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post Nov 14 2022, 03:03 PM, updated 4y ago

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Notice this a few time when using PLUS highway.

Why they always do the rolling road block so often?

The rolling road block is usually deployed to help slow down the traffic to facilitate lane closure.

And why TF close highway during day time? Can't they do it during night time when there is less traffic.

Not only this inconvenienced the highway user, who btw paid tolls to use it, now it is proven to cause accident.

Video below. You can see the rolling road block (4 lorries) at 0:18.


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post Nov 14 2022, 03:04 PM

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the highway is not dangerous

malaysian drivers are.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Nov 14 2022, 03:04 PM)
the highway is not dangerous

malaysian drivers are.
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Agree with this as well. Hence the rolling road block will exacerbate the risk.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:07 PM

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Fuh didnt knew that serious i tot only truck skid or something didnt knew crash to opposite lane and dead
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Nov 14 2022, 03:07 PM)
Fuh didnt knew that serious i tot only truck skid or something didnt knew crash to opposite lane and dead
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All because they want to close down highway lane during busy hours.

PLUS should give discount if they want to inconvenienced user during peak hours.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Nov 14 2022, 03:06 PM)
Agree with this as well. Hence the rolling road block will exacerbate the risk.
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Malaysia toll operator really retard i gotta say. Cut grass block one road can easily cost half hour jam. When jam u tot gt big accident ka or what not last last block for cut grass or just to collect cone.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:11 PM

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Sudden heart attack.

Not becos PLUS highway dangerous or not

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post Nov 14 2022, 03:12 PM

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post Nov 14 2022, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Nov 14 2022, 03:10 PM)
Malaysia toll operator really retard i gotta say. Cut grass block one road can easily cost half hour jam. When jam u tot gt big accident ka or what not last last block for cut grass or just to collect cone.
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They should move all the maintenance work or any construction work to midnight after 1am.

Sometimes soo infuriating to face unnecessary jam when highway is closed on Friday night heavy traffic time just to do some work.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Nov 14 2022, 03:11 PM)
Sudden heart attack.

Not becos PLUS highway dangerous or not
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Already reported on news? Lucky no other casualties.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:19 PM

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or you could drive slower instead, advice that many /ktard dont want to agree.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 14 2022, 03:19 PM)
or you could drive slower instead, advice that many /ktard dont want to agree.
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We can't stop idiots being idiots, so PLUS should know better than deploying rolling road block during peak hours.
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night time they have to pay extra you know.
want to jimat on every angle.


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post Nov 14 2022, 03:22 PM

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Its only an issue when you have retards on the wheel with vehicles that are not road worthy, blind and speeding as per typical Marehsian road users.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 14 2022, 03:19 PM)
or you could drive slower instead, advice that many /ktard dont want to agree.
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Which I can never understand why.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:22 PM

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What is wrong with the lorry ?

Speeding ?

Brake failure?

Over loading?

Driver incompetent ?
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Nov 14 2022, 03:04 PM)
the highway is not dangerous

malaysian drivers are.
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+ Malaysians lack of vehicle maintenance
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 14 2022, 03:19 PM)
or you could drive slower instead, advice that many /ktard dont want to agree.
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ya, make it max speed only 60kmh

btw, do you know the rolling car only driving like 30~40km/h, small car can stop in time lah, but not for trailer without any notice
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 14 2022, 03:19 PM)
or you could drive slower instead, advice that many /ktard dont want to agree.
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Drive slower = more time spent on highway = higher chance to get isekai by truck kun
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Nov 14 2022, 03:04 PM)
the highway is not dangerous

malaysian drivers are.
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Malaysians driving attitude is getting worst, so it's not the road design but the drivers are causing mishaps and accidents nod.gif nod.gif
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QUOTE(msacras @ Nov 14 2022, 03:25 PM)
Drive slower = more time spent on highway = higher chance to get isekai by truck kun
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i mean truck kun are the one that need to be slow, not the other.
they are rewarded to clock more trips, so it feel okay for them to drive faster than speed limit or drive when tired.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Nov 14 2022, 03:07 PM)
Fuh didnt knew that serious i tot only truck skid or something didnt knew crash to opposite lane and dead
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The motorcyle on the left lane so lucky to escape

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post Nov 14 2022, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Nov 14 2022, 03:24 PM)
ya, make it max speed only 60kmh

btw, do you know the rolling car only driving like 30~40km/h, small car can stop in time lah, but not for trailer without any notice
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It causes rapid slowdown in traffic especially during peak period, and chances there are some vehicles that cannot stop in time. That's why its dangerous to do so, yet PLUS seems to be doing this very often. I myself caught in such unnecessary slow down too many times. It's disruptive and there is no compensation to highway user when they do so.
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Nov 14 2022, 03:22 PM)
What is wrong with the lorry ?

