to my countless prayers, more than I can remember.
Edit: There are also prayers that God didn't answer.

God speaking to me by Holy Spirit.
God chastising me.
Edit: As many as there are answered prayers, there are also many chastisement and conviction from the Holy Spirit where I needed to change.
It's the relationship, that help me know.
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No gift of healing ? No gift of exorcism ? No other gifts that could be used exclusively for the benefit of your Christian brethren or unbelievers ?

So it's just between you and God only. I understand.

We ourselves must always remain in a relationship with God first, and if it is the will of God in the future, that you should do things like healing or exorcism for anyone in your community, then one will truly experience what is being led by the Holy Spirit. Things will happen that will just blow one's mind because one knows very well it is well beyond one's capability. These are the true workings of the Holy Spirit, these are the food that will last for eternal life, that we must work for.

Praise be to Almighty God forever and ever. Amen.

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Curse on born-again Christians for doing God's will ?

Then why does our Lord say "Do not work for food that perishes, instead work for food that lasts for eternal life. The food which the Son of Man will give you, because God, the Father, has put His mark of approval on Him. What does work here means ?

Wait a minute, ... perceived righteous by others, is this view sort of like a competition or what ? If I see signs and wonders miracles of God being performed by anyone, I praise God immediately for God is with us. What about, be holy, for I AM holy or try to be perfect as our Heavenly Father is perfect ?

It is written that one the gift of the Holy Spirit is gentleness and kindness etc, then why was our Lord angry at times, going around doing God's work ? Didn't He received the baptism of fire from above in a form of a dove at the Jordan River ? Could He had performed all those signs & wonders, if God was not with Him ? When our Lord did all those signs & wonders, weren't the scribes & pharasees envy that He is righteous, while others went away praising God after witnessing the signs and wonders ?

I don't think I will be able to comprehend exactly what the above 2 posts is about, but it's ok. If it is considered a curse doing God's will according to Galatians, so be it, I will continue doing God will. Just as our Father in heaven is busy, I think I ought to be busy too, especially when I am a nobody and have not secured my seat in heaven just yet.

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WHO IS THE GREATEST ?

At that time the disciples came to our Lord Jesus, asking, "Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven ?"

Our Lord Jesus called a child, made him stand in front of them, and says "I assure you that unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven is the one who humble himself and becomes like this child. And whoever welcomes in My Name one such child as this, welcomes Me."

Can anyone explain in simple words what is meant by humble himself and becomes like a child ? Or what is our Lord teaching us today ?

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 4 2023, 12:05 PM)
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Ok I don't quite understand what has been going on lately but it seems like suddenly Desmond2020 has got it and i presume that he is safe. So am I safe or not, at this particular point in time, Prophetjul ?

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 4 2023, 12:42 PM)
Again you ask me read more discussion until my head also pusing.

I think you guys are like the levels of the Roman Catholic Cardinals and the Pope, what they write I also don't understand.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 4 2023, 04:53 PM)
No sure why someone bring up issue of work alone can attain salvation. The point here has always be faith is never alone, in absent of good work.
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Curious, what type of works alone without faith can attain salvation ?

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 4 2023, 05:12 PM)
Absolutely no idea, you better ask the guy who bring that up
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Did someone bring that up ? I haven't been following the thread closely because it's beyond my level most of the time, especially with the word works.

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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 31 2023, 09:17 PM)
Ah, the pious Christians who are holier than thou.

Tithing is only 1 verse in the old testament, but they enlarge it like it's your whole world. That's why I despise people who keeps preaching that as if nothing else to preach.

And it's old testament. New testamanr never said churches should be formed by church members who contribute 10%

And tithing is for God. Not for pastor's expensive cars and flights, pay for 247 AC in church, new chair, new reno, and all pastors do is preach preach preach.

I know pastors daughters who talk shit about Malaysia, who show off everytime they go travel, who is obsessed with branded goods. Very high position in the protestant group in Malaysia. Not 1 pastor but 2 pastors daughter. Another 1 has a NGO but own children won't work or help out there, then want to leave Malaysia cause it's a shit place. Haha, that's pastors for you and where your money goes to.

Church must also be good steward of money. If I don't see my money put to good use, to the poor to the needy. Sorry, that's not the church I want to be part of.

Someone I know worshipped pastor like God even gave so much money cause she thinks she will get blessings. When she had health problem, pastor was too busy that he needed to give sermon online 3 times a day, no time to attend to needs.

