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post Oct 7 2007, 08:01 PM, updated 19y ago

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AMD IS GEARING UP to launch three series of products for Q4'07. AMD Phenom, RD790 and RV670 are all supposed to arrive in at the same time.

And we managed to get the chance to play around with the demo machine AMD set up in cooperation with Sapphire.

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you are also able to choose how much watt each PCI 2.0 slot gets smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2007, 08:05 PM

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Big deal, another AMD mobo that gets so hyped up that it disappoints in the end. And what advantage you gain by setting the PCI-e's power delivery anyway? And previewing is one thing, when are we gonna get our hand on it. It'd be lucky if it even reaches within the year 2008

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post Oct 7 2007, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 7 2007, 09:05 PM)
Big deal, another AMD mobo that gets so hyped up that it disappoints in the end. And what advantage you gain by setting the PCI-e's power delivery anyway? And previewing is one thing, when are we gonna get our hand on it. It'd be lucky if it even reaches within the year 2008
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haha well as the saying goes.. make us dream..lolz... the day AMD get to beat C2D lolz... newya to be able to set hte power is good for when ure heavily benching GFXs... especially in crossfire... will help stabalise teh card under ln2 and vmods... so itll be preety usefull.. the point of it is inovation, nto to see who wins... but to see new hardware... smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2007, 08:20 PM

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That's the whole point. AMD mobo's always hold tons of promise and cool BIOS stuff but in the end, what happens? RD600 anyone?
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 7 2007, 09:20 PM)
That's the whole point. AMD mobo's always hold tons of promise and cool BIOS stuff but in the end, what happens? RD600 anyone?
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haha seconded smile.gif well it did ok... but just did not live up to the hype... neway why dont u join us at our forums smile.gif could use a experiened hand smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2007, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Oct 7 2007, 08:24 PM)
haha seconded smile.gif well it did ok... but just did not live up to the hype... neway why dont u join us at our forums smile.gif could use a experiened hand smile.gif
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That's the key word, HYPE. This is why for AMD platforms, no matter how toasty the chipset is, I'd rather recommend using NVIDIA's


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3 way crossfire...? rclxub.gif WTF... shocking.gif
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post Oct 8 2007, 12:51 PM

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well i c there is still empty slot 4 quad crossfire brows.gif laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Oct 8 2007, 12:24 AM)
Well I'm not surprised since physics modeling would be the 3rd GPU's intended function. And AMD isn't the only one if you had a look at Intel's X38 chipset mobo's

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You RECOMMEND nVidia mobos?
*deep breath* Cue the immense laughter. laugh.gif I do remember the SATA disk corruption, Firewall kabooz and lack of Vista support for nF3. (aka nothxbai biggrin.gif)

RD600 was quite good, the DFI ICFX3200 board could push 500+ FSB on C2D, which pars / > the 680i, and with better latency settings. The only thing ATI lacked was better optimization (which resulted in lower scores in benchmarks), but considering it's a port from RD480, extremely impressive. The delay was red tape (Intel vs ATI+AMD), not design problems.

RD780 AFAIK is AMD only, which means on time.

One thing the RD780/790 will do good compared to nF780 is going to be heat. Go see the big fan on the 780i reference board desperately cooling the 680i + BR04 chip. RD790s? They have cooling setups that come tamer than the P35 boards.

Oh, and this is from a chip that handles all the PCIe lanes on 1 chip, not 2. wink.gif
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Does a phenom requires a new socket or chipset..?
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post Oct 8 2007, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Oct 8 2007, 04:43 PM)
You RECOMMEND nVidia mobos?
*deep breath* Cue the immense laughter. laugh.gif I do remember the SATA disk corruption, Firewall kabooz and lack of Vista support for nF3. (aka nothxbai biggrin.gif)

RD600 was quite good, the DFI ICFX3200 board could push 500+ FSB on C2D, which pars / > the 680i, and with better latency settings. The only thing ATI lacked was better optimization (which resulted in lower scores in benchmarks), but considering it's a port from RD480, extremely impressive. The delay was red tape (Intel vs ATI+AMD), not design problems.

RD780 AFAIK is AMD only, which means on time.

One thing the RD780/790 will do good compared to nF780 is going to be heat. Go see the big fan on the 780i reference board desperately cooling the 680i + BR04 chip. RD790s? They have cooling setups that come tamer than the P35 boards.

Oh, and this is from a chip that handles all the PCIe lanes on 1 chip, not 2. wink.gif
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nF3? who's talking about nF3?

SATA Disk corruption? nF4 maybe but that was on Maxtor but who cares because Maxtor's long gone anyway

Who uses NV's firewall? Not me and I've been thru 3 platforms already so I know.

