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mhyug
post Aug 10 2025, 07:24 PM

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Need some advice on the following pants(i know its best to have those aramid ones but what if those new type textile /mesh ce rated etc etc pants?):

Most of these pants have the armors at the knee/hips

-Klim Switchback Cargo Pant.

-REV'IT! Airwave 4

-Street & Steel Mission Cargo Riding Pants

is it any better or worse than aramid lined pants? Tried to find from their website if it has aramid lining but couldn't spot them.

Just for context, im looking a pants for cruising and maybe a bit of commuting here and there. Im leaning towards cargo type since im on the overweight size and my belly's rounder than a tyre biggrin.gif

Alternatively anyone can suggest anything from komine/taichi also welcomed(asyik tgk review in utbe pon all us/europe brand).

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post Aug 11 2025, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:16 AM)
Those pants will have CE rating. Look up the appropriate CE1 and CE2 for impact protection (usually the armour) and "A-AAA" for abrasion resistance. You probably not need to worry too much about what material it is made of as long as it performs in the CE Abrasion tests.

Safety is always a compromise between your risk aversion, cost, riding style, overall comfort and where you ride. Do note, Aramid backed pants can run hotter as with high quality thick full grain leather, which is still the best for abrasion.
Boots and gloves will be the next most important safety items after a helmet. Get those first and worry about jacket and pants, or you can make do with cheaper items if on budget constraints. 

Gloves, get leather ones, with a hard plastic/carbon fibre palm slider, the larger the better. The palm slider is the most important part of the glove. Pity some manufacturers either undersize them or omit them.

Boots, if you are newer rider get at minimum a higher cut boot that is relatively stiff against lateral crushing, as for newer riders on a big bike stands higher chance of jatuh bodoh. Dropping a 200kg bike on your lower leg is no fun.
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Thanks for the tip. Ive already got the helmet, gloves and shoes. I did select the leather combi with hard material for the gloves and got the high cut boots. Went for the full face helmet since i do have fear when riding but still want to ride and enjoy riding. biggrin.gif

got a few jackets im looking too, but the pants kind of stumped me a bit since im overweight. Dont want to crush my family jewels tho by buying something very tight like a yoga pants but at the same time worried about the safety when riding.
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post Aug 29 2025, 09:43 AM

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Heading to motorworld this Saturday to get pants, shoes and gloves.

Another place i want to visit is bikeworld at old klang road. got some stuff at LSH, unfortunately pants i want not in stock at LSH.

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post Aug 30 2025, 09:31 PM

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Well went to the places today.

Motorworld kind of a bit sendu with their pants not much selection and sizes

Bikerworld was a bit better with the pants and other items, cuma less of a discount.

Dainese was good too but pants section alos many sizes sold out and no stock. But some good promo's there.

I want ask, why is it the Japanese brands like taichi and komine dont have abrasion rated pants? Went to the abve 2 places and all i can find/see is CE rated pads(no hip pads tho..kena beli asing)

Aside from the 3 i mentioned and LSH, anyone have any other places to recommend, thanks. smile.gif

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post Aug 31 2025, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Aug 31 2025, 07:29 AM)
my guess is to get abrasion rated will increase the price

you can check winmaster in cheras, they sell furygan brand
sunny cycle also has equipment store but a bit limited
if china brand just look at serdang motorcycle
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Thanks bro will check it out.
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post Sep 2 2025, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 2 2025, 10:56 AM)
You can try Bike Quest at PJU. They are a bit hard to find, because the shop it at the first floor next to a speed99. They carry Clover riding gear (most of them have CE abrasion rating), Forcefield armour (good stuff that) and Falco boots (especially good selection for female riders).

For Klim, you can try Welly.

You can try NKS@sentul or GoBike@PJS (its sister retail store) for Shima brand.

As an alternative to Serdang, you can also try Vamanz at PJS.
The reason you only commonly find CE abrasion rating on European brands is now, to sell riding gear in most of Europe, they require CE abrasion rating/test to qualify for motorcycle gear. The Japanese lack in this area so far. So if you must have a garment that is CE abrasion rated, you have to look at the European brands, and the rather steep price they come with.
The reason why CE abrasion rating garments are more expensive (on top of the cost of testing and certification) is the testing schedules not only covers the actual abrasion, but also seam strength. So, higher rated garments most will have double or triple stitched reinforced seams at a higher production cost. Your AAA garments will also likely use far more exotic fabrics than your normal A or B rated garments.

Ultimately, safety is a compromize between cost you are willing to pay, skin you are wiling to lose, comfort (AAA garment can be hot and heavy) and what sort of riding you do most of the time. For me as a daily commuter, my speeds usually dont go much over 100 so for me impact protection and daily comfort/cost is more important than abrasion. Broken bones are a lot harder to deal with than roadrash, but thats not saying severe roadrash is not a bitch to deal with. Its a compromise i make for myself and myself only.

and FWIW...if you are buying riding gear, make sure you buy the correct size. Most end up with sizes too big thinking they are more comfortable, but that is mis placed. Armour needs to be tight and in place for it to work as intended and too much fabric flapping in the wind would and could cause all sorts of buffeting, vibration and loss of comfort. I have a jacket that causes so much buffeting on my helmet that I cant go over 170 without getting a headache. Wasnt a problem before as my 400 maxes out at 160, but my 800 will do 230.

Go with leather for the best and deal with heat. They are stiffer and dont flap around like ill fitting fabrics.
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Splendid explanation. My risk appetite is a bit low hence when i get input from you guys the experience rider i would like to follow. As you said cost is a bit steep but from my research we do get some good for value items. Alas, before getting into riding everyone should have target budget saved for the gear aside form the budget for the bike itself.

Thanks for the shop recommendations smile.gif

 

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