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Epci
post Nov 18 2022, 08:12 PM

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Ask them how much they want to give😗😗😗😗. They headhunt you, then they should give quotation about your payment.

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TSLembu Goreng
post Nov 18 2022, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Epci @ Nov 18 2022, 08:12 PM)
Ask them how much they want to give😗😗😗😗. They headhunt you, then they should give quotation about your payment.
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I did, they said make a proposal

So what do I propose?

Medusakia
post Nov 18 2022, 08:57 PM

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20k. Let them nego
TSLembu Goreng
post Nov 18 2022, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Medusakia @ Nov 18 2022, 08:57 PM)
20k. Let them nego
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Double? Wah haha

stormer.lyn
post Nov 18 2022, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Nov 18 2022, 01:18 PM)
Thanks, I dont think you know the meaning of outsource and independent contractor
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Unfortunately you have to see who the poster is before you spend time replying, because some no knowledge will post like they do.

Good luck with your offer!
Epci
post Nov 19 2022, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Nov 18 2022, 08:58 PM)
Double? Wah haha
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I agree with him/her
bcombat
post Nov 19 2022, 01:37 AM

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if one already reach retirement ages, he/ she should be quite hard to find good jobs elsewhere as employer prefer young and energetic with lower paid….limited bargaining power I guess. Unless with specialise skills that hard to find in manpower market.

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post Nov 19 2022, 04:17 AM

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You should never ask for equivalent or lesser than a permanent staff (including of statutory deductions) because of the risk that comes along with it for a contract staff. The recommendation earlier asking you to ask for double seems like a right choice.

Ask for double doesn’t necessarily means you will get it but negotiation should always start high for a candidate because employer will only pull it down in the negotiation phase.

You need to prepare more bullet point to justify yourself on the ask:
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- lack of long term stability
- establish yourself as valuable skill set that they can’t find elsewhere (in this case being a local and have the skill set they are looking for)
- helping the company to save cost by not having to establish a local company

Another way is to agree for a contractual project basis, as in invoice them on per project basis (renewable 1 year project in your case) rather than as a contract staff. This way you can even open your own company and invoice them and incur more tax savings. An enterprise entity can claim cost of business, you can charge your cost of equipment, transportation etc to lower taxes.

You should treat independent contractor as an entity of its own instead of as an employee of the said company. The negotiation is a company to company process, not as an employee to employer.

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post Nov 19 2022, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Epci @ Nov 19 2022, 12:07 AM)
I agree with him/her
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Thanks, but I think asking double a bit too much for my case

QUOTE(bcombat @ Nov 19 2022, 01:37 AM)
if one already reach retirement ages, he/ she should be quite hard to find good jobs elsewhere as employer prefer young and energetic with lower paid….limited bargaining power I guess. Unless with specialise skills that hard to find in manpower market.
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i'm 43, so a little old for the tech industry but I was approached due to my unique experience.

QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ Nov 19 2022, 04:17 AM)
You should never ask for equivalent or lesser than a permanent staff (including of statutory definitions) because of the risk that comes along with it for a contract staff. The recommendation earlier asking you to ask for double seems like a right choice.

Ask for double doesn’t necessarily means you will get it but negotiation should always start high for a candidate because employer will only pull it down in the negotiation phase.

You need to prepare more bullet point to justify yourself on the ask:
ie:
- lack of long term stability
- establish yourself as valuable skill set that they can’t find elsewhere (in this case being a local and have the skill set they are looking for)
- helping the company to save cost by not having to establish a local company

Another way is to agree for a contractual project basis, as in invoice them on per project basis (renewable 1 year project in your case) rather than as a contract staff. This way you can even open your own company and invoice them and incur more tax savings. An enterprise entity can claim cost of business, you can charge your cost of equipment, transportation etc to lower taxes.

You should treat independent contractor as an entity of its own instead of as an employee of the said company. The negotiation is a company to company process, not as an employee to employer.
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I wont be asking double (too much) or the same as my last drawn salary (too little for contract).

Honestly wondering if anyone here has transitioned from permanent role to contract role, and what is the difference/addition that I need to take into account.



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post Nov 19 2022, 10:00 AM

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If 10k and contractor ask for 13k

That 3k is your epf then u self contribute
Medusakia
post Nov 20 2022, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Nov 18 2022, 08:58 PM)
Double? Wah haha
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Why not. Demand and supply
TSLembu Goreng
post Nov 20 2022, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Medusakia @ Nov 20 2022, 01:09 PM)
Why not. Demand and supply
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my last salary was 29k...cannot la double

bcombat
post Nov 20 2022, 01:59 PM

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this thread should move to kopitiam
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post Nov 20 2022, 03:01 PM

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match the same. if reduce pay
then reduce job scope.

be fair enough
Medusakia
post Nov 26 2022, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ Nov 20 2022, 01:16 PM)
my last salary was 29k...cannot la double
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Then commensurate with your expertise skill & exp
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post Nov 26 2022, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Medusakia @ Nov 26 2022, 09:27 PM)
Then commensurate with your expertise skill & exp
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sorry this is not about what salary should i get, but what salary should i ask for since the role is contract and not permanent. I already know what I should if the role is permanent based on skill & exp.


 

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