Speeding ?

Brake failure?

Over loading?

Driver incompetent ?
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not being able to brake in timely manner due to speeding.
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post Nov 14 2022, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Nov 14 2022, 03:32 PM)
It causes rapid slowdown in traffic especially during peak period, and chances there are some vehicles that cannot stop in time. That's why its dangerous to do so, yet PLUS seems to be doing this very often. I myself caught in such unnecessary slow down too many times. It's disruptive and there is no compensation to highway user when they do so.
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agreed, i also caught once, there is not sign at all, have to break hard, especially if there is turn or hill
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QUOTE(cloudwan0 @ Nov 14 2022, 03:57 PM)
agreed, i also caught once, there is not sign at all, have to break hard, especially if there is turn or hill
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I kena one those rolling road blocks, middle lane from 100km/h to a complete stop. Some of those on the right lanes braked until tyre smoke keluar. Wonder, how heavy trunks at 80km/h, can stop on time. confused.gif
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 14 2022, 03:19 PM)
or you could drive slower instead, advice that many /ktard dont want to agree.
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drive slow no accident? bodo lol
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post Nov 14 2022, 04:26 PM

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If you have time, just go to Port Klang & observe how fast these lorries are travelling. The max speed of 70/80kph sticker at the back of lorries are just well..a sticker.
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post Nov 14 2022, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kaya Butter Toast @ Nov 14 2022, 04:23 PM)
drive slow no accident? bodo lol
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so the experts setting up speed limit and make slogan like 'biar lambat asal selamat' are the idiot arr?
its a known knowledge that you have better control at lower speed than high speed when it come to steering maneuver and braking.

are you going to said that the situation going to be more better if the truck involve here drive even faster?
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Nov 14 2022, 04:26 PM)
If you have time, just go to Port Klang & observe how fast these lorries are travelling. The max speed of 70/80kph sticker at the back of lorries are just well..a sticker.
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yes, it is damn scary, chance to involve in accident are higher because it takes a really long distance for the truck to stop completely.
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QUOTE(madman7028 @ Nov 14 2022, 04:12 PM)
I kena one those rolling road blocks, middle lane from 100km/h to a complete stop. Some of those on the right lanes braked until tyre smoke keluar.  Wonder, how heavy trunks at 80km/h, can stop on time. confused.gif
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exactly.. it has becomes so often. i think plus must really answer for this accident.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 14 2022, 04:29 PM)
so the experts setting up speed limit and make slogan like 'biar lambat asal selamat' are the idiot arr?
its a known knowledge that you have better control at lower speed than high speed when it come to steering maneuver and braking.

are you going to said that the situation going to be more better if the truck involve here drive even faster?
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Yes. They are a bunch of morons. Speed is not outright dangerous, dangerous driving is dangerous
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QUOTE(lfw @ Nov 14 2022, 03:28 PM)
Malaysians driving attitude is getting worst, so it's not the road design but the drivers are causing mishaps and accidents  nod.gif  nod.gif
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Yep. I was honked like crazy today for stopping to let a blind person with a cane cross the street. He was moving his cane so I yielded. I only moved after a few seconds because the blind person was not crossing, probably because he heard the crazy honks.
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Nov 14 2022, 03:22 PM)
Which I can never understand why.
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- My rights because I pay road tax/toll
- Illegal to drive fast?
- You are not my boss. Don't tell me how to live my life
- Sarahan vaksin

Feel free to add on to the list.
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Nov 14 2022, 03:06 PM)
Agree with this as well. Hence Malaysian drivving behaviour will exacerbate the risk.
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post Nov 14 2022, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(knumskul @ Nov 14 2022, 05:00 PM)
- My rights because I pay road tax/toll
- Illegal to drive fast?
- You are not my boss. Don't tell me how to live my life

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It is never about rights, legal or not, or bossing ppl.

Just that many ppl need to know just becoz they can speed = they should. Becoz their body reaction unable to match with their vehicle speed when shits go down on the split seconds. Many of them only realized that when it's already too late.

Sorry I am biased against speedster becoz my friend's mother died in car accident becoz of some assholes were racing with each other on the road, lose control and bang his mom's car straight on.
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A very tragic happening indeed sad.gif

Seeing the lorry slice through the guardrails like they were tissue paper...just wow. So much momentum.


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post Nov 14 2022, 10:40 PM

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I m pretty sure the survival rate of the trucker driver can be very high if our semi truck are those long nosed ones, like Peterbilt or Kenworth. Those crackerbox truck if crash if u no die also both leg had to be amputated, due to that flat nose.
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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Nov 14 2022, 10:26 PM)
It is never about rights, legal or not, or bossing ppl.

