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post Oct 31 2022, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(cocomaru @ Oct 30 2022, 10:27 PM)
I'm merely asking because I'm curious about the legality of the issue.

I have a chinese male friend who have a casual friend-for-benefit relationship with a malay girl. Isn't it illegal for chinese people to do it, wouldn't they be sent to

prison if they were ever caught or JAKIM will force them to marry the malay girl or something?
I'm seeing a lot of chinese-malay relationships as well in public, like holding hands and stuff, am I too old because I once thought that was haram/illegal in the past?
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post Oct 31 2022, 08:16 AM

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I used to date a malay girl few years back(i'm cina), we were in our mid 20's that day, she's not the wearing tudung type. How close are we? We held hand while walking in park or shopping mall, she laid her head on my shoulder sometimes when watching movies in cinema, but we never had sex as I respect her as a muslim and she understand it. No we never kiss...

What I've learned from that relationship is that in order for us to get along, we have to put our differences behind or we both have to be mature/open minded to talk about it. The period we were dating, we rarely talk about our culture and religion. In fact we mostly talk about our job, people we've met, games we're playing, movies, music etc.

When we talk about sensitive stuff like religions, we both took this seriously and never talk bad about one and another. She told me that in islam, the husband role are very important as they will guide their family to heaven in after life. And I think because we both knew that we will never ended up getting married, she also don't want me to marry her because of love but also I have to be willingly to accept and became a muslim.

Fast forward few years, she got married and got 2 kids now. We still contact each other but not so frequent, just some birthday or raya or cny wishes. Bini orang tu, jangan la...

Some of you might ask is she pretty? Well she got a healthy and fit body back then, long hair and bright skin, face wise I'll say average like 3 from 5 scores, she definitely looks better without make ups well at least to me, her lips are my favorite and this might sounds crazy, she like my butt, yes she said that...
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post Oct 31 2022, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(cocomaru @ Oct 30 2022, 10:27 PM)
I'm merely asking because I'm curious about the legality of the issue.

I have a chinese male friend who have a casual friend-for-benefit relationship with a malay girl. Isn't it illegal for chinese people to do it, wouldn't they be sent to

prison if they were ever caught or JAKIM will force them to marry the malay girl or something?
I'm seeing a lot of chinese-malay relationships as well in public, like holding hands and stuff, am I too old because I once thought that was haram/illegal in the past?
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No its not illegal. Never has been.

And Islamic religous authorities have no jurisdiction over the Non, unless the Non converts to marry.

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Oct 31 2022, 08:36 AM
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post Oct 31 2022, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(NoComment222 @ Oct 31 2022, 12:02 AM)
Have friends who is Chinese guy and Malay girl. Both renounced their citizenship after getting overseas passport. Happily married with no external forces in place. Strange, they are more free yet they have no divorce issues
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Whcih cuntry gave them passports?

QUOTE(Napalm_man @ Oct 31 2022, 08:16 AM)
I used to date a malay girl few years back(i'm cina), we were in our mid 20's that day, she's not the wearing tudung type. How close are we? We held hand while walking in park or shopping mall, she laid her head on my shoulder sometimes when watching movies in cinema, but we never had sex as I respect her as a muslim and she understand it. No we never kiss...

What I've learned from that relationship is that in order for us to get along, we have to put our differences behind or we both have to be mature/open minded to talk about it. The period we were dating, we rarely talk about our culture and religion. In fact we mostly talk about our job, people we've met, games we're playing, movies, music etc.

When we talk about sensitive stuff like religions, we both took this seriously and never talk bad about one and another. She told me that in islam, the husband role are very important as they will guide their family to heaven in after life. And I think because we both knew that we will never ended up getting married, she also don't want me to marry her because of love but also I have to be willingly to accept and became a muslim.

Fast forward few years, she got married and got 2 kids now. We still contact each other but not so frequent, just some birthday or raya or cny wishes. Bini orang tu, jangan la...

Some of you might ask is she pretty? Well she got a healthy and fit body back then, long hair and bright skin, face wise I'll say average like 3 from 5 scores, she definitely looks better without make ups well at least to me, her lips are my favorite and this might sounds crazy, she like my butt, yes she said that...
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Got sample pic?

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post Oct 31 2022, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(cocomaru @ Oct 30 2022, 10:45 PM)
I'm sorry, please educate me, my brother. Because growing up I assume every Malay is a Muslim by law, they cannot change their religion as long as they live in

Malaysia?
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Oct 30 2022, 11:05 PM)
YOu are right...
all malay in Malaysia are Muslim. NOt by Choice....they born as Muslim...is how the religious works...for them.

I am interested to know abt interracial relationship also..
Malay and Chinese? ya...JAKIM sure get Commission to catch them
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 31 2022, 02:11 AM)
In Malaysia, a Malay has to be Muslim, to be considered Malay.

