I’ve never seen anything I buy with this “Palm oil free” label before, and I always double check the ingredients labels to make sure stuff I buy doesn’t contain palm oil. Weird. Is it a common label?

Bloody disgusting oil. I will continue to avoid it as best as I can (if eating out can’t be helped, obviously). Call me unpatriotic or whatever. I don’t care.

I still remember when I was a kid and my favorite chocolate suddenly tasted horrible. All this stupid 3rd world oil’s fault.

This post has been edited by dev/numb: Oct 19 2022, 10:12 PM

And the same can be said for all the other source of oil
Plus, the high yield of palm oil per area utilised means less jungle/forested area cleared compared to other sources.
You think they harvest wild sunflowers to get their oil?

Not just palmitate
Any excessive free fatty acid will increase risk of obesity and insulin resistance

they study palmitic acid...

did you know dairy product contain more palmitic acid than palm oil itself....

dairy contain around 50-60% while palm only contain 44%. (from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5682332/ - PA is a major component of palm oil (44% of total fats), but significant amounts of PA can also be found in meat and dairy products (50–60% of total fats).

Yeah implying your favourite chocolate was not made from slavery free plantation

Palm oil is one of the most neutral tasting oil compared to other oil

You are not unpatriotic. You are just uninformed.

This post has been edited by cursetheroad01: Oct 19 2022, 10:13 PM

you seem to be confused with regulation and democracy.

Regulations are needed to protect the well-being of the consumers and the manufacturers to some extent (and not to the extent of blocking the sales of other products)

By having label of palm-oil free, the key question we should ask is whether the product causes health issues to the consumers, and not getting biased against the retailers selling the products with palm-oil free labels.

The reaction by the gomen seems to gear towards emotional standpoint rather than logical and clinical response.

This post has been edited by abc2005: Oct 19 2022, 11:18 PM

I don't deny palm oil is one of the major products we export and use on daily basis.
But it is irrelevant to the choices ppl can/could have by having restrictions on other products simply because of the 'emotional' feeling we have towards palm oil products.

The world market will always have a knack for free market and FTAs. Having unnecessary enforcements will only do our economy a disservice.

The problem with your statement is that the attack on palm oil is based on the need to promote soy bean oil and other vegetables oils produced by the west. If such conduct is a free market practice as you said, then that free market is detrimental to the country economy hence, the need for enforcement.

Allowing such attack on palm oil is doing a disservice to our economy.

Somebody in this thread posted links to articles claiming palmitic acid found in palm oil can promote cancer growth in mice, but then, another forumer mentioned that palmitic acid (despite the word palm in it) it's not exclusively found in palm oil. It can be found in other fatty acids from dairy and animal meat as well, at a higher concentration.

So from there we can see that the attack on palm oil is just economically driven by producers of other vegetable oils. Yet here you are parroting their tactic out of ignorance and biasness.

Remember, free market doesn't and shouldn't involve slander to other competitors.

So "pork free" how?

Discriminate against pork

This post has been edited by B0ss_ku: Oct 19 2022, 11:38 PM

Your body and brain need fats to function

Malaysia oh malaysia....

Kalau tak cekik darah rakyat , itu bukan Malaysia

So when PuAS make dalil about Palm oil free food ??

Spoilers: its not
At least, not anymore than any other oil sourced from other plants

You either go "oil free", or not use labels that is objectively false and baseless

And great, youve googled what is "regulation"

Now go google the definition of democracy and read back your last post

This post has been edited by cursetheroad01: Oct 19 2022, 11:50 PM

First, nowhere in my statements is on the attack of palm-oil in any way.

Does selling other products with palm-oil free label imply promoting other competitors' products and belittling our national product? It doesn't seem so.
It's just more choices that consumers can have, especially for those who really dislike the palm-oil ingredient.

Most of the attacks happened in western markets, by the producers of other vege/flower oils.
If their gomens tried to ban all products containing the palm-oil, then the responses by the ministry is logical.

However, the ban on palm-oil by EU is only on the biofuel, and not on every single product that contains the palm-oil. So far I don't even see a car running on biofuels extracted from palm oil in Msia. So I guess the impact is minimal.
https://www.iscc-system.org/eco-business-wi...an-on-palm-oil/

This post has been edited by abc2005: Oct 20 2022, 12:04 AM

One mistake i made is getting confused with democracy and free will and the freedom to choose.

And that confusion always mislead me to the conclusion that the free will and freedom to choose a gomen is implying the freedom to have choices, unlike the communists.

The US a threat and an enemy yet many still buy Apple iPhone ..

So ..Ade mereka kisah palm oil x laku??

Ohh yay!! The government itself choose BMW, Honda, Toyota, Merz as official cars over local ones

This post has been edited by NoNameSoldier: Oct 20 2022, 12:05 AM

The label palm oil free came from the smear campaign against the usage of palm oil in processed food. So manufacturers who are tapping into this market will use the label to attract customers who are influenced by the smear campaign.

So allowing such labelling into a country that is one of the main producer of palm oil is a bad move.

Malaysia is fighting against the smear campaign to protect our economy.

It's not just biofuel. The smear campaign against palm oil began years ago. Last time got adds in Europe by these people claiming that if you eat KitKat it's like eating orangutan fingers.

Heck, i still remember back when I was in high school already the smear campaign against palm oil was in the news. That was way back in mid 90s.

Apakah ke-tolol-an ini.

Having a smear campaign on palm oil on palm oil-producing country soil. Do you think this tactic works?

If the smear campaign happened in western countries, how did our palm oil industry respond? Continue selling raw palm oil?

Whatever the responses, we have to recognise the fact that palm oil is merely one of the many eatable oils in the world. It's how we respond to the competition and campaigns with much better products.

For example, palm oil as biofuel. Why are we still running on coals or petroleum for power generation when there is alternative like palm oil biofuel? Why are our industry players only thinking about selling raw products instead of value-adding them or turning them to better quality products with economy of scale?

We can't blame others when our own industry players always cry FAMA when the market gets competitive.

This post has been edited by abc2005: Oct 20 2022, 12:25 AM

You mean authoritarianism?

Democracy is not to fight communism
Democracy is to fight capitalism

Related, but pretty irrelevant to current discussion.

Falsely advertising using slanderous labelling is very anti consumers.

If the local manufacturers or industry players think that this is false-advertisement, they should take action thru legal means by having court orders to stop the label from being used because of the certain law it violates.

Having threatened the retailers/sellers is very anti-consumers because the reaction seems to grow out of fear tactic.