Just that many ppl need to know just becoz they can speed = they should. Becoz their body reaction unable to match with their vehicle speed when shits go down on the split seconds. Many of them only realized that when it's already too late.

Sorry I am biased against speedster becoz my friend's mother died in car accident becoz of some assholes were racing with each other on the road, lose control and bang his mom's car straight on.
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Yup. I always say those who learn the hard way are the lucky ones. The unlucky ones don't get to learn because they end up dead.

Speeding motobodos way way higher chance to be unlucky ones, yet doesn't stop them speeding like idiots.
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QUOTE(madman7028 @ Nov 14 2022, 04:12 PM)
I kena one those rolling road blocks, middle lane from 100km/h to a complete stop. Some of those on the right lanes braked until tyre smoke keluar.  Wonder, how heavy trunks at 80km/h, can stop on time. confused.gif
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Those rolling road blocks are a nuisance, and now proven to be dangerous. Its no difference than a normal road block.

Not only dangerous, also a damn inconvenience!!
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Nov 14 2022, 04:29 PM)
so the experts setting up speed limit and make slogan like 'biar lambat asal selamat' are the idiot arr?
its a known knowledge that you have better control at lower speed than high speed when it come to steering maneuver and braking.
I've seen one documentary on why there is specific speed limit on every road

Besides better control at reasonable speed, it is also the reaction time Vs distance travel for the driver to react to braking (moving the foot from the accelerator to the brake pedal).

Faster speed, for the same reaction time (accelerator to brake pedal), the car will travel more distance due to the higher speed.

The other point is braking distance in which I do not need to explain.


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QUOTE(Akaashi @ Nov 14 2022, 10:26 PM)


Sorry I am biased against speedster becoz my friend's mother died in car accident becoz of some assholes were racing with each other on the road, lose control and bang his mom's car straight on.
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Same goes to me
Agree with you

My spouse grandma was killed by a speedster who treated the public road like a race track. This is why I hate YSKong type of car reviewers.

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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Nov 14 2022, 04:03 PM)

The rolling road block is usually deployed to help slow down the traffic to facilitate lane closure.


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Thats what they did. And most drivers obedient enough to heed and slow down. Sadly...all it takes is just ONE who doesn't ... and driving a heavy vehicle somemore.

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 15 2022, 12:01 PM)
Same goes to me
Agree with you

My spouse grandma was killed by a speedster who treated the public road like a race track.  This is why I hate YSKong type of car reviewers.
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See his drive/speed up genting... can sometimes be quite dangerous. While he may be an experienced racer, it is still a public road.


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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Nov 14 2022, 03:07 PM)
Fuh didnt knew that serious i tot only truck skid or something didnt knew crash to opposite lane and dead
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Nov 15 2022, 12:03 PM)
Thats what  they did.  And most drivers obedient enough to heed and slow down. Sadly...all it takes is just ONE who doesn't ... and driving a heavy vehicle somemore.
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It's still a highway, where people is expected to drive fast. And rolling road block is actually very slow, and their visibility is not always the greatest. Many time you only notice them when its too late and you need to brake hard to slow down enough to match speed.

Edit: That is for normal drivers, imagine a runaway truck or some idiot drivers.

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 15 2022, 12:59 PM)
I've seen one documentary on why there is specific speed limit on every road

Besides better control at reasonable speed, it is also the reaction time Vs distance travel for the driver to react to braking (moving the foot from the accelerator to the brake pedal).

Faster speed, for the same reaction time (accelerator to brake pedal), the car will travel more distance due to the higher speed.

The other point is braking distance in which I do not need to explain.
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Well, generally rules (not just traffic rules ) are made after weighing the general behavior of typical users .

Only some idiots perasan high IQ tried to pertikai and challenge those rules in the CONTEXT OF THEIR SELFISH NEEDS.

Same like rules saying no food allowed in public transport , citing reasons probably not to dirty/ mess up the place. I'm sure some idiots will claimed got certain food which are dry and wont cause residue and mess , should be allowed.







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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Nov 15 2022, 01:05 PM)
It's still a highway, where people is expected to drive fast. And rolling road block is actually very slow, and their visibility is not always the greatest. Many time you only notice them when its too late and you need to brake hard to slow down enough to match speed.

Edit: That is for normal drivers, imagine a runaway truck or some idiot drivers.
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And its still a road... where drivers are EXPECTED to be drive CAREFULLY (while being fast) and take note of their surroundings.







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Basically its the mindset (brain) behind the steerings, be it truck or cars and even riders.