Refer article 160 of constitution for definition of a Malay
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By law in malaysia...yeah

Thats why so many cabut from here




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post Oct 31 2022, 09:49 AM

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JAKIM has no power over non-Muslims (yet) but the situation might change as Malaysia slides into radicalism and extremism.

As for TS's question, the Muslim girl will probably get hauled up for questioning.
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post Oct 31 2022, 10:06 AM

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Many have answered TS's query correctly, so I'll not belabor the obvious.

But I'll say these few things:

The fruit which is forbidden tastes twice as sweet, which may partly explain why TS has observed many local non-muslim Chinese - muslim Malay couples/FWB.

On a slight tangent, there is no prohibition on foreign muslims to enjoy gaming in Genting's casinos. Only local muslims are barred there.
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post Oct 31 2022, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(tomato people @ Oct 31 2022, 09:46 AM)
By law in malaysia...yeah

Thats why so many cabut from here
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so blatantly wrong but dont want admit directly lul
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post Oct 31 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(cocomaru @ Oct 30 2022, 10:45 PM)
I'm sorry, please educate me, my brother. Because growing up I assume every Malay is a Muslim by law, they cannot change their religion as long as they live in

Malaysia?
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i dont know how u spend ur time

living in Malaysia dont understand Malaysia....


Iban khadazan, oramg asli has free will to choose religious
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post Oct 31 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2022, 08:44 AM)
Got sample pic?
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Just imagine how your average ladies friends looks like
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post Oct 31 2022, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(cocomaru @ Oct 30 2022, 10:27 PM)
I'm merely asking because I'm curious about the legality of the issue.

I have a chinese male friend who have a casual friend-for-benefit relationship with a malay girl. Isn't it illegal for chinese people to do it, wouldn't they be sent to

prison if they were ever caught or JAKIM will force them to marry the malay girl or something?
I'm seeing a lot of chinese-malay relationships as well in public, like holding hands and stuff, am I too old because I once thought that was haram/illegal in the past?
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non muslim will not be punish under syariah law. its for muslim only.
so if, the couple do something beyond, the muslim partner will kena.

we are not an islamic country. we are majority muslim country same as indonesia.
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post Oct 31 2022, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2022, 08:44 AM)
Whcih cuntry gave them passports?
As if Malaysia can touch hahaha, Malaysia even kept quiet on China's Uighur treatment. Malaysia is good for one thing, like someone's boots.

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post Oct 31 2022, 01:11 PM

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how about the reverse? Malay dude with chinese girl, JAKIM catch ah? so same theory applies?
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post Oct 31 2022, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(trojandude @ Oct 30 2022, 10:43 PM)
Not illegal to have sexual relationship with a Muslim, if you're a non-Muslim.

JAKIM has no authority over non. Look at yesterday's RexKL Halloween Shagrilla event where LGBT people were going to. Only Malays were targeted by JAKIM.
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Sorry, I made a mistake on my part, I meant JAIS, not JAKIM. sweat.gif
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post Oct 31 2022, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(cocomaru @ Oct 31 2022, 04:48 PM)
Sorry, I made a mistake on my part, I meant JAIS, not JAKIM.  sweat.gif
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I don't think any Islamic bodies in Malaysia has any jurisdiction on non-Muslims having sex with Muslims.

If JAIS/JAKIM suddenly has power over non-Muslims it will become a big big issue already.

Islamic (Syariah) laws can never be applied on non-Muslims. And there's no federal law or state law that says you can't fuck a Muslim either.

This post has been edited by trojandude: Oct 31 2022, 05:27 PM
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post Oct 31 2022, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Oct 31 2022, 08:44 AM)

Got sample pic?
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Guess Serious /k is still /k laugh.gif
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post Oct 31 2022, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Oct 31 2022, 02:15 AM)
No such thing lah. For the non Muslim person there is nothing legal can be done to you, just maybe embarrassing if caught together and if under 21 parent may be called in.

You can walk away at that point, but of course love and guilt are powerful drivers and that's why you see some people "force" converted
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Under 21? You mean under 18 right?

Why would parents be involved in under 21? (legally speaking)
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post Oct 31 2022, 06:03 PM

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so far no issue. just dont go to budget hotel

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post Oct 31 2022, 07:44 PM

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If jakim caught malay and non malay in a room, only malay will be charged. Non malay wont be detained.

If jakim caught malay and non malay doing it in public area, malay will be charged. Non malay will be charged based on the officer mood. Technically, and legally, can be charged under public indecency, but they will need to call police for that.

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QUOTE(kok_pun @ Oct 31 2022, 01:11 PM)
how about the reverse? Malay dude with chinese girl, JAKIM catch ah? so same theory applies?
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Yes. Same. Gender has no effect on the charge.

 

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