If people like to talk, be a trainer, sales person or marketer. Don't be a pastor and pretend you're saving people. A sermon needs only 15 20 mins to convey your point. No need to go round and round about it.

It's in church I find too many hypocrisy and ugly side of human. Even outsiders behave better. That's the sad affair of church today. And beneath my heart, I find the loneliness of not able to fellowship with others, those I can are out of church. Church has disappointed many people.
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Christ taught reincarnation bideo ? 😳 Who that bodo mampus ? 🤣🤣🤣 Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Dah la cuba quote scriptures tetapi baca scriptures pun tak paham. So I asked my Parish Priest this morning about this nonsense. My PP implied if I listen to nonsense, I will be nonsense, but lucky for me, I understand what Christ teaches.

Christians who are not born again yet, must avoid this nonsense. The moment you are born again, our Lord, The Truth, Himself will let you know what is true and what is false.

How stupid must one be to even suggest Christ teaches reincarnation, when reincarnation goes against everything Christ teaches. Bodoh betul.

If reincarnation is true, then the orang putih might as well claim he is the reincarnated Jesus Christ after all he is going to teach about reincarnation no ? Orang putih I got only soalan for you. Prove to me that you are Jesus Christ with your new teaching on reincarnation. Entertain me please. The politicians don't impress me anymore, so I want to see what have you got.

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QUOTE(kcal @ Feb 24 2024, 10:54 PM)
whether christianity was started by the romans or not is immaterial, because the issue that you brought up is the biblical texts pertaining to the supposed reincarnation dogma had been destroyed on the order of the emperor justinian as claimed by you.

so, let's focus on that. so, you've got to prove that the biblical texts outside the roman empire were destroyed as well
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That nut is trying to make something out of nothing, with the hope that others will lose faith in Jesus Christ. Strangely for someone who doesn't know the bible, sure as hell have a lot of nonsense to say. Empty gong makes the loudest noise.
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QUOTE(kcal @ Feb 25 2024, 04:04 PM)
there were christians in certain parts of persia, india and ethiopia. these areas were not under the holy roman empire. before emperor justinian came into power more than one hundred years before, the christian bishops had already agreed to uphold the nicene creed. surprisingly, there's no mention of reincarnation or whatsoever in the creed that many christians need to recite until today.

you may describe the christian heaven as you like. i don't really care. i do not need to attend any church service. i am not allowed to attend also. it appeals to me because sometimes i enjoy listening to gospel songs. the preachers also do not need to preach hate against people from other religions.
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I am sorry, may I know know why that you are not allowed to attend any church service, if you don't mind or you could also PM me.



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QUOTE(kcal @ Feb 25 2024, 06:14 PM)
current official faith status. better don't get myself into trouble and just stay in closets
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 4 2024, 01:12 PM)
nobody know him, even Yeeck from catholic thread said he's a nutcase, just ignore him
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I am interested to know what teachings of Jesus Christ in the Gospel that is outrageous etc etc according to this rabbi. If his claims of outrageous etc etc has nothing to do with Jesus Christ or His teachings at all, but about a few women at the cross or the church or the Roman Empire anything else that is not important, well he deserved to be ignored. Waste of bandwidth aje this rabbi. However it would be interesting to know if this rabbi is ashame and rejects the real Rabbi Jesus Christ himself.

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Cant believe that you guys are still responding to that bodopenyu. Don't give what is holy to dogs. Pakailah Ignore List tu.

Couple of days back, a friend of mine, a Buddhist informed me that his step sister, a Roman Catholic, kena possessed since last year during a visit to the cemetery on All Souls Day.

He is 70 plus and his family is what is known as muhibbah, with members professing all kinds of religions.

Since the possession started last year, they had taken their step sister to all kinds of medium, except a a Catholic priest, and they all lamented that it is too hard to exorcise this spirit in particular.

Immediately I brought this to the attention of the parish priest who is in-charge of that location. Hopefully they managed to bring the step sister to meet with the Catholic priest.

I don't know how other Christians operate, but Catholics must always refer to their Catholic priest first and NOT to any other mediums. The moment other mediums are involved, it becomes extremely difficult, especially when more spirits are now involved !!!

While I was informed a grave sin had been committed etc etc, and I am assuming that the step sister may not even know that it's a sin, because she was following what her adopted family was telling her.

Anyway I have great faith that this will actually turn into our Lord's favour, for once our Lord Jesus Christ exorcises out the demon(s) from this step sister, the whole family will convert to Christianity, just like many other conversions.

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