And says who 680i couldn't surpass 500Mhz? I've even seen some doing 600Mhz on dividers and extreme cooling in XS

What got me pissed about AMD was the fact for one, the mobo no matter how brilliant it was it's fundamentally flawed with lack of proper development, overpriced, over complex. What do you mean Intel vs. AMD+ATI? ATi delayed the mobo for a good year before we saw even anything so that was out of the question since it was a matter of it's AIB's starting production. No, it was a matter of it's tricky memory controllers which were less friendly with RAM modules, as well as those bloody SB issues which took some time to sort even on SB600

I don't deny the heat emissions but at least past the AHCI compliancy issue, NV's are far easier to setup and troubleshoot instead of ATi's. Ask empire23 since he had both mobo's. Owh and one more thing, I recall that many users of ICFX3200 noting quite warm NB and SB temps.

And judging by the amount of people who buy NV chipset based mobo's compared to AMD based mobo's even now, I'd say it's not even a laughing matter. And if AMD/ATi's habit is to be of any gauge, I'd say delayed would be the catch phrase again

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Look at where the 7XX series is targeted at. AMD chips, not Intel.

Does nVidia have something new up its sleeve? All I see is AM2+ MCP, not enthusiast chips. Considering they've given even 780i the cold shoulder, I am well, not surprised.

ATi has been on time with AMD mobo chips, 480X, 580X, 690G I can't say but the former 2 are quite right, and very cool (in temps) indeed. ATi might have had a hard time implementing Intel's FSB right, but what I see on 939/AM2 is quite a good sign.

nV chipsets are bought more for SLi, if anything. Take that out of the equation, and who wants a 650i/680i when you have a P35/X38?

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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Oct 8 2007, 10:41 PM)
Look at where the 7XX series is targeted at. AMD chips, not Intel.

Does nVidia have something new up its sleeve? All I see is AM2+ MCP, not enthusiast chips. Considering they've given even 780i the cold shoulder, I am well, not surprised.

ATi has been on time with AMD mobo chips, 480X, 580X, 690G I can't say but the former 2 are quite right, and very cool (in temps) indeed. ATi might have had a hard time implementing Intel's FSB right, but what I see on 939/AM2 is quite a good sign.

nV chipsets are bought more for SLi, if anything. Take that out of the equation, and who wants a 650i/680i when you have a P35/X38?
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Like I said, it's an AMD thingy, even with their GC division. Delays

And FYI, NV has been going the FUD route. They've been very secretive and on time now that to the point nobody, and I mean nobody knows a darn thing what the green imps are upto. Which is why G90 remains a secrecy eventho it's due very soon

And as for the SLi exclusivity, from what I hear, NV might reverse their policy allowing cross platform multi-PEG setups. After all discrimination of GC is driver based and not hardware based so it's a matter of policy that's all.

Don't take me for some anti-AMD/ATI fanboy, it's just that I say it the way I see it. Was damned hardcore AMD/ATi fan before this until they screwed up with the delay issues and lack of advancements in the K10 architecture (Blame AMD Texas for that, K8 was AMD California's handywork)

And no, I don't use an NV chipset either. Just a plain old Intel P965 mobo
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QUOTE(X.E.D @ Oct 8 2007, 11:41 PM)
... and who wants a 650i/680i when you have a P35/X38?
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tat i can't agree more... tat's absoletely rite... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(almostthere @ Oct 8 2007, 11:50 PM)
Like I said, it's an AMD thingy, even with their GC division. Delays

And FYI, NV has been going the FUD route. They've been very secretive and on time now that to the point nobody, and I mean nobody knows a darn thing what the green imps are upto. Which is why G90 remains a secrecy eventho it's due very soon

And as for the SLi exclusivity, from what I hear, NV might reverse their policy allowing cross platform multi-PEG setups. After all discrimination of GC is driver based and not hardware based so it's a matter of policy that's all.

Don't take me for some anti-AMD/ATI fanboy, it's just that I say it the way I see it. Was damned hardcore AMD/ATi fan before this until they screwed up with the delay issues and lack of advancements in the K10 architecture (Blame AMD Texas for that, K8 was AMD California's handywork)

And no, I don't use an NV chipset either. Just a plain old Intel P965 mobo
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secrecy is mystirious... and it doesn't always mean a good thing... they might be doing something but it doesn't have to be a good thing... so all we(the end users) can do is to grab a few kuih raya... enjoy all we can wif our rigs until we buy a new 1... maybe during chinese new year... laugh.gif no point pointing out the corporates plans and all... juz point out wat the available products can do currently rather than mocking/praising at upcoming products... doh.gif

 

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