Highway maintenance methods, scheduling etc is also arguable. The brains behind it too

The true failure is education to begin with.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 15 2022, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Nov 14 2022, 03:10 PM)
Malaysia toll operator really retard i gotta say. Cut grass block one road can easily cost half hour jam. When jam u tot gt big accident ka or what not last last block for cut grass or just to collect cone.
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If truck can jump to the other side, how dangerous for those who work at roadside? smile.gif There are several incidents where those cutting grass got killed or injured. Imagine lorry broke down parked in emergency lane also got other vehicle hit. Drivers either on ketum or phone rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Nov 15 2022, 12:05 PM)
It's still a highway, where people is expected to drive fast. And rolling road block is actually very slow, and their visibility is not always the greatest. Many time you only notice them when its too late and you need to brake hard to slow down enough to match speed.

Edit: That is for normal drivers, imagine a runaway truck or some idiot drivers.
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media always tell 'jaga jarak anda', why alot bakul sampah that advise.
if someone rear-ended someone because car in front suddenly brake, so who will be wrong in the eye of police? got vehicle in front of you, be prepare to slow down.

myself always make sure distancing around 3 car also barely avoided accident once, what more those kaki tailgate.

also because it is highway, you dont expect every lane to be fast, only the rightest lane. highway were designed to carry more traffic, being able to be fast is just a bonus when the road is underutilized, but when it is pretty much jammed, there is no way to be fast (see ldp, federal highway, mrr2)

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Nov 15 2022, 12:08 PM)
Well, generally rules (not just traffic rules ) are made after weighing the general behavior of typical users  .

Only some idiots perasan high IQ  tried to pertikai and challenge those rules  in the CONTEXT OF THEIR SELFISH NEEDS. 

Same like rules saying no food allowed in public transport , citing reasons probably not to dirty/ mess up the place.  I'm sure some idiots will claimed got certain food which are dry and wont cause residue and mess , should be allowed.
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and people tried to make their idea as the norm, see some people here, "if you drive 80kmh,you shouldnt use highway". while the highest minimum speed recorded is what, 45mph?
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 15 2022, 11:59 AM)
I've seen one documentary on why there is specific speed limit on every road

Besides better control at reasonable speed, it is also the reaction time Vs distance travel for the driver to react to braking (moving the foot from the accelerator to the brake pedal).

Faster speed, for the same reaction time (accelerator to brake pedal), the car will travel more distance due to the higher speed.

The other point is braking distance in which I do not need to explain.
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This shit should be taught during driver education. But in Malaysia conveniently left out, probably to encourage accident statistics kot
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Nov 15 2022, 12:10 PM)
Basically its the mindset (brain) behind the steerings, be it truck or cars and even riders.

Highway maintenance methods, scheduling etc is also arguable. The brains behind it too

The true failure is education to begin with.
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Exactly. See other threads ppl kecam roadblock or road works not set up properly. This 1 road block setup properly also gets brickbats.

Proper way = bising
Not proper way = bising
Got maintenance = bising
No maintenance = bising

Apa lagi ktard mau???
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Nov 15 2022, 01:43 PM)
This shit should be taught during driver education. But in Malaysia conveniently left out, probably to encourage accident statistics kot
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Many don't think about the consequences when they drive over the speed limit.
They always think that are good in driving, got experience.... No issues.
But they forgot on the road there are other road users.
Please tell this to YSKong.
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QUOTE(knumskul @ Nov 15 2022, 01:45 PM)
Exactly. See other threads ppl kecam roadblock or road works not set up properly. This 1 road block setup properly also gets brickbats.

Proper way = bising
Not proper way = bising
Got maintenance = bising
No maintenance = bising

Apa lagi ktard mau???
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banned lorry/contena on major highways and won't worry about road maintenance. whistling.gif whistling.gif

lorries contribute to road issue sweat.gif
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Nov 15 2022, 01:49 PM)
Many don't think about the consequences when they drive over the speed limit.
They always think that are good in driving, got experience.... No issues.
But they forgot on the road there are other road users.
Please tell this to YSKong.
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People who actually use their brain to ensure own safety will not follow YSKong. He is only partially to blame.

If people were actually educated to ensure own safety on the roads, many will not try to replicate his reckless actions.
Most Malaysians are extremely selfish on the roads, with or without other idiots encouraging reckless driving behaviour.
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post Nov 15 2022, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Nov 15 2022, 12:10 PM)
And its still a road... where drivers are EXPECTED to be drive CAREFULLY (while being fast)  and take note of their surroundings.
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Say all you want, idiot drivers will always be idiot drivers.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Nov 15 2022, 12:10 PM)
Basically its the mindset (brain) behind the steerings, be it truck or cars and even riders.

Highway maintenance methods, scheduling etc is also arguable. The brains behind it too

The true failure is education to begin with.
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Apart from dangerous, the maintenance work always done in timing that will inconvenienced road users despite them paying tolls.

Should make a rule if PLUS decided to cause traffic jam, they are liable to pay for the delay caused by their incompetence planning